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| 07:00 
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে] 
| Hi Oz
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:02]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'':
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden] 
| hi all!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/twisted.laws Twisted Laws] 
| Hi
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'' 
| mail_to set to oz@lindenlab.com
| mail_to set to oz@lindenlab.com
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:02]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'':
| style="white-space:nowrap;"| 
| Start transcription to oz@lindenlab.com
| Start transcription to oz@lindenlab.com
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:02]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'':
| style="white-space:nowrap;"| 
| Transcript will be sent to: oz@lindenlab.com
| Transcript will be sent to: oz@lindenlab.com
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:02]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo] 
| oz, you are rotating it with 1 script?
| hey oz!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:02]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"| 
| or did you use 2 prims?
| ''hopes oz isnt a stealers fan >.>''
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:02]
| 07:01 
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden] 
| 1 script in an invisible root at the center
| no, Patriots & Redskins - I was rooting for Green Bay
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:02]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| it's actually 16 linked prims
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:03]
| 07:02 
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup] 
| I would be curious to see that 1 script rotation code for 2 axis
| i saw the end of the game when i got home from RL work as roommate had the game on
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:03]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]:
| ok, meeting time
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:03]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden] 
| it's full perm... have a look
| it was a very good game
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:03]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| Our agenda is quite full:
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:03]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Open_Development_User_Group#Agenda
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:04]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| VWR-24487
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:04]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'':
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo] 
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24487
| that was one serious game, however shall we get on topic?
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24487 VWR-24487] llurlentry_stub.cpp:196: error: deprecated conversion from string constant to 'char*'
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:04]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden] 
| I meant to talk w/ Q about this before the meeting, but that fell through the cracks
| I was actually coding during it :-)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:04]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| We will get a fix for this done pretty soon one way or another
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:04]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo] 
| dont mind me im snapshotting my ui so i can show something to fredrik..
| oz i sent you a list of what i think are mostly build tools / lib related jiras
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:05]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| we're currently planning our hackathon for getting everything converted to VS 2010, which will want this
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:05]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden] 
| it's tentatively scheduled for the end of next week, I believe
| So... I am in the middle of reorganizing my agenda page for this meeting. so I don't have a link
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|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:05]
| 07:03 
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে] 
| Are we invited?
| https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Oz_Linden/Office_Hours_Topics
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:05]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| I will be asking around to see if we can figure out how open devs can contribute
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:06]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| if nothing else, the repos for all the open stuff we'll be working on will be in public
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:06]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| so you'll be able to see and test what we're doing
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:06]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| I"ll try to do better than that, though.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:06]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| stay tuned
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:07]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup] 
| If it's really bothering people, we could commit the temporary fix we have now, but I am going to want to replace it
| i tested the new auto build reop you did Oz and it still works fin for those with VS pro
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:07]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"| 
| I'll leave that item on our agenda for next time too
| at least for me
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:08]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| next..... OPEN-1 - perhaps Jonathan can give us his view of the status of that
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:08]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'':
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan] 
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-1
| It is failing for Express though, those missing .h files
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-1 OPEN-1] autobuild does not support use with Visual Studio Express
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:08]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]:
| so will this mean going forward everyone will need to sue VS 2010?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:08]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden] 
| use*
| ah... good... let's go over that here today, but I'd like to go over the autobuild issues first
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:08]
| 07:04 
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে] 
| yes, tank
| ok
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:08]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]:
| ok thx
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:08]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα レƔⓞη]:
| starting with 2.6 right?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:09]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| right
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:09]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα レƔⓞη]:
| kk
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:09]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/twisted.laws Twisted Laws] 
| so libs wont be affected?
| as long as autobuild configure works and i can compile with the IDE i'm fine
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:09]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে] 
| well, all of you that work on windows :-)
| ''didn't get to try autobuild, yet''
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|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:09]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup] 
| well yeah :P
| i was having issues with the missing h files till i made an adjustnemt to the ide
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:09]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| all libs too
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|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:09]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan] 
| not a small job
| Wolfpup, that is not a long-term solution I think
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| [13:09]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα レƔⓞη]:
| ouch
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|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:10]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα レƔⓞη]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo] 
| so as soon as you have the libs changed, we'll need to be using 2010 on any revision?
| is there a jira about the h files somewhere?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:10]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/twisted.laws Twisted Laws] 
| Jonathan ... where do we stand w/ VS Express ?
| what'd u change in the ide, wolfpup?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:10]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan] 
| will the old libs be in place for a while to give people time to transision over?
| It was mentioned on the mailing list cummere
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|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:10]
| 07:05 
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden] 
| the old downloads will still be there for old versions
| no, it's not a long term solution, but it may be enough to do the merge
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|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:10]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup] 
| My version runs, with that hack of moving the build directory
| twisted add extra folders ti the includes and libs f under optiond
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:10]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα レƔⓞη]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden] 
| oh good ok
| first things first... I did a pass over the exisiting wiki docs on Autobuild this morning
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:10]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]:
| ok thatll work then, thx
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:10]
| 07:06 
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"| 
| I would like to hear from other people about how theirs runs
| I'd appreciate review/commentary/suggestions/fixes for all the pages linked from https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Autobuild
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|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:11]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"| 
| WOlfpup and Nickyp
| at your lesiure, of course
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:11]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup] 
| so the problem there is that the fact that indra is no longer in the tree above the executable means that it can't find its settings file, right?
| Twisted look up the viewr2_microsoft wiki
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|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:11]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden] 
| yes
| We don't yet have a page specifically on building the viewer with autobuild, but I'm going to start that today
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:11]
| 07:07 
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"| 
| not the saved settings, but the initial ones
| will send a note to the list when it's up
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:11]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/twisted.laws Twisted Laws] 
| I assume that the Pro users don't have this and can run the exe where it is built?
| i already had them in the includes/libs, thanks
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|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:12]
| 07:09 
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden] 
| I know wolfpup uses pro, dunno about Nickyp
| So... the status of OPEN-1
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:12]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'' 
| no takers...
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-1
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-1 OPEN-1] autobuild does not support use with Visual Studio Express
| [13:12]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| ok, well, we'll want to sort that out, but I suspect that it'll be pretty easy
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| [13:12]
| 07:10 
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden] 
| ''hasnt used 2010 yet, so doesnt know how its different''
| Do we believe that we have an acceptable workaround if we modify the autobuild.xml in the viewer to make a configuration specifically for Express ?
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|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:12]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup] 
| why the compiler would make a difference is a mystery
| Jonathan mabey the SDK's your useing might not have the needed files
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|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:13]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"| 
| Tank, this is about autobuild
| that workaround dose look good Oz
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:13]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan] 
| ahh ok
| You will update that xml to have the other options, e.g. Release?
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|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:13]
| 07:11 
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden] 
| it may be that some command is not conditionalized correctly when setting up those files
| I was thinking that we really don't need the others
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:13]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]:
| maybe but as we don't have the build inside indra/ anymore having code in the viewer that tests for that is asking for bugs
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| [13:13]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"| 
| Robin, can you autobuild on Express as another test case?
| no one is going to build a Release viewer with Express
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:13]
| 07:12 
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan] 
| yes, clearly we'll want to change that
| err, I do all the time
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|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:13]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/twisted.laws Twisted Laws] 
| i've only got express in 2005/2010 versions
| it seems to me that something is ignoring the INCLUDE env variable
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:14]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| 05 for now, please
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:14]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"| 
| and yes i can run some other tests
| i do all the time too
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:14]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden] 
| thanks
| and as far as I know there isn't any real advantage to using Debug.... ?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:14]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup] 
| Oz, did you update the source with the /u (?) xml fix
| Oz whant i do my confid i do it forthe normal configureation but then i build in release mode for the ide
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:14]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| not yet, but I'll do that after this meeting
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:14]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/twisted.laws Twisted Laws] 
| next issue is OPEN-4
| until autobuild i've always built release
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|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:14]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'':
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan] 
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-4
| And I copy an existing shortcut to make a new shortcut, I really don't want to have to remember where my binary is and adjust it
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-4 OPEN-4] As an Open Source Developer, I would like to use Fmod in the autobuild system if i have the needed files already
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:15]
| 07:13 
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden] 
| the trick here is that we need at least new instructions on where to put the fmod files under the build tree
| why? in any event, I hope to get a real fix that will let autobuild adapt to Express and use the normal configurations
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|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:15]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/twisted.laws Twisted Laws] 
| that is just small change, right?
| i share my builds with 2 or 3 other people and share the install that is built as well as changes
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|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:16]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden] 
| ideally, I'd like to go one better and do an autobuild re-package project so that you can check that out, build it, and you'll have a local archive that your viewer build can use
| doesn't building in release mode loose symbols ?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:16]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan] 
| at one point (snowglobe 1.x) we had an optinon were we could pass a var with FMOD_SDK_DIR and it just used that to find all the bits it needed
| Also, before forcing WithDebug on us, it would be nice to do a timing test--1hr 15m to compile is already hard enough on me
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| [13:16]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]:
| interesting, is that failing for all platforms?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:17]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]:
| FMOD logic had to be changed quite a bit to it to require being used only in private mode
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:17]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]:
| ''thinks he should look into that one''
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:17]
| 07:14 
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"| 
| would _love_ your help, Merov - let's talk after this
| And a link time of 6 minutes--I don't want more symbols, work done by the compiler, etc
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:18]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup] 
| is there something with having "Wolf" in your name and being unable to spell?
| the only way to do that would be for autobuild do like develop.py dose now and test for express
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:18]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα レƔⓞη]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden] 
| I lol'd
| no one is forcing anything... let's not start that
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:18]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan] 
| ''has to parse comments twice to make sense of them''
| sorry, poor choice of words
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:18]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/twisted.laws Twisted Laws] 
| we've got a lot of *wolf* names on this project... not sure what that tells us...
| i've been building my own viewer for over 3 years and have never had unsurmountable issues till now :(
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:18]
| 07:15 
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden] 
| oh man, theres to meny wolves out there...
| My concern is that I dont' want to continue the combinatorial explosion of configurations
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:19]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα レƔⓞη]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan] 
| we have a lot of 'wolfs' on the phoenix project too >.>
| I am curious about something--
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:19]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα レƔⓞη]:
| they're taking over
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:19]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে] 
| I even saw a "Wolf Linden" on jira today
| make the config modular?
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|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:19]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα レƔⓞη]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan] 
| haha
| Why are the options combined--it would make more sense to have Release + Opensource as 2 items
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:19]
| 07:16 
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden] 
| I once worked for a 12 person company, 5 of whom were named Dave....
| would someone do a comparison of Release vs RelWithDebInfo of installability, installer size, and build-from-clean time using Express?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:19]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"| 
| anyway....
| yes, it would make sense, but autobuild does not support that (yet)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:19]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan] 
| lol
| I would do that test if I had an xml file with the Release settings
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:19]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup] 
| yay
| to me with pro the build times seem aboput the same for me
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:19]
| 07:17 
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan] 
| Wolf Linden is part of snowstorm
| I guess I could just substitute Release for Rel with Dbg
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:19]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα レƔⓞη]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden] 
| lol
| yes, I believe that would do it, Jonathan
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:20]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan] 
| once open-1 and open-4 have at least reasonable workarounds, we'll merge autobuild
| ok, my cpu will be burning hot today
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:20]
| 07:18 
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tonya.souther Tonya Souther]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup] 
| ''knows a David Trout who solved that problem: he goes by "Fish".''
| yes CPU capacity dose make a difference in build times
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:20]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden] 
| Next major item
| please do that test and let us know the results. Unless there is a substantial cost to leave in the debug info, I'd prefer to use that so that we have one target that's usable for either purpose
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:21]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"| 
| Cummere did a pass through VWR and came up with a whole bunch of build-related issues as candidates to be moved to OPEN
| as long as both builds are done on the same system, I'm prepared to believe the test will be valid
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:21]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| round of applause for Cummere....
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:21]
| 07:19 
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/kitty.barnett Kitty Barnett]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan] 
| yay!
| oh wait, I cannot test, there is the issue of the.h files
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:21]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup] 
| Hoooo!
| the thing is when you build a release with debut the viewer is set to auto start the debug loging consol window
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:22]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden] 
| So... we're going to zoom through the list and decide if we still care about each issue, and if so how much and move to OPEN if it's enough
| That issue being that the build only works when you run it from within the IDE, and not when you run the 'autobuild build' command?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:22]
| 07:20 
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup] 
| we moved some from SNOW too (still with Cummere's help)
| which is the same information that is in the secondlife.log file
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:22]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan] 
| otherwise, we'll just close 'em and forget 'em
| I have not tried the combination of autobuild configure + ide compile -- autobuild build fails with missing .h files
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:22]
|  
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup] 
| im not very confident about this list ><
| im talking about outside the ide when you do an relwithdebinfo build
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:22]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| that's ok... it's having a list that's useful
| ''sigh''
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:22]
| 07:21&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
| first vwr-3621
| ok.... let's back up
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:22]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'':
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/twisted.laws Twisted Laws]&nbsp;
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3621
| i notice the build directory is in a different directory with autobuild
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3621 VWR-3621] Parser Stack Depth Exceeded needs its own error message.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:23]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
| case in point
| brb
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:23]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| If I'm not mistaken this is an LSL issue?
| I want to know if the autobuild configuration works
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:23]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
| LSL compile is server side now
| Yes on Express
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|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:23]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
| right, not an OPEN issue then
| works here
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:23]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| nor VWR
| I really really really do not care about any other way of doing it
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:24]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/twisted.laws Twisted Laws]&nbsp;
| which project should that be moved to?
| it fails 2 tests for me
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:24]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| sorry i have a hard time telling the differance between building and scripting sometimes
| I really really really do not want to talk now about any other way of doing it
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:24]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]:
| hence part of why im very not sure of the list
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|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:24]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/twisted.laws Twisted Laws]&nbsp;
| SVC, I guess - that will get it on their triage
| they were in one of the emails...
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:24]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
| SVC i would say
| Twisted, the configuration fails?
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|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:24]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/twisted.laws Twisted Laws]&nbsp;
| no problem
| i don't have that issue when i use cmake .
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:24]
| 07:22&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
| either way it'll be out of our bucket
| no the compile fails 2 tests
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:24]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| ''volunteer to do the JIRA move''
| Twisted -- please stop confusing the issue
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:24]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
| go
| Please don't make Oz crazy--let's stick with just autobuild
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:24]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
| vwr-9557
| so all agree autobuild configure works?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:24]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'':
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-9557
| Twisted i think your problem is that your useing the cgwin console and not the windows cmd window
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-9557 VWR-9557] a standalone build fails on Fedora with NVIDIA graphics driver: 'glActiveTextureARB' was not declared in this scope
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|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:25]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/twisted.laws Twisted Laws]&nbsp;
| i was told this is a lib issue
| when i autobuild configure, it builds in a different directory and the compile with the ide fails 2 tests
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:25]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| but there seems to be a patch...
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:26]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| this overlaps with the headers issue we were discussing earlier, Merov
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:26]
| 07:23&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
| glh_linear?
| when i configure with cmake ., the tests pass
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:26]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| I'd say move it to OPEN, change to Open status
| In fact, the configure step is essentially optional I think.... if you run the build command on a configuration you have not yet run the configure step for, it runs that step for you automatically
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:26]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| right
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:27]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
| the gl.h headers are distro supplied and if you use the nvidia supplied GL header you get the above build bug
| back
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:27]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| there's a related gl issue
| Twisted.... last warning... if you continue I'm going to get annoyed
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:27]
| 07:24&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
| ah, so a different issue form the glh_linear one
| then it basicaly runs develop.py with a different target dir then
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:27]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| *from
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:28]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| ''digs for the JIRA''
| If there is a problem on some systems or configurations with just running 'autobuild build -c VCexpressRelWithDebInfo' , then I want to know what they are.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:28]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
| maybe we need to make our package that installs the nvidia headers detect if the system already has better ones?
| ''is so lost anyways so running afk while she changes''
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:28]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
| i though the GL headers came with the GLX you had installed? you don't just ship them around
| or at least some thing similar
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:28]
| 07:25&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
| OPEN-14
| Oz, did you see those emails about the 2 .h files?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:28]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'':
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-14
| Please add comments to OPEN-1 about those issues if there are any
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-14 OPEN-14] we really need to decide how to handle glh/glh_linear.h for standalone cases
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:29]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]:
| glh_linear is different
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:29]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]:
| thats a standalone file that has no home anywhere
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:29]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
| bring this one in and let's move on
| Next issue...
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:30]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]:
| ''moves VWR-9557 to OPEN''
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:30]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
| vwr-13793
| OPEN-4
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:30]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'':
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-13793
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-4
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-13793 VWR-13793] Full support for Linux 64-bit
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-4 OPEN-4] As an Open Source Developer, I would like to use Fmod in the autobuild system if i have the needed files already
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:30]
| 07:26&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα レƔⓞη]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| our users have been screaming for this one ^
| I'm going to meet later today with some Lindens and try to work out a solution to this that's good enough....
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|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:30]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
| ya
| there is a posible solution also listed in open-6
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:30]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
| well, this isn't going to happen soon, I'm sorry to say
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-6
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-6 OPEN-6] Add support to autobuild for local archives as dependencies and as targets
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:30]
| 07:27&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tonya.souther Tonya Souther]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| keep it on the radar?
| it's possible that will initially just be documentation on how to manually put the fmod distribution in the right place, but we'll see if we can do better than that
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:30]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα レƔⓞη]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
| that's what I keep saying to them lol
| i added it there last nigh
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:30]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| I'm ok with importing it, and with taking patches to make it happen from the community though
| Right - that's part of what open-6 is about
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:31]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
| 64bit support for all OSs at some point tin eh future would be nice
| as it would cover all 3p libs
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:31]
| 07:28&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| ''shrugs...''
| I don't think that I understood your suggestion, Wolfpup, but I'll give it another read later
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:31]
| 07:29&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
| yes... would be nice....
| What did you think of my idea to have an environment vairable point to those fmod files?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:31]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
| I was told to make a list thats what i did... i wasnt told to weed out pipedreams :P
| is the FMOD issue the same as before autobuild (i.e. non-public download location)?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:31]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tonya.souther Tonya Souther]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
| I'm happy to let the Linux folks find the 64-bitness issues before I tackle OS X.
| basicaly opensource the autobuild 'wrabper for fmod' and then let the OS devs that use it load the source files into it
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:31]
| 07:30&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| but i agree theres more pressing things to work on at this time
| An important part of what autobuild is about is reducing the need for so many command line options
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:31]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| there are really only ever 3 priorities: 1) what I'm doing now, 2) what I'll do next, 3) what I probably won't get to
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:32]
| 07:31&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
| 32 bit mostly works okay on 64 bit os...
| I do think that it might be interesting to be able to locally override autobuild package settings from the file either from the command line or from the environment, but specifying them would be complex
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:32]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
| 64 bit is not that broken, many of us have been doing linux 64 bit builds for years so the code itsself is in generaly ok shape for that
| and i was sugesting to make a folder in the autobuild sustem that would stor all 3p libs/includes and have a sincle file that autobuild would monitor for seeing if it needed to load files from the local folder or fetch them from online
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:32]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| One of the problems is that 32bit viewer can't use 64bit GStreamer.
| for now, I think that the ability to have a modified configuration file might be enough, and I have the change for that done (open-7)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:32]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
| ok vwr-19643
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-7
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-7 OPEN-7] autobuild: add selection of the config-file using an environment variable
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:32]
| 07:32&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'':
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-19643
| many command line options? The only ones of which there are plenty are the -D... stuff, but I don't see how autobuild would reduce those.
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-19643 VWR-19643] linux libndofdev incompatible to kernel >=2.6.33 (was: spacenavigator does not wok under x.org 1.8.0, udev and fedora 13)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:32]
| 07:33&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| ''ducks''
| used correctly, autobuild should eliminate the need for the -D options
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:32]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
| there was a patch for libndofdev for new kernels
| Oz, for Express I had to go through a convoluted process to set up to use the 3 msvc80* files, and that requires either an env variable or dropping them into the build tree
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:32]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| this has been on my plate forever... mea culpa
| because they'll all be in the autobuild configuration
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:32]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα レƔⓞη]:
| lol
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:33]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
| I need to repackage and build the new version...
| please document that in open-1, jonathan
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:33]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| just keeps not makeing it to #1
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:33]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| please import it, Merov
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:33]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| leave it assigned to me
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:33]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| vwr-20466
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:33]
| 07:34&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'':
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-20466
| ok, it's in the how-to-build wiki
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-20466 VWR-20466] viewer-external uuid.lib: debugging information corrupt
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:33]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| don't put this issue on some stack the, ... better a FIFO
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:33]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| *then
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:34]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
| ''moves VWR-19643 to OPEN''
| but I will make it clearer
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:34]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jayr.cela JayR Cela]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| my opinion / SL / QuickTime / Linux / do not play well together - PERIOD !!!!!! / is a waste of time
| we'll move it to a wiki page as soon as we believe we've got a stable solution
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:34]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
| uuid.lib corrupt is caused my mixing your SDKs up
| right now if you try to use -DFMOD=TRUE it will also set -DPRIVATEBUILD=TRUE and OS devs do not need that
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:34]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| QuickTime isn't used on Linux, JayR
| I don't want the wiki docs on how to build the viewer modified for autobuild yet, please
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:35]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]:
| i suspect its a win 7 user on VC2005 using SDK 7.x
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:35]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
| the reporter was you, Robin...
| please file an issue on that, Wolfpup
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:36]
| 07:35&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
| forgot i filed that one
| get it working consistantly first, then document?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:36]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
| Can we just close this on the assumption that it either : was and incorrect setup, or: will be fixed by 2010 move?
| Clarification--I will make the steps clearer in open-1
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:36]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jayr.cela JayR Cela]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| @(br/ no quicktime does work with linux - watch Hulu.com on a regular basis / Quicktime and SL media webkit does not
| exactly, Cummere
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:36]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
| its a build tool chain set up issue, so close please
| i think the OS autobuild wiki for the viewer should be its own page
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:36]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
| thank you
| +1 wolfpup
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:37]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jayr.cela JayR Cela]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| oops sorry my mistake Hulu uses flash
| What I want to do is set up the viewer build documentation this way:
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:37]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
| I mean, the Linux viewer doesn't use QuickTime to view mediea streams.
| like there are ones for linux, mac, and windows
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:37]
| 07:37&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| no wonder these issues are all very familar
| 1 page that has: links to platoform-specific environment setup pages, a section on how to download the viewer repo, a section (very short) on how to run the autobuild command, and a section with platform-specific links on how to run your test viewer
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:37]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| It uses GSTreamer instead.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:37]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
| vwr-20994
| ''.has to step away for a moment.... home interrupt''
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:37]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'':
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-20994
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-20994 VWR-20994] Add a 'printbuilddirs' command to develop.py
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:37]
| 07:39&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
| I believe that autobuild essentially already has this, and it replaces develop.py
| I'm back
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:38]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
| hmm robin i think for the next round im just gonna look for issues created by you >.>
| wb
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:38]
| 07:40&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jayr.cela JayR Cela]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| well Quicktime is as old as dirt / time to dump it / HTML5 should be seriously looked at
| (had to help w/ the garage door ... melting snow keeps popping the GFI breaker that the garage door is on)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:38]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
| doesnt webkit already support html5?
| it is ok
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:38]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
| or partially at least
| GFI breakers are a good thing they help pervent fire and getting shicked
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:38]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
| focus, people....
| what did I miss? my laptop decided to spontaneously shut down due to hot CPU :-\
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:39]
| 07:41&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/eddi.decosta Eddi Decosta]&nbsp;
| ''sorry''
| hi there:)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:39]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
| I'd say close 20994
| hey eddi
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:39]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
| +1
| sounds like you have a wire short somewhere then oz
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:39]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| won't finish because we're moving to autobuild
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:39]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| vwr-23304
| so... I'd _really_ like to get the autobuild branch merged this week, so please do the tests and document where we are in open-1
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:39]
| 07:42&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'':
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23304
| has anyone tested it on Linux 64bit, yet, or is that up to me?
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23304 VWR-23304] Allow choosing between system headers/libraries and LL supplied ones per package
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:40]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
| should go to OPEN
| well for VS Pro open-1 good to go
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:40]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| but I think it may be the same as open-6
| no, there is an outdoor outlet that the ice gets into... which is what GFI breakers are for....
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:40]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'':
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-6
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-6 OPEN-6] Add support to autobuild for local archives as dependencies and as targets
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:40]
| 07:43&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
| so move it, but link it to that one as related?
| not that I know of, Boroondas
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:41]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
| let me read OPEN-6
| ah. dont have a snow cover for it oz?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:41]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| we can take a deeper look when we actually do them
| I don't know if enough of the dependencies are available yet to do that, but by all means try standalone
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:41]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
| resolve as dupe rather, no?
| Broondas test it in non-standalone and stanalon if you can
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:41]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| maybe
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:42]
| 07:44&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
| I don't quite understand what OPEN-6 is asking for, so I can't tell whether it's the same
| Oz those outdoors outlets might have bad seal and need to be replaced
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:42]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| one thing I don't want to do is proliferate command line switches more than we really need
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:42]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| it's a little silly
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:43]
| 07:45&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| the package/dependency mechanism only supports getting files remotely
| Cummere... I wanted to go back to your list, but I don't see the email
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:43]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| it supports http and scp urls, but not file urls
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:43]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
| ah
| let me try resending
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:43]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
| almost certainly a really easy fix if anyone wants to flex some python muscles
| What is the command to use autobuild with standalone?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:43]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| but how would I choose how to fulfil a dependency?
| I've replaced the seals.... it only happens a couple of times a year...
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:44]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| link them and let's move on
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:44]
| 07:46&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
| ok
| there are standalone configurations in the config file
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:44]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]:
| ''does the move and link''
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:44]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
| you change your autobuild.xml file (or copy it to a temp and use that so that you don't accidentally check it in)
| (I think)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:44]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
| vwr-23465
| OpenSourceStandalone...
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:44]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'':
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23465
| yes there are
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23465 VWR-23465] !standalone build error due to missing libfreetype.so. libpangoft2-1.0.so: undefined reference to `FT_Realloc'
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:45]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
| Gentoo specific?
| resent
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:45]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
| yes
| OpenSourceStandAlone is how they start
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:46]
| 07:47&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/eddi.decosta Eddi Decosta]&nbsp;
| anyone know if it's still a problem?
| hi tech
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:46]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| or rather, doesn't occur on debian-like systems
| Let's make going over that list our agenda for the Wednesday meeting (hopefully by then the autobuild stuff will be merged)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:46]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| dunno if Gentoo is the only affected one
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:46]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tonya.souther Tonya Souther]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
| Techwolf might, Oz, dunno anyone else. But all the world is not Ubuntu, or even Debian.
| merged to viewer-dev?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:46]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
| right....
| ''< will miss the wensday meeting as he will be @ RL work''
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:46]
| 07:48&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| gentoo might use different compile flags for freetype?
| yes, that's what I meant, Boroondas
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:47]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| import it and assign back to techwolf ... the sources for those builds should soon be in public repos if they are not already
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:47]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| he can work out the upgrade/fix
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:47]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| and then we'll take it in
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:48]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
| dunno if it's that easy
| Any non-autobuild issues today?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:48]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
| VWR-23706
| well im not even sure how much of that is build tools and how much i confused with it.. so thats why i sent it to you now before i went any further
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:48]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'':
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23706
| Broondas Oz has a merged repos that is the current viewer-development + autobuild
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23706 VWR-23706] current snowstorm building script terminated due to "collect2: ld terminated with signal 9 [Killed] "
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:49]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
| can anyone tell what this is?
| what's the status of VWR-24487? Any ETA on the decision on that?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:49]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tonya.souther Tonya Souther]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
| Looks like a hang that he sent a kill to.
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24487
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24487 VWR-24487] llurlentry_stub.cpp:196: error: deprecated conversion from string constant to 'char*'
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:49]
| 07:49&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα レƔⓞη]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| never seen that error
| no decision yet, but....
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:49]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tonya.souther Tonya Souther]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
| Be nice if he'd actually included some description.
| (If it'll take long, we should probably use the quick-and-dirty cast-to-non-const fix in the meantime)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:49]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| close it
| Team Chopper is in the process of converting all our sources to be VS2010 compatible, and...
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:49]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
| not reproducible
| in the process we're getting a lot of things cleaned up
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:50]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| -DSERVER:BOOL=OFF ... wtf?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:50]
| 07:50&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
| VWR-23826
| the problem I have with changing the file in the viewer tree is that it's supposed to be generated from the template, the _real_ version of which is in the simulator sources
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:50]
| 07:51&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'':
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23826
| yeah
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23826 VWR-23826] LLDir integration test fails with "failed to write to test file '/tmp/getNextFileInDir02//file1.abc'"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:51]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| I think you guys fixed that one at some point.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:51]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| that test has been cleaned up....
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:51]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| would you take that one and either repro on current builds or close it, please, B?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:51]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]:
| I think so, resolved as "Fixed"?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:51]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| I think so
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:51]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| ok... let's do that then
| so what I want to get done is apply the fix to the template processing in the sim tree, and check in the fixed result in the viewer tree
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:52]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
| VWR-23961
| hoping to do that during the VS2010 cleanup
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:52]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'':
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23961
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23961 VWR-23961] Add fmodex in FindFMOD cmake module
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:52]
| 07:52&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
| i think i still have a failing test, could be this one, i'll reopen if it is so
| which we hope will be finished in the next 2-3 weeks - that is in no way a promise
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:52]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
| Another FMOD one...
| one thing for shure there will need to be some adjustments needed for VS2010
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:52]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
| yea merge/dup as its all the same work required to solve anyway
| though, probably instead of keeping that header in sync, we should keep the message template in sync and generate the header as part of the viewer build? as it is now, the message template and the header can be (and are currently) out of sync in the viewer source tree.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:53]
| 07:53&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| move it and link to open-4
| actually, what I'd like to do is remove the template from the viewer tree completely
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:53]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'':
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-4
| VS2010 dose not have an options to add specific default include, exe, and lib folders
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-4 OPEN-4] As an Open Source Developer, I would like to use Fmod in the autobuild system if i have the needed files already
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:53]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| ''does that''
| and just put a comment in the generated file that documents that it comes from the sim tree build
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:53]
| 07:54&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
| VWR-24366
| isn't the template also used for ensureing protocol compatibility outside of these headers?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:54]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
| that's already in STORM ?
| hey oz I have a question for you though im not sure if youre able/allowed to answer it
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:54]
| 07:55&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| that got moved
| I don't know what other hurdles we'll face with the VS2010 conversion... the current semi-plan is to get a lot of Lindens in a room and have a hackaton to do most of it in one go...
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:54]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
| between when i wrote the list and now
| I don't know, Boroondas... need to investigate more deeply
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:54]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
| ok... leave it
| ok ...
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:54]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| STORM-981
| ask away, Cummere
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:54]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'':
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/STORM-981
| ''would not being in on that hackathing''
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/STORM-981 STORM-981] CMAKE_EXE_LINKER_FLAGS not honored when linking the viewer binary if -DLL_TESTS:BOOL=ON
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:54]
| 07:56&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
| VWR-24375
| why is it that LL is refusing to crack down on devices like the one in VWR-24746 that rip ip and or mac addresses and make publically availible lists of "alts"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:54]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'':
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24375
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24746
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24375 VWR-24375] link phase secondlife-bin fails; supplied LL-lib libuuid.so.1 needs to be removed.
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24746 VWR-24746] Ban ZFRedzone
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:56]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
| not clear to me what the problem or the fix is....
| Until the real issue gets tickled, can we take in the quick fix of casting the literal to non-const? It'd be nice to be able to build without having to modify the repo.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:56]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| already has a dup in OPEN ?
| I'm going to investigate incorporating open devs into the hackathon... when I know more about when & how it will happen, I'll let you know
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:56]
| 07:57&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
| OPEN-16
| Sorry, Cummere... you're right... not something I can discuss except to say that it's a complicated issue that does get discussed within LL from time to time
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:56]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'':
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-16
| < would hope it is on his day off from his RL job
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-16 OPEN-16] link phase secondlife-bin fails; supplied LL-lib libuuid.so.1 needs to be upgraded
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:56]
| 07:58&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
| good catch...close as dup then
| can you please point the right people to that jira?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:57]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| Ah, that's one of those we moved from SNOW
| I'll discuss the template/const issue with Q and get back to you
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:57]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
| VWR-24410
| I hope Robin C can be part of that hackathon
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:57]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'':
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24410
| Hackatron might be difficult for community devs, due to timezone etc.. But be sure to check jira and mailing list for existing fixes.
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24410 VWR-24410] settings.xml not always updated during incremental builds, causing "WARNING: get: Control UpdaterMaximumBandwidth not found." and crash
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:57]
| 07:59&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| is this kinda thing an open issue or not? so i know for future ref
| Yes, one of the things I have to do between now and whenever it is is to collect existing fixes....
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:58]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| yeah
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:58]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| yes
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:58]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| probably a missing dependency declaration
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:58]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| smells related to the settings problem Jonathan is having .... move it
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:58]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]:
| kay i wanst sure
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:58]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
| it's only related by name
| will probably ask for help on that
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:59]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
| VWR-24484
| im doing my best on that. :-/
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [13:59]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'':
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24484
| Dealing with the various incarnations the msvc* files is a real pain
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24484 VWR-24484] libmedia_plugin_webkit.so doesn't find libqgif.so on standalone, all web features defunct
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|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [13:59]
| 08:00&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
| standalone-specific, so OPEN, I'd say
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [14:00]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'':
| Your timer has expired!
| Your timer has expired!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [14:00]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| (might also be Gentoo specific)
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|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [14:00]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
| no its not, its general standalone issue
| That is Robin's area of expertise
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|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [14:00]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| I guess, but there's so much custom stuff in this I don't know what we'll do with it....
| I'll put participation in the hackathon on our next meeting agenda too
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| [14:00]
| 08:01&nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
| its related to how you build llqtwebkit
| i wish i knew of an easy way other then commenting (which still gets lost) to tag a jira with soemthing bright and noticable that says the fix is there
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|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [14:00]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
| well i hope that list was good? ill try and get another done in the next week
| ''will be happy when open 4,6, and 9 are in the autobuild system''
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|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [14:00]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
| -rpath is your friend
| Ok folks... our time is up today... I've got some other things to attend to, and you've got autobuild tests to run....
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|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [14:00]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
| VWR-24594
| End transcription
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|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [14:00]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'':
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24594
| oz, see my last comment on open-1
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24594 VWR-24594] Problems with develop.py and vstool when trying to setup new development environment with Visual Studio 2010
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|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [14:00]
| &nbsp;
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
| move to OPEN (without looking)
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-1
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-1 OPEN-1] autobuild does not support use with Visual Studio Express
| [14:01]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tonya.souther Tonya Souther]:
| the rest are VS 2010 too.
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| [14:01]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]:
| why not close it? itsll be bypased with autobuild
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| [14:01]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]:
| right?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [14:02]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| 24594 we should close, I think
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [14:02]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]:
| ''just moved it''
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [14:02]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| the next two move,
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [14:02]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| that's ok
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [14:03]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| ew, cascaded titles in description
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [14:03]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| the rest, move and we'll sort them out in the 2010 process
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| [14:03]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]:
| did i do okay with that list oz?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [14:04]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| I'm going to leave item 4 from the agenda on for next time: Other Autobuild Issues Triage:
* OPEN-11 Change STANDALONE to something less confusing
* OPEN-17 Upgrade builds to use OpenJPEG 1.4 (and create autobuild configuration for the lib)
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| [14:04]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'':
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-11
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-11 OPEN-11] Change STANDALONE to something better.
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| [14:04]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'':
| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-17
[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-17 OPEN-17] 64bit standalone build clients do not correctly upload textures with alpha
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [14:04]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| Outstanding, Cummere
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| [14:04]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]:
| k ill take another pass through when i can find time then
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [14:04]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| there was only one there that didn't belong, and it didn't belong in VWR either!!
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| [14:04]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]:
| weve been using openjpeg 1.4 w/o much issue in FS and phoenix
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [14:05]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| Thank you everyone, and especially Merov for volunteering to do the Jira mechanics!
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| [14:05]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]:
| yes thats an old buggy openjpeg issue that i fixed
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [14:05]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]:
| OPEN-17 close it with use a recent openjpeg
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [14:05]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]:
| oh oz before i go... I sent the ca directly to you, so it may need forwarded... asumming its acceptable as is?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [14:06]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]:
| thx Os and Mervo for taking your time with us
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [14:06]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| I'm going to get an autobuild-ized openjpeg repo up soon (unless someone else wants to do it?)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [14:06]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| I'll get it Cummere.... and can forward just fine... thank you
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [14:06]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]:
| Oz*
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [14:06]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]:
| just don't use the 1.3 tarball as a base
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [14:06]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| no, we'll get the new one
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [14:06]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]:
| thats svn only i think
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [14:06]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]:
| or git
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [14:07]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| autobuild can pull from svn
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [14:07]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| git?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [14:07]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| adding support for git should be easy if we have to do that
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [14:07]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]:
| ah, the upstream repo
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [14:07]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]:
| ah sorry thats the debian repro not offical openjpeg
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [14:07]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]:
| Maybe our Phoenix friends can help us get that set up?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [14:08]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb'':
| End transcription
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [14:08]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tonya.souther Tonya Souther]:
| We can probably wrangle that, I think.
|}
|}

Revision as of 20:42, 10 February 2011

07:00  বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  Hi Oz
  Oz Linden  hi all!
  Twisted Laws  Hi
  Office Orb  mail_to set to oz@lindenlab.com
    Start transcription to oz@lindenlab.com
    Transcript will be sent to: oz@lindenlab.com
  Cummere Mayo  hey oz!
    hopes oz isnt a stealers fan >.>
07:01  Oz Linden  no, Patriots & Redskins - I was rooting for Green Bay
07:02  Wolfpup  i saw the end of the game when i got home from RL work as roommate had the game on
  Oz Linden  it was a very good game
  Cummere Mayo  that was one serious game, however shall we get on topic?
  Oz Linden  I was actually coding during it :-)
  Cummere Mayo  oz i sent you a list of what i think are mostly build tools / lib related jiras
  Oz Linden  So... I am in the middle of reorganizing my agenda page for this meeting. so I don't have a link
07:03  বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Oz_Linden/Office_Hours_Topics
  Wolfpup  i tested the new auto build reop you did Oz and it still works fin for those with VS pro
    at least for me
  Jonathan  It is failing for Express though, those missing .h files
  Oz Linden  ah... good... let's go over that here today, but I'd like to go over the autobuild issues first
07:04  বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  ok
  Twisted Laws  as long as autobuild configure works and i can compile with the IDE i'm fine
  বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  didn't get to try autobuild, yet
  Wolfpup  i was having issues with the missing h files till i made an adjustnemt to the ide
  Jonathan  Wolfpup, that is not a long-term solution I think
  Cummere Mayo  is there a jira about the h files somewhere?
  Twisted Laws  what'd u change in the ide, wolfpup?
  Jonathan  It was mentioned on the mailing list cummere
07:05  Oz Linden  no, it's not a long term solution, but it may be enough to do the merge
  Wolfpup  twisted add extra folders ti the includes and libs f under optiond
  Oz Linden  first things first... I did a pass over the exisiting wiki docs on Autobuild this morning
07:06    I'd appreciate review/commentary/suggestions/fixes for all the pages linked from https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Autobuild
    at your lesiure, of course
  Wolfpup  Twisted look up the viewr2_microsoft wiki
  Oz Linden  We don't yet have a page specifically on building the viewer with autobuild, but I'm going to start that today
07:07    will send a note to the list when it's up
  Twisted Laws  i already had them in the includes/libs, thanks
07:09  Oz Linden  So... the status of OPEN-1
  Office Orb  http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-1

OPEN-1 autobuild does not support use with Visual Studio Express

07:10  Oz Linden  Do we believe that we have an acceptable workaround if we modify the autobuild.xml in the viewer to make a configuration specifically for Express ?
  Wolfpup  Jonathan mabey the SDK's your useing might not have the needed files
    that workaround dose look good Oz
  Jonathan  You will update that xml to have the other options, e.g. Release?
07:11  Oz Linden  I was thinking that we really don't need the others
    no one is going to build a Release viewer with Express
07:12  Jonathan  err, I do all the time
  Twisted Laws  it seems to me that something is ignoring the INCLUDE env variable
    i do all the time too
  Oz Linden  and as far as I know there isn't any real advantage to using Debug.... ?
  Wolfpup  Oz whant i do my confid i do it forthe normal configureation but then i build in release mode for the ide
  Twisted Laws  until autobuild i've always built release
  Jonathan  And I copy an existing shortcut to make a new shortcut, I really don't want to have to remember where my binary is and adjust it
07:13  Oz Linden  why? in any event, I hope to get a real fix that will let autobuild adapt to Express and use the normal configurations
  Twisted Laws  i share my builds with 2 or 3 other people and share the install that is built as well as changes
  Oz Linden  doesn't building in release mode loose symbols ?
  Jonathan  Also, before forcing WithDebug on us, it would be nice to do a timing test--1hr 15m to compile is already hard enough on me
07:14    And a link time of 6 minutes--I don't want more symbols, work done by the compiler, etc
  Wolfpup  the only way to do that would be for autobuild do like develop.py dose now and test for express
  Oz Linden  no one is forcing anything... let's not start that
  Jonathan  sorry, poor choice of words
  Twisted Laws  i've been building my own viewer for over 3 years and have never had unsurmountable issues till now :(
07:15  Oz Linden  My concern is that I dont' want to continue the combinatorial explosion of configurations
  Jonathan  I am curious about something--
  বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  make the config modular?
  Jonathan  Why are the options combined--it would make more sense to have Release + Opensource as 2 items
07:16  Oz Linden  would someone do a comparison of Release vs RelWithDebInfo of installability, installer size, and build-from-clean time using Express?
    yes, it would make sense, but autobuild does not support that (yet)
  Jonathan  I would do that test if I had an xml file with the Release settings
  Wolfpup  to me with pro the build times seem aboput the same for me
07:17  Jonathan  I guess I could just substitute Release for Rel with Dbg
  Oz Linden  yes, I believe that would do it, Jonathan
  Jonathan  ok, my cpu will be burning hot today
07:18  Wolfpup  yes CPU capacity dose make a difference in build times
  Oz Linden  please do that test and let us know the results. Unless there is a substantial cost to leave in the debug info, I'd prefer to use that so that we have one target that's usable for either purpose
    as long as both builds are done on the same system, I'm prepared to believe the test will be valid
07:19  Jonathan  oh wait, I cannot test, there is the issue of the.h files
  Wolfpup  the thing is when you build a release with debut the viewer is set to auto start the debug loging consol window
  Oz Linden  That issue being that the build only works when you run it from within the IDE, and not when you run the 'autobuild build' command?
07:20  Wolfpup  which is the same information that is in the secondlife.log file
  Jonathan  I have not tried the combination of autobuild configure + ide compile -- autobuild build fails with missing .h files
  Wolfpup  im talking about outside the ide when you do an relwithdebinfo build
  Oz Linden  sigh
07:21    ok.... let's back up
  Twisted Laws  i notice the build directory is in a different directory with autobuild
  বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  brb
  Oz Linden  I want to know if the autobuild configuration works
  Jonathan  Yes on Express
  Wolfpup  works here
  Oz Linden  I really really really do not care about any other way of doing it
  Twisted Laws  it fails 2 tests for me
  Oz Linden  I really really really do not want to talk now about any other way of doing it
  Twisted Laws  they were in one of the emails...
  Jonathan  Twisted, the configuration fails?
  Twisted Laws  i don't have that issue when i use cmake .
07:22    no the compile fails 2 tests
  Oz Linden  Twisted -- please stop confusing the issue
  Jonathan  Please don't make Oz crazy--let's stick with just autobuild
    so all agree autobuild configure works?
  Wolfpup  Twisted i think your problem is that your useing the cgwin console and not the windows cmd window
  Twisted Laws  when i autobuild configure, it builds in a different directory and the compile with the ide fails 2 tests
07:23    when i configure with cmake ., the tests pass
  Oz Linden  In fact, the configure step is essentially optional I think.... if you run the build command on a configuration you have not yet run the configure step for, it runs that step for you automatically
  বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  back
  Oz Linden  Twisted.... last warning... if you continue I'm going to get annoyed
07:24  Wolfpup  then it basicaly runs develop.py with a different target dir then
  Oz Linden  If there is a problem on some systems or configurations with just running 'autobuild build -c VCexpressRelWithDebInfo' , then I want to know what they are.
  Cummere Mayo  is so lost anyways so running afk while she changes
  Wolfpup  or at least some thing similar
07:25  Jonathan  Oz, did you see those emails about the 2 .h files?
  Oz Linden  Please add comments to OPEN-1 about those issues if there are any
    Next issue...
    OPEN-4
  Office Orb  http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-4

OPEN-4 As an Open Source Developer, I would like to use Fmod in the autobuild system if i have the needed files already

07:26  Oz Linden  I'm going to meet later today with some Lindens and try to work out a solution to this that's good enough....
  Wolfpup  there is a posible solution also listed in open-6
  Office Orb  http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-6

OPEN-6 Add support to autobuild for local archives as dependencies and as targets

07:27  Oz Linden  it's possible that will initially just be documentation on how to manually put the fmod distribution in the right place, but we'll see if we can do better than that
  Wolfpup  i added it there last nigh
  Oz Linden  Right - that's part of what open-6 is about
  Wolfpup  as it would cover all 3p libs
07:28  Oz Linden  I don't think that I understood your suggestion, Wolfpup, but I'll give it another read later
07:29  Jonathan  What did you think of my idea to have an environment vairable point to those fmod files?
  বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  is the FMOD issue the same as before autobuild (i.e. non-public download location)?
  Wolfpup  basicaly opensource the autobuild 'wrabper for fmod' and then let the OS devs that use it load the source files into it
07:30  Oz Linden  An important part of what autobuild is about is reducing the need for so many command line options
07:31    I do think that it might be interesting to be able to locally override autobuild package settings from the file either from the command line or from the environment, but specifying them would be complex
  Wolfpup  and i was sugesting to make a folder in the autobuild sustem that would stor all 3p libs/includes and have a sincle file that autobuild would monitor for seeing if it needed to load files from the local folder or fetch them from online
  Oz Linden  for now, I think that the ability to have a modified configuration file might be enough, and I have the change for that done (open-7)
  Office Orb  http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-7

OPEN-7 autobuild: add selection of the config-file using an environment variable

07:32  বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  many command line options? The only ones of which there are plenty are the -D... stuff, but I don't see how autobuild would reduce those.
07:33  Oz Linden  used correctly, autobuild should eliminate the need for the -D options
  Jonathan  Oz, for Express I had to go through a convoluted process to set up to use the 3 msvc80* files, and that requires either an env variable or dropping them into the build tree
  Oz Linden  because they'll all be in the autobuild configuration
    please document that in open-1, jonathan
07:34  Jonathan  ok, it's in the how-to-build wiki
    but I will make it clearer
  Oz Linden  we'll move it to a wiki page as soon as we believe we've got a stable solution
  Wolfpup  right now if you try to use -DFMOD=TRUE it will also set -DPRIVATEBUILD=TRUE and OS devs do not need that
  Oz Linden  I don't want the wiki docs on how to build the viewer modified for autobuild yet, please
    please file an issue on that, Wolfpup
07:35  Cummere Mayo  get it working consistantly first, then document?
  Jonathan  Clarification--I will make the steps clearer in open-1
  Oz Linden  exactly, Cummere
  Wolfpup  i think the OS autobuild wiki for the viewer should be its own page
  Cummere Mayo  +1 wolfpup
  Oz Linden  What I want to do is set up the viewer build documentation this way:
  Wolfpup  like there are ones for linux, mac, and windows
07:37  Oz Linden  1 page that has: links to platoform-specific environment setup pages, a section on how to download the viewer repo, a section (very short) on how to run the autobuild command, and a section with platform-specific links on how to run your test viewer
    .has to step away for a moment.... home interrupt
07:39    I'm back
  Wolfpup  wb
07:40  Oz Linden  (had to help w/ the garage door ... melting snow keeps popping the GFI breaker that the garage door is on)
  Wolfpup  it is ok
    GFI breakers are a good thing they help pervent fire and getting shicked
  বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  what did I miss? my laptop decided to spontaneously shut down due to hot CPU :-\
07:41  Eddi Decosta  hi there:)
  Wolfpup  hey eddi
  Cummere Mayo  sounds like you have a wire short somewhere then oz
  Oz Linden  so... I'd _really_ like to get the autobuild branch merged this week, so please do the tests and document where we are in open-1
07:42  বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  has anyone tested it on Linux 64bit, yet, or is that up to me?
  Wolfpup  well for VS Pro open-1 good to go
  Oz Linden  no, there is an outdoor outlet that the ice gets into... which is what GFI breakers are for....
07:43    not that I know of, Boroondas
  Cummere Mayo  ah. dont have a snow cover for it oz?
  Oz Linden  I don't know if enough of the dependencies are available yet to do that, but by all means try standalone
  Wolfpup  Broondas test it in non-standalone and stanalon if you can
07:44    Oz those outdoors outlets might have bad seal and need to be replaced
07:45  Oz Linden  Cummere... I wanted to go back to your list, but I don't see the email
  Cummere Mayo  let me try resending
  বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  What is the command to use autobuild with standalone?
  Oz Linden  I've replaced the seals.... it only happens a couple of times a year...
07:46    there are standalone configurations in the config file
    (I think)
    OpenSourceStandalone...
  Wolfpup  yes there are
  Cummere Mayo  resent
  Wolfpup  OpenSourceStandAlone is how they start
07:47  Eddi Decosta  hi tech
  Oz Linden  Let's make going over that list our agenda for the Wednesday meeting (hopefully by then the autobuild stuff will be merged)
  বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  merged to viewer-dev?
  Wolfpup  < will miss the wensday meeting as he will be @ RL work
07:48  Oz Linden  yes, that's what I meant, Boroondas
    Any non-autobuild issues today?
  Cummere Mayo  well im not even sure how much of that is build tools and how much i confused with it.. so thats why i sent it to you now before i went any further
  Wolfpup  Broondas Oz has a merged repos that is the current viewer-development + autobuild
  বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  what's the status of VWR-24487? Any ETA on the decision on that?
  Office Orb  http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24487

VWR-24487 llurlentry_stub.cpp:196: error: deprecated conversion from string constant to 'char*'

07:49  Oz Linden  no decision yet, but....
  বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  (If it'll take long, we should probably use the quick-and-dirty cast-to-non-const fix in the meantime)
  Oz Linden  Team Chopper is in the process of converting all our sources to be VS2010 compatible, and...
    in the process we're getting a lot of things cleaned up
07:50    the problem I have with changing the file in the viewer tree is that it's supposed to be generated from the template, the _real_ version of which is in the simulator sources
07:51  বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  yeah
  Oz Linden  so what I want to get done is apply the fix to the template processing in the sim tree, and check in the fixed result in the viewer tree
    hoping to do that during the VS2010 cleanup
07:52    which we hope will be finished in the next 2-3 weeks - that is in no way a promise
  Wolfpup  one thing for shure there will need to be some adjustments needed for VS2010
  বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  though, probably instead of keeping that header in sync, we should keep the message template in sync and generate the header as part of the viewer build? as it is now, the message template and the header can be (and are currently) out of sync in the viewer source tree.
07:53  Oz Linden  actually, what I'd like to do is remove the template from the viewer tree completely
  Wolfpup  VS2010 dose not have an options to add specific default include, exe, and lib folders
  Oz Linden  and just put a comment in the generated file that documents that it comes from the sim tree build
07:54  বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  isn't the template also used for ensureing protocol compatibility outside of these headers?
  Cummere Mayo  hey oz I have a question for you though im not sure if youre able/allowed to answer it
07:55  Oz Linden  I don't know what other hurdles we'll face with the VS2010 conversion... the current semi-plan is to get a lot of Lindens in a room and have a hackaton to do most of it in one go...
    I don't know, Boroondas... need to investigate more deeply
  বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  ok ...
  Oz Linden  ask away, Cummere
  Wolfpup  would not being in on that hackathing
07:56  Cummere Mayo  why is it that LL is refusing to crack down on devices like the one in VWR-24746 that rip ip and or mac addresses and make publically availible lists of "alts"
  Office Orb  http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24746

VWR-24746 Ban ZFRedzone

  বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  Until the real issue gets tickled, can we take in the quick fix of casting the literal to non-const? It'd be nice to be able to build without having to modify the repo.
  Oz Linden  I'm going to investigate incorporating open devs into the hackathon... when I know more about when & how it will happen, I'll let you know
07:57    Sorry, Cummere... you're right... not something I can discuss except to say that it's a complicated issue that does get discussed within LL from time to time
  Wolfpup  < would hope it is on his day off from his RL job
07:58  Cummere Mayo  can you please point the right people to that jira?
  Oz Linden  I'll discuss the template/const issue with Q and get back to you
  Jonathan  I hope Robin C can be part of that hackathon
  বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে  Hackatron might be difficult for community devs, due to timezone etc.. But be sure to check jira and mailing list for existing fixes.
07:59  Oz Linden  Yes, one of the things I have to do between now and whenever it is is to collect existing fixes....
    will probably ask for help on that
  Cummere Mayo  im doing my best on that. :-/
  Jonathan  Dealing with the various incarnations the msvc* files is a real pain
08:00  Office Orb  Your timer has expired!
  Jonathan  That is Robin's area of expertise
  Oz Linden  I'll put participation in the hackathon on our next meeting agenda too
08:01  Cummere Mayo  i wish i knew of an easy way other then commenting (which still gets lost) to tag a jira with soemthing bright and noticable that says the fix is there
  Wolfpup  will be happy when open 4,6, and 9 are in the autobuild system
  Oz Linden  Ok folks... our time is up today... I've got some other things to attend to, and you've got autobuild tests to run....
  Office Orb  End transcription
  Jonathan  oz, see my last comment on open-1
  Office Orb  http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-1

OPEN-1 autobuild does not support use with Visual Studio Express