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* [8:59] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]:  Hello everybody
* [8:59] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]:  Hello everyone.
* [8:59] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]:  Hello!
* [8:59] [[User:Dahlia Trimble|Dahlia Trimble]]:  Hi :)
* [8:59] [[User:G2 Proto|G2 Proto]]:  hello fellow 'Nauts!
* [9:00] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]:  Hi
* [9:01] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]:  I am afraid I will have nothing but questions today... :D
* [9:01] [[User:G2 Proto|G2 Proto]]:  thats ok
* [9:01] [[User:G2 Proto|G2 Proto]]:  freeform it
* [9:02] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]:  So it looks like there were a lot of new gridnauts voyaging yesterday. Congrats to all who succeeded.
* [9:02] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]:  For those that didn't yet, go ahead and ask your questions. We have a couple veteren Gridnauts here.
* [9:03] [[User:Strawberry Fride|Strawberry Fride]]:  I managed to get into Tish's sim, but I was 100% anonymous at both ends
* [9:03] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  probs w/firewall have kept me out of our sim but I can get through others
* [9:03] [[User:Strawberry Fride|Strawberry Fride]]:  haven't tried again in a week though
* [9:03] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]:  Also, remember that there's an irc channel #gridnauts at irc.freenode.net
* [9:03] [[User:G2 Proto|G2 Proto]]:  this is a lazy question I could look it up I am sure but what is the minimum OpenSim trunk for a grid to use the OGP patch?
* [9:04] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]:  it probably works with head
* [9:04] [[User:Dahlia Trimble|Dahlia Trimble]]:  G2 it's probably best to use the version that's specified in the patch name
* [9:04] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]:  Honestly, I am a graphics guy.. I know really not much, but not a newb. I have a full region in SL and then I have a full region in OLG. so... anyways besides that... I guess I need to know what I am supposed to do to get to the other side... :D, without eating a grid bullet.
* [9:06] [[User:Dahlia Trimble|Dahlia Trimble]]:  I wanted to chenge my region to another server but I realized that people have the url's cached :/
* [9:06] [[User:G2 Proto|G2 Proto]]:  ok thanks DHalia
* [9:07] [[User:Xugu Madison|Xugu Madison]]:  Anyone know why I'd be getting "Bad Request" when trying to teleport to my region?
* [9:07] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  I'm not a network god but I'm trying to understand trouble I've been having
* [9:07] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]:  [http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Teleport_How_To]
* [9:07] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  np logging on to OpenSim directly w/standard client
* [9:07] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]:  Perefim make sure you've read all this first: [http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Open_Grid_Public_Beta]
* [9:07] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]:  (and the link Sai just sent)
* [9:07] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  but w/the OpenGrid client, can't do it
* [9:07] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]:  That way your questions will be more specific
* [9:08] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  is this b/c it goes out & back in w/opengrid and can't get through the firewall?
* [9:09] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]:  turns pale at the amount of reading.
* [9:09] [[User:Strawberry Fride|Strawberry Fride]]:  ok, my dumb question is about the claiming map locations - if we run standalone, we're not on a grid... so what grid is this for?
* [9:09] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]:  skip to the how to
* [9:09] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]:  the interoperability grid
* [9:10] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]:  they should have the3 equipment to see what is happening and open up the appropriate ports/protocols
* [9:10] [[User:Twa Hinkle|Twa Hinkle]]:  i finally used enough rooms of monkeys.. and got mine working through Vaak. one more dumb question... how do i log in direct now that my location is now not 1000 1000?
* [9:10] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]:  Strawberry, I gather this interoperability grid isn't really a grid, but the opensimulators need to thing they are part of a global coordinate system.
* [9:11] [[User:Strawberry Fride|Strawberry Fride]]:  aah, okie, that's kinda how I figured it'd work
* [9:11] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]:  I.. umm.. grids .. patches.. ports.. protocols... O.O
* [9:11] [[User:Strawberry Fride|Strawberry Fride]]:  a virtual virtual grid
* [9:11] [[User:Strawberry Fride|Strawberry Fride]]:  or something
* [9:11] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]:  O.o
* [9:11] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]:  lol
* [9:11] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  So does the protocol take you out to the "grid" and back in w/the OpenGrid login?
* [9:11] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]:  there's a fully compiled download you can use instad of a patch, by the way
* [9:11] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  even when logging directly?
* [9:11] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  we're using the one released Wed
* [9:12] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]:  I ahve a sim on the open life grid isn't that a opensim region right?
* [9:12] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  I'm also confused about terminology OpenGrid vs OpenSim?
* [9:13] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  I've got our OpenSim hosted on the machine behind me in my office
* [9:13] [[User:Dahlia Trimble|Dahlia Trimble]]:  Opensim is the software
* [9:13] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  right, but there's a diff version for the grid, or not?
* [9:13] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  only a diff viewer?
* [9:13] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]:  hehe
* [9:13] [[User:Dahlia Trimble|Dahlia Trimble]]:  there is a differevt vversion
* [9:13] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  (Originally trained as a tech writer for computer documentation, so trying to understand)
* [9:13] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]:  "Open Grid" is the protocols being developed
* [9:14] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]:  Open Grid refers to what we are doing now. Interoperability
* [9:14] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  right, THAT'S what I want to understand
* [9:14] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]:  to allow other VW's to interoop
* [9:14] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]:  mmm seems i need this beta viewer thingy
* [9:14] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  the protocols
* [9:14] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]:  can I get the link for downloading the beta viewer please.
* [9:14] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]:  OGP
* [9:14] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]:  Opensim is the name of the open sourced simulators
* [9:14] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  If I try to login w/OpenGrid protocol, does it go outside our firewall & then back in?
* [9:14] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  to get into our OpenSim?
* [9:14] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]:  yes
* [9:14] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  b/c w/the standard viewer, we could login directly w/no problem using the IP
* [9:15] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]:  you authenticate agains the LL servers
* [9:15] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  OK, THANK YOU
* [9:15] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]:  you login to a SL beta grid and then TP to your open sim
* [9:15] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]:  perefim -- it's in the doco
* [9:15] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  I have been able to to the tp thing from home
* [9:15] [[User:Xugu Madison|Xugu Madison]]:  who can I prod to go "Help, this doesn't work"?
* [9:15] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]:  what is a doco?
* [9:15] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]:  the regions accept LL authentication and allow you in
* [9:15] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  but not @ work, so this pretty much proves I need the 9000 UDP port opened in firewall
* [9:15] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]:  yes
* [9:15] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  Yeah, I have done it but not from here on campus
* [9:15] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  v frustrating
* [9:15] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]:  There is a gridnauts gorup and the #gridnauts irc
* [9:16] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]:  and a mailing list
* [9:16] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  yes, they were v kind to me yesterday w/all my questions/probs :)
* [9:16] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  yes, on that too
* [9:16] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]:  ask the network admins to monitor the traffic
* [9:16] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  as in, if they open the port?
* [9:16] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]:  and open up the ports/protocols you need
* [9:16] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  I've told them what I need
* [9:16] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  we can do the TCP port ourselves
* [9:16] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]:  DOn't feel bad about that last. I'm hazy on that one too
* [9:17] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  so now it's just wait
* [9:17] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]:  still haven't done TP without completely disabling the firewall for the duration
* [9:17] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]:  you have TCP, that's why you can see the Hippos stuff
* [9:17] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  Like many other things, the whole experience has been very painfully-reinforced learning the hard way
* [9:17] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  Yes, makes sense
* [9:17] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  ty
* [9:17] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]:  "Bleeding Edge"
* [9:17] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  for exp
* [9:18] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  Oh is THAT what that means?! Right!
* [9:18] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]:  lol, maybe whump needs a medic-bear
* [9:18] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  What is the deal w/the bears?
* [9:18] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]:  a bandage wraped around its head
* [9:18] [[User:G2 Proto|G2 Proto]]:  its not called the "Pillow-Edge" for a reason
* [9:18] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]:  sling
* [9:18] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  everyone asks for them but I found no orig offer
* [9:18] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]:  cast on leg
* [9:18] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]:  portable IV
* [9:18] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]:  Whump is giving out these special "collectors" Linden bears to successful gridnauts
* [9:19] [[User:G2 Proto|G2 Proto]]:  ok i have to get that asap
* [9:19] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]:  i put up a couple of jiras related to viewr crashes/appearance
* [9:19] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  does it qualify if you can tp but not to your own Sim?
* [9:19] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]:  you get a bear if you document your trip to an opensim with the beta viewer
* [9:19] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]:  not sure
* [9:19] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  I did that on the list
* [9:19] [[User:Strawberry Fride|Strawberry Fride]]:  I'll have another go this weekend
* [9:19] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]:  some of it is related to ghosting
* [9:19] [[User:G2 Proto|G2 Proto]]:  will where do we send it? whumpville?
* [9:19] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]:  I don't know. Best to ask Whump upon his return Monday.
* [9:19] [[User:G2 Proto|G2 Proto]]:  k
* [9:20] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]:  I imagine that the details are "in the wiki".
* [9:20] [[User:Dahlia Trimble|Dahlia Trimble]]:  he has a lot of bears to give out
* [9:20] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]:  also put a note on the jira how-to, asking folks to make links to the umbrella issue
* [9:20] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]:  well the how to page suggests its any sim, not just your own, but don't hold me to that
* [9:21] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]:  we want them in the OGP grid too
* [9:21] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]:  grins
* [9:21] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  we want to be there . . .
* [9:23] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]:  Well, the dev team is working on the submitted issues. I haven't had a chance to check in with tess or leyla today to see about progress
* [9:23] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]:  Our huddle isn't for another hour and a half.
* [9:24] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]:  whats a huddle
* [9:24] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]:  :D
* [9:24] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]:  speaking of that, the Enus linden office hours for PyOGP is at 9:30 if anyone is a Python programmer
* [9:24] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]:  But on Monday's huddle we'll prolly go over the outstanding issues.
* [9:24] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]:  any last questions today?
* [9:24] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]:  yes
* [9:24] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]:  got one
* [9:24] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]:  :D
* [9:25] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]:  if we are a gridnaught member on this then shoudln't we be one on aditi... cough beta viewer
* [9:25] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]:  you have to log into aditi with the regular viewer and acept the invitation to the group
* [9:26] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]:  kk
* [9:26] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]:  perefim, yes, you should join the group on aditi as well
* [9:26] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]:  allright.
* [9:26] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]:  Sai is always faster...
* [9:26] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]:  then you can get into the open grid with the beta viewr
* [9:26] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]:  fastest spammer in the World
* [9:26] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]:  :-)
* [9:26] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]:  Ok everyone. Have a great weekend. Don't reveal the location of Homeworld.
* [9:27] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]:  homeworld...
* [9:27] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  ty
* [9:27] [[User:Twa Hinkle|Twa Hinkle]]:  i just crashed on dahlia's sim.. i was in two places at once.. hmm.. not good
* [9:27] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]:  I'll post thie transcript on the wiki, Peri, unless you want to
* [9:27] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]:  go ahead, Sai, thx
* [9:27] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]:  and now, heading to the Pyogp/Enus office hours meeting
* [9:27] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]:  Pyogp huddle for all you pythoners
* [9:27] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]:  cheers all
* [9:27] [[User:Strawberry Fride|Strawberry Fride]]:  meetings, meetings!
* [9:28] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]:  bye!
* [9:28] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]:  take care
* [9:28] [[User:Strawberry Fride|Strawberry Fride]]:  enjoy the snakes
* [9:28] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]:  OH, and IM me if you're interestied in helping design the new protocols. I do group invites for AW Groupies, the inworld group for the AWG
* [9:29] [[User:Dahlia Trimble|Dahlia Trimble]]:  bye all :)


[[Category: Grid Interoperability Chat Logs]]
[[Category: AW Groupies Transcripts]]
[[Category: Pyogp Transcripts]]

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