Difference between revisions of "Open Development User Group/Archive/2011-02-09"

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13:02	Office Orb	mail_to set to oz@lindenlab.com
		Start transcription to oz@lindenlab.com
		Transcript will be sent to: oz@lindenlab.com
	Jonathan	oz, you are rotating it with 1 script?
		or did you use 2 prims?
	Oz Linden	1 script in an invisible root at the center
		it's actually 16 linked prims
13:03	Jonathan	I would be curious to see that 1 script rotation code for 2 axis
		ok, meeting time
	Oz Linden	it's full perm... have a look
		Our agenda is quite full:
		https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Open_Development_User_Group#Agenda
13:04		VWR-24487
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24487 VWR-24487 llurlentry_stub.cpp:196: error: deprecated conversion from string constant to 'char*'
	Oz Linden	I meant to talk w/ Q about this before the meeting, but that fell through the cracks
		We will get a fix for this done pretty soon one way or another
	Cummere Mayo	dont mind me im snapshotting my ui so i can show something to fredrik..
13:05	Oz Linden	we're currently planning our hackathon for getting everything converted to VS 2010, which will want this
		it's tentatively scheduled for the end of next week, I believe
	Jonathan	Are we invited?
	Oz Linden	I will be asking around to see if we can figure out how open devs can contribute
13:06		if nothing else, the repos for all the open stuff we'll be working on will be in public
		so you'll be able to see and test what we're doing
		I"ll try to do better than that, though.
		stay tuned
13:07		If it's really bothering people, we could commit the temporary fix we have now, but I am going to want to replace it
		I'll leave that item on our agenda for next time too
13:08		next..... OPEN-1 - perhaps Jonathan can give us his view of the status of that
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-1 OPEN-1 autobuild does not support use with Visual Studio Express
	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks	so will this mean going forward everyone will need to sue VS 2010?
		use*
	Oz Linden	yes, tank
	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks	ok thx
	JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη	starting with 2.6 right?
13:09	Oz Linden	right
	JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη	kk
	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks	so libs wont be affected?
	Oz Linden	well, all of you that work on windows :-)
	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks	well yeah :P
	Oz Linden	all libs too
		not a small job
	JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη	ouch
13:10		so as soon as you have the libs changed, we'll need to be using 2010 on any revision?
	Oz Linden	Jonathan ... where do we stand w/ VS Express ?
	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks	will the old libs be in place for a while to give people time to transision over?
	Oz Linden	the old downloads will still be there for old versions
	Jonathan	My version runs, with that hack of moving the build directory
	JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη	oh good ok
	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks	ok thatll work then, thx
	Jonathan	I would like to hear from other people about how theirs runs
13:11		WOlfpup and Nickyp
	Oz Linden	so the problem there is that the fact that indra is no longer in the tree above the executable means that it can't find its settings file, right?
	Jonathan	yes
		not the saved settings, but the initial ones
	Oz Linden	I assume that the Pro users don't have this and can run the exe where it is built?
13:12	Jonathan	I know wolfpup uses pro, dunno about Nickyp
	Oz Linden	no takers...
		ok, well, we'll want to sort that out, but I suspect that it'll be pretty easy
	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks	hasnt used 2010 yet, so doesnt know how its different
	Jonathan	why the compiler would make a difference is a mystery
13:13		Tank, this is about autobuild
	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks	ahh ok
	Oz Linden	it may be that some command is not conditionalized correctly when setting up those files
	Robin Cornelius	maybe but as we don't have the build inside indra/ anymore having code in the viewer that tests for that is asking for bugs
	Jonathan	Robin, can you autobuild on Express as another test case?
	Oz Linden	yes, clearly we'll want to change that
	Robin Cornelius	i've only got express in 2005/2010 versions
13:14	Oz Linden	05 for now, please
	Robin Cornelius	and yes i can run some other tests
	Oz Linden	thanks
	Jonathan	Oz, did you update the source with the /u (?) xml fix
	Oz Linden	not yet, but I'll do that after this meeting
		next issue is OPEN-4
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-4 OPEN-4 As an Open Source Developer, I would like to use Fmod in the autobuild system if i have the needed files already
13:15	Oz Linden	the trick here is that we need at least new instructions on where to put the fmod files under the build tree
	Jonathan	that is just small change, right?
13:16	Oz Linden	ideally, I'd like to go one better and do an autobuild re-package project so that you can check that out, build it, and you'll have a local archive that your viewer build can use
	Robin Cornelius	at one point (snowglobe 1.x) we had an optinon were we could pass a var with FMOD_SDK_DIR and it just used that to find all the bits it needed
	Merovingian	interesting, is that failing for all platforms?
13:17		FMOD logic had to be changed quite a bit to it to require being used only in private mode
		thinks he should look into that one
	Oz Linden	would _love_ your help, Merov - let's talk after this
13:18	Merovingian	is there something with having "Wolf" in your name and being unable to spell?
	JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη	I lol'd
	Merovingian	has to parse comments twice to make sense of them
	Oz Linden	we've got a lot of wolf names on this project... not sure what that tells us...
	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks	oh man, theres to meny wolves out there...
13:19	JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη	we have a lot of 'wolfs' on the phoenix project too >.>
		they're taking over
	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	I even saw a "Wolf Linden" on jira today
	JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη	haha
	Oz Linden	I once worked for a 12 person company, 5 of whom were named Dave....
		anyway....
	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks	lol
	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	yay
	Jonathan	Wolf Linden is part of snowstorm
	JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη	lol
13:20	Oz Linden	once open-1 and open-4 have at least reasonable workarounds, we'll merge autobuild
	Tonya Souther	knows a David Trout who solved that problem: he goes by "Fish".
	Oz Linden	Next major item
13:21		Cummere did a pass through VWR and came up with a whole bunch of build-related issues as candidates to be moved to OPEN
		round of applause for Cummere....
	Kitty Barnett	yay!
	Jonathan	Hoooo!
13:22	Oz Linden	So... we're going to zoom through the list and decide if we still care about each issue, and if so how much and move to OPEN if it's enough
	Merovingian	we moved some from SNOW too (still with Cummere's help)
	Oz Linden	otherwise, we'll just close 'em and forget 'em
	Cummere Mayo	im not very confident about this list ><
	Oz Linden	that's ok... it's having a list that's useful
		first vwr-3621
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3621 VWR-3621 Parser Stack Depth Exceeded needs its own error message.
13:23	Cummere Mayo	case in point
	Oz Linden	If I'm not mistaken this is an LSL issue?
	Robin Cornelius	LSL compile is server side now
	Merovingian	right, not an OPEN issue then
	Oz Linden	nor VWR
13:24	Merovingian	which project should that be moved to?
	Cummere Mayo	sorry i have a hard time telling the differance between building and scripting sometimes
		hence part of why im very not sure of the list
	Oz Linden	SVC, I guess - that will get it on their triage
	Robin Cornelius	SVC i would say
	Oz Linden	no problem
		either way it'll be out of our bucket
	Merovingian	volunteer to do the JIRA move
	Oz Linden	go
		vwr-9557
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-9557 VWR-9557 a standalone build fails on Fedora with NVIDIA graphics driver: 'glActiveTextureARB' was not declared in this scope
13:25	Cummere Mayo	i was told this is a lib issue
	Oz Linden	but there seems to be a patch...
13:26		this overlaps with the headers issue we were discussing earlier, Merov
	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	glh_linear?
	Oz Linden	I'd say move it to OPEN, change to Open status
		right
13:27	Robin Cornelius	the gl.h headers are distro supplied and if you use the nvidia supplied GL header you get the above build bug
	Merovingian	there's a related gl issue
	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	ah, so a different issue form the glh_linear one
		*from
13:28	Merovingian	digs for the JIRA
	Oz Linden	maybe we need to make our package that installs the nvidia headers detect if the system already has better ones?
	Robin Cornelius	i though the GL headers came with the GLX you had installed? you don't just ship them around
	Merovingian	OPEN-14
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-14 OPEN-14 we really need to decide how to handle glh/glh_linear.h for standalone cases
13:29	Robin Cornelius	glh_linear is different
		thats a standalone file that has no home anywhere
	Oz Linden	bring this one in and let's move on
13:30	Merovingian	moves VWR-9557 to OPEN
	Oz Linden	vwr-13793
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-13793 VWR-13793 Full support for Linux 64-bit
	JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη	our users have been screaming for this one ^
	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks	ya
	Oz Linden	well, this isn't going to happen soon, I'm sorry to say
	Tonya Souther	keep it on the radar?
	JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη	that's what I keep saying to them lol
	Oz Linden	I'm ok with importing it, and with taking patches to make it happen from the community though
13:31	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks	64bit support for all OSs at some point tin eh future would be nice
	Cummere Mayo	shrugs...
	Oz Linden	yes... would be nice....
	Cummere Mayo	I was told to make a list thats what i did... i wasnt told to weed out pipedreams :P
	Tonya Souther	I'm happy to let the Linux folks find the 64-bitness issues before I tackle OS X.
	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks	but i agree theres more pressing things to work on at this time
	Oz Linden	there are really only ever 3 priorities: 1) what I'm doing now, 2) what I'll do next, 3) what I probably won't get to
13:32	Cummere Mayo	32 bit mostly works okay on 64 bit os...
	Robin Cornelius	64 bit is not that broken, many of us have been doing linux 64 bit builds for years so the code itsself is in generaly ok shape for that
	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	One of the problems is that 32bit viewer can't use 64bit GStreamer.
	Oz Linden	ok vwr-19643
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-19643 VWR-19643 linux libndofdev incompatible to kernel >=2.6.33 (was: spacenavigator does not wok under x.org 1.8.0, udev and fedora 13)
	Oz Linden	ducks
	Robin Cornelius	there was a patch for libndofdev for new kernels
	Oz Linden	this has been on my plate forever... mea culpa
	JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη	lol
13:33	Oz Linden	I need to repackage and build the new version...
		just keeps not makeing it to #1
		please import it, Merov
		leave it assigned to me
		vwr-20466
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-20466 VWR-20466 viewer-external uuid.lib: debugging information corrupt
	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	don't put this issue on some stack the, ... better a FIFO
		*then
13:34	Merovingian	moves VWR-19643 to OPEN
	JayR Cela	my opinion / SL / QuickTime / Linux / do not play well together - PERIOD !!!!!! / is a waste of time
	Robin Cornelius	uuid.lib corrupt is caused my mixing your SDKs up
	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	QuickTime isn't used on Linux, JayR
13:35	Robin Cornelius	i suspect its a win 7 user on VC2005 using SDK 7.x
	Oz Linden	the reporter was you, Robin...
13:36	Robin Cornelius	forgot i filed that one
	Oz Linden	Can we just close this on the assumption that it either : was and incorrect setup, or: will be fixed by 2010 move?
	JayR Cela	@(br/ no quicktime does work with linux - watch Hulu.com on a regular basis / Quicktime and SL media webkit does not
	Robin Cornelius	its a build tool chain set up issue, so close please
	Oz Linden	thank you
13:37	JayR Cela	oops sorry my mistake Hulu uses flash
	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	I mean, the Linux viewer doesn't use QuickTime to view mediea streams.
	Robin Cornelius	no wonder these issues are all very familar
	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	It uses GSTreamer instead.
	Oz Linden	vwr-20994
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-20994 VWR-20994 Add a 'printbuilddirs' command to develop.py
	Oz Linden	I believe that autobuild essentially already has this, and it replaces develop.py
13:38	Cummere Mayo	hmm robin i think for the next round im just gonna look for issues created by you >.>
	JayR Cela	well Quicktime is as old as dirt / time to dump it / HTML5 should be seriously looked at
	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks	doesnt webkit already support html5?
		or partially at least
	Oz Linden	focus, people....
13:39	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks	sorry
	Oz Linden	I'd say close 20994
	Merovingian	+1
	Oz Linden	won't finish because we're moving to autobuild
		vwr-23304
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23304 VWR-23304 Allow choosing between system headers/libraries and LL supplied ones per package
13:40	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	should go to OPEN
	Oz Linden	but I think it may be the same as open-6
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-6 OPEN-6 Add support to autobuild for local archives as dependencies and as targets
	Oz Linden	so move it, but link it to that one as related?
13:41	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	let me read OPEN-6
	Oz Linden	we can take a deeper look when we actually do them
	Merovingian	resolve as dupe rather, no?
	Oz Linden	maybe
13:42	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	I don't quite understand what OPEN-6 is asking for, so I can't tell whether it's the same
	Oz Linden	one thing I don't want to do is proliferate command line switches more than we really need
		it's a little silly
13:43		the package/dependency mechanism only supports getting files remotely
		it supports http and scp urls, but not file urls
	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	ah
	Oz Linden	almost certainly a really easy fix if anyone wants to flex some python muscles
	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	but how would I choose how to fulfil a dependency?
13:44	Oz Linden	link them and let's move on
	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	ok
	Merovingian	does the move and link
	Oz Linden	you change your autobuild.xml file (or copy it to a temp and use that so that you don't accidentally check it in)
		vwr-23465
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23465 VWR-23465 !standalone build error due to missing libfreetype.so. libpangoft2-1.0.so: undefined reference to `FT_Realloc'
13:45	Oz Linden	Gentoo specific?
	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	yes
13:46	Oz Linden	anyone know if it's still a problem?
	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	or rather, doesn't occur on debian-like systems
		dunno if Gentoo is the only affected one
	Tonya Souther	Techwolf might, Oz, dunno anyone else. But all the world is not Ubuntu, or even Debian.
	Oz Linden	right....
	Robin Cornelius	gentoo might use different compile flags for freetype?
13:47	Oz Linden	import it and assign back to techwolf ... the sources for those builds should soon be in public repos if they are not already
		he can work out the upgrade/fix
		and then we'll take it in
13:48	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	dunno if it's that easy
	Oz Linden	VWR-23706
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23706 VWR-23706 current snowstorm building script terminated due to "collect2: ld terminated with signal 9 [Killed] "
13:49	Oz Linden	can anyone tell what this is?
	Tonya Souther	Looks like a hang that he sent a kill to.
	JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη	never seen that error
	Tonya Souther	Be nice if he'd actually included some description.
	Oz Linden	close it
		not reproducible
13:50	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	-DSERVER:BOOL=OFF ... wtf?
	Oz Linden	VWR-23826
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23826 VWR-23826 LLDir integration test fails with "failed to write to test file '/tmp/getNextFileInDir02//file1.abc'"
13:51	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	I think you guys fixed that one at some point.
	Oz Linden	that test has been cleaned up....
		would you take that one and either repro on current builds or close it, please, B?
	Merovingian	I think so, resolved as "Fixed"?
	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	I think so
	Oz Linden	ok... let's do that then
13:52		VWR-23961
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23961 VWR-23961 Add fmodex in FindFMOD cmake module
	Robin Cornelius	i think i still have a failing test, could be this one, i'll reopen if it is so
	Merovingian	Another FMOD one...
	Robin Cornelius	yea merge/dup as its all the same work required to solve anyway
13:53	Oz Linden	move it and link to open-4
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-4 OPEN-4 As an Open Source Developer, I would like to use Fmod in the autobuild system if i have the needed files already
	Merovingian	does that
	Oz Linden	VWR-24366
13:54	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	that's already in STORM ?
	Cummere Mayo	that got moved
		between when i wrote the list and now
	Oz Linden	ok... leave it
	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks	STORM-981
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/STORM-981 STORM-981 CMAKE_EXE_LINKER_FLAGS not honored when linking the viewer binary if -DLL_TESTS:BOOL=ON
	Oz Linden	VWR-24375
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24375 VWR-24375 link phase secondlife-bin fails; supplied LL-lib libuuid.so.1 needs to be removed.
13:56	Oz Linden	not clear to me what the problem or the fix is....
	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	already has a dup in OPEN ?
		OPEN-16
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-16 OPEN-16 link phase secondlife-bin fails; supplied LL-lib libuuid.so.1 needs to be upgraded
	Oz Linden	good catch...close as dup then
13:57	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	Ah, that's one of those we moved from SNOW
	Oz Linden	VWR-24410
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24410 VWR-24410 settings.xml not always updated during incremental builds, causing "WARNING: get: Control UpdaterMaximumBandwidth not found." and crash
	Cummere Mayo	is this kinda thing an open issue or not? so i know for future ref
13:58	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	yeah
	Oz Linden	yes
	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	probably a missing dependency declaration
	Oz Linden	smells related to the settings problem Jonathan is having .... move it
	Cummere Mayo	kay i wanst sure
	Jonathan	it's only related by name
13:59	Oz Linden	VWR-24484
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24484 VWR-24484 libmedia_plugin_webkit.so doesn't find libqgif.so on standalone, all web features defunct
	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	standalone-specific, so OPEN, I'd say
14:00	Office Orb	Your timer has expired!
	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	(might also be Gentoo specific)
	Robin Cornelius	no its not, its general standalone issue
	Oz Linden	I guess, but there's so much custom stuff in this I don't know what we'll do with it....
	Robin Cornelius	its related to how you build llqtwebkit
	Cummere Mayo	well i hope that list was good? ill try and get another done in the next week
	Robin Cornelius	-rpath is your friend
	Oz Linden	VWR-24594
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24594 VWR-24594 Problems with develop.py and vstool when trying to setup new development environment with Visual Studio 2010
	Oz Linden	move to OPEN (without looking)
14:01	Tonya Souther	the rest are VS 2010 too.
	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks	why not close it? itsll be bypased with autobuild
		right?
14:02	Oz Linden	24594 we should close, I think
	Merovingian	just moved it
	Oz Linden	the next two move,
		that's ok
14:03	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	ew, cascaded titles in description
	Oz Linden	the rest, move and we'll sort them out in the 2010 process
	Cummere Mayo	did i do okay with that list oz?
14:04	Oz Linden	I'm going to leave item 4 from the agenda on for next time: Other Autobuild Issues Triage: OPEN-11 Change STANDALONE to something less confusing OPEN-17 Upgrade builds to use OpenJPEG 1.4 (and create autobuild configuration for the lib)
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-11 OPEN-11 Change STANDALONE to something better.
		http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-17 OPEN-17 64bit standalone build clients do not correctly upload textures with alpha
	Oz Linden	Outstanding, Cummere
	Cummere Mayo	k ill take another pass through when i can find time then
	Oz Linden	there was only one there that didn't belong, and it didn't belong in VWR either!!
	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks	weve been using openjpeg 1.4 w/o much issue in FS and phoenix
14:05	Oz Linden	Thank you everyone, and especially Merov for volunteering to do the Jira mechanics!
	Robin Cornelius	yes thats an old buggy openjpeg issue that i fixed
		OPEN-17 close it with use a recent openjpeg
	Cummere Mayo	oh oz before i go... I sent the ca directly to you, so it may need forwarded... asumming its acceptable as is?
14:06	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks	thx Os and Mervo for taking your time with us
	Oz Linden	I'm going to get an autobuild-ized openjpeg repo up soon (unless someone else wants to do it?)
		I'll get it Cummere.... and can forward just fine... thank you
	Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks	Oz*
	Robin Cornelius	just don't use the 1.3 tarball as a base
	Oz Linden	no, we'll get the new one
	Robin Cornelius	thats svn only i think
		or git
14:07	Oz Linden	autobuild can pull from svn
	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	git?
	Oz Linden	adding support for git should be easy if we have to do that
	বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে	ah, the upstream repo
	Robin Cornelius	ah sorry thats the debian repro not offical openjpeg
	Oz Linden	Maybe our Phoenix friends can help us get that set up?
14:08	Office Orb	End transcription
	Tonya Souther	We can probably wrangle that, I think.

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+| oz, you are rotating it with 1 script?
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+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| or did you use 2 prims?
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| 1 script in an invisible root at the center
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| it's actually 16 linked prims
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| 13:03&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
+| I would be curious to see that 1 script rotation code for 2 axis
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+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| ok, meeting time
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| hi all!
+| it's full perm... have a look
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| Our agenda is quite full:
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/twisted.laws Twisted Laws]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| Hi
+| https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Open_Development_User_Group#Agenda
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| 13:04&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| VWR-24487
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
-| mail_to set to oz@lindenlab.com
+| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24487
+[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24487 VWR-24487] llurlentry_stub.cpp:196: error: deprecated conversion from string constant to 'char*'
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| I meant to talk w/ Q about this before the meeting, but that fell through the cracks
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| We will get a fix for this done pretty soon one way or another
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
+| dont mind me im snapshotting my ui so i can show something to fredrik..
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| 13:05&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| we're currently planning our hackathon for getting everything converted to VS 2010, which will want this
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| Start transcription to oz@lindenlab.com
+| it's tentatively scheduled for the end of next week, I believe
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+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
+| Are we invited?
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| I will be asking around to see if we can figure out how open devs can contribute
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| 13:06&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| if nothing else, the repos for all the open stuff we'll be working on will be in public
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| so you'll be able to see and test what we're doing
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| Transcript will be sent to: oz@lindenlab.com
+| I"ll try to do better than that, though.
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| hey oz!
+| stay tuned
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| 13:07&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| If it's really bothering people, we could commit the temporary fix we have now, but I am going to want to replace it
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| ''hopes oz isnt a stealers fan >.>''
+| I'll leave that item on our agenda for next time too
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| 13:08&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| next..... OPEN-1 - perhaps Jonathan can give us his view of the status of that
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
-| 07:01&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
-| no, Patriots & Redskins - I was rooting for Green Bay
+| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-1
+[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-1 OPEN-1] autobuild does not support use with Visual Studio Express
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]&nbsp;
+| so will this mean going forward everyone will need to sue VS 2010?
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
-| 07:02&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| i saw the end of the game when i got home from RL work as roommate had the game on
+| use*
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| it was a very good game
+| yes, tank
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]&nbsp;
-| that was one serious game, however shall we get on topic?
+| ok thx
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 | &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη]&nbsp;
+| starting with 2.6 right?
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| 13:09&nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| I was actually coding during it :-)
+| right
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη]&nbsp;
+| kk
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]&nbsp;
-| oz i sent you a list of what i think are mostly build tools / lib related jiras
+| so libs wont be affected?
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| So... I am in the middle of reorganizing my agenda page for this meeting. so I don't have a link
+| well, all of you that work on windows :-)
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
-| 07:03&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]&nbsp;
-| https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Oz_Linden/Office_Hours_Topics
+| well yeah :P
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| i tested the new auto build reop you did Oz and it still works fin for those with VS pro
+| all libs too
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 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| at least for me
+| not a small job
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη]&nbsp;
-| It is failing for Express though, those missing .h files
+| ouch
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| 13:10&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| so as soon as you have the libs changed, we'll need to be using 2010 on any revision?
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| ah... good... let's go over that here today, but I'd like to go over the autobuild issues first
+| Jonathan ... where do we stand w/ VS Express ?
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
-| 07:04&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]&nbsp;
-| ok
+| will the old libs be in place for a while to give people time to transision over?
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/twisted.laws Twisted Laws]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| as long as autobuild configure works and i can compile with the IDE i'm fine
+| the old downloads will still be there for old versions
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
-| ''didn't get to try autobuild, yet''
+| My version runs, with that hack of moving the build directory
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη]&nbsp;
-| i was having issues with the missing h files till i made an adjustnemt to the ide
+| oh good ok
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+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]&nbsp;
+| ok thatll work then, thx
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
-| Wolfpup, that is not a long-term solution I think
+| I would like to hear from other people about how theirs runs
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-| &nbsp;
+| 13:11&nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| is there a jira about the h files somewhere?
+| WOlfpup and Nickyp
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/twisted.laws Twisted Laws]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| what'd u change in the ide, wolfpup?
+| so the problem there is that the fact that indra is no longer in the tree above the executable means that it can't find its settings file, right?
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
-| It was mentioned on the mailing list cummere
+| yes
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| not the saved settings, but the initial ones
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
-| 07:05&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| no, it's not a long term solution, but it may be enough to do the merge
+| I assume that the Pro users don't have this and can run the exe where it is built?
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
-| &nbsp;
+| 13:12&nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
-| twisted add extra folders ti the includes and libs f under optiond
+| I know wolfpup uses pro, dunno about Nickyp
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| first things first... I did a pass over the exisiting wiki docs on Autobuild this morning
+| no takers...
-|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
-| 07:06&nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| I'd appreciate review/commentary/suggestions/fixes for all the pages linked from https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Autobuild
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| at your lesiure, of course
+| ok, well, we'll want to sort that out, but I suspect that it'll be pretty easy
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]&nbsp;
-| Twisted look up the viewr2_microsoft wiki
+| ''hasnt used 2010 yet, so doesnt know how its different''
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
-| We don't yet have a page specifically on building the viewer with autobuild, but I'm going to start that today
+| why the compiler would make a difference is a mystery
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
-| 07:07&nbsp;
+| 13:13&nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| will send a note to the list when it's up
+| Tank, this is about autobuild
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/twisted.laws Twisted Laws]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]&nbsp;
-| i already had them in the includes/libs, thanks
+| ahh ok
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
-| 07:09&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| So... the status of OPEN-1
+| it may be that some command is not conditionalized correctly when setting up those files
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]&nbsp;
-| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-1
+| maybe but as we don't have the build inside indra/ anymore having code in the viewer that tests for that is asking for bugs
-[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-1 OPEN-1] autobuild does not support use with Visual Studio Express
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
-| 07:10&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
+| Robin, can you autobuild on Express as another test case?
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| Do we believe that we have an acceptable workaround if we modify the autobuild.xml in the viewer to make a configuration specifically for Express ?
+| yes, clearly we'll want to change that
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]&nbsp;
+| i've only got express in 2005/2010 versions
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| 13:14&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| 05 for now, please
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]&nbsp;
-| Jonathan mabey the SDK's your useing might not have the needed files
+| and yes i can run some other tests
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| that workaround dose look good Oz
+| thanks
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
-| You will update that xml to have the other options, e.g. Release?
+| Oz, did you update the source with the /u (?) xml fix
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
-| 07:11&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| I was thinking that we really don't need the others
+| not yet, but I'll do that after this meeting
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 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| no one is going to build a Release viewer with Express
+| next issue is OPEN-4
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
+| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-4
+[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-4 OPEN-4] As an Open Source Developer, I would like to use Fmod in the autobuild system if i have the needed files already
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| 13:15&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| the trick here is that we need at least new instructions on where to put the fmod files under the build tree
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
-| 07:12&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
-| err, I do all the time
+| that is just small change, right?
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| 13:16&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| ideally, I'd like to go one better and do an autobuild re-package project so that you can check that out, build it, and you'll have a local archive that your viewer build can use
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]&nbsp;
+| at one point (snowglobe 1.x) we had an optinon were we could pass a var with FMOD_SDK_DIR and it just used that to find all the bits it needed
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/twisted.laws Twisted Laws]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]&nbsp;
-| it seems to me that something is ignoring the INCLUDE env variable
+| interesting, is that failing for all platforms?
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| 13:17&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| FMOD logic had to be changed quite a bit to it to require being used only in private mode
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 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| i do all the time too
+| ''thinks he should look into that one''
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| and as far as I know there isn't any real advantage to using Debug.... ?
+| would _love_ your help, Merov - let's talk after this
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| 13:18&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]&nbsp;
+| is there something with having "Wolf" in your name and being unable to spell?
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη]&nbsp;
+| I lol'd
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]&nbsp;
-| Oz whant i do my confid i do it forthe normal configureation but then i build in release mode for the ide
+| ''has to parse comments twice to make sense of them''
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/twisted.laws Twisted Laws]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| until autobuild i've always built release
+| we've got a lot of *wolf* names on this project... not sure what that tells us...
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]&nbsp;
-| And I copy an existing shortcut to make a new shortcut, I really don't want to have to remember where my binary is and adjust it
+| oh man, theres to meny wolves out there...
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| 13:19&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη]&nbsp;
+| we have a lot of 'wolfs' on the phoenix project too >.>
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
-| 07:13&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| why? in any event, I hope to get a real fix that will let autobuild adapt to Express and use the normal configurations
+| they're taking over
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/twisted.laws Twisted Laws]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
-| i share my builds with 2 or 3 other people and share the install that is built as well as changes
+| I even saw a "Wolf Linden" on jira today
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη]&nbsp;
+| haha
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| doesn't building in release mode loose symbols ?
+| I once worked for a 12 person company, 5 of whom were named Dave....
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
-| Also, before forcing WithDebug on us, it would be nice to do a timing test--1hr 15m to compile is already hard enough on me
-|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
-| 07:14&nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| And a link time of 6 minutes--I don't want more symbols, work done by the compiler, etc
+| anyway....
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]&nbsp;
-| the only way to do that would be for autobuild do like develop.py dose now and test for express
+| lol
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
-| no one is forcing anything... let's not start that
+| yay
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
-| sorry, poor choice of words
+| Wolf Linden is part of snowstorm
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/twisted.laws Twisted Laws]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη]&nbsp;
-| i've been building my own viewer for over 3 years and have never had unsurmountable issues till now :(
+| lol
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
-| 07:15&nbsp;
+| 13:20&nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| My concern is that I dont' want to continue the combinatorial explosion of configurations
+| once open-1 and open-4 have at least reasonable workarounds, we'll merge autobuild
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tonya.souther Tonya Souther]&nbsp;
-| I am curious about something--
+| ''knows a David Trout who solved that problem: he goes by "Fish".''
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| Next major item
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| 13:21&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| Cummere did a pass through VWR and came up with a whole bunch of build-related issues as candidates to be moved to OPEN
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| make the config modular?
+| round of applause for Cummere....
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/kitty.barnett Kitty Barnett]&nbsp;
+| yay!
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
-| Why are the options combined--it would make more sense to have Release + Opensource as 2 items
+| Hoooo!
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| 13:22&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| So... we're going to zoom through the list and decide if we still care about each issue, and if so how much and move to OPEN if it's enough
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
-| 07:16&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]&nbsp;
+| we moved some from SNOW too (still with Cummere's help)
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| would someone do a comparison of Release vs RelWithDebInfo of installability, installer size, and build-from-clean time using Express?
+| otherwise, we'll just close 'em and forget 'em
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
-| yes, it would make sense, but autobuild does not support that (yet)
+| im not very confident about this list ><
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| that's ok... it's having a list that's useful
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| I would do that test if I had an xml file with the Release settings
+| first vwr-3621
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
-| to me with pro the build times seem aboput the same for me
+| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3621
+[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3621 VWR-3621] Parser Stack Depth Exceeded needs its own error message.
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
-| 07:17&nbsp;
+| 13:23&nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
-| I guess I could just substitute Release for Rel with Dbg
+| case in point
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| yes, I believe that would do it, Jonathan
+| If I'm not mistaken this is an LSL issue?
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]&nbsp;
-| ok, my cpu will be burning hot today
+| LSL compile is server side now
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
-| 07:18&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]&nbsp;
-| yes CPU capacity dose make a difference in build times
+| right, not an OPEN issue then
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| please do that test and let us know the results. Unless there is a substantial cost to leave in the debug info, I'd prefer to use that so that we have one target that's usable for either purpose
+| nor VWR
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| 13:24&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]&nbsp;
+| which project should that be moved to?
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
+| sorry i have a hard time telling the differance between building and scripting sometimes
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| as long as both builds are done on the same system, I'm prepared to believe the test will be valid
+| hence part of why im very not sure of the list
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
-| 07:19&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| oh wait, I cannot test, there is the issue of the.h files
+| SVC, I guess - that will get it on their triage
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]&nbsp;
-| the thing is when you build a release with debut the viewer is set to auto start the debug loging consol window
+| SVC i would say
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| That issue being that the build only works when you run it from within the IDE, and not when you run the 'autobuild build' command?
+| no problem
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| either way it'll be out of our bucket
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
-| 07:20&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]&nbsp;
-| which is the same information that is in the secondlife.log file
+| ''volunteer to do the JIRA move''
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| go
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| I have not tried the combination of autobuild configure + ide compile -- autobuild build fails with missing .h files
+| vwr-9557
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
-| im talking about outside the ide when you do an relwithdebinfo build
+| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-9557
+[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-9557 VWR-9557] a standalone build fails on Fedora with NVIDIA graphics driver: 'glActiveTextureARB' was not declared in this scope
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| 13:25&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
+| i was told this is a lib issue
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| ''sigh''
+| but there seems to be a patch...
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| 13:26&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| this overlaps with the headers issue we were discussing earlier, Merov
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
-| 07:21&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
+| glh_linear?
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| I'd say move it to OPEN, change to Open status
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| ok.... let's back up
+| right
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| 13:27&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]&nbsp;
+| the gl.h headers are distro supplied and if you use the nvidia supplied GL header you get the above build bug
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/twisted.laws Twisted Laws]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]&nbsp;
-| i notice the build directory is in a different directory with autobuild
+| there's a related gl issue
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
-| brb
+| ah, so a different issue form the glh_linear one
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| *from
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| 13:28&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]&nbsp;
+| ''digs for the JIRA''
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| I want to know if the autobuild configuration works
+| maybe we need to make our package that installs the nvidia headers detect if the system already has better ones?
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]&nbsp;
+| i though the GL headers came with the GLX you had installed? you don't just ship them around
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]&nbsp;
-| Yes on Express
+| OPEN-14
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
-| works here
+| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-14
+[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-14 OPEN-14] we really need to decide how to handle glh/glh_linear.h for standalone cases
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| 13:29&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]&nbsp;
+| glh_linear is different
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| thats a standalone file that has no home anywhere
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| I really really really do not care about any other way of doing it
+| bring this one in and let's move on
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| 13:30&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]&nbsp;
+| ''moves VWR-9557 to OPEN''
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/twisted.laws Twisted Laws]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| it fails 2 tests for me
+| vwr-13793
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
-| I really really really do not want to talk now about any other way of doing it
+| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-13793
+[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-13793 VWR-13793] Full support for Linux 64-bit
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/twisted.laws Twisted Laws]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη]&nbsp;
-| they were in one of the emails...
+| our users have been screaming for this one ^
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]&nbsp;
-| Twisted, the configuration fails?
+| ya
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/twisted.laws Twisted Laws]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| i don't have that issue when i use cmake .
+| well, this isn't going to happen soon, I'm sorry to say
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tonya.souther Tonya Souther]&nbsp;
+| keep it on the radar?
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
-| 07:22&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη]&nbsp;
-| no the compile fails 2 tests
+| that's what I keep saying to them lol
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| Twisted -- please stop confusing the issue
+| I'm ok with importing it, and with taking patches to make it happen from the community though
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| 13:31&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]&nbsp;
+| 64bit support for all OSs at some point tin eh future would be nice
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
-| Please don't make Oz crazy--let's stick with just autobuild
+| ''shrugs...''
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| so all agree autobuild configure works?
+| yes... would be nice....
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
-| Twisted i think your problem is that your useing the cgwin console and not the windows cmd window
+| I was told to make a list thats what i did... i wasnt told to weed out pipedreams :P
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/twisted.laws Twisted Laws]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tonya.souther Tonya Souther]&nbsp;
-| when i autobuild configure, it builds in a different directory and the compile with the ide fails 2 tests
+| I'm happy to let the Linux folks find the 64-bitness issues before I tackle OS X.
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]&nbsp;
+| but i agree theres more pressing things to work on at this time
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
-| 07:23&nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| when i configure with cmake ., the tests pass
-|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| In fact, the configure step is essentially optional I think.... if you run the build command on a configuration you have not yet run the configure step for, it runs that step for you automatically
+| there are really only ever 3 priorities: 1) what I'm doing now, 2) what I'll do next, 3) what I probably won't get to
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| 13:32&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
+| 32 bit mostly works okay on 64 bit os...
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]&nbsp;
+| 64 bit is not that broken, many of us have been doing linux 64 bit builds for years so the code itsself is in generaly ok shape for that
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
-| back
+| One of the problems is that 32bit viewer can't use 64bit GStreamer.
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| ok vwr-19643
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
+| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-19643
+[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-19643 VWR-19643] linux libndofdev incompatible to kernel >=2.6.33 (was: spacenavigator does not wok under x.org 1.8.0, udev and fedora 13)
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| Twisted.... last warning... if you continue I'm going to get annoyed
+| ''ducks''
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]&nbsp;
+| there was a patch for libndofdev for new kernels
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
-| 07:24&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| then it basicaly runs develop.py with a different target dir then
+| this has been on my plate forever... mea culpa
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη]&nbsp;
+| lol
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| 13:33&nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| If there is a problem on some systems or configurations with just running 'autobuild build -c VCexpressRelWithDebInfo' , then I want to know what they are.
+| I need to repackage and build the new version...
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| just keeps not makeing it to #1
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| please import it, Merov
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| leave it assigned to me
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| vwr-20466
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
+| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-20466
+[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-20466 VWR-20466] viewer-external uuid.lib: debugging information corrupt
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
+| don't put this issue on some stack the, ... better a FIFO
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| *then
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| 13:34&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]&nbsp;
+| ''moves VWR-19643 to OPEN''
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jayr.cela JayR Cela]&nbsp;
-| ''is so lost anyways so running afk while she changes''
+| my opinion / SL / QuickTime / Linux / do not play well together - PERIOD !!!!!! / is a waste of time
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]&nbsp;
-| or at least some thing similar
+| uuid.lib corrupt is caused my mixing your SDKs up
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
-| 07:25&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
-| Oz, did you see those emails about the 2 .h files?
+| QuickTime isn't used on Linux, JayR
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+| 13:35&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]&nbsp;
+| i suspect its a win 7 user on VC2005 using SDK 7.x
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| Please add comments to OPEN-1 about those issues if there are any
+| the reporter was you, Robin...
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| 13:36&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]&nbsp;
+| forgot i filed that one
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| Next issue...
+| Can we just close this on the assumption that it either : was and incorrect setup, or: will be fixed by 2010 move?
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jayr.cela JayR Cela]&nbsp;
-| OPEN-4
+| @(br/ no quicktime does work with linux - watch Hulu.com on a regular basis / Quicktime and SL media webkit does not
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]&nbsp;
-| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-4
+| its a build tool chain set up issue, so close please
-[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-4 OPEN-4] As an Open Source Developer, I would like to use Fmod in the autobuild system if i have the needed files already
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
-| 07:26&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| I'm going to meet later today with some Lindens and try to work out a solution to this that's good enough....
+| thank you
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| 13:37&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jayr.cela JayR Cela]&nbsp;
+| oops sorry my mistake Hulu uses flash
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
+| I mean, the Linux viewer doesn't use QuickTime to view mediea streams.
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]&nbsp;
-| there is a posible solution also listed in open-6
+| no wonder these issues are all very familar
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
-| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-6
+| It uses GSTreamer instead.
-[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-6 OPEN-6] Add support to autobuild for local archives as dependencies and as targets
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
-| 07:27&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| it's possible that will initially just be documentation on how to manually put the fmod distribution in the right place, but we'll see if we can do better than that
+| vwr-20994
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
-| i added it there last nigh
+| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-20994
+[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-20994 VWR-20994] Add a 'printbuilddirs' command to develop.py
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| Right - that's part of what open-6 is about
+| I believe that autobuild essentially already has this, and it replaces develop.py
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| 13:38&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
+| hmm robin i think for the next round im just gonna look for issues created by you >.>
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jayr.cela JayR Cela]&nbsp;
+| well Quicktime is as old as dirt / time to dump it / HTML5 should be seriously looked at
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]&nbsp;
+| doesnt webkit already support html5?
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| as it would cover all 3p libs
+| or partially at least
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
-| 07:28&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| I don't think that I understood your suggestion, Wolfpup, but I'll give it another read later
+| focus, people....
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
-| 07:29&nbsp;
+| 13:39&nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]&nbsp;
-| What did you think of my idea to have an environment vairable point to those fmod files?
+| ''sorry''
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| is the FMOD issue the same as before autobuild (i.e. non-public download location)?
+| I'd say close 20994
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]&nbsp;
-| basicaly opensource the autobuild 'wrabper for fmod' and then let the OS devs that use it load the source files into it
+| +1
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
-| 07:30&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| An important part of what autobuild is about is reducing the need for so many command line options
+| won't finish because we're moving to autobuild
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
-| 07:31&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| I do think that it might be interesting to be able to locally override autobuild package settings from the file either from the command line or from the environment, but specifying them would be complex
+| vwr-23304
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
-| and i was sugesting to make a folder in the autobuild sustem that would stor all 3p libs/includes and have a sincle file that autobuild would monitor for seeing if it needed to load files from the local folder or fetch them from online
+| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23304
+[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23304 VWR-23304] Allow choosing between system headers/libraries and LL supplied ones per package
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| 13:40&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
+| should go to OPEN
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| for now, I think that the ability to have a modified configuration file might be enough, and I have the change for that done (open-7)
+| but I think it may be the same as open-6
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
+| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-6
+[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-6 OPEN-6] Add support to autobuild for local archives as dependencies and as targets
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-7
+| so move it, but link it to that one as related?
-[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-7 OPEN-7] autobuild: add selection of the config-file using an environment variable
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
-| 07:32&nbsp;
+| 13:41&nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
-| many command line options? The only ones of which there are plenty are the -D... stuff, but I don't see how autobuild would reduce those.
+| let me read OPEN-6
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
-| 07:33&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| used correctly, autobuild should eliminate the need for the -D options
+| we can take a deeper look when we actually do them
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]&nbsp;
-| Oz, for Express I had to go through a convoluted process to set up to use the 3 msvc80* files, and that requires either an env variable or dropping them into the build tree
+| resolve as dupe rather, no?
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| maybe
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| 13:42&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
+| I don't quite understand what OPEN-6 is asking for, so I can't tell whether it's the same
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| because they'll all be in the autobuild configuration
+| one thing I don't want to do is proliferate command line switches more than we really need
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| it's a little silly
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| 13:43&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| the package/dependency mechanism only supports getting files remotely
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| please document that in open-1, jonathan
+| it supports http and scp urls, but not file urls
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
-| 07:34&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
-| ok, it's in the how-to-build wiki
+| ah
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| almost certainly a really easy fix if anyone wants to flex some python muscles
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
-| but I will make it clearer
+| but how would I choose how to fulfil a dependency?
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
-| &nbsp;
+| 13:44&nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| we'll move it to a wiki page as soon as we believe we've got a stable solution
+| link them and let's move on
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
-| right now if you try to use -DFMOD=TRUE it will also set -DPRIVATEBUILD=TRUE and OS devs do not need that
+| ok
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]&nbsp;
+| ''does the move and link''
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| I don't want the wiki docs on how to build the viewer modified for autobuild yet, please
+| you change your autobuild.xml file (or copy it to a temp and use that so that you don't accidentally check it in)
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| vwr-23465
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
-| please file an issue on that, Wolfpup
+| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23465
+[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23465 VWR-23465] !standalone build error due to missing libfreetype.so. libpangoft2-1.0.so: undefined reference to `FT_Realloc'
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
-| 07:35&nbsp;
+| 13:45&nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| get it working consistantly first, then document?
+| Gentoo specific?
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
-| Clarification--I will make the steps clearer in open-1
+| yes
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| 13:46&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| anyone know if it's still a problem?
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
-| exactly, Cummere
+| or rather, doesn't occur on debian-like systems
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| i think the OS autobuild wiki for the viewer should be its own page
+| dunno if Gentoo is the only affected one
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tonya.souther Tonya Souther]&nbsp;
-| +1 wolfpup
+| Techwolf might, Oz, dunno anyone else. But all the world is not Ubuntu, or even Debian.
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| What I want to do is set up the viewer build documentation this way:
+| right....
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]&nbsp;
-| like there are ones for linux, mac, and windows
+| gentoo might use different compile flags for freetype?
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
-| 07:37&nbsp;
+| 13:47&nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| 1 page that has: links to platoform-specific environment setup pages, a section on how to download the viewer repo, a section (very short) on how to run the autobuild command, and a section with platform-specific links on how to run your test viewer
+| import it and assign back to techwolf ... the sources for those builds should soon be in public repos if they are not already
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| ''.has to step away for a moment.... home interrupt''
+| he can work out the upgrade/fix
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
-| 07:39&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| I'm back
+| and then we'll take it in
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| 13:48&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
+| dunno if it's that easy
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| VWR-23706
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
-| wb
+| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23706
+[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23706 VWR-23706] current snowstorm building script terminated due to "collect2: ld terminated with signal 9 [Killed] "
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
-| 07:40&nbsp;
+| 13:49&nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| (had to help w/ the garage door ... melting snow keeps popping the GFI breaker that the garage door is on)
+| can anyone tell what this is?
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tonya.souther Tonya Souther]&nbsp;
-| it is ok
+| Looks like a hang that he sent a kill to.
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη]&nbsp;
+| never seen that error
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tonya.souther Tonya Souther]&nbsp;
-| GFI breakers are a good thing they help pervent fire and getting shicked
+| Be nice if he'd actually included some description.
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| close it
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| not reproducible
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| 13:50&nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
-| what did I miss? my laptop decided to spontaneously shut down due to hot CPU :-\
+| -DSERVER:BOOL=OFF ... wtf?
-|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
-| 07:41&nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/eddi.decosta Eddi Decosta]&nbsp;
-| hi there:)
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| hey eddi
+| VWR-23826
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
-| sounds like you have a wire short somewhere then oz
+| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23826
+[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23826 VWR-23826] LLDir integration test fails with "failed to write to test file '/tmp/getNextFileInDir02//file1.abc'"
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| 13:51&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
+| I think you guys fixed that one at some point.
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| so... I'd _really_ like to get the autobuild branch merged this week, so please do the tests and document where we are in open-1
+| that test has been cleaned up....
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
-| 07:42&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| has anyone tested it on Linux 64bit, yet, or is that up to me?
+| would you take that one and either repro on current builds or close it, please, B?
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]&nbsp;
-| well for VS Pro open-1 good to go
+| I think so, resolved as "Fixed"?
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
+| I think so
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| no, there is an outdoor outlet that the ice gets into... which is what GFI breakers are for....
+| ok... let's do that then
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| 13:52&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| VWR-23961
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
-| 07:43&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
-| not that I know of, Boroondas
+| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23961
+[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23961 VWR-23961] Add fmodex in FindFMOD cmake module
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]&nbsp;
-| ah. dont have a snow cover for it oz?
+| i think i still have a failing test, could be this one, i'll reopen if it is so
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]&nbsp;
-| I don't know if enough of the dependencies are available yet to do that, but by all means try standalone
+| Another FMOD one...
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]&nbsp;
-| Broondas test it in non-standalone and stanalon if you can
+| yea merge/dup as its all the same work required to solve anyway
-|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
-| 07:44&nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| Oz those outdoors outlets might have bad seal and need to be replaced
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
-| 07:45&nbsp;
+| 13:53&nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| Cummere... I wanted to go back to your list, but I don't see the email
+| move it and link to open-4
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
-| let me try resending
+| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-4
+[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-4 OPEN-4] As an Open Source Developer, I would like to use Fmod in the autobuild system if i have the needed files already
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]&nbsp;
+| ''does that''
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| VWR-24366
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| 13:54&nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
-| What is the command to use autobuild with standalone?
+| that's already in STORM ?
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
-| I've replaced the seals.... it only happens a couple of times a year...
+| that got moved
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
-| 07:46&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| there are standalone configurations in the config file
+| between when i wrote the list and now
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| ok... leave it
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]&nbsp;
-| (I think)
+| STORM-981
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
+| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/STORM-981
+[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/STORM-981 STORM-981] CMAKE_EXE_LINKER_FLAGS not honored when linking the viewer binary if -DLL_TESTS:BOOL=ON
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| OpenSourceStandalone...
+| VWR-24375
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
-| yes there are
+| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24375
+[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24375 VWR-24375] link phase secondlife-bin fails; supplied LL-lib libuuid.so.1 needs to be removed.
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| 13:56&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| not clear to me what the problem or the fix is....
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
-| resent
+| already has a dup in OPEN ?
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| OpenSourceStandAlone is how they start
+| OPEN-16
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
-| 07:47&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/eddi.decosta Eddi Decosta]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
-| hi tech
+| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-16
+[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-16 OPEN-16] link phase secondlife-bin fails; supplied LL-lib libuuid.so.1 needs to be upgraded
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| Let's make going over that list our agenda for the Wednesday meeting (hopefully by then the autobuild stuff will be merged)
+| good catch...close as dup then
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
-| &nbsp;
+| 13:57&nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
-| merged to viewer-dev?
+| Ah, that's one of those we moved from SNOW
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
-| ''< will miss the wensday meeting as he will be @ RL work''
-|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
-| 07:48&nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| yes, that's what I meant, Boroondas
+| VWR-24410
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
-| Any non-autobuild issues today?
+| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24410
+[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24410 VWR-24410] settings.xml not always updated during incremental builds, causing "WARNING: get: Control UpdaterMaximumBandwidth not found." and crash
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
-| well im not even sure how much of that is build tools and how much i confused with it.. so thats why i sent it to you now before i went any further
+| is this kinda thing an open issue or not? so i know for future ref
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
-| &nbsp;
+| 13:58&nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
-| Broondas Oz has a merged repos that is the current viewer-development + autobuild
+| yeah
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| what's the status of VWR-24487? Any ETA on the decision on that?
+| yes
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
-| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24487
+| probably a missing dependency declaration
-[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24487 VWR-24487] llurlentry_stub.cpp:196: error: deprecated conversion from string constant to 'char*'
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
-| 07:49&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| no decision yet, but....
+| smells related to the settings problem Jonathan is having .... move it
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
-| (If it'll take long, we should probably use the quick-and-dirty cast-to-non-const fix in the meantime)
+| kay i wanst sure
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
+| it's only related by name
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| 13:59&nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| Team Chopper is in the process of converting all our sources to be VS2010 compatible, and...
+| VWR-24484
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
-| in the process we're getting a lot of things cleaned up
+| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24484
+[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24484 VWR-24484] libmedia_plugin_webkit.so doesn't find libqgif.so on standalone, all web features defunct
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
+| standalone-specific, so OPEN, I'd say
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
-| 07:50&nbsp;
+| 14:00&nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
-| the problem I have with changing the file in the viewer tree is that it's supposed to be generated from the template, the _real_ version of which is in the simulator sources
+| Your timer has expired!
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
-| 07:51&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
-| yeah
+| (might also be Gentoo specific)
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]&nbsp;
+| no its not, its general standalone issue
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| so what I want to get done is apply the fix to the template processing in the sim tree, and check in the fixed result in the viewer tree
+| I guess, but there's so much custom stuff in this I don't know what we'll do with it....
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]&nbsp;
-| hoping to do that during the VS2010 cleanup
+| its related to how you build llqtwebkit
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
+| well i hope that list was good? ill try and get another done in the next week
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
-| 07:52&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]&nbsp;
-| which we hope will be finished in the next 2-3 weeks - that is in no way a promise
+| -rpath is your friend
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| one thing for shure there will need to be some adjustments needed for VS2010
+| VWR-24594
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
-| though, probably instead of keeping that header in sync, we should keep the message template in sync and generate the header as part of the viewer build? as it is now, the message template and the header can be (and are currently) out of sync in the viewer source tree.
+| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24594
+[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24594 VWR-24594] Problems with develop.py and vstool when trying to setup new development environment with Visual Studio 2010
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
-| 07:53&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| actually, what I'd like to do is remove the template from the viewer tree completely
+| move to OPEN (without looking)
 |- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
+| 14:01&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tonya.souther Tonya Souther]&nbsp;
+| the rest are VS 2010 too.
+|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
 | &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]&nbsp;
-| VS2010 dose not have an options to add specific default include, exe, and lib folders
+| why not close it? itsll be bypased with autobuild
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+| right?
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+| 14:02&nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| and just put a comment in the generated file that documents that it comes from the sim tree build
+| 24594 we should close, I think
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-| 07:54&nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
-| isn't the template also used for ensureing protocol compatibility outside of these headers?
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-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]&nbsp;
-| hey oz I have a question for you though im not sure if youre able/allowed to answer it
+| ''just moved it''
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-| 07:55&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| I don't know what other hurdles we'll face with the VS2010 conversion... the current semi-plan is to get a lot of Lindens in a room and have a hackaton to do most of it in one go...
+| the next two move,
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-| I don't know, Boroondas... need to investigate more deeply
+| that's ok
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+| 14:03&nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
-| ok ...
+| ew, cascaded titles in description
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 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| ask away, Cummere
+| the rest, move and we'll sort them out in the 2010 process
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-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
-| ''would not being in on that hackathing''
+| did i do okay with that list oz?
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-| 07:56&nbsp;
+| 14:04&nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| why is it that LL is refusing to crack down on devices like the one in VWR-24746 that rip ip and or mac addresses and make publically availible lists of "alts"
+| I'm going to leave item 4 from the agenda on for next time: Other Autobuild Issues Triage:
+* OPEN-11 Change STANDALONE to something less confusing
+* OPEN-17 Upgrade builds to use OpenJPEG 1.4 (and create autobuild configuration for the lib)
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-| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24746
+| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-11
-[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24746 VWR-24746] Ban ZFRedzone
+[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-11 OPEN-11] Change STANDALONE to something better.
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-| &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
-| Until the real issue gets tickled, can we take in the quick fix of casting the literal to non-const? It'd be nice to be able to build without having to modify the repo.
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-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| I'm going to investigate incorporating open devs into the hackathon... when I know more about when & how it will happen, I'll let you know
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-| 07:57&nbsp;
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-| Sorry, Cummere... you're right... not something I can discuss except to say that it's a complicated issue that does get discussed within LL from time to time
+| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-17
+[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-17 OPEN-17] 64bit standalone build clients do not correctly upload textures with alpha
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-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| < would hope it is on his day off from his RL job
+| Outstanding, Cummere
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-| 07:58&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
-| can you please point the right people to that jira?
+| k ill take another pass through when i can find time then
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 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| I'll discuss the template/const issue with Q and get back to you
+| there was only one there that didn't belong, and it didn't belong in VWR either!!
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-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]&nbsp;
-| I hope Robin C can be part of that hackathon
+| weve been using openjpeg 1.4 w/o much issue in FS and phoenix
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+| 14:05&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| Thank you everyone, and especially Merov for volunteering to do the Jira mechanics!
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-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]&nbsp;
-| Hackatron might be difficult for community devs, due to timezone etc.. But be sure to check jira and mailing list for existing fixes.
+| yes thats an old buggy openjpeg issue that i fixed
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-| 07:59&nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| Yes, one of the things I have to do between now and whenever it is is to collect existing fixes....
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-| will probably ask for help on that
+| OPEN-17 close it with use a recent openjpeg
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 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
-| im doing my best on that. :-/
+| oh oz before i go... I sent the ca directly to you, so it may need forwarded... asumming its acceptable as is?
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+| 14:06&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]&nbsp;
+| thx Os and Mervo for taking your time with us
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-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| Dealing with the various incarnations the msvc* files is a real pain
+| I'm going to get an autobuild-ized openjpeg repo up soon (unless someone else wants to do it?)
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-| 08:00&nbsp;
+| &nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
-| Your timer has expired!
+| I'll get it Cummere.... and can forward just fine... thank you
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-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]&nbsp;
-| That is Robin's area of expertise
+| Oz*
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+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]&nbsp;
+| just don't use the 1.3 tarball as a base
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 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| I'll put participation in the hackathon on our next meeting agenda too
+| no, we'll get the new one
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+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]&nbsp;
+| thats svn only i think
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+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|&nbsp;
+| or git
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-| 08:01&nbsp;
+| 14:07&nbsp;
-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| i wish i knew of an easy way other then commenting (which still gets lost) to tag a jira with soemthing bright and noticable that says the fix is there
+| autobuild can pull from svn
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-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/wolfpup.lowenhar Wolfpup]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
-| ''will be happy when open 4,6, and 9 are in the autobuild system''
+| git?
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 | style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
-| Ok folks... our time is up today... I've got some other things to attend to, and you've got autobuild tests to run....
+| adding support for git should be easy if we have to do that
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-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|''Office Orb''&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]&nbsp;
-| End transcription
+| ah, the upstream repo
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-| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]&nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]&nbsp;
-| oz, see my last comment on open-1
+| ah sorry thats the debian repro not offical openjpeg
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+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]&nbsp;
+| Maybe our Phoenix friends can help us get that set up?
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+| 14:08&nbsp;
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-| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-1
+| End transcription
-[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-1 OPEN-1] autobuild does not support use with Visual Studio Express
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+| &nbsp;
+| style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tonya.souther Tonya Souther]&nbsp;
+| We can probably wrangle that, I think.
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