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==Meeting Notes==
==Meeting Notes==
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*<span id="aki.shichiroji"></span>[http://my.secondlife.com/aki.shichiroji Aki (aki.shichiroji)]{{#ifexist: User:Aki| ''[[User:Aki|(User's Wiki Page)]]''|}}
*<span id="ashasekayi.ra"></span>[http://my.secondlife.com/ashasekayi.ra Asha (ashasekayi.ra)]{{#ifexist: User:Asha| ''[[User:Asha|(User's Wiki Page)]]''|}}
*<span id="charlar.linden"></span>[http://my.secondlife.com/charlar.linden Charlar Linden (charlar.linden)]{{#ifexist: User:Charlar Linden| ''[[User:Charlar Linden|(User's Wiki Page)]]''|}}
*<span id="drongle.mcmahon"></span>[http://my.secondlife.com/drongle.mcmahon Drongle McMahon (drongle.mcmahon)]{{#ifexist: User:Drongle McMahon| ''[[User:Drongle McMahon|(User's Wiki Page)]]''|}}
*<span id="eithne.blaylock"></span>[http://my.secondlife.com/eithne.blaylock eithne Blaylock (eithne.blaylock)]{{#ifexist: User:eithne Blaylock| ''[[User:eithne Blaylock|(User's Wiki Page)]]''|}}
*<span id="eleanora.newell"></span>[http://my.secondlife.com/eleanora.newell Eleanora Newell (eleanora.newell)]{{#ifexist: User:Eleanora Newell| ''[[User:Eleanora Newell|(User's Wiki Page)]]''|}}
*<span id="graham.dartmouth"></span>[http://my.secondlife.com/graham.dartmouth Graham Dartmouth (graham.dartmouth)]{{#ifexist: User:Graham Dartmouth| ''[[User:Graham Dartmouth|(User's Wiki Page)]]''|}}
*<span id="imaze.rhiano"></span>[http://my.secondlife.com/imaze.rhiano Imaze Rhiano (imaze.rhiano)]{{#ifexist: User:Imaze Rhiano| ''[[User:Imaze Rhiano|(User's Wiki Page)]]''|}}
*<span id="jusden.jonstone"></span>[http://my.secondlife.com/jusden.jonstone Jusden Jonstone (jusden.jonstone)]{{#ifexist: User:Jusden Jonstone| ''[[User:Jusden Jonstone|(User's Wiki Page)]]''|}}
*<span id="lonetorus.habilis"></span>[http://my.secondlife.com/lonetorus.habilis lonetorus Habilis (lonetorus.habilis)]{{#ifexist: User:lonetorus Habilis| ''[[User:lonetorus Habilis|(User's Wiki Page)]]''|}}
*<span id="maxwell.graf"></span>[http://my.secondlife.com/maxwell.graf Maxwell Graf (maxwell.graf)]{{#ifexist: User:Maxwell Graf| ''[[User:Maxwell Graf|(User's Wiki Page)]]''|}}
*<span id="nalates.urriah"></span>[http://my.secondlife.com/nalates.urriah Nal (nalates.urriah)]{{#ifexist: User:Nal| ''[[User:Nal|(User's Wiki Page)]]''|}}
*<span id="nebadon.izumi"></span>[http://my.secondlife.com/nebadon.izumi Nebadon Izumi (nebadon.izumi)]{{#ifexist: User:Nebadon Izumi| ''[[User:Nebadon Izumi|(User's Wiki Page)]]''|}}
*<span id="nyx.linden"></span>[http://my.secondlife.com/nyx.linden Nyx Linden (nyx.linden)]{{#ifexist: User:Nyx Linden| ''[[User:Nyx Linden|(User's Wiki Page)]]''|}}
*<span id="prep.linden"></span>[http://my.secondlife.com/prep.linden Prep Linden (prep.linden)]{{#ifexist: User:Prep Linden| ''[[User:Prep Linden|(User's Wiki Page)]]''|}}
*<span id="rain.edring"></span>[http://my.secondlife.com/rain.edring Rain Edring (rain.edring)]{{#ifexist: User:Rain Edring| ''[[User:Rain Edring|(User's Wiki Page)]]''|}}
*<span id="runitai.linden"></span>[http://my.secondlife.com/runitai.linden davep (runitai.linden)]{{#ifexist: User:davep| ''[[User:davep|(User's Wiki Page)]]''|}}
*<span id="rusalka.writer"></span>[http://my.secondlife.com/rusalka.writer Rusalka Writer (rusalka.writer)]{{#ifexist: User:Rusalka Writer| ''[[User:Rusalka Writer|(User's Wiki Page)]]''|}}
*<span id="vir.linden"></span>[http://my.secondlife.com/vir.linden Vir Linden (vir.linden)]{{#ifexist: User:Vir Linden| ''[[User:Vir Linden|(User's Wiki Page)]]''|}}
*<span id="wolfpup.lowenhar"></span>[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup (wolfpup.lowenhar)]{{#ifexist: User:Wolfpup| ''[[User:Wolfpup|(User's Wiki Page)]]''|}}
*<span id="yuzuru.jewell"></span>[http://my.secondlife.com/yuzuru.jewell Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell)]{{#ifexist: User:Yuzuru| ''[[User:Yuzuru|(User's Wiki Page)]]''|}}
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==Transcript for Monday October  3, 2011==
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{| cellspacing="2px" border=0 style="color: #434849;"
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_0"></span>[[#msg_0|[12:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="nebadon.izumi">[[#nebadon.izumi|Nebadon Izumi]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|is it me or is the sim next door missing?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_1"></span>[[#msg_1|[12:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="yuzuru.jewell">[[#yuzuru.jewell|Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|I can update my tools by your advice. Thank you.
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_2"></span>[[#msg_2|[12:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="eithne.blaylock">[[#eithne.blaylock|eithne Blaylock]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|hi
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_3"></span>[[#msg_3|[12:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="maxwell.graf">[[#maxwell.graf|Maxwell Graf]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|its down, nebs
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_4"></span>[[#msg_4|[12:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="nalates.urriah">[[#nalates.urriah|Nal (nalates.urriah)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|its missing
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_5"></span>[[#msg_5|[12:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="nebadon.izumi">[[#nebadon.izumi|Nebadon Izumi]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|k
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_6"></span>[[#msg_6|[12:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="maxwell.graf">[[#maxwell.graf|Maxwell Graf]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|been down for days
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_7"></span>[[#msg_7|[12:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="nebadon.izumi">[[#nebadon.izumi|Nebadon Izumi]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|oh heh
|-style="background-color: #EFE3B3;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_8"></span>[[#msg_8|[12:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|ackk
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_9"></span>[[#msg_9|[12:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="ashasekayi.ra">[[#ashasekayi.ra|Asha (ashasekayi.ra)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Asha waves to Eithne, El and Rusalka
|-style="background-color: #EFE3B3;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_10"></span>[[#msg_10|[12:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|one of our submarines, i mean sims, is missing
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_11"></span>[[#msg_11|[12:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="rusalka.writer">[[#rusalka.writer|Rusalka Writer]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Aloha!
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_12"></span>[[#msg_12|[12:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="graham.dartmouth">[[#graham.dartmouth|Graham Dartmouth]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|think ele is still afk
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_13"></span>[[#msg_13|[12:03]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="eleanora.newell">[[#eleanora.newell|Eleanora Newell]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|back, hi all
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_14"></span>[[#msg_14|[12:03]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="yuzuru.jewell">[[#yuzuru.jewell|Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Hello. Vir Linden.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_15"></span>[[#msg_15|[12:03]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="ashasekayi.ra">[[#ashasekayi.ra|Asha (ashasekayi.ra)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|wb
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_16"></span>[[#msg_16|[12:03]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="rusalka.writer">[[#rusalka.writer|Rusalka Writer]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Dang.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_17"></span>[[#msg_17|[12:04]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="vir.linden">[[#vir.linden|Vir Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Hi all.
|-style="background-color: #EFE3B3;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_18"></span>[[#msg_18|[12:04]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|ok let's get started folks
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_19"></span>[[#msg_19|[12:04]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="yuzuru.jewell">[[#yuzuru.jewell|Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Agenda is not cleaed.
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_20"></span>[[#msg_20|[12:04]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="ashasekayi.ra">[[#ashasekayi.ra|Asha (ashasekayi.ra)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|The questions above Daniel's are from last week btw.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_21"></span>[[#msg_21|[12:04]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|i'm sorry - hold on
|-style="background-color: #EFE3B3;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_22"></span>[[#msg_22|[12:05]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="runitai.linden">[[#runitai.linden|davep (runitai.linden)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Content_Creation/Mesh_Import_User_Group
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_23"></span>[[#msg_23|[12:05]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="runitai.linden">[[#runitai.linden|davep (runitai.linden)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|1-5 are from last week
|-style="background-color: #EFE3B3;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_24"></span>[[#msg_24|[12:05]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|i'm sorry - hold on#1 SH-2374 (Rigged Mesh Deformer) has been deferred from Sprint 28 to "Someday/Maybe". Could you give us the overall priority/status of making attached mesh conform to all avatar appearance sliders? If making attachments fit is being addressed some other way, please point us to where [DanielRavenNest Noe]
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_25"></span>[[#msg_25|[12:05]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|(using new numbering)
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_26"></span>[[#msg_26|[12:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="maxwell.graf">[[#maxwell.graf|Maxwell Graf]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|lol
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_27"></span>[[#msg_27|[12:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="jusden.jonstone">[[#jusden.jonstone|Jusden Jonstone]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|lol
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_28"></span>[[#msg_28|[12:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="ashasekayi.ra">[[#ashasekayi.ra|Asha (ashasekayi.ra)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|lmao
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_29"></span>[[#msg_29|[12:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="eleanora.newell">[[#eleanora.newell|Eleanora Newell]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|:)
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_30"></span>[[#msg_30|[12:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="nebadon.izumi">[[#nebadon.izumi|Nebadon Izumi]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|heheh
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_31"></span>[[#msg_31|[12:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="graham.dartmouth">[[#graham.dartmouth|Graham Dartmouth]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|wtg Max
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_32"></span>[[#msg_32|[12:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="jusden.jonstone">[[#jusden.jonstone|Jusden Jonstone]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Jusden Jonstone taps toes
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_33"></span>[[#msg_33|[12:08]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="ashasekayi.ra">[[#ashasekayi.ra|Asha (ashasekayi.ra)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Asha ponders the silent void. o.o
|-style="background-color: #EFE3B3;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_34"></span>[[#msg_34|[12:08]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|we're looking into options on this, more investigation. I'm going to add some notes to SH-2374 to that effect. We know this is something important to people. We'll have an update in the next couple weeks.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_35"></span>[[#msg_35|[12:08]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Additionally we may be reaching out to some of you individually for feedback.
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_36"></span>[[#msg_36|[12:09]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="maxwell.graf">[[#maxwell.graf|Maxwell Graf]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Excellent. That clears things up a bit.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_37"></span>[[#msg_37|[12:09]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="eleanora.newell">[[#eleanora.newell|Eleanora Newell]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|That would be appreciated, thank you.
|-style="background-color: #EFE3B3;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_38"></span>[[#msg_38|[12:09]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|the 'someday/maybe' title for the backlog it got moved to is not bad, like it might imply
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_39"></span>[[#msg_39|[12:09]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="ashasekayi.ra">[[#ashasekayi.ra|Asha (ashasekayi.ra)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Thanks. That sounds more promising than just the "maybe".
|-style="background-color: #EFE3B3;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_40"></span>[[#msg_40|[12:10]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|it just means we don't have it scheduled currently.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_41"></span>[[#msg_41|[12:10]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|We do also have some internal tasks to research, which aren't visible. Sorry for the confusion around that.
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_42"></span>[[#msg_42|[12:10]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="graham.dartmouth">[[#graham.dartmouth|Graham Dartmouth]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|understood, but I dont think its an issue that is going to go away
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_43"></span>[[#msg_43|[12:10]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Next?
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_44"></span>[[#msg_44|[12:10]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="maxwell.graf">[[#maxwell.graf|Maxwell Graf]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|consider also that the almost 800 who voted on it are only a % of those who are actually concerned and affected by this.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_45"></span>[[#msg_45|[12:10]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="vir.linden">[[#vir.linden|Vir Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|It's something we would like to do. Currently there are many non-mesh priorities that also require development resources, so it's always a balancing act.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_46"></span>[[#msg_46|[12:10]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|right Graham, which is one reason we're still looking at it.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_47"></span>[[#msg_47|[12:11]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="nebadon.izumi">[[#nebadon.izumi|Nebadon Izumi]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|ok well I think perhaps in the future, when changing status of that nature
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_48"></span>[[#msg_48|[12:11]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="graham.dartmouth">[[#graham.dartmouth|Graham Dartmouth]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|appreciate your answer :0
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_49"></span>[[#msg_49|[12:11]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="nebadon.izumi">[[#nebadon.izumi|Nebadon Izumi]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|a Linden should make some comments explaining their action
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_50"></span>[[#msg_50|[12:11]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|as I said, i'm goign to be updating that jira later
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_51"></span>[[#msg_51|[12:11]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="nebadon.izumi">[[#nebadon.izumi|Nebadon Izumi]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|you could avoid pitchfork and torch scenarios
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_52"></span>[[#msg_52|[12:11]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="vir.linden">[[#vir.linden|Vir Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|The "fix version" field is intended for internal use by sprint teams.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_53"></span>[[#msg_53|[12:11]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="maxwell.graf">[[#maxwell.graf|Maxwell Graf]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|It would help us a lot. :)
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_54"></span>[[#msg_54|[12:11]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="vir.linden">[[#vir.linden|Vir Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|It really isn't meaningful for anyone else.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_55"></span>[[#msg_55|[12:12]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="maxwell.graf">[[#maxwell.graf|Maxwell Graf]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|it is when there are 800 people watching it for updates.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_56"></span>[[#msg_56|[12:12]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="nalates.urriah">[[#nalates.urriah|Nal (nalates.urriah)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|yeah, save us lugging the tar and featuers to the meetings.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_57"></span>[[#msg_57|[12:12]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="nebadon.izumi">[[#nebadon.izumi|Nebadon Izumi]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|lol
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_58"></span>[[#msg_58|[12:12]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="ashasekayi.ra">[[#ashasekayi.ra|Asha (ashasekayi.ra)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|I'm very glad to hear that you guys are still exploring it. I mean it is the most interesting part of mesh for me and some other creators.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_59"></span>[[#msg_59|[12:12]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="jusden.jonstone">[[#jusden.jonstone|Jusden Jonstone]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|and then its changed without any explaination whatsoever....i think we all have seen JIRA's relegated to similar descriptions and sit idle with no action for years
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_60"></span>[[#msg_60|[12:13]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="graham.dartmouth">[[#graham.dartmouth|Graham Dartmouth]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|from what I understand from many students, it is a deal breaker for adopting mesh
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_61"></span>[[#msg_61|[12:13]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="maxwell.graf">[[#maxwell.graf|Maxwell Graf]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|you crazy guys, you had us going there for a minute, yuk yuk yuk.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_62"></span>[[#msg_62|[12:13]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="rusalka.writer">[[#rusalka.writer|Rusalka Writer]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|I thought Blender was the deal breaker.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_63"></span>[[#msg_63|[12:13]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="ashasekayi.ra">[[#ashasekayi.ra|Asha (ashasekayi.ra)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Asha nods. "I've heard that too Graham."
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_64"></span>[[#msg_64|[12:13]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="eleanora.newell">[[#eleanora.newell|Eleanora Newell]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|for many it is the defining line as to whether they will accept mesh clothing or not
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_65"></span>[[#msg_65|[12:13]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="lonetorus.habilis">[[#lonetorus.habilis|lonetorus Habilis]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|runitai, do you have any comments on parametric deformers and layer systems? (no you dont know when) but perhaps some technical thoughts and or possibilities?
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_66"></span>[[#msg_66|[12:14]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="maxwell.graf">[[#maxwell.graf|Maxwell Graf]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|.......  ....... .......
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_67"></span>[[#msg_67|[12:14]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="ashasekayi.ra">[[#ashasekayi.ra|Asha (ashasekayi.ra)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Asha snorts
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_68"></span>[[#msg_68|[12:14]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="runitai.linden">[[#runitai.linden|davep (runitai.linden)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|I have no comment -- focused on GL compatibility issues, myself
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_69"></span>[[#msg_69|[12:15]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="lonetorus.habilis">[[#lonetorus.habilis|lonetorus Habilis]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|noone from the linden side brave enough to give it some thought? XD
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_70"></span>[[#msg_70|[12:15]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|we should move on
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_71"></span>[[#msg_71|[12:15]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="maxwell.graf">[[#maxwell.graf|Maxwell Graf]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|lol
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_72"></span>[[#msg_72|[12:16]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="nyx.linden">[[#nyx.linden|Nyx Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|believe us, we've been thinking about it and discussing it. Not having the resources to implement it doesn't mean it hasn't been discussed
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_73"></span>[[#msg_73|[12:16]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="lonetorus.habilis">[[#lonetorus.habilis|lonetorus Habilis]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|and im not even asking you nyx, you always gave snake answers ;)
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_74"></span>[[#msg_74|[12:16]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="graham.dartmouth">[[#graham.dartmouth|Graham Dartmouth]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|nyx, with respect, the community are more concerned with agtions than discussions
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_75"></span>[[#msg_75|[12:16]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="maxwell.graf">[[#maxwell.graf|Maxwell Graf]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|If you look and listen closely, you can almost hear the wheels of the big machine turning...
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_76"></span>[[#msg_76|[12:17]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="rusalka.writer">[[#rusalka.writer|Rusalka Writer]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Can we do agenda ahead of conspiracy?
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_77"></span>[[#msg_77|[12:17]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|#2 Re. SH-2374, the idea of a privately funded solution (i.e. kickstarter) has been suggested and is being considered. If such a thing were to move forward, would you be willing to work with such a project to expedite the process, through the snowstorm devs or other avenue, and if so, to what extent? (Maxwell Graf)
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_78"></span>[[#msg_78|[12:17]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|this one seems more like a discussion between y'all
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_79"></span>[[#msg_79|[12:18]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="maxwell.graf">[[#maxwell.graf|Maxwell Graf]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|actually, its aimed directly at yall.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_80"></span>[[#msg_80|[12:18]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|oops, correct
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_81"></span>[[#msg_81|[12:18]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="ashasekayi.ra">[[#ashasekayi.ra|Asha (ashasekayi.ra)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|As in a discussion for 3rd party viewer devs?
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_82"></span>[[#msg_82|[12:18]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="nebadon.izumi">[[#nebadon.izumi|Nebadon Izumi]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|it's comin right for us
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_83"></span>[[#msg_83|[12:19]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="maxwell.graf">[[#maxwell.graf|Maxwell Graf]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|in other words, if it were to be funded privately, how much help, if any, could we get from you on this?
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_84"></span>[[#msg_84|[12:19]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="maxwell.graf">[[#maxwell.graf|Maxwell Graf]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|TPV devs or no
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_85"></span>[[#msg_85|[12:19]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="maxwell.graf">[[#maxwell.graf|Maxwell Graf]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|just from the LL side.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_86"></span>[[#msg_86|[12:19]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|We're discussing...
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_87"></span>[[#msg_87|[12:20]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="jusden.jonstone">[[#jusden.jonstone|Jusden Jonstone]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|if something were developed outside and it was functional is something you can at least commit that you would consider adopting and pushing upstream into linden development?
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_88"></span>[[#msg_88|[12:22]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="maxwell.graf">[[#maxwell.graf|Maxwell Graf]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|the option of sending you liquor, hookers and chocolate is still on the table.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_89"></span>[[#msg_89|[12:22]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="graham.dartmouth">[[#graham.dartmouth|Graham Dartmouth]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|privately funded, of course
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_90"></span>[[#msg_90|[12:22]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="maxwell.graf">[[#maxwell.graf|Maxwell Graf]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|aye
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_91"></span>[[#msg_91|[12:22]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="ashasekayi.ra">[[#ashasekayi.ra|Asha (ashasekayi.ra)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|lol
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_92"></span>[[#msg_92|[12:23]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="nalates.urriah">[[#nalates.urriah|Nal (nalates.urriah)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Nobobdy is getting any of my chololate.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_93"></span>[[#msg_93|[12:23]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="vir.linden">[[#vir.linden|Vir Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|We can discuss external dev work more when we have a chance to follow up. Still looking at our technical options.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_94"></span>[[#msg_94|[12:23]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="eithne.blaylock">[[#eithne.blaylock|eithne Blaylock]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|or my Liquor
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_95"></span>[[#msg_95|[12:23]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="vir.linden">[[#vir.linden|Vir Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|We will plan to revisit in 2 weeks.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_96"></span>[[#msg_96|[12:23]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="wolfpup.lowenhar">[[#wolfpup.lowenhar|Wolfpup (wolfpup.lowenhar)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|i know the project im working on has a major techinical hold up @ the monent
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_97"></span>[[#msg_97|[12:23]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="nalates.urriah">[[#nalates.urriah|Nal (nalates.urriah)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|u mean revisit here, or among yourselves?
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_98"></span>[[#msg_98|[12:24]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="vir.linden">[[#vir.linden|Vir Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Discuss here in 2 weeks.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_99"></span>[[#msg_99|[12:24]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="nebadon.izumi">[[#nebadon.izumi|Nebadon Izumi]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|sounds fair
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_100"></span>[[#msg_100|[12:24]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="prep.linden">[[#prep.linden|Prep Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|One of the options is that we are looking into supporting rigging to collision volumes, but we need some sample content that has a rigged mesh that is weighted to the avatar collision volumes. This might scale to match the morph distortions...but we need some samples. (send them to prep@lindenlab.com)
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_101"></span>[[#msg_101|[12:24]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="ashasekayi.ra">[[#ashasekayi.ra|Asha (ashasekayi.ra)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Oh great
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_102"></span>[[#msg_102|[12:24]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="nalates.urriah">[[#nalates.urriah|Nal (nalates.urriah)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|fair enough Thx
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_103"></span>[[#msg_103|[12:24]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|ok. next item:
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_104"></span>[[#msg_104|[12:24]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|#3 CTS transition - Fate of CTS jiras. I saw this messgae on one of my CTS jiras "Please enter your Mesh related bug in project "1. Second Life Viewer - VWR" and set the Component to "Mesh". Thank you!". Does this mean they will be eliminated unless we re-enter them? Is there a way of doing this that will preserver comments etc? (Drongle McMahon)
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_105"></span>[[#msg_105|[12:24]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="ashasekayi.ra">[[#ashasekayi.ra|Asha (ashasekayi.ra)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Rigged to the collision volume?
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_106"></span>[[#msg_106|[12:24]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="prep.linden">[[#prep.linden|Prep Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|asha: yes
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_107"></span>[[#msg_107|[12:25]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="maxwell.graf">[[#maxwell.graf|Maxwell Graf]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|if the offset of the deformation is only .001 away from the initial mesh physics of the avatar, why is that even part of the solution?
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_108"></span>[[#msg_108|[12:25]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="maxwell.graf">[[#maxwell.graf|Maxwell Graf]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|it seems like thats being overly complicated.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_109"></span>[[#msg_109|[12:25]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="vir.linden">[[#vir.linden|Vir Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|We are not deleting content, but we are phasing out CTS for new issues.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_110"></span>[[#msg_110|[12:26]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="wolfpup.lowenhar">[[#wolfpup.lowenhar|Wolfpup (wolfpup.lowenhar)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|wouldn't it be better to have the new av mesh physic match even if it is only so little off?
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_111"></span>[[#msg_111|[12:26]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="drongle.mcmahon">[[#drongle.mcmahon|Drongle McMahon]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Vir ... so should we re-enter them in VWR if we want you to keep them in mind?
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_112"></span>[[#msg_112|[12:27]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="vir.linden">[[#vir.linden|Vir Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Do not need to reenter existing bugs
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_113"></span>[[#msg_113|[12:27]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="drongle.mcmahon">[[#drongle.mcmahon|Drongle McMahon]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|ok
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_114"></span>[[#msg_114|[12:27]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="vir.linden">[[#vir.linden|Vir Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|We triage these things weekly
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_115"></span>[[#msg_115|[12:27]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Next
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_116"></span>[[#msg_116|[12:27]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|#4 I noticed that SH-2435 was marked resolved although the problem remains (albeit not the SL uploader's fault). In another jira, it was mentioned that an extra option could be added to the the SL uploader to counter the Blender 2.5x rotation issue for joint offsets. Is this still being considered? [Ashasekayi Ra]
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_117"></span>[[#msg_117|[12:29]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="prep.linden">[[#prep.linden|Prep Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Yes, but we are giving the Blender fellows a chance to resolve it. If it doesn't seem like they are, we'll up the priority in that jira.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_118"></span>[[#msg_118|[12:29]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="ashasekayi.ra">[[#ashasekayi.ra|Asha (ashasekayi.ra)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Alrighty then. Thanks.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_119"></span>[[#msg_119|[12:29]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|ok, then, next?
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_120"></span>[[#msg_120|[12:30]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="rusalka.writer">[[#rusalka.writer|Rusalka Writer]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Pony.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_121"></span>[[#msg_121|[12:30]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|#5 The date of daily build is not correct. It shows "10/04/2011 8:26:41 (1317684401)". It is the date of future. [Yuzuru Jewell]
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_122"></span>[[#msg_122|[12:30]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="yuzuru.jewell">[[#yuzuru.jewell|Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/mesh-development/rev/242181/index.html
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_123"></span>[[#msg_123|[12:30]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="nyx.linden">[[#nyx.linden|Nyx Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|you can reproduce bugs we haven't even written yet!
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_124"></span>[[#msg_124|[12:30]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|getting builds from the future is a Feature!
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_125"></span>[[#msg_125|[12:31]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="eleanora.newell">[[#eleanora.newell|Eleanora Newell]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|lol
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_126"></span>[[#msg_126|[12:31]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="yuzuru.jewell">[[#yuzuru.jewell|Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|I want to know correct build date.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_127"></span>[[#msg_127|[12:31]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="rusalka.writer">[[#rusalka.writer|Rusalka Writer]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Now they can take tomorrow off.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_128"></span>[[#msg_128|[12:31]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="runitai.linden">[[#runitai.linden|davep (runitai.linden)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|the build farm is trying to use the Scotty method, but it doesn't quite get it
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_129"></span>[[#msg_129|[12:31]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="imaze.rhiano">[[#imaze.rhiano|Imaze Rhiano]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|awww... breaking causality laws again? ebil... ebill....
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_130"></span>[[#msg_130|[12:31]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="yuzuru.jewell">[[#yuzuru.jewell|Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Please show it by SLT.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_131"></span>[[#msg_131|[12:32]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="drongle.mcmahon">[[#drongle.mcmahon|Drongle McMahon]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|It's in New Zealand
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_132"></span>[[#msg_132|[12:32]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="runitai.linden">[[#runitai.linden|davep (runitai.linden)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|in all seriousness, though, yeah, that's odd
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_133"></span>[[#msg_133|[12:32]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="runitai.linden">[[#runitai.linden|davep (runitai.linden)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|passing that along to the build farm folks now
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_134"></span>[[#msg_134|[12:33]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="wolfpup.lowenhar">[[#wolfpup.lowenhar|Wolfpup (wolfpup.lowenhar)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|it looks like the build farm picked up GMT instead of the local time
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_135"></span>[[#msg_135|[12:33]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="drongle.mcmahon">[[#drongle.mcmahon|Drongle McMahon]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Wherte is the international dateline in SL?
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_136"></span>[[#msg_136|[12:33]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="rusalka.writer">[[#rusalka.writer|Rusalka Writer]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|To the right.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_137"></span>[[#msg_137|[12:33]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="nebadon.izumi">[[#nebadon.izumi|Nebadon Izumi]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|maybe its a UTC time?
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_138"></span>[[#msg_138|[12:33]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="yuzuru.jewell">[[#yuzuru.jewell|Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|I can't check the viewer was updated.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_139"></span>[[#msg_139|[12:33]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="nebadon.izumi">[[#nebadon.izumi|Nebadon Izumi]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|vs PDT
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_140"></span>[[#msg_140|[12:34]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="drongle.mcmahon">[[#drongle.mcmahon|Drongle McMahon]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|I always thought it was converted to local time of the person looking at it.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_141"></span>[[#msg_141|[12:34]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="wolfpup.lowenhar">[[#wolfpup.lowenhar|Wolfpup (wolfpup.lowenhar)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|gmc and utc are similar as they are based @ the same reference line
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_142"></span>[[#msg_142|[12:34]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="yuzuru.jewell">[[#yuzuru.jewell|Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Here is 4:34AM
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_143"></span>[[#msg_143|[12:34]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="rusalka.writer">[[#rusalka.writer|Rusalka Writer]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Yeey.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_144"></span>[[#msg_144|[12:34]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="ashasekayi.ra">[[#ashasekayi.ra|Asha (ashasekayi.ra)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|ouch
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_145"></span>[[#msg_145|[12:34]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="wolfpup.lowenhar">[[#wolfpup.lowenhar|Wolfpup (wolfpup.lowenhar)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|im three hours ahead of SLT my self
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_146"></span>[[#msg_146|[12:35]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="yuzuru.jewell">[[#yuzuru.jewell|Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|But it shows 8:26AM..
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_147"></span>[[#msg_147|[12:35]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="rusalka.writer">[[#rusalka.writer|Rusalka Writer]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Three hours behind here.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_148"></span>[[#msg_148|[12:35]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|That's the end of the agenda, folks
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_149"></span>[[#msg_149|[12:35]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="rusalka.writer">[[#rusalka.writer|Rusalka Writer]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Oh, yeah.
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_150"></span>[[#msg_150|[12:35]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="rusalka.writer">[[#rusalka.writer|Rusalka Writer]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Be back next week for more invisible ponies!
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_151"></span>[[#msg_151|[12:36]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="wolfpup.lowenhar">[[#wolfpup.lowenhar|Wolfpup (wolfpup.lowenhar)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Yuzura if it built @ say 0026 SLT then utc/gmt would be 0826
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_152"></span>[[#msg_152|[12:36]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="ashasekayi.ra">[[#ashasekayi.ra|Asha (ashasekayi.ra)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|you guys asked for example content rigged to avatar collision volumes. Where would we get the avatar with collision volumes intact?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_153"></span>[[#msg_153|[12:36]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="ashasekayi.ra">[[#ashasekayi.ra|Asha (ashasekayi.ra)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|*You
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_154"></span>[[#msg_154|[12:36]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="eleanora.newell">[[#eleanora.newell|Eleanora Newell]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|thank you for addressing that first issue with us, lindens
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_155"></span>[[#msg_155|[12:37]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="eleanora.newell">[[#eleanora.newell|Eleanora Newell]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|yeah, asha's question, how do we do that?
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_156"></span>[[#msg_156|[12:37]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="yuzuru.jewell">[[#yuzuru.jewell|Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Thank you wolfpup. I found it was a bug of time translation..
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_157"></span>[[#msg_157|[12:37]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="nyx.linden">[[#nyx.linden|Nyx Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|local to your machine?
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_158"></span>[[#msg_158|[12:39]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="yuzuru.jewell">[[#yuzuru.jewell|Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|not
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_159"></span>[[#msg_159|[12:40]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="nyx.linden">[[#nyx.linden|Nyx Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|so we still need to look into the issue, correct yuzuru?
|-style="background-color: #EFE3B3;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_160"></span>[[#msg_160|[12:40]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="prep.linden">[[#prep.linden|Prep Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Asha: you might to have create them and name them ... hold checking the source for the names...
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_161"></span>[[#msg_161|[12:41]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="wolfpup.lowenhar">[[#wolfpup.lowenhar|Wolfpup (wolfpup.lowenhar)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Prep could the default be pulled from the viewr itself?
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_162"></span>[[#msg_162|[12:41]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="ashasekayi.ra">[[#ashasekayi.ra|Asha (ashasekayi.ra)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|What source?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_163"></span>[[#msg_163|[12:41]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="yuzuru.jewell">[[#yuzuru.jewell|Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Thank you. Nyx.
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_164"></span>[[#msg_164|[12:42]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="ashasekayi.ra">[[#ashasekayi.ra|Asha (ashasekayi.ra)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Source as in the code for the mesh viewer?
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_165"></span>[[#msg_165|[12:43]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="prep.linden">[[#prep.linden|Prep Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Asha: we're checking into this atm...
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_166"></span>[[#msg_166|[12:43]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="ashasekayi.ra">[[#ashasekayi.ra|Asha (ashasekayi.ra)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Alright.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_167"></span>[[#msg_167|[12:46]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="prep.linden">[[#prep.linden|Prep Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Asha: So it looks like you'll need to create the collision volumes and name them from the avatar_skeleton.xml accordingly. So the pevlsi collision volume would be named PELVIS.
|-style="background-color: #EFE3B3;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_168"></span>[[#msg_168|[12:46]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="prep.linden">[[#prep.linden|Prep Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|I'll post some notes and a request in the forums.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_169"></span>[[#msg_169|[12:46]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="ashasekayi.ra">[[#ashasekayi.ra|Asha (ashasekayi.ra)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Thanks Prep, That would be helpful.
|-style="background-color: #EFE3B3;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_170"></span>[[#msg_170|[12:47]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|I have a general request: If you are a creator who has a *significant* interest in pathfinding (dynamic object movement thru the world) and would be willing to commit some time, please send me an email (charlar@lindenlab.com).
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_171"></span>[[#msg_171|[12:47]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="wolfpup.lowenhar">[[#wolfpup.lowenhar|Wolfpup (wolfpup.lowenhar)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Nyx could i get a few minutes of your time after the meeting
|-style="background-color: #EFE3B3;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_172"></span>[[#msg_172|[12:48]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|i think we're pretty much done here, folks....
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_173"></span>[[#msg_173|[12:49]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="eleanora.newell">[[#eleanora.newell|Eleanora Newell]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|thanks, lindens
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_174"></span>[[#msg_174|[12:49]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="ashasekayi.ra">[[#ashasekayi.ra|Asha (ashasekayi.ra)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Thanks for the meeting.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_175"></span>[[#msg_175|[12:49]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="rusalka.writer">[[#rusalka.writer|Rusalka Writer]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Aloha!
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_176"></span>[[#msg_176|[12:49]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="graham.dartmouth">[[#graham.dartmouth|Graham Dartmouth]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|°&#860;°
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_177"></span>[[#msg_177|[12:49]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="graham.dartmouth">[[#graham.dartmouth|Graham Dartmouth]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|tune in next week same time
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_178"></span>[[#msg_178|[12:49]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="eleanora.newell">[[#eleanora.newell|Eleanora Newell]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|bye, everyone
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_179"></span>[[#msg_179|[12:49]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="eithne.blaylock">[[#eithne.blaylock|eithne Blaylock]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|bye
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_180"></span>[[#msg_180|[12:49]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="ashasekayi.ra">[[#ashasekayi.ra|Asha (ashasekayi.ra)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Bye El
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_181"></span>[[#msg_181|[12:49]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="rain.edring">[[#rain.edring|Rain Edring]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|bye
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_182"></span>[[#msg_182|[12:50]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="aki.shichiroji">[[#aki.shichiroji|Aki (aki.shichiroji)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Thanks for the meeting. Passing your request on to Neobokrug Elytis, Charlar. I believe he was working something related
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_183"></span>[[#msg_183|[12:50]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|i'm calling it - the usergroup meeting is done, thanks!
|-style="background-color: #EFE3B3;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_184"></span>[[#msg_184|[12:50]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|see you next week
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_185"></span>[[#msg_185|[12:50]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="charlar.linden">[[#charlar.linden|Charlar Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|thanks Aki
|-style="background-color: #EFE3B3;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_186"></span>[[#msg_186|[12:50]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="vir.linden">[[#vir.linden|Vir Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|bye all
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_187"></span>[[#msg_187|[12:50]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="runitai.linden">[[#runitai.linden|davep (runitai.linden)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|thanks folks
|-style="background-color: #EFE3B3;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_188"></span>[[#msg_188|[12:50]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="prep.linden">[[#prep.linden|Prep Linden]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|bye folks!
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_189"></span>[[#msg_189|[12:50]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="graham.dartmouth">[[#graham.dartmouth|Graham Dartmouth]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|thank you lindens
|-style="background-color: #C7C4D4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_190"></span>[[#msg_190|[12:50]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="yuzuru.jewell">[[#yuzuru.jewell|Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|See you next week!
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; vertical-align: top;"|<span id="msg_191"></span>[[#msg_191|[12:50]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|<span title="nalates.urriah">[[#nalates.urriah|Nal (nalates.urriah)]]</span>
|width=100% style="padding:0 6px;"|Thx akk
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Latest revision as of 08:54, 10 October 2011

Agenda

  1. SH-2374 (Rigged Mesh Deformer) has been deferred from Sprint 28 to "Someday/Maybe". Could you give us the overall priority/status of making attached mesh conform to all avatar appearance sliders? If making attachments fit is being addressed some other way, please point us to where [DanielRavenNest Noe]
  2. Re. SH-2374, the idea of a privately funded solution (i.e. kickstarter) has been suggested and is being considered. If such a thing were to move forward, would you be willing to work with such a project to expedite the process, through the snowstorm devs or other avenue, and if so, to what extent? (Maxwell Graf)
  3. CTS transition - Fate of CTS jiras. I saw this messgae on one of my CTS jiras "Please enter your Mesh related bug in project "1. Second Life Viewer - VWR" and set the Component to "Mesh". Thank you!". Does this mean they will be eliminated unless we re-enter them? Is there a way of doing this that will preserver comments etc? (Drongle McMahon)
  4. I noticed that SH-2435 was marked resolved although the problem remains (albeit not the SL uploader's fault). In another jira, it was mentioned that an extra option could be added to the the SL uploader to counter the Blender 2.5x rotation issue for joint offsets. Is this still being considered? [Ashasekayi Ra]
  5. The date of daily build is not correct. It shows "10/04/2011 8:26:41 (1317684401)". It is the date of future. [Yuzuru Jewell]

Meeting Notes

Transcript for Monday October 3, 2011

[12:01] Nebadon Izumi is it me or is the sim next door missing?
[12:01] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell) I can update my tools by your advice. Thank you.
[12:01] eithne Blaylock hi
[12:01] Maxwell Graf its down, nebs
[12:01] Nal (nalates.urriah) its missing
[12:01] Nebadon Izumi k
[12:01] Maxwell Graf been down for days
[12:01] Nebadon Izumi oh heh
[12:01] Charlar Linden ackk
[12:01] Asha (ashasekayi.ra) Asha waves to Eithne, El and Rusalka
[12:01] Charlar Linden one of our submarines, i mean sims, is missing
[12:01] Rusalka Writer Aloha!
[12:01] Graham Dartmouth think ele is still afk
[12:03] Eleanora Newell back, hi all
[12:03] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell) Hello. Vir Linden.
[12:03] Asha (ashasekayi.ra) wb
[12:03] Rusalka Writer Dang.
[12:04] Vir Linden Hi all.
[12:04] Charlar Linden ok let's get started folks
[12:04] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell) Agenda is not cleaed.
[12:04] Asha (ashasekayi.ra) The questions above Daniel's are from last week btw.
[12:04] Charlar Linden i'm sorry - hold on
[12:05] davep (runitai.linden) http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Content_Creation/Mesh_Import_User_Group
[12:05] davep (runitai.linden) 1-5 are from last week
[12:05] Charlar Linden i'm sorry - hold on#1 SH-2374 (Rigged Mesh Deformer) has been deferred from Sprint 28 to "Someday/Maybe". Could you give us the overall priority/status of making attached mesh conform to all avatar appearance sliders? If making attachments fit is being addressed some other way, please point us to where [DanielRavenNest Noe]
[12:05] Charlar Linden (using new numbering)
[12:06] Maxwell Graf lol
[12:06] Jusden Jonstone lol
[12:06] Asha (ashasekayi.ra) lmao
[12:06] Eleanora Newell :)
[12:06] Nebadon Izumi heheh
[12:06] Graham Dartmouth wtg Max
[12:06] Jusden Jonstone Jusden Jonstone taps toes
[12:08] Asha (ashasekayi.ra) Asha ponders the silent void. o.o
[12:08] Charlar Linden we're looking into options on this, more investigation. I'm going to add some notes to SH-2374 to that effect. We know this is something important to people. We'll have an update in the next couple weeks.
[12:08] Charlar Linden Additionally we may be reaching out to some of you individually for feedback.
[12:09] Maxwell Graf Excellent. That clears things up a bit.
[12:09] Eleanora Newell That would be appreciated, thank you.
[12:09] Charlar Linden the 'someday/maybe' title for the backlog it got moved to is not bad, like it might imply
[12:09] Asha (ashasekayi.ra) Thanks. That sounds more promising than just the "maybe".
[12:10] Charlar Linden it just means we don't have it scheduled currently.
[12:10] Charlar Linden We do also have some internal tasks to research, which aren't visible. Sorry for the confusion around that.
[12:10] Graham Dartmouth understood, but I dont think its an issue that is going to go away
[12:10] Charlar Linden Next?
[12:10] Maxwell Graf consider also that the almost 800 who voted on it are only a % of those who are actually concerned and affected by this.
[12:10] Vir Linden It's something we would like to do. Currently there are many non-mesh priorities that also require development resources, so it's always a balancing act.
[12:10] Charlar Linden right Graham, which is one reason we're still looking at it.
[12:11] Nebadon Izumi ok well I think perhaps in the future, when changing status of that nature
[12:11] Graham Dartmouth appreciate your answer :0
[12:11] Nebadon Izumi a Linden should make some comments explaining their action
[12:11] Charlar Linden as I said, i'm goign to be updating that jira later
[12:11] Nebadon Izumi you could avoid pitchfork and torch scenarios
[12:11] Vir Linden The "fix version" field is intended for internal use by sprint teams.
[12:11] Maxwell Graf It would help us a lot. :)
[12:11] Vir Linden It really isn't meaningful for anyone else.
[12:12] Maxwell Graf it is when there are 800 people watching it for updates.
[12:12] Nal (nalates.urriah) yeah, save us lugging the tar and featuers to the meetings.
[12:12] Nebadon Izumi lol
[12:12] Asha (ashasekayi.ra) I'm very glad to hear that you guys are still exploring it. I mean it is the most interesting part of mesh for me and some other creators.
[12:12] Jusden Jonstone and then its changed without any explaination whatsoever....i think we all have seen JIRA's relegated to similar descriptions and sit idle with no action for years
[12:13] Graham Dartmouth from what I understand from many students, it is a deal breaker for adopting mesh
[12:13] Maxwell Graf you crazy guys, you had us going there for a minute, yuk yuk yuk.
[12:13] Rusalka Writer I thought Blender was the deal breaker.
[12:13] Asha (ashasekayi.ra) Asha nods. "I've heard that too Graham."
[12:13] Eleanora Newell for many it is the defining line as to whether they will accept mesh clothing or not
[12:13] lonetorus Habilis runitai, do you have any comments on parametric deformers and layer systems? (no you dont know when) but perhaps some technical thoughts and or possibilities?
[12:14] Maxwell Graf ....... ....... .......
[12:14] Asha (ashasekayi.ra) Asha snorts
[12:14] davep (runitai.linden) I have no comment -- focused on GL compatibility issues, myself
[12:15] lonetorus Habilis noone from the linden side brave enough to give it some thought? XD
[12:15] Charlar Linden we should move on
[12:15] Maxwell Graf lol
[12:16] Nyx Linden believe us, we've been thinking about it and discussing it. Not having the resources to implement it doesn't mean it hasn't been discussed
[12:16] lonetorus Habilis and im not even asking you nyx, you always gave snake answers ;)
[12:16] Graham Dartmouth nyx, with respect, the community are more concerned with agtions than discussions
[12:16] Maxwell Graf If you look and listen closely, you can almost hear the wheels of the big machine turning...
[12:17] Rusalka Writer Can we do agenda ahead of conspiracy?
[12:17] Charlar Linden #2 Re. SH-2374, the idea of a privately funded solution (i.e. kickstarter) has been suggested and is being considered. If such a thing were to move forward, would you be willing to work with such a project to expedite the process, through the snowstorm devs or other avenue, and if so, to what extent? (Maxwell Graf)
[12:17] Charlar Linden this one seems more like a discussion between y'all
[12:18] Maxwell Graf actually, its aimed directly at yall.
[12:18] Charlar Linden oops, correct
[12:18] Asha (ashasekayi.ra) As in a discussion for 3rd party viewer devs?
[12:18] Nebadon Izumi it's comin right for us
[12:19] Maxwell Graf in other words, if it were to be funded privately, how much help, if any, could we get from you on this?
[12:19] Maxwell Graf TPV devs or no
[12:19] Maxwell Graf just from the LL side.
[12:19] Charlar Linden We're discussing...
[12:20] Jusden Jonstone if something were developed outside and it was functional is something you can at least commit that you would consider adopting and pushing upstream into linden development?
[12:22] Maxwell Graf the option of sending you liquor, hookers and chocolate is still on the table.
[12:22] Graham Dartmouth privately funded, of course
[12:22] Maxwell Graf aye
[12:22] Asha (ashasekayi.ra) lol
[12:23] Nal (nalates.urriah) Nobobdy is getting any of my chololate.
[12:23] Vir Linden We can discuss external dev work more when we have a chance to follow up. Still looking at our technical options.
[12:23] eithne Blaylock or my Liquor
[12:23] Vir Linden We will plan to revisit in 2 weeks.
[12:23] Wolfpup (wolfpup.lowenhar) i know the project im working on has a major techinical hold up @ the monent
[12:23] Nal (nalates.urriah) u mean revisit here, or among yourselves?
[12:24] Vir Linden Discuss here in 2 weeks.
[12:24] Nebadon Izumi sounds fair
[12:24] Prep Linden One of the options is that we are looking into supporting rigging to collision volumes, but we need some sample content that has a rigged mesh that is weighted to the avatar collision volumes. This might scale to match the morph distortions...but we need some samples. (send them to prep@lindenlab.com)
[12:24] Asha (ashasekayi.ra) Oh great
[12:24] Nal (nalates.urriah) fair enough Thx
[12:24] Charlar Linden ok. next item:
[12:24] Charlar Linden #3 CTS transition - Fate of CTS jiras. I saw this messgae on one of my CTS jiras "Please enter your Mesh related bug in project "1. Second Life Viewer - VWR" and set the Component to "Mesh". Thank you!". Does this mean they will be eliminated unless we re-enter them? Is there a way of doing this that will preserver comments etc? (Drongle McMahon)
[12:24] Asha (ashasekayi.ra) Rigged to the collision volume?
[12:24] Prep Linden asha: yes
[12:25] Maxwell Graf if the offset of the deformation is only .001 away from the initial mesh physics of the avatar, why is that even part of the solution?
[12:25] Maxwell Graf it seems like thats being overly complicated.
[12:25] Vir Linden We are not deleting content, but we are phasing out CTS for new issues.
[12:26] Wolfpup (wolfpup.lowenhar) wouldn't it be better to have the new av mesh physic match even if it is only so little off?
[12:26] Drongle McMahon Vir ... so should we re-enter them in VWR if we want you to keep them in mind?
[12:27] Vir Linden Do not need to reenter existing bugs
[12:27] Drongle McMahon ok
[12:27] Vir Linden We triage these things weekly
[12:27] Charlar Linden Next
[12:27] Charlar Linden #4 I noticed that SH-2435 was marked resolved although the problem remains (albeit not the SL uploader's fault). In another jira, it was mentioned that an extra option could be added to the the SL uploader to counter the Blender 2.5x rotation issue for joint offsets. Is this still being considered? [Ashasekayi Ra]
[12:29] Prep Linden Yes, but we are giving the Blender fellows a chance to resolve it. If it doesn't seem like they are, we'll up the priority in that jira.
[12:29] Asha (ashasekayi.ra) Alrighty then. Thanks.
[12:29] Charlar Linden ok, then, next?
[12:30] Rusalka Writer Pony.
[12:30] Charlar Linden #5 The date of daily build is not correct. It shows "10/04/2011 8:26:41 (1317684401)". It is the date of future. [Yuzuru Jewell]
[12:30] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell) http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/mesh-development/rev/242181/index.html
[12:30] Nyx Linden you can reproduce bugs we haven't even written yet!
[12:30] Charlar Linden getting builds from the future is a Feature!
[12:31] Eleanora Newell lol
[12:31] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell) I want to know correct build date.
[12:31] Rusalka Writer Now they can take tomorrow off.
[12:31] davep (runitai.linden) the build farm is trying to use the Scotty method, but it doesn't quite get it
[12:31] Imaze Rhiano awww... breaking causality laws again? ebil... ebill....
[12:31] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell) Please show it by SLT.
[12:32] Drongle McMahon It's in New Zealand
[12:32] davep (runitai.linden) in all seriousness, though, yeah, that's odd
[12:32] davep (runitai.linden) passing that along to the build farm folks now
[12:33] Wolfpup (wolfpup.lowenhar) it looks like the build farm picked up GMT instead of the local time
[12:33] Drongle McMahon Wherte is the international dateline in SL?
[12:33] Rusalka Writer To the right.
[12:33] Nebadon Izumi maybe its a UTC time?
[12:33] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell) I can't check the viewer was updated.
[12:33] Nebadon Izumi vs PDT
[12:34] Drongle McMahon I always thought it was converted to local time of the person looking at it.
[12:34] Wolfpup (wolfpup.lowenhar) gmc and utc are similar as they are based @ the same reference line
[12:34] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell) Here is 4:34AM
[12:34] Rusalka Writer Yeey.
[12:34] Asha (ashasekayi.ra) ouch
[12:34] Wolfpup (wolfpup.lowenhar) im three hours ahead of SLT my self
[12:35] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell) But it shows 8:26AM..
[12:35] Rusalka Writer Three hours behind here.
[12:35] Charlar Linden That's the end of the agenda, folks
[12:35] Rusalka Writer Oh, yeah.
[12:35] Rusalka Writer Be back next week for more invisible ponies!
[12:36] Wolfpup (wolfpup.lowenhar) Yuzura if it built @ say 0026 SLT then utc/gmt would be 0826
[12:36] Asha (ashasekayi.ra) you guys asked for example content rigged to avatar collision volumes. Where would we get the avatar with collision volumes intact?
[12:36] Asha (ashasekayi.ra) *You
[12:36] Eleanora Newell thank you for addressing that first issue with us, lindens
[12:37] Eleanora Newell yeah, asha's question, how do we do that?
[12:37] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell) Thank you wolfpup. I found it was a bug of time translation..
[12:37] Nyx Linden local to your machine?
[12:39] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell) not
[12:40] Nyx Linden so we still need to look into the issue, correct yuzuru?
[12:40] Prep Linden Asha: you might to have create them and name them ... hold checking the source for the names...
[12:41] Wolfpup (wolfpup.lowenhar) Prep could the default be pulled from the viewr itself?
[12:41] Asha (ashasekayi.ra) What source?
[12:41] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell) Thank you. Nyx.
[12:42] Asha (ashasekayi.ra) Source as in the code for the mesh viewer?
[12:43] Prep Linden Asha: we're checking into this atm...
[12:43] Asha (ashasekayi.ra) Alright.
[12:46] Prep Linden Asha: So it looks like you'll need to create the collision volumes and name them from the avatar_skeleton.xml accordingly. So the pevlsi collision volume would be named PELVIS.
[12:46] Prep Linden I'll post some notes and a request in the forums.
[12:46] Asha (ashasekayi.ra) Thanks Prep, That would be helpful.
[12:47] Charlar Linden I have a general request: If you are a creator who has a *significant* interest in pathfinding (dynamic object movement thru the world) and would be willing to commit some time, please send me an email (charlar@lindenlab.com).
[12:47] Wolfpup (wolfpup.lowenhar) Nyx could i get a few minutes of your time after the meeting
[12:48] Charlar Linden i think we're pretty much done here, folks....
[12:49] Eleanora Newell thanks, lindens
[12:49] Asha (ashasekayi.ra) Thanks for the meeting.
[12:49] Rusalka Writer Aloha!
[12:49] Graham Dartmouth °͜°
[12:49] Graham Dartmouth tune in next week same time
[12:49] Eleanora Newell bye, everyone
[12:49] eithne Blaylock bye
[12:49] Asha (ashasekayi.ra) Bye El
[12:49] Rain Edring bye
[12:50] Aki (aki.shichiroji) Thanks for the meeting. Passing your request on to Neobokrug Elytis, Charlar. I believe he was working something related
[12:50] Charlar Linden i'm calling it - the usergroup meeting is done, thanks!
[12:50] Charlar Linden see you next week
[12:50] Charlar Linden thanks Aki
[12:50] Vir Linden bye all
[12:50] davep (runitai.linden) thanks folks
[12:50] Prep Linden bye folks!
[12:50] Graham Dartmouth thank you lindens
[12:50] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell) See you next week!
[12:50] Nal (nalates.urriah) Thx akk