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Free Radar HUD v1.1 by Crystal Gadgets
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Radar HUD v1.1: Type /3help for a summary of the commands.
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Chat Range:
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Tegg Bode [12m], Earadriede Callisto [16m], Gellan Glenelg [16m], Erinyse Planer [18m], HALEY Salomon [19m]
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Long Range:
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Nikila Naidoo [66m]
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Jenika's Glasses - Oval Frame w/Clip-Ons: Say '/1 menu' or touch the glasses to open the control panel.
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MineSweeper v2.1j:
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secondlife:///app/teleport/Longfellow/194/55/26
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Arcadia Jonson won L$12 with a score of 123
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ZHAO-Outrider Male Poses (right click and select wear): 2282 bytes free
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Gellan Glenelg:
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hi CG
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HALEY Salomon:
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hiya
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Chat Range:
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Ozzy Wozniak [14m]
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Tegg Bode:
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Hi CG
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Linden:
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Good morning :)
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Ozzy Wozniak:
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hi :)
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Erinyse Planer:
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morning cg
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Erinyse Planer:
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pop quiz which person usually here is my alt?
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HALEY Salomon:
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o0
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Tegg Bode:
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Me ? :)
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Linden:
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Not me :) I know my alt :)
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Erinyse Planer pffts at tegg. I only play females
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Earadriede Callisto:
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lol
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Tegg Bode:
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Some of my alts have alts I don't know about ;)
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Chat Range:
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Bri Gufler [16m]
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HALEY Salomon:
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ok funny
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Erinyse Planer giggles
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Chat Range:
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Trinity Coulter [16m]
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Bri Gufler:
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Hi everyone
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Gellan Glenelg:
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hi bri
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Erinyse Planer:
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give ya a hint. shes usually a pin in your butt cg :P
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Erinyse Planer:
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hey bri
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Chat Range:
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Lamorna Proctor [16m]
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Erinyse Planer:
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*pain
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Gellan Glenelg:
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oh - that could be one of hundreds ;P
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CG Linden is collecting notes
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Linden:
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Hi Lam
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Lamorna Proctor:
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Morning, CG
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Lamorna Proctor:
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morning everyone
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Linden:
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/dev/dull, cute one...
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Lamorna Proctor:
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or afternoon, evening...
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Erinyse Planer:
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morning lam
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Bri Gufler:
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heheh
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Linden:
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I often typo it, and call if /dev/bull :)
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Erinyse Planer:
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give ya another hint cg
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Chat Range:
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Lea Vendetta [16m]
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Erinyse Planer:
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/mew
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Erinyse Planer mews
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Linden:
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(-;
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Erinyse Planer:
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heh if that dont work well I think my name is listed in the app that got my other char into battery st. :P
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Long Range:
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Arcadia Jonson [63m]
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Linden:
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Ok, let's see....
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Linden:
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This week, no rolling restart
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Linden:
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simulators are safe for now
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Tegg Bode:
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Hmm so whats on your plate this week CG?
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Erinyse Planer:
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*pouts* no fix yet for collissions then?
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Linden:
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for me it's a short week
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Gellan Glenelg:
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no meeting on 4th, I assume?
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Linden:
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well, we'll deploy next week's rolling restart on the beta^h^h^h^hpreview grid (aditi)
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Linden:
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nope, I'll be sleepong in that day :)
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Erinyse Planer makes plans to go sit fireworks off outside cg's house *giggles evilly*
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| [8:08]
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Linden:
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One problem is that our lead physics guy is on vacation, so all bugs havingto do with physics will take a while to get fixed
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Linden:
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including Lam's favorite critter
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Lamorna Proctor:
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does that include the fix i need for chess, etc?
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Lamorna Proctor:
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:(
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Linden:
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sorry, but tat guy's been working 12h days ever since I got to LindenLab
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Lamorna Proctor:
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i'm getting increasing flak from customers
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Close Range:
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Arcadia Jonson [36m]
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Erinyse Planer pouts "the rp sim owners and the weopons makers are getting really hurt by the collision issue
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Chat Range:
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Arcadia Jonson [17m]
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Chat Range:
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Nite Zelmanov [16m]
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Erinyse Planer:
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especially byu the idiots that buy weopons then complain they dont work even when shown the jira that explains why they dont work *sighs*
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Linden:
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well, it looks like the following ones will be fixed next week, though:
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Linden:
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SVC-2485: Phantom Objects Collide with Virtual Prims in 1.22.2
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Linden:
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SVC-2484: llVolumeDetect() Fails to detect some avatars
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| [8:11]
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Linden:
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are those the collision bugs you were refering to?
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| [8:11]
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Tegg Bode:
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Hmm that could be trouble by the sounds of things, well, it will get fixed eventually I guess
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Chat Range:
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Sheet Spotter [16m]
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| [8:12]
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HALEY Salomon:
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that jumping bug ,, seems to be back the one ,, we just fly up for no reason .
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Battery Street Irregulars whispers: Thanks for your interest in the Battery Street Irregulars. We'll be contacting you soon!
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| [8:12]
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HALEY Salomon:
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Is tat on the list to be fixed
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Erinyse Planer:
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thats two of the issues yes
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Linden:
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Don't think so... I showed it to Andrew (our physics guy) before he left
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Linden:
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Hi Nite...
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Linden:
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and he kind of went "oh no, not that again" :)
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HALEY Salomon:
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ops
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| [8:14]
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Linden:
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this week, we're continuing to tweak the web services
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| [8:15]
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Linden:
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unfortunately, they are proving to be a new generator of failure points
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Linden:
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this Sunday they were the cause of disruptions
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Linden:
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mainly due to a "spiral of doom" type effect
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Chat Range:
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01 Hifeng [16m]
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Erinyse Planer:
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that doesnt sound good
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| [8:16]
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Linden:
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were a heavy weight request triggers a lot of secondary requests, which backs up other requests and increases the load, which ....
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Linden:
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there are also some design issues that weren't quite thought through ....
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Erinyse Planer:
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so what does this mean?
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Erinyse Planer:
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that theres going to be another redesign?
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| [8:17]
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Tegg Bode:
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Yep that's life I suppose, have to break a few eggs occasionally
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| [8:18]
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Linden:
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it mainly means that the replacement of all database calls with web services will take a little while...
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| [8:19]
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Linden:
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on the other hand, they do provide a nice framework, and this week we are deploying a preliminary code set which will eventually permit escrow-type transactions
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Lamorna Proctor pricks up her ears
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Linden:
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this will eventually allow objects to detect whether transactions succeeded....
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Lamorna Proctor:
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:)
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Linden:
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but the emphasis is on eventuallu
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Erinyse Planer:
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meaning still probably months away ... we understand
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Linden:
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as far as I'm concerned, it is -way- beyond my horizon
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Linden:
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but eh, we got some of our best people working on it
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Lamorna Proctor:
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It's not just L$ transactions we need that for, we also need confirmation that inventory offers have been accepted
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| [8:21]
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Linden:
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yes, the idea is that you collect all parts of a "bargain" and only proceed of all parts are present.
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Linden:
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if
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Lamorna Proctor:
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good
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| [8:22]
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Erinyse Planer:
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cg anyword on if SVC-2511 is going to be addressed at all next week?
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| [8:24]
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Linden:
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Looking
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Chat Range:
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Saijanai Kuhn [16m]
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| [8:25]
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Linden:
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If you think PJIRA is slow, you should see how slow our internal Jira is :)
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| [8:26]
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HALEY Salomon:
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CG ,, that sliding into the room animation is great did u make it ??
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| [8:26]
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Linden:
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well, I guess it will come up eventually :)
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Erinyse Planer:
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nto worried about slowness "*Shrugs** but... worried about the fact ive seen three weopons makers out of business 4 others strugling, and 3 rp sim sets on the verge of clsoing
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| [8:26]
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Linden:
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No, I didn't make it
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| [8:26]
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HALEY Salomon:
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landmark please ??
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| [8:27]
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Linden:
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Outrider animations it was
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| [8:27]
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HALEY Salomon:
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okes
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| [8:28]
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Linden:
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so, it doesn't look like that one's going to be in 1.23 (next week's sim rollout)
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| [8:28]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: White moves 1. e2-e4
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Linden:
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but it's certainly being worked on, but as I said, Andrew's on vacation...
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| [8:28]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Black moves 1. ... e7-e5
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| [8:28]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: White moves 2. Ng1-f3
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| [8:28]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Black moves 2. ... Nb8-c6
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| [8:28]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: White moves 3. Bf1-c4
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| [8:28]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Black moves 3. ... Bf8-c5
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| [8:28]
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Linden:
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viewer....
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| [8:28]
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Erinyse Planer:
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what would it take to make this one jump higher in the priorities?
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| [8:28]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: White moves 4. b2-b4
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| [8:29]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Black moves 4. ... Bc5xb4
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| [8:29]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: White moves 5. c2-c3
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| [8:29]
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Linden:
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there will be an RC12 this week with a very small number of fixes
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| [8:29]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Black moves 5. ... Bb4-a5
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| [8:29]
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Chat Range:
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Freddy Jetcity [16m]
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| [8:29]
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Tegg Bode:
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I noticed the that here and there I still find the "sim is running different server code" message , shouldn't the whole grid be the same now?
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| [8:29]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: White moves 6. d2-d4
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| [8:29]
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Chat Range:
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Trinity Coulter [16m]
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| [8:29]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Black moves 6. ... e5xd4
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| [8:29]
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Linden:
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we're looking at getting the "classic" skin out next week
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| [8:29]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: White moves 7. Nf3xd4
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| [8:29]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Black moves 7. ... Nc6xd4
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| [8:29]
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Linden:
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Tegg, which sim?
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| [8:29]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: White moves 8. Qd1xd4
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| [8:30]
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Linden:
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indeed, they should be running the same
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| [8:30]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Black moves 8. ... Ng8-f6
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| [8:30]
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HALEY Salomon:
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it is weird,,, that so many people care what color blue,, it is ..
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| [8:30]
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Tegg Bode:
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Andrac occassionaly, but perhaps it was during rollouts last week?
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| [8:30]
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Lamorna Proctor personally likes the current RC viewer and doesn't understand the fuss
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| [8:30]
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Erinyse Planer:
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haley its cause the ligheter blue is too low contrast AND a seizure trigger for some epileptics
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| [8:31]
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Linden:
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our rollouts now take about 3 days
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| [8:31]
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Lamorna Proctor:
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oh?
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| [8:31]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: White moves 9. Bc1-g5
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| [8:31]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Castling kingside is possible
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| [8:31]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Black moves 9. ... O-O
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| [8:31]
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Chat Range:
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Anamolie Poitier [16m]
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| [8:31]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Castling kingside is possible
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| [8:31]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: White moves 10. O-O
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| [8:31]
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Tegg Bode:
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Yes I think Dazzle is a tad bright, but I use it anyway and funny enough , I've had bad headaches over the last 2 months too
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| [8:31]
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Chat Range:
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Janine Pizzicato [16m]
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| [8:32]
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Lea Vendetta:
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The colors Dazzle uses can be a trigger for people with certain types of migraines
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| [8:32]
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Linden:
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so, let me see what's in it this week...
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| [8:32]
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Lamorna Proctor stands corrected
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| [8:33]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Black moves 10. ... Qd8-e7
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| [8:33]
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Linden:
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Hi Mr not Sai :)
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| [8:33]
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Tegg Bode:
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Yeah well turned out after a MRI, I have high blood pressure an a sunus infection causing the headaches
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| [8:33]
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Linden:
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and welcome to the FIC :)
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| [8:33]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: White moves 11. e4-e5
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| [8:33]
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Lea Vendetta:
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ugh thats sucks
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| [8:33]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Black moves 11. ... c7-c5
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| [8:34]
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Tegg Bode:
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FIC?
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| [8:34]
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Gellan Glenelg:
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Feted Inner Core
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| [8:34]
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Lamorna Proctor:
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we are all FIC people
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| [8:34]
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Trinity Coulter:
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fancy way of saying teacher's pets, with the teacher in this case being the Lindens
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| [8:34]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: White moves 12. Qd4-e3
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| [8:34]
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Linden:
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nono, but Saijanai is official now :)
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| [8:34]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Black moves 12. ... Nf6-g4
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| [8:34]
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Tegg Bode:
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Ah I'm FOC sitting out here with the FMC's inbetwen
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| [8:35]
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Chat Range:
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Shawna Montgomery [1m]
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| [8:35]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: White moves 13. Qe3-f4
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| [8:35]
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Erinyse Planer:
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hahaha tegg
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| [8:35]
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Linden:
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VWR-7178: 'Upload a snapshot' can no longer take full screen will be fixed...
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| [8:35]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Black moves 13. ... Qe7xe5
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| [8:35]
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Gellan Glenelg:
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:)
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| [8:35]
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HALEY Salomon:
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ooo thanks
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| [8:35]
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Erinyse Planer:
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YAY so they are changing that back?
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| [8:35]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: White moves 14. Qf4xg4
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| [8:35]
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Erinyse Planer does happy dance
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| [8:35]
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Linden:
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and another PPC crash
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| [8:35]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Sorry, it is Black to move
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| [8:36]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Black moves 14. ... d7-d6
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| [8:36]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: The player to move must resign or offer a draw before restarting the game
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| [8:36]
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Linden:
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and we're disabling the watchdog
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| [8:36]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2: Game over. Complete game was as follows:
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| [8:36]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2: White: A N Other - Black: A N Other
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| [8:36]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2: Linden Village - Aric Linden, Longfellow, 2008-07-01
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| [8:36]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2: 1. e2-e4 e7-e5
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| [8:36]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2: 2. Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6
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| [8:36]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2: 3. Bf1-c4 Bf8-c5
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| [8:36]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2: 4. b2-b4 Bc5xb4
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| [8:36]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2: 5. c2-c3 Bb4-a5
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| [8:36]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2: 6. d2-d4 e5xd4
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| [8:36]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2: 7. Nf3xd4 Nc6xd4
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| [8:36]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2: 8. Qd1xd4 Ng8-f6
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| [8:36]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2: 9. Bc1-g5 O-O
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| [8:36]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2: 10. O-O Qd8-e7
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| [8:36]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2: 11. e4-e5 c7-c5
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| [8:36]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2: 12. Qd4-e3 Nf6-g4
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| [8:36]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2: 13. Qe3-f4 Qe7xe5
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| [8:36]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2: 14. Qf4xg4 d7-d6
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| [8:36]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2: 15. 0-1
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| [8:36]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Setting up a new game
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| [8:36]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Ready to play
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| [8:36]
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Erinyse Planer casts a hex of pleausre upon the lindens that changed the snapshot bakc to allow fullscreens again, then casts a hex of urgancy upon andrew to get him to fix 2511 when he gets back *nodnod*
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| [8:36]
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Linden:
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We hope we can get the final rc out next week or the week after
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| [8:37]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Move 1, White to play
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| [8:37]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Please click a piece, and then click one of the squares outlined in blue to move it to that square
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| [8:37]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: White moves 1. e2-e4
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| [8:37]
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Saijanai Kuhn:
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You speak japanaese, CG?
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| [8:37]
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Linden:
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we're a bit under pressure because mono will be out server side
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Saijanai Kuhn:
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eek
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Linden:
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and we need to merge the viewer side changes
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Chat Range:
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Janine Pizzicato [7m]
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Linden:
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skoshi, yukuri hanashitara, wakarimasu
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| [8:38]
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Erinyse Planer:
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will battery street becoem active after rc12 or 13 (whichever) goes live?
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| [8:38]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2: Game over. Complete game was as follows:
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| [8:38]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2: White: A N Other - Black: A N Other
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2: Linden Village - Aric Linden, Longfellow, 2008-07-01
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2: 1. e2-e4 1/2-1/2
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Saijanai Kuhn:
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thot the RC would have the user interface, but that server-side would be a week r two after that
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| [8:38]
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Saijanai Kuhn:
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re: mono
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Nite Zelmanov:
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What sort of timeline on that mono pressure?
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| [8:38]
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Erinyse Planer:
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its other way around saijanai
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Saijanai Kuhn:
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s'koshi yo tambien, dude
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Linden:
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well, we thought so to, but the merge turned out to be a little bit ore complex than anticipated, and we didn't want to pollute 1.20
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| [8:39]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Setting up a new game
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| [8:39]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Ready to play
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| [8:39]
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Chat Range:
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HALEY Salomon [2m]
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| [8:39]
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Chat Range:
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Freddy Jetcity [17m]
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Close Range:
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Freddy Jetcity [22m]
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Linden:
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this being said, w may still do it that way if the mono team can produce a diff that the viewer team can understand and integrate easily :)
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| [8:39]
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Erinyse Planer cant wait for mono. hopes taht it will help on script caused lag
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| [8:39]
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Long Range:
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Freddy Jetcity [45m]
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| [8:39]
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Chat Range:
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Trinity Coulter [16m]
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White Player's Seat: Freddy Jetcity is playing White
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| [8:40]
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Chat Range:
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Freddy Jetcity [10m]
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Saijanai Kuhn:
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Erinyse did you check your laggy scripts in beta?
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| [8:40]
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Chat Range:
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HALEY Salomon [2m]
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| [8:40]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: White moves 1. e2-e4
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| [8:40]
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Chat Range:
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Freddy Jetcity [10m]
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| [8:41]
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Chat Range:
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HALEY Salomon [2m]
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| [8:41]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Black moves 1. ... e7-e5
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| [8:41]
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Chat Range:
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Freddy Jetcity [10m]
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| [8:41]
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Linden:
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so mono is scheduled to come out in4 weeks
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| [8:41]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: White moves 2. Qd1-h5
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| [8:41]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Sorry, it is Black to move
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Lamorna Proctor:
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woohoo
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| [8:41]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Move 2, Black to play
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| [8:41]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Please click a piece, and then click one of the squares outlined in blue to move it to that square
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| [8:41]
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Chat Range:
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HALEY Salomon [2m]
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| [8:41]
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Linden:
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next week 1.23
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| [8:41]
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Chat Range:
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Kahlan Writer [9m]
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| [8:41]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Black moves 2. ... a7-a6
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| [8:41]
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Linden:
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one week pause
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| [8:41]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: White moves 3. Ng1-f3
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Linden:
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then 1.24 = mono
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| [8:42]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Move 3, Black to play
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| [8:42]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Please click a piece, and then click one of the squares outlined in blue to move it to that square
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| [8:42]
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Linden:
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Hi Kahlan :)
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| [8:42]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Black moves 3. ... b7-b6
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| [8:42]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: White moves 4. Nf3-g5
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| [8:42]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Black moves 4. ... a6-a5
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| [8:42]
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Kahlan Writer:
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hi
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| [8:42]
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Nite Zelmanov had better get his ass to the beta grid ;)
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| [8:42]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Sorry, it is White to move
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| [8:42]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Sorry, it is White to move
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| [8:42]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Sorry, it is White to move
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| [8:42]
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Linden:
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after that, I actually have no clue what the next big thing is going to be
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| [8:42]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: White moves 5. Qh5xf7+
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Tegg Bode:
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/
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Erinyse Planer:
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not my scripts lol its scripts in general.
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| [8:42]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: You must move out of check
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| [8:42]
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Tegg Bode:
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So less RC viewers then?
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| [8:43]
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Lamorna Proctor:
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i've tested many of my most complex scripts on the beta grid, and they converted with no trouble at all
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| [8:43]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: You must move out of check
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| [8:43]
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Linden:
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viewer side, work will continue...
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| [8:43]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Sorry, it is Black to move
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| [8:43]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Sorry, it is Black to move
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| [8:43]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Move 5, Black to play
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| [8:43]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Please click a piece, and then click one of the squares outlined in blue to move it to that square
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| [8:43]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Sorry, it is Black to move
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| [8:43]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: You must move out of check
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| [8:43]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Move 5, Black to play
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| [8:43]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Please click a piece, and then click one of the squares outlined in blue to move it to that square
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| [8:43]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: You must move out of check
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| [8:44]
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Erinyse Planer:
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any word yet on when the battery street program gets operational?
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| [8:44]
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Erinyse Planer cant wait to get to break things nightly
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| [8:44]
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Linden:
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BSI - you -may- get email this week
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| [8:45]
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Linden:
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due to the reskinning ("undazzle"), the viewer side's been a tad busy
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| [8:45]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Move 5, Black to play
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| [8:45]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Please click a piece, and then click one of the squares outlined in blue to move it to that square
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| [8:45]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Sorry, it is Black to move
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| [8:45]
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Linden:
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but I actually think that a lot of work is going to be happening viewer side, it is definitely where the attention is focussed now
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| [8:46]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: You must move out of check
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| [8:46]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Move 5, Black to play
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| [8:46]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Please click a piece, and then click one of the squares outlined in blue to move it to that square
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| [8:46]
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Erinyse Planer nods "i bet, but i still think its the right decision
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| [8:46]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Move 5, Black to play
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| [8:46]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Please click a piece, and then click one of the squares outlined in blue to move it to that square
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| [8:46]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Move 5, Black to play
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| [8:46]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Please click a piece, and then click one of the squares outlined in blue to move it to that square
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| [8:46]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Move 5, Black to play
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| [8:46]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Please click a piece, and then click one of the squares outlined in blue to move it to that square
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| [8:46]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Move 5, Black to play
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| [8:46]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Please click a piece, and then click one of the squares outlined in blue to move it to that square
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| [8:46]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Move 5, Black to play
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| [8:46]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Please click a piece, and then click one of the squares outlined in blue to move it to that square
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| [8:46]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Move 5, Black to play
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| [8:46]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Please click a piece, and then click one of the squares outlined in blue to move it to that square
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| [8:46]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Move 5, Black to play
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| [8:46]
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Sculpted Chess Set V3.0.2 whispers: Please click a piece, and then click one of the squares outlined in blue to move it to that square
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| [8:46]
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Linden:
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so when I said I don't know what's up after mono, it may well be that we'll only do bug fixes server side for a while and concentrate more effort on the viewer and related items
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| [8:47]
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Linden:
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"new User experience" is the main thing "M" is looking at ...
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| [8:47]
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Sheet Spotter hopes CG gets to sneak in a summer vacation. :-)
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| [8:48]
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Linden:
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and as we all know, the current new user experience is not exactly, well, frankly, it sucks
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| [8:48]
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Chat Range:
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HALEY Salomon [2m]
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| [8:48]
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Erinyse Planer:
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careful cg that much honesty might get you in trouble lol
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| [8:48]
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Erinyse Planer:
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hahaha
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| [8:48]
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Erinyse Planer hugs
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| [8:48]
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Lamorna Proctor:
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what kind of things are you thinking of doing to improve it?
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| [8:49]
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Linden:
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well, the new avis are one little thing we did
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| [8:49]
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Chat Range:
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Rajan String [6m]
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| [8:49]
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Tegg Bode:
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Hmm we need to get them into the sex sim easier :)
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| [8:49]
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Linden:
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but mainly trying to streamline the registration process
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| [8:49]
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Linden:
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and of course the OIs...
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| [8:49]
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Chat Range:
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HALEY Salomon [2m]
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| [8:50]
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Linden:
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I don't think you'll find anyone who actually likes the current setup
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| [8:50]
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Lamorna Proctor:
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my only concern is that in making the UI easier for noobs you don't make life more difficult for experienced residents
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| [8:50]
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Nite Zelmanov:
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Some of the privately implemented regportal orientations have been really good
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| [8:50]
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Linden:
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yes, and there is a big effort to keep those going...
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| [8:51]
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Linden:
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but interetingly enough, retention rates from those are not significantly different than from ours
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| [8:51]
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Erinyse Planer:
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theres a couple of lindens frankly that all by themselves have hurt user expereince too cg
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| [8:51]
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Linden:
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the asian community gateways do slightly better than us, the european ones actually do worse
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| [8:51]
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Saijanai Kuhn:
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I think the issue s if people log in during peak hours, their experience is going to suck, period due to the brekage of the network
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| [8:52]
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Linden:
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These are really tough problems....
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| [8:52]
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Tegg Bode:
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Yeah, I don't think new people realise how easiy it is to create things here and how many options are available, they are just shown to walk, fly, tp and wear clothes
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| [8:52]
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Saijanai Kuhn:
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max concurrency overwhelms the system and everything goes south
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| [8:53]
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HALEY Salomon:
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I do not think the problem is the hard learning curve I think it's that stuff just doesn't work and the new people think its them
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Saijanai Kuhn:
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I know you guys have started login freezes and that helps, but then people just can't login which is alkso a problem :-(
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Linden:
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yep, that's where the whole dataservice effort is going, to make that more scalable
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HALEY Salomon:
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at least the new people in my class,,
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| [8:54]
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Tegg Bode:
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Yes unfortunately peak times are when the maximum number of real users want to be logged in but can't.
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| [8:54]
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Linden:
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One of the reasons we want agent domains is also so we can use them ourselves to partition the user table....
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Saijanai Kuhn:
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hopefuly, as the new Agent DOmain/ Region domain gets implemented, a lot of issues will naturally correct themselves
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| [8:54]
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Erinyse Planer:
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allot of premium acocunts get ticked off too caus ethey think they should be able to login durring restrictions. theres really not allot of incentive to get premiums atm
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| [8:55]
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Linden:
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we actually can do that, but you should have seen the backlash when we tried it :)
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Saijanai Kuhn:
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CG, so you can distribute which server is handling x number of agents at any moment?
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| [8:55]
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HALEY Salomon:
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the backlash from all the people who rent.. their sims ,, two nonpaying members ???
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| [8:55]
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Linden:
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not at the moment, no... everything still goes to one central database
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| [8:55]
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Tegg Bode:
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Yeah I think perhaps they would be better logging out any accounts that have been online for 24 hours
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Saijanai Kuhn:
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well, I meant with Agent Domain
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| [8:56]
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Linden:
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that would be the idea, yes
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Tegg Bode:
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maybe 12 hours might be better
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HALEY Salomon:
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noooo ,, I am o for 12 hours
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Lamorna Proctor:
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there are a lot of bot accounts that would be affected by that
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HALEY Salomon:
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and I ay concierge,, for the privilege
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Shawna Montgomery:
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me too
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Linden:
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in some ways, there already is a natural evoplution to "agent domains", we actually already have half of an agent domain....
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| [8:56]
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Saijanai Kuhn:
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yeah, I understand the fornt end ideas, but you guys do what you like on the backend, so we have to guess what it will mean
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Linden:
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it's called the inventory db server :)
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| [8:57]
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Tegg Bode:
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The only problem is alot of bot accounts would hammer the grid with auto relogs straight away too
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Sheet Spotter:
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Bot accounts would automatically log on again. :-(
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| [8:57]
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Lamorna Proctor:
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yes
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| [8:57]
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Erinyse Planer:
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there shoudl be a way to dsiable bto acocunts period
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Linden:
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and one of the things we are doing is moving agent specific data from the central db to the inventory dbs
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Erinyse Planer:
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*disable bot accounts
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Saijanai Kuhn:
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Kelly and I were talking about an official bot avatar type to make the server programming easier. Something about the itnerest list
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| [8:58]
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Tegg Bode:
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maybe prevent relogging for 4 hours on accounts online for 24 hours?
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| [8:58]
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Linden:
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well, let me know if you find a way to autodetect bots :)
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| [8:58]
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Lamorna Proctor:
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well, if there were a way in script to do things like invite people into groups, that would reduce the need for bots
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Sheet Spotter:
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There are a few reliable ways to detect a bot. :-)
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| [8:58]
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Linden:
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please tell :)
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Saijanai Kuhn:
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well, no, this would be officially logging in as a bot. No 3D info ever sent out
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| [8:59]
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Linden:
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and besides, some bots do useful stuff
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Saijanai Kuhn:
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so it would reduce the server load. Useful for store bots, NPCs and monsters in RPG sims
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| [8:59]
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Lamorna Proctor:
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yes, but the group thing would be a useful addition to script
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Linden:
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and as Saijanai points out, it would actually be helpful if we had a mode for bots...
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Saijanai Kuhn:
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and wouldn't count against the normal avatar count on a sim
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Tegg Bode:
|
well whether they are a bot or not if they have been online for 24 hours, and haven't moved in last hour or so, there's good chance there's no person at the keyboard, which is a s good as a bot IMO
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| [9:00]
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Linden:
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yeah, but those people don't really create problems either
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| [9:00]
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Gellan Glenelg:
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not moved in the last hour? The bots I see are constantly tping in /out
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| [9:00]
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Linden:
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the ones that do create problems are those that do stuff
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| [9:00]
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Linden:
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especially the ones that try to harvest data
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| [9:01]
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Saijanai Kuhn:
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ironically, the first of those was Dale Glass's map bot
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| [9:01]
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Erinyse Planer:
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like the one that leads peopel to a page that has the fake login to sl, then takes over their acocunt and uses it to spam others?
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| [9:01]
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Tegg Bode:
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Well if they have ben online for daysor weeks they are probably bots too. Trouble is sorting good bots from bad, some have legitimate uses, like group invite bots
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| [9:01]
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Saijanai Kuhn:
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and as long as it was just one, I don't think anyone minded.
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| [9:01]
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Erinyse Planer:
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but you dont need a bto to do group invites
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| [9:02]
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Erinyse Planer:
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theres plenty of scritps that do so without bots
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| [9:02]
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Lamorna Proctor:
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if an object is owned by a group, it should be possible to implement a LL API call to invite to and eject from a group
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| [9:02]
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Lamorna Proctor:
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maybe someone has already PJIRAed that
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| [9:02]
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Lamorna Proctor will check
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| [9:02]
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Erinyse Planer:
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its already possible
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| [9:03]
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Saijanai Kuhn:
|
with the new pyogp scripted bots, there will be a LOT of new uses for bots. Hopefully we'll have it sorted out by the time they become useful to people
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| [9:03]
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Gellan Glenelg:
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http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-273 (Allow Scripts To Send Group Invitations)
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| [9:03]
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Lamorna Proctor:
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How Erinyse? I'm not awar of a way to do it?
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| [9:03]
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Lamorna Proctor:
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*aware
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| [9:03]
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Tegg Bode:
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We really need verification, connecting all accounts to a RL person, then LL will know who is running over 5 accounts and have the otion to do domething
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| [9:04]
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Trinity Coulter:
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why
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| [9:04]
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Lamorna Proctor:
|
Having multiple accounts is not in itself a bad thing
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| [9:04]
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Saijanai Kuhn:
|
the new login model is supposed to tie everything to one account, but that doesn't keep you from having 2 or more accoutns anyway
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| [9:04]
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Lamorna Proctor:
|
There are many legitimate uses for alts
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| [9:05]
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HALEY Salomon:
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but the rule is five
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| [9:05]
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Saijanai Kuhn:
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sure, but eventually, there should be a way to share inventory between alts on the same acount
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| [9:05]
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Erinyse Planer:
|
i have three and two friends have ones that they sometimes log in from where i am. why would i wnat LL to dsiable me for haivng multiple accounts?
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| [9:05]
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Lamorna Proctor:
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As a designer and scripter, I need to test things as an alt, to check permissions, etc.
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| [9:05]
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Shawna Montgomery:
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why did they stop charging the fee for extra accounts?
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| [9:06]
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Gellan Glenelg:
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yes, I have/need alts... but can you give a legitimate reason for having 100 alts?
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| [9:06]
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HALEY Salomon:
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none
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| [9:06]
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Erinyse Planer:
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if i cant have more then five accounts ild probably stop playing ll
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| [9:06]
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Linden:
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I don't know for sure, but my guess is that policing alts and recovering the fee isjust too much trouble
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| [9:06]
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Erinyse Planer:
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*sl
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Saijanai Kuhn:
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lol talk to enus. I think he has 300+
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Lamorna Proctor:
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i'd forget all their names :)
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Sheet Spotter:
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100 alts means you always have someone to talk to! :-)
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Linden:
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well, QA is different
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Lamorna Proctor:
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let alone their passwords
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Tegg Bode:
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No but once you start getting over 5 or 6 it's a bit needless and trouble is at moment anyone eligable for hotmail can creat 4 or 5 accounts for each disposable email. So any kid can create accounts too
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Saijanai Kuhn:
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tesert1 tester2 tester3...
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Erinyse Planer:
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now i WOULD pay like an extra $5 or $10 a year for at least two alts and tie them to my main to get the extra support and land owning ability that coems with premium
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Lamorna Proctor:
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i wouldn't be seen dead with some of my alts ;)
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HALEY Salomon:
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not me ,,,mine are gorgeous
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Tegg Bode:
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Yes that is a bit silly that my legally created alts don't have access to same support as my paying main account
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Saijanai Kuhn:
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all my alts are ruthed usually. They log in stand around, spam groups that never get the messages I try to send...
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Erinyse Planer:
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i dotn thionk its smart or practical to say "you cant have more then five acocutns"
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HALEY Salomon:
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I agree
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Tegg Bode:
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There is LL just have to make sure every person playing is verified in some way.
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Lamorna Proctor:
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it's certainly not policed, and as CG says it's far too difficult to do it on a continuous basis
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Lamorna Proctor:
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IP addresses change, MAC addresses change when someone buys a new computer
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Tegg Bode:
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The gate is open and but horses are still running through it, we shoult close it at some point
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01 Hifeng:
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if verification - not by credit card, because not everyone is willing to show his/her credit card's number to random companies -_-
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Linden:
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well, we are 10 minutes over, and i need to get to work...
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Lamorna Proctor:
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ok, thanks CG
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HALEY Salomon:
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thank you this was fun and informative
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Gellan Glenelg:
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thanks CG
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Saijanai Kuhn:
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thanks CG
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Tegg Bode:
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You are at work :)
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Bri Gufler:
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Thanks for having us CG
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Sheet Spotter:
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Thank you for this hour (and ten minutes) CG! :-)
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Saijanai Kuhn:
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BTW, if anyone is ageek under the skin, the AW Groupies meeting starts in 20 minutes. IM me for a group invite
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Tegg Bode:
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Yep thx :)
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Linden:
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your welcome...
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Lamorna Proctor:
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what's that all about, Saijanai?
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Linden:
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/m remembers to save chatlog
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Earadriede Callisto:
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thanks CG
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