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== General Portal Organization ==
Welcome to the [[Help Portal]]'s suggestions page !
 
* Portal's documentation (categories&templates) can be found [[Talk:Help Portal/Doc|here]].
Help is organized through several categories:
* Previous discutions can be found here [[Talk:Help Portal/Archive 1|Archive 1]] (Portal creation discution)
*[[:Category:Bug Fixes]] for bugs related articles.
*[[:Category:Help/Avatar]] for Avatar related articles.
*[[:Category:Help/Object]] for Object related articles.
*[[:Category:Help/Viewer]] for Viewer related articles.
*[[:Category:Help/Communication]] for Communication related articles.
*[[:Category:Help/Multimedia]] for Multimedia related articles.
*[[:Category:Help/Land]] for Land&Sim related articles.
*[[:Category:Help/Community]] for Community related articles.
*[[:Category:Help/Navigation]] for Navigation related articles.
*[[:Category:Help/Wiki]] for Wiki related articles.
*[[:Category:Glossary]] for Glossary related articles.
*[[:Category:Help/Misc]] for other articles.
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Ideas :
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Other categories can be created (if needed):
== How to add suggestions==
*[[:Category:Help/Linden Lab]].
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*[[:Category:Help/Hardware]].
If you want to leave a comment / start a discussion about the [[Help Portal]], please operate as follows:
*[[:Category:Help/Money]]
* Press the '''edit''' button on top of the page.
* Scroll down and start a '''new topic''' using: <nowiki>== Name of the topic ==</nowiki>
* Write your questions/suggestions and '''sign it''' with four tildes: <tt><big><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></big></tt> (or the signature button [[Image:Button_sig.png]]). These will automatically be converted into your username and a timestamp.
* Preview the page and save it if you're comfortable with it.
* If you want to answer to a persons posting you can scroll behind the posting, hit enter to start a new line and begin it with a colon (:). It will be displayed as an intended line then.
* If you want to answer to an answer, please write multiple colons in the beginning of the line.
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<strike>We could also link all help categories to [[:Category:Help Portal]] ? </strike> done =)
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== Templates ==
== New Contents ==
 
8 templates have been created:
# [[Template:Help Header]] : Header with links to the help categories of the portal.
# [[Template:Help]] : Define categories for all help pages.
# [[Template:Help/Disclaimer]]  : Disclaimer for critical content.
# [[Template:Help/Old Info]]  : Warning box for out-of-date content.
# [[Template:TVT]] : Template to include Vid Tuts (design not finsihed but content running)
# [[Template:VT Header]] : Header with links to different Vid Tut categories-
# [[Template:VT Classics Warning]] : Warning box for old Vid Tuts
# [[Template:Main Page/Help]] : Template for main page => feel free to update it :)
 
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* Documentation must be written about new templates utilization. (in progress)
*<strike> Add an "out of date" tag based on [[Template:Old-info]]</strike>
== Contents ==
* Several pages must be converted into categories (and pages) :  
* Several pages must be converted into categories (and pages) :  
** [[Help:Second_Life_FAQ]] (all pages created - [[Help:Second_Life_FAQ]] must be edit with link to new pages)
** [[User:Lum_Pfohl/Troubleshooting]]
** User:Lum_Pfohl/Troubleshooting  
***a lots of interesting information, I will ask Lum if she's ok.
***a lots of interesting information, I will ask Lum if she's ok.
****asked Lum and she's happy to provide her content in order to support this project =)
****asked Lum and she's happy to provide her content in order to support this project =) (Zai Lynch)
* All help pages must be updated with help template
* All "help:xxxxxx" pages must be converted into normal pages
* Each video tutorial must have its own page (to be easily found with categories) (read Vidtut section)
* I added "suggestion box" in the portal: What is its goal and how to organise this page?
** I propose to reserved this page for subject not found in the help portal and suggestion on Help Portal organisation (new categories, etc) => could it be the portal's discussion page?
* + "Resident oriented" Quickie Wiki Intro see discussion point below.
 
== [[Glossary]] ==


Several names pages have already been used (often for Open Source portal).
We will apply the following rules (tks Zai!):
* Technical pages will be moved towards "NAME_AWG (or NAME/AWG)
* Links will be updated (with the special page "what links here")
* Special message will be included in these pages "In case you're looking for the AWG page related to "NAME", please browse to [[NAME AWG]]"
NB: Currently, the SL’[[Glossary]] page includes more than 200 words !
== Video tutorials ==
Torley's video tutorials must be easy to find. There are ~160 videos (40 TotW + 120 quicktips). Put these videos into portal's categories is probably the hardest part.
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[[User:Zai Lynch|Zai]] & [[User:Kuraiko Yoshikawa|Kuraiko]] are working on specific template for video tutorial, each video will have its own pages.
Name scheme will probably be NAME_VT. Each page will be sort through several categories:
* Video tutorials categories:
** Video tutorials
*** Video tutorials/Quictips
*** Video tutorials/Tip of the Week
*** Video tutorials/Basics
*** Video tutorials/Classics
* Help Portal categories.
** Help/Avatar, Help/Object, etc.
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Torley Linden's categories (avatar, control, build, etc) won't be created (too many cat), we will only use portal's cats.
I contacted Torley, he is okey for new vidtuts organisation through multiple pages but he warned me that in longer-term, he hopes "that the current [http://secondlife.com/video http://secondlife.com/video] page will be faded/deprecated by an improved Showcase with videos". Currently, adding new video is very time consuming, we must try to make the new template simple to use :)
== Proofread ==
My English is not "perfect", big proofread will be necessary.
== Go live ==
Once finished, we need to:
* <strike>Move [[User:Gally Young/help portal]] to [[Help Portal]]</strike>
* <strike>Add [[Help Portal]] to [[:Category:Portals]]</strike>
* <strike>Redirect [[Help]] to [[Help Portal]]</strike>
* <strike>Move this page to the suggestion box spot (or talk page from [[Help Portal]]</strike>
* <strike>Fix the link in the [[Template:Help Header]]</strike>
* <strike>Make a [[Template:Main Page/Help]] for inclusion in the [[Main Page]].</strike>
* Ask a Wiki Admin to include the template in the [[Main Page]] (would suggest [[User:Torley Linden|Torley]], [[User:Rob Linden|Rob]] or [[User:Lexie Linden|Lexie]])
== Discussions ==
{{footnotes}}
=== Whew... ===
Neato o.O I had the same in mind after Jason Maynard stopped the work on [[User:Jaszon_Maynard/Proposed_Second_Life_Help_Portal|his portal]]. So I just made some notes four days ago ([http://wiki.zeitenwerk.de/index.php/KaZ_H%26I_Portal_Organisation_Project ping]) but looks like you were faster ^^. Great work!<br>
Greetz, [[Image:Zai_signature.png|45px]] '''[[User:Zai Lynch|Lynch]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]])</small></sup> 21:39, 2 August 2008 (PDT)
:P.S.: Two other things I had in mind which could improve such a Portal:
:*Having a Help Portal header like the [[Template:LSL_Header|LSL Header]]. This would link to the different help categories. It could also have an inbuild [[Template:Multi-lang]] already and work like [[Template:Visl]] to register the pages to different help categories. But that's optional.
:*Turning the [[Help:Second Life FAQ|Second Life FAQ]] and the [[Glossary]] into categories.
:Last thing would be, to finally move all Second Life related help articles out of the Help: namespace (which is filtered from the Wiki search by default), reserving the Help: namespace just for Wiki related help.
:Greetz, [[Image:Zai_signature.png|45px]] '''[[User:Zai Lynch|Lynch]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]])</small></sup> 21:59, 2 August 2008 (PDT)
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Thanks Zai ;) <br/>
I read your note (but my german is far behind me (some points weren't clear for me), I will try again later ^^ )<br/>
thanks for you very good ideas, I put them on the "To do list". I'm also searching a better way to find video tutorials.
To organise the portal, I have created/used the following categories :
:*[[:Category:Help/Avatar|Help/Avatar]]
:*[[:Category:Help/Object|Help/Object]]
:*[[:Category:Help/Land|Help/Land]]
:*[[:Category:Help/Community|Help/Community]]
:*[[:Category:Help/Viewer|Help/Viewer]]
:*[[:Category:Help/Communication|Help/Communication]]
:*[[:Category:Help/Multimedia|Help/Multimedia]]
:*[[:Category:Help/Navigation|Help/Navigation]]
:*[[:Category:Help/Misc|Help/Misc]]
:*[[:Category:Bug Fixes|Bug Fixes]]
I have updated the "To do list" :)<br/>
[[User:Gally Young|Gally Young]] 02:04, 3 August 2008 (PDT)
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: Oh hehe. Yuss, parts are in German ^_^ but it's all just weird drafts anyway and even [[User:Kuraiko Yoshikawa|Kuraiko]] (who's sandbox it is) had trouble understanding them although he's native in German. I compared the stuff i noted with the things you've done already and the things I suggested in the previouse comment so only things "missing" which are on my list: another help category for Wiki help (having [[Help:Contents]], [[Quickie Wiki Intro|QWI I]] & [[Quickie Wiki Intro Part II|QWI II]] as well as a link to the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Contents MediaWiki Help:Contents], to the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:ParserFunctions parser functions] and maybe Torley's new site about Wiki myths). I also had one tiny box in mind, placed on the portal with some text like "Help us to help you" where people are invited to contribute. To leave feedback on what they were missing on articles at related discussion pages, or to improve the articles content on their own and such. So many will believe this is a static or LL obtained Wiki and don't realize that they can help improving it.
:Sorting the [[Video Tutorials]] is kinda a challange. The [http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=Torley&p=r YouTube Channel] states it's currently 315 videos. Having them all on a seperate page might result in colliding article names so another name scheme might help. Like NAME_(VT). Could then have a video tutorial category with subcategories for different topics (and also link the tuts to the related help categories of course).
:Re:Glossary: yuss, most of the parts are really small... I'm not quite sure how to handle it well. Some of the others are small in the glossary but got seperate pages describing them (like [[Landmark]]s or [[Map]] - had them added to [[:Category:Glossary]] earlier). Then there is common online lingo mixed in which could be filtered and linked to a relating wiktionary article instead. Like: "If you're looking for internet lingo, please browse [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Internet_slang here]." I'll poke my head on some more ideas, how to address this problem... Need to run now since I'm already late (^_^)°
:Keep up the great work, it's so exhilarant to watch it grow!
:Cyas, [[Image:Zai_signature.png|45px]] '''[[User:Zai Lynch|Lynch]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]])</small></sup> 06:02, 3 August 2008 (PDT)
::P.S.: I got an idea for a neat melony lookin' VidTut template. Plz gimme up to three days to implement. I dunno how swamped I am in the upcomin' days but will try to hurry (^_^)
::--[[Image:Zai_signature.png|45px]] '''[[User:Zai Lynch|Lynch]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]])</small></sup> 09:53, 3 August 2008 (PDT)
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:::I update the "To do list" with your comments, tks Zai:)
:::*Your "Wiki help" category is a very good idea, I'm going to check if something has ever been done  (or create it).
:::*We can indeed add "suggestion box" to the portal, I add it to the To do list, a nice picture would be usefull :)
:::*Your [[:category:Glossary]] is also very interesting. For short text, we could use special name scheme (Glossary/NAME ?)
:::*About video tutorials :
:::**I count : 116 quicktips & 44 TotW => 160 pages...
:::**For name scheme, we can use special name tag (video_tutorials/NAME, NAME_VT => not sure which one is the best...)
:::**Vidtut need "vidtuts categories" & "help categories" and template must propose all these cat.
:::**We must also keep in mind that in some case vidtut pages will become "real" help pages (with text for advanced informations). So I suppose [[template:vidtut|vidtut template]] must be call by [[template:help|help template]] (I let you see which solution is better)[[User:Gally Young|Gally Young]] 11:32, 3 August 2008 (PDT)


== Translations ==
I think we can start preparing stuff for translations. Like moving the French and German translations of the FAQ and Glossary (since these are the ones we're able to understand). I'm just trying to fix [[Template:Help/de]] in a way that it becomes usable for the new [[Project:Languages]] criteria. Will ask [[User:Asuka Neely|Asuka]] again and then rewrite the article. See [[Project:I18n/native feature migration]]. We don't really need the native feature to do that yet. See [[Project talk:I18n/native feature migration#Bridging the gap until implementation]]. The feature is already implemented in [[Template:Multi-lang]] (I was just to blind to recognize). The [[Template:Help/de]] works as intended in the [http://wiki.zeitenwerk.de/index.php/Template:Help/de sandbox] but refuses to work in here (since it's an older mediawiki version...). I'll need to spend more time on thinking how to fix it... So all articles should have names in the articles language to be usable for people. Same for categories. NAME/fr and NAME/de would just be used for redirects or in case of colliding names (like anywhere in the LSL Portal. So LSL stays as is.) I need some sleep now... ^_^<br>
Greetz, [[Image:Zai_signature.png|45px]] '''[[User:Zai Lynch|Lynch]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]])</small></sup> 23:02, 18 August 2008 (PDT)


::::@suggestion box picture: oh yeah! problem with pics is, that you can't use em for links atm :-( which is really sad. could create wiki pages way more colorful and interesting if {{Jira|WEB-732}} would be implemented. Btw: Having the five latest blog posts at the portal (or the main page) would be neat too -> {{Jira|WEB-590}}.
::::But even with the limited resources now we could try to add some color like kuraiko did in [[User:Kuraiko Yoshikawa|his porfile]].
::::@resident orientated QWI: I wrote the mentioned explanation about discussion pages [[Quickie_Wiki_Intro_Part_II#Discussion_Pages|here at QWI II]]. But I agree... we might restructure the QWIs... Since the template stuff is very much for the beginning and also mostly mentor focused.
::::@vidtut: oh might be that he got some unrelated stuff in his youtube channel too... I also thought about having it as subpages of the video tutorials page but it wouldn't look as nice later in the category links. the article names might become long and would be even longer with "Video Tutorials/" in front of every name. so I would like it better when we would go with one of the other solutions but I'm flexible.
::::I aggree that every vid tut page should have the template header and categories too. But I think we can have seperate pages with the vid tuts as their only content (+ categories + header). However, other articles can of course video tutorials too. for example: having a vid tut about "texture creation" could be stored as "Texture Creation VT" (or "Video Tutorials/Texture Creation" or ...). there could be an additional article called "texture creation" which has the video tut in it as well but which wouldn't be included in the vid tut category. so having a space with "related articles" in the vid tut template would be best I guess... I'll think about it more.
::::@glossary: not yet sure how to make it but can go ahead with the Glossary/Name sheme if you like =) or just turn the glossary category into a page. like the [[:Category:LSL Integer]] explains the integer type and also is a category with integer related articles.
::::Well... need to get some sleep now ^_^ been an exhausting day. greetz :-)
::::[[Image:Zai_signature.png|45px]] '''[[User:Zai Lynch|Lynch]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]])</small></sup> 17:12, 3 August 2008 (PDT)


== Teen Section ==
I was wondering if Teen Second Life could have a section on the Help Portal with TSL links etc?. For example TSL Volunteers Portal, TSL FAQ and along with my TSL wiki page.


:::::Thanks for your personal investment Zai, and thanks also to Kuraiko for his hard work on vidtut template :) I have added new "Go live" section in the to-do-list (and put your comments inside) and create QWI, glossary & Go live section in discussions (and moved our last discussions in these sections). I’m almost ready for glossary (need to clearly identify & move AWG pages before starting pages creation, my goal is to finish glossary before/during the next we). I have also added comments about vidtuts.
[[User:Daniel Voyager|Daniel Voyager]] [5:24], 30th August 2008 (PDT)


=== Vid Tut Cats ===
:It seems a good idea! ^^
I just had a look at the keywords Torley tagged his videos with. So far, I got the categories "video tutorials", "basics", "classics", "tip of the week" and "quicktips" + the help categories you created. Using the tags of Torley too would mean we'd have to make categories for all of the following: explore, video, control, tech, external tool, script, build, avatar, audio, social, group, land, web, performance, search, inventory, shop, script, basic, snapshot. I'm not yet sure if it's an improvement or not.
:[[Teen_Second_Life|This FAQ]] is already available in the misc section but maybe a dedicated section in "1st step" or "advanced help" would be better if you have more links ^^. Don't forget to add the [[Template:Help|Help template]] in your pages. [[User:Gally Young|Gally Young]] 05:09, 31 August 2008 (PDT)
It might be better to turn the [[Video Tutorials/Quicktips]] (for example) into [[:Category:Video Tutorials/Quicktips]] as is, changing the external links into internal ones to the connected page. This way it could keep it's tags without cluttering the pages with too many categories. I think the other way might just ask too much of the visitors... [[Image:Zai_signature.png|45px]] '''[[User:Zai Lynch|Lynch]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]])</small></sup> 13:12, 4 August 2008 (PDT)
:Hmm... or even redirect [[:Category:Video Tutorials/Quicktips]] to [[Video Tutorials/Quicktips]] since Torley obtains them by hand to have them tagged. Hmm... Hard nut (^_^)
:[[Image:Zai_signature.png|45px]] '''[[User:Zai Lynch|Lynch]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]])</small></sup> 13:20, 4 August 2008 (PDT)
::I haven't noticed there was so many sub-categories. Ok, if necessary sub-cat can be add later ^^. Besides, I think redirecting [[Video Tutorials/Quicktips]] toward [[:Category:Video Tutorials/Quicktips]] is better, but we must merge the [[Video Tutorials/Quicktips]]'s table in the [[:Category:Video Tutorials/Quicktips]] page. <br/>[[User:Gally Young|Gally Young]] 13:33, 4 August 2008 (PDT)
:::The torley vid tut template is almost done. Content is ready, just style is still changing. Furthermore got some changes in the style of the help header. Have a look [http://wiki.zeitenwerk.de/index.php/User:Zai_Lynch/Sandbox/helpheadertest here]. The disclaimer box is includeable for articles with "critical" content. Like prices for islands or such. Video tutorial test is [http://wiki.zeitenwerk.de/index.php/User:Zai_Lynch/VT_Test here] but the template as such isn't done yet. needs more crazyness around the video. But [[User:Kuraiko Yoshikawa|Kuraiko]] is investigating. All templates we changed are listet [http://wiki.zeitenwerk.de/index.php/KaZ_Video_Tutorial here]. Guess it ''might'' be ready to implement tomorrow. I hope... Will need to add some documentation and such too. Just wanted to update you so you don't think we're all lazy ^_^
:::Greetz! [[Image:Zai_signature.png|45px]] '''[[User:Zai Lynch|Lynch]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]])</small></sup> 18:04, 5 August 2008 (PDT)
:::P.S.: Wrote some comments in footnotes to some other ideas. Please scroll up =)
:::: ''Friendly greetings Gally and Zai!'' 'Tis I. Great to see this energetic discussion and '''thanks for helping to categorize my [[Video Tutorials]], making them easier to find — that's what counts.''' Expanding on what Gally noted above, we have plans to make video tutorials more searchable from http://secondlife.com/showcase based on VodPod's API which would ''not'' be part of the wiki system, but hopefully be easier for new Resis and older ones alike to navigate. Those "What's it about?" tags are placeholders for future categorization, laying the groundwork for the VodPod collection I'll setup eventually. (The current YouTube widget in the Showcase is very limited and just has... a long list of vids.)
:::: Just wanted to give you this heads-up so '''you don't waste time on work that is planned to be deprecated''' in due time anyway; your contributions are rockin' on! Another thing I should share is I'm working with our Documentation Team to embed more videos in the [https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417 Knowledge Base], and for the effective purposes of that medium, they'll indicate notes when some stuff is out-of-date. '''I look forward to seeing continued development on your vidtut template.''' Yayzerama indeed. <font color="#ff0080">''' -[[Image:Torley-favicon.png]] [[User:Torley Linden|Torley]] on 2008-08-06 @ 10:55 AM PST'''</font>
:::::*Hi Torley! I'm very pleased to read you here ^^.
:::::**It's difficult (for me ^^) to imagine help portal without vidtut fully integrated into help categories... but it's also hard de measure work needed to update wiki, maybe [[User:Zai Lynch|Zai]]&[[User:Kuraiko_Yoshikawa|Kuraiko]] will have a more accurate point of view than me...
:::::*Zai,you have done a very good job on vidtut (I looked at your wiki sandbox!) You have even succeed to organise vidtut page(contributor, note, etc), we could do the same for help page (contributor, interesting links, notes, etc) :)
:::::**For the "Help Header", I think it is maybe too long (for example for small screen/window), we could split it into two lines? Add border&color to the "help header" is a very good idea (I tried to do it yesterday !)
:::::**For the "watermelon-warning box" ^^, I would inverse color (border=red and center=green), (I found black on red not easy to read) - but otherwise it’s already good as it is :)
:::::**Very nice job on template documentation! I add this point to the list (even if the job is almost done :))
:::::**We could merge help and TVT templates. New categories can be added later and it will be simpler to add them in only one template :)
:::::***Besides, what about adding an "out of date" tag in help template ? (some wiki-pages/vidtut are old) It could help us to find article in need of updates, I was also thinking about a "help pages" category which include ALL help pages available in the wiki...[[User:Gally Young|Gally Young]] 13:51, 6 August 2008 (PDT)
::::::Heyas and welcome to our comfy lil discussion page (^_^)
::::::I wouldn't call the work "wasted" '''in case''' we are allowed to store the Vid Tuts on the Wiki even after the shift to the KB. I for myself am not a big fan of the KB so wouldn't have found videos there. I can Imagine that some like the KB better then the Wiki so for them the KB would be the right spot. Having them in both places can only be a benefit for Resident enlightment. And that should be our big goal with this. Maintaining the Vid Tuts once we worked through the large backlog should be managable and quite easy. So we can keep them up-to-date over here while you have an eye on the KB.
::::::@Template changing: The TVT template doesn't contain a contributor but yeah it has notes and links. I made it since I thought there would be a limited amount of "advanced" Wiki users (Torley, Kuraiko, you and me and maybe someone else who's willing to help) who works with it. So we all know how to use a template. "Basic" users might be scared of templates. Even the normal Wiki syntax might confuse them and they will be looking for a possibility to just write a help article like they'd do that in their ''office suit'' without some weird syntax. Having a template will unify the look of pages but might scare of potential contributors who don't want to be bothered with templates. So I'm not sure if we should include it. The reason why it works in the LSL Portal might be, that it's just scripters who are contributing and those are familiar with weird looking syntax. Even many of those are scared of from the complex templates. So I think we should keep the use of them as low as possible. But can implement it of course since it's quite easy to do. I'm not sure if we should tho
::::::@Help Header: [[User:Kuraiko Yoshikawa|Kuraiko]] just made the help header [http://picpaste.de/pics/Bildschirmfoto-Bearbeiten_von_Template_Help_Header_-_Vorschau_-_Second_Life_Wiki_-_Mozilla_Firefox.1218079202.png squeezable] so that solves the problem I hope ^^
::::::@warning box: I'm not sure if black on green is much easier so black on the bright pink looks quite good on my screen. We just changed it to have bold text. Did that increase readablility?
::::::@Documentation: I added some more before I moved them all to the SL Wiki (yuss, we got em here now ^^). So can have a look and add more info where you find em useful.
::::::merging: [[Template:TVT]] currently uses [[Template:Help]]. I would refrain from a total merge since it would make [[Template:Help]] harder to use (see reason above). But new categories can easily be added so just poke me to it when you need new ones there and run into trouble.
::::::@out-of-date: This is a good idea! There is a [[Template:Old-info]] but it could look better. It registers pages to a category named [[:Category:Articles in need of updating]]. We can implement it to [[Template:Help]] instead with a nice warning box on top and maybe additional info field where people can write what's not up-to-date. Will have a look at it.
::::::@category for all help pages: [[:Category:Help Portal|done]]. It's automatically added once someone adds the [[Template:Help Header]] (or any template using this template, like template help or template tvt.
::::::Wanna add that this project is a lot of fun! =) Rly glad you started it.
::::::Also commented on some of the other topics.
::::::Greetz! --[[Image:Zai_signature.png|45px]] '''[[User:Zai Lynch|Lynch]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]])</small></sup> 22:28, 6 August 2008 (PDT)




::::::I'm impressed by all the changements (I read the "recent changes" page). I'm very happy to see people as excited as I am :)
==Sub category ==
::::::@Vidtut : I'm also under the same impression. The first step is the harder, the weekly update wouldn't be too difficult. The portal give link to KB and video tutorials main page and people searching vidtut can choose to go directly on these sites, for the others having all help ressources in the same place would be a real benefits :)
The portal has quickly grown ^^
::::::@Template changing:it's a good remaks about the merge, basic user must be able to use them (at the beginning, I was really scared by [[template:LSL Function]]) :)))
I think sub cat are needed in order to simplify the navigation.
::::::@Wooow the [http://picpaste.de/pics/Bildschirmfoto-Bearbeiten_von_Template_Help_Header_-_Vorschau_-_Second_Life_Wiki_-_Mozilla_Firefox.1218079202.png squeezable] option was excactly what I mean, thanks [[User:Kuraiko Yoshikawa|Kuraiko]]!
I propose the following sub cats :
::::::@out-of-date:I add this point to the to do list
*'''[[:Category:Help/Avatar]]''' :
::::::@I'm even more motivated by seeing others work as hard as [[User:Zai Lynch|You]] and [[User:Kuraiko Yoshikawa|Kuraiko]] have done it, and I'm sure the portal will be a success ^^
**[[:Category:Help/Appareance]]
::::::[[User:Gally Young|Gally Young]] 23:47, 6 August 2008 (PDT)
**[[:Category:Help/Inventory]]
**[[:Category:Help/Animation]]
**[[:Category:Help/Profil]]
*'''[[:Category:Help/Object]]''' :
**[[:Category:Help/Sculpted prim]] redirect => [[:Category:Sculpted Prims]]
**[[:Category:Help/Inventory]]
**[[:Category:Help/Animation]]
**[[:Category:Help/Attachments]]
*'''[[:Category:Help/Creation]]''' (NEW CAT ^^):
**[[:Category:Help/Scripting]]
**[[:Category:Help/Building]]
**[[:Category:Help/Texturing]]
**[[:Category:Help/Skinning]] redirect =>[[:Category:Skinning]]
**[[:Category:Help/Animation]]
**[[:Category:Help/Machimina]]
**[[:Category:Help/Snapshot]]
*'''[[:Category:Help/Multimedia]]''' : 
**[[:Category:Help/Machimina]]
**[[:Category:Help/Voice]] redurect => [[:Category:Voice]]
**[[:Category:Help/Parcel Media]]
**[[:Category:Help/Snapshot]]
*''' [[:Category:Help/Communication]]''' :
**[[:Category:Help/Voice]]
**[[:Category:Help/Gesture]]
**[[:Category:Help/Chat]]
*'''[[:Category:Help/Community]]''' :
**[[:Category:Help/Group]]
**[[:Category:Help/Profil]]
**[[:Category:Help/Friends]]
**[[:Category:Help/Griefing]]
*'''[[:Category:Help/Navigation]]''' :
**[[:Category:Help/Spacenavigator]]
**[[:Category:Help/Teleporting]]
**[[:Category:Help/Movements]]
**[[:Category:Help/Camera]]
*'''[[:Category:Help/Land]]''' :
**[[:Category:Help/Parcel]]
**[[:Category:Help/Simulator]]
*'''[[:Category:Help/Viewer]]''' :
**[[:Category:Help/Lag]]
**[[:Category:Help/Skinning]] redirect =>[[:Category:Skinning]]
**[[:Category:Help/Preferences]]
**[[:Category:Help/Advanced Menu]]
**[[:Category:Help/Pie menu]]
**[[:Category:Help/Spacenavigator]]
*'''[[:Category:Bug Fixes]]''' :
**[[:Category:Help/Linux]]
**[[:Category:Help/Mac]]
**[[:Category:Help/Lag]]
[[User:Gally Young|Gally Young]] 14:56, 3 September 2008 (PDT)
:Heyas Gally! =)
:Hmm... I can see that the categories grew and that further sorting might be(come) useful. But I'm not yet sure about how to manage that many. Should we provide them all in the [[Template:Help]]? The full spec would become really long and hard(er) to use. While having a sub-template for each of the main categories might not be an improvement either... What would be your suggestion? Having it as part of the help template, as extra-template or categorize by hand? Or maybe we can strip some down... I mean: How many articles about the "Space Navigator" do we expect? I'm not sure if it deserves an own category then. Same with "Groups" for example. I think another way to reduce the category cluttering could be, to start with merging related articles. This is useful as long as an article is still small. I'd rather want to have one long and detailed article describing a variety of aspects related to one subject than having 10 micro articles. So searching and merging related articles should be one of our goals too. I just added the [[Help:Open Wiki Tasks]] page to address this problem. (Btw: great sorting with the "Bug Fixes" SubCats "Linux", "Mac" and "Lag", implying that "Windows" = "Lag". I had a great laugh reading that and think you are right (^_^); )
:Greetz, [[Image:Zai_signature.png|45px]] '''[[User:Zai Lynch|Lynch]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]])</small></sup> 23:42, 5 September 2008 (PDT)
::#Define a sub-category parameter
::#Use <nowiki>{{#switch}}</nowiki> to swap out another row of links/another table below the main one.
::[[User:SignpostMarv Martin|SignpostMarv Martin]] 07:58, 7 September 2008 (PDT)
:::Ok I'm going to make a more detailed list of articles for each sub cats (The Help Portal contains [[:Category:Help Portal|+600 articles]] (o_O).  
:::I think some sub categories are really needed (ex : [[:Category:Help/Creation]] because we need a dedicated cat for tutorials (this cat could be also used for the [[Creation Portal]]))
:::After a quick analysis, for "group" I have found:
:::*[[Deeding land to groups]]
:::*[[Video Tutorial/Changing your group title]]
:::*[[Video Tutorial/Creating & joining a group]]
:::*[[Video Tutorial/Hiding groups you belong to]]
:::*[[Video Tutorial/How to create and join a group]]
:::*[[Video Tutorial/Let friends & groups edit your objects]]
:::*[[Video Tutorial/Setting objects to group]]
:::*[[Video Tutorial/What is a group liability?]]
:::*[[What are those words above names]]
:::And for Spacenavigator :
:::*[[SpaceNavigator]]
:::*[[Video Tutorial/SpaceNavigator/Advanced customization]]
:::*[[Video Tutorial/SpaceNavigator/Avatar, Flycam, & Build modes]]
:::*[[Video Tutorial/SpaceNavigator/Getting started]]
:::*[[Video Tutorial/SpaceNavigator/Summary, buttons, & more tips]]
:::Mmmmmm for spacenavigator we can merge all pages in [[SpaceNavigator]] and remove vidtut from [[:Category:Help/Viewer]], for groups, I have the feeling that a dedicated sub category with marv's tips would be usefull (because subjets are very differents and they will be easier to find with their own page)...
:::[[User:Gally Young|Gally Young]] 14:58, 8 September 2008 (PDT)
::::My 1st analyse is ended and is available here : [[Talk:Help Portal/New Organisation]]. I have been mainly concentrated to how merge pages I will add my comments about new categories later. I have to sleep now ^^ [[User:Gally Young|Gally Young]] 16:35, 13 September 2008 (PDT)
:::::WOW o.O I can only imagine how long that took... It's quite impressing! I added it to [[Help:Open Wiki Tasks]] too, so others might stumble upon it as well (I hope). @Video Tutorials: Would we keep the 1 page per VidTut rule and just add the links of the VidTuts to the article and remove the help cat from the VidTut page to not clutter the category? Or would we add the videos to the article instead? For groups, this would be 7 videos by now. So I don't know how it effects weak computers to load all these information. I experienced that it's for example hard to load some MySpace pages because of lots of media (pictures and videos) added to the page. But on the other hand, PCs which are able to handle SL might also be able to handle a page with much content on it... [[Image:Zai_signature.png|45px]] '''[[User:Zai Lynch|Lynch]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]])</small></sup> 04:03, 14 September 2008 (PDT)
:::::Just tested [[User:Zai_Lynch/Sandbox/Groups_Video|some implementations]] and looks fine to me. As long as we don't use the bigger (standart sized) YouTube vids. Since that looks really ugly when more of them are posted on one page. [[Image:Zai_signature.png|45px]] '''[[User:Zai Lynch|Lynch]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]])</small></sup> 04:38, 14 September 2008 (PDT)
:::::::Mmmmm it would be better to have videos include in pages (easier for the navigation in the wiki but maybe with smaller size + links to vidtut page). @vidtut : I suggest to keep theses pages but indeed without the help cats ([[Video Tutorial/You are Here: a tour of Torley's island!|some of them]] can't be classified and will remain with their help cats ^^). I will complete the page with suggested categories and viewer's items as soon as possible ^^ [[User:Gally Young|Gally Young]] 10:16, 14 September 2008 (PDT)


::::::: ''HIHIHI AGAIN!'' Let me clarify: (1) yes, the vidtuts will surely continue to exist on the wiki after those future improvements I referred to, but the main focal entry point for new Residents will be the Showcase (right now, it's the wiki); and (2) I agree about '''having vidtuts embedded in both (or more) places, KB, wiki, Showcase etc. is grrrreat for Resi Enlightenment'''. What might be "wasted" is I might (slim possibility, but heads-up) change some of the categorization wording on the [[Video_Tutorials/Tags|Tags]] page, depending on how VodPod integration goes. It's not something to be humongously concerned about, but wanted to let you know. If that's fine with you, then I applaud... go forward! And hopefully it's simple to update weekly after the initial push. If you have any specific questions for me, go ahead and ask, or you can always email me (Web tab of my profile too ;) ). '''MUCH APPRECIATED, YOU WIKI ROCKSTARS.''' <font color="#ff0080">'''- [[Image:Torley-favicon.png]] [[User:Torley Linden|Torley]] on 2008-08-07 @ 9:22 AM PST'''</font>
== BlipTV vs. videoflash ==
I think we are going to have problems with vidtut. Vidtut are now hosted by http://blip.tv and '''<nowiki> <videoflash type="blip">http://lindenlab.blip.tv/file/1105701/</videoflash> and <videoflash type="flv">http://blip.tv/file/get/Lindenlab-VoiceChatCustomizeSpeechGestures274.flv</videoflash> </nowiki>''' are not running in this wiki, but maybe I'm doing something wrong... Who could help us on this point ? [[User:Gally Young|Gally Young]] 10:33, 11 August 2008 (PDT)
::Hm... i looked in the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VideoFlash documentation] and blip.tv doesn't seem to be supported by default. It might be possible to just add the line
::<php>$url['blip'] = 'http://lindenlab.blip.tv/file/' . $id;</php>
:to the extension code. But it's just a guess out of consistency to the others, since I got no idea about PHP. It should then work with
::<nowiki><videoflash type="blip">1105701</videoflash></nowiki>
:(might need to add info about width and height to not destroy the watermelon TV). I think we'll try to do the following:
:#Test this in [http://wiki.zeitenwerk.de Kuraiko's Sandbox]
:#File a Jira and attach the updated code as a fix
:#Ask [[User:Torley Linden|Torley]] and/or [[User:Rob Linden|Rob]] to have a look at it.
:Let's cross fingers :-)
:[[Image:Zai_signature.png|45px]] '''[[User:Zai Lynch|Lynch]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]])</small></sup> 11:47, 11 August 2008 (PDT)
:: [[User:SignpostMarv Martin|SignpostMarv Martin]] has worked on this problem (read [[User_talk:Torley_Linden#RE: twitter]]).
::[[User:Gally Young|Gally Young]] 23:45, 11 August 2008 (PDT)
:::See {{JIRA|WEB-761}}
:::[[User:SignpostMarv Martin|SignpostMarv Martin]] 03:46, 12 August 2008 (PDT)


:::::::: Mmm I think we're going to intregrate vidtut in our currents help categories and not create dedicated categories (maybe later). So all is fine for me :)
== Avatar is walking 2 inches above ground Please Help. ==
:::::::: Besides Torley, do you know how to add [[Template:Main_Page/Help]] in the main page ? I think the help portal is ready to go live (even if all is not done (Glossary/Vidtut)) :) [[User:Gally Young|Gally Young]] 10:14, 7 August 2008 (PDT)
:::::::::The first VidTut which uses the new template is '''[[You_are_Here:_a_tour_of_Torley's_island!_VT|ONLINE]]''' (^_^)
:::::::::Glad we're allowed to store and maintain them here '''TY!''' =)
:::::::::Dunno much to say. I'm just happy and lacking sleep ^_^ So yeah like Gally said:
:::::::::Need [[Template:Main Page/Help]] included in the [[Main Page]] to make it more visible =)
:::::::::Greetz & Hugz!
:::::::::[[Image:Zai_signature.png|45px]] '''[[User:Zai Lynch|Lynch]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]])</small></sup> 21:33, 7 August 2008 (PDT)


===Glossary ===
Hi there everyone I have a friend who's avatar is 2 inches about ground at all times how can he fix this?
I propose the following name pages: NAME_DEF (like definition)
Several names pages have already been used (often for Open Source portal). NB: Currently, the SL’[[Glossary]] page includes more than 200 words !
:I suggest moving the OS and AWG page(s) to NAME_OS or NAME_AWG since the users who are into OS and/or AWG might be tech people who will find their pages easily when they are registert to the right categories. "Our" audience is most likely not familiar with Wikis and needs to have as few confusion as possible. So I suggest: In case pages collide, (like [[Inventory]], we should move that page to [[Inventory AWG]], check "what links here", fix the links, state at the new inventory page all on top "in case you're lookin for the AWG page related to "inventory", please browse to [[Inventory AWG]]". Something like that...}}
::Good idea, I will do as you propose ([[NAME AWG]])[[User:Gally Young|Gally Young]] 13:51, 6 August 2008 (PDT)


===Quicky Wiki Intro ===
== History Notice ==
Maybe a more "resident oriented" Quickie Wiki Intro is needed (ex : how to use discussion pages, minor/major update, how to watch pages, etc.)?
:[[Quickie_Wiki_Intro_Part_II#Discussion_Pages|QWI II got that]] but might need to restructure the current QWIs to make them better for new Residents - [[Image:Zai_signature.png|45px]] '''[[User:Zai Lynch|Lynch]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]])</small></sup> 18:04, 5 August 2008 (PDT)
:: Indeed we can restructure current QWI in order to put on the 1st page “residents only" information. [[User:Gally Young|Gally Young]] 13:51, 6 August 2008 (PDT)
:::Yuss, I'll change it a bit in the sandbox and then ask if Lum is fine with it since it was her article... then we can copy and paste again. [[Image:Zai_signature.png|45px]] '''[[User:Zai Lynch|Lynch]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]])</small></sup> 22:28, 6 August 2008 (PDT)
::::Asked Lum and she's fine with it. Will start improvement soon. [[Image:Zai_signature.png|45px]] '''[[User:Zai Lynch|Lynch]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]])</small></sup> 21:33, 7 August 2008 (PDT)


===Go live? ===
The edit history of this file couldn't be preserved. For the previous history, please look at the old backup. It is located at [[Project:Flagged Revs Backup/Help Portal]]. --[[User:Khepri Contractor|Khepri Contractor]] 02:16, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
When decide we're ready to go live... I think, the portal can be used in its current state...the only 2 main points remaining are vidtut & Glossary ^^ [[User:Gally Young|Gally Young]] 13:51, 6 August 2008 (PDT)
:Oh yeah I think it is kinda live already since so many articles link here that we can move it to the main namespace now. So since you started the project, the honor to move it is yours :-) *woot* This is exciting (^_^)
:--[[Image:Zai_signature.png|45px]] '''[[User:Zai Lynch|Lynch]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]])</small></sup> 22:28, 6 August 2008 (PDT)
::Ok I will move pages & update template tonight (I have to go to my office now :/) [[User:Gally Young|Gally Young]] 23:47, 6 August 2008 (PDT)
:::Portal moved ! ;))))) [[User:Gally Young|Gally Young]] 10:14, 7 August 2008 (PDT)
::::Woot! (^_^) [[Image:Zai_signature.png|45px]] '''[[User:Zai Lynch|Lynch]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]])</small></sup> 21:33, 7 August 2008 (PDT)

Latest revision as of 19:16, 20 July 2010

Welcome to the Help Portal's suggestions page !

  • Portal's documentation (categories&templates) can be found here.
  • Previous discutions can be found here Archive 1 (Portal creation discution)


How to add suggestions

If you want to leave a comment / start a discussion about the Help Portal, please operate as follows:

  • Press the edit button on top of the page.
  • Scroll down and start a new topic using: == Name of the topic ==
  • Write your questions/suggestions and sign it with four tildes: ~~~~ (or the signature button Button sig.png). These will automatically be converted into your username and a timestamp.
  • Preview the page and save it if you're comfortable with it.
  • If you want to answer to a persons posting you can scroll behind the posting, hit enter to start a new line and begin it with a colon (:). It will be displayed as an intended line then.
  • If you want to answer to an answer, please write multiple colons in the beginning of the line.


New Contents

  • Several pages must be converted into categories (and pages) :
    • User:Lum_Pfohl/Troubleshooting
      • a lots of interesting information, I will ask Lum if she's ok.
        • asked Lum and she's happy to provide her content in order to support this project =) (Zai Lynch)


Translations

I think we can start preparing stuff for translations. Like moving the French and German translations of the FAQ and Glossary (since these are the ones we're able to understand). I'm just trying to fix Template:Help/de in a way that it becomes usable for the new Project:Languages criteria. Will ask Asuka again and then rewrite the article. See Project:I18n/native feature migration. We don't really need the native feature to do that yet. See Project talk:I18n/native feature migration#Bridging the gap until implementation. The feature is already implemented in Template:Multi-lang (I was just to blind to recognize). The Template:Help/de works as intended in the sandbox but refuses to work in here (since it's an older mediawiki version...). I'll need to spend more time on thinking how to fix it... So all articles should have names in the articles language to be usable for people. Same for categories. NAME/fr and NAME/de would just be used for redirects or in case of colliding names (like anywhere in the LSL Portal. So LSL stays as is.) I need some sleep now... ^_^
Greetz, Zai signature.png Lynch (talk|contribs) 23:02, 18 August 2008 (PDT)


Teen Section

I was wondering if Teen Second Life could have a section on the Help Portal with TSL links etc?. For example TSL Volunteers Portal, TSL FAQ and along with my TSL wiki page.

Daniel Voyager [5:24], 30th August 2008 (PDT)

It seems a good idea! ^^
This FAQ is already available in the misc section but maybe a dedicated section in "1st step" or "advanced help" would be better if you have more links ^^. Don't forget to add the Help template in your pages. Gally Young 05:09, 31 August 2008 (PDT)


Sub category

The portal has quickly grown ^^ I think sub cat are needed in order to simplify the navigation. I propose the following sub cats :

Gally Young 14:56, 3 September 2008 (PDT)

Heyas Gally! =)
Hmm... I can see that the categories grew and that further sorting might be(come) useful. But I'm not yet sure about how to manage that many. Should we provide them all in the Template:Help? The full spec would become really long and hard(er) to use. While having a sub-template for each of the main categories might not be an improvement either... What would be your suggestion? Having it as part of the help template, as extra-template or categorize by hand? Or maybe we can strip some down... I mean: How many articles about the "Space Navigator" do we expect? I'm not sure if it deserves an own category then. Same with "Groups" for example. I think another way to reduce the category cluttering could be, to start with merging related articles. This is useful as long as an article is still small. I'd rather want to have one long and detailed article describing a variety of aspects related to one subject than having 10 micro articles. So searching and merging related articles should be one of our goals too. I just added the Help:Open Wiki Tasks page to address this problem. (Btw: great sorting with the "Bug Fixes" SubCats "Linux", "Mac" and "Lag", implying that "Windows" = "Lag". I had a great laugh reading that and think you are right (^_^); )
Greetz, Zai signature.png Lynch (talk|contribs) 23:42, 5 September 2008 (PDT)
  1. Define a sub-category parameter
  2. Use {{#switch}} to swap out another row of links/another table below the main one.
SignpostMarv Martin 07:58, 7 September 2008 (PDT)
Ok I'm going to make a more detailed list of articles for each sub cats (The Help Portal contains +600 articles (o_O).
I think some sub categories are really needed (ex : Category:Help/Creation because we need a dedicated cat for tutorials (this cat could be also used for the Creation Portal))
After a quick analysis, for "group" I have found:
And for Spacenavigator :
Mmmmmm for spacenavigator we can merge all pages in SpaceNavigator and remove vidtut from Category:Help/Viewer, for groups, I have the feeling that a dedicated sub category with marv's tips would be usefull (because subjets are very differents and they will be easier to find with their own page)...
Gally Young 14:58, 8 September 2008 (PDT)
My 1st analyse is ended and is available here : Talk:Help Portal/New Organisation. I have been mainly concentrated to how merge pages I will add my comments about new categories later. I have to sleep now ^^ Gally Young 16:35, 13 September 2008 (PDT)
WOW o.O I can only imagine how long that took... It's quite impressing! I added it to Help:Open Wiki Tasks too, so others might stumble upon it as well (I hope). @Video Tutorials: Would we keep the 1 page per VidTut rule and just add the links of the VidTuts to the article and remove the help cat from the VidTut page to not clutter the category? Or would we add the videos to the article instead? For groups, this would be 7 videos by now. So I don't know how it effects weak computers to load all these information. I experienced that it's for example hard to load some MySpace pages because of lots of media (pictures and videos) added to the page. But on the other hand, PCs which are able to handle SL might also be able to handle a page with much content on it... Zai signature.png Lynch (talk|contribs) 04:03, 14 September 2008 (PDT)
Just tested some implementations and looks fine to me. As long as we don't use the bigger (standart sized) YouTube vids. Since that looks really ugly when more of them are posted on one page. Zai signature.png Lynch (talk|contribs) 04:38, 14 September 2008 (PDT)
Mmmmm it would be better to have videos include in pages (easier for the navigation in the wiki but maybe with smaller size + links to vidtut page). @vidtut : I suggest to keep theses pages but indeed without the help cats (some of them can't be classified and will remain with their help cats ^^). I will complete the page with suggested categories and viewer's items as soon as possible ^^ Gally Young 10:16, 14 September 2008 (PDT)

BlipTV vs. videoflash

I think we are going to have problems with vidtut. Vidtut are now hosted by http://blip.tv and <videoflash type="blip">http://lindenlab.blip.tv/file/1105701/</videoflash> and <videoflash type="flv">http://blip.tv/file/get/Lindenlab-VoiceChatCustomizeSpeechGestures274.flv</videoflash> are not running in this wiki, but maybe I'm doing something wrong... Who could help us on this point ? Gally Young 10:33, 11 August 2008 (PDT)

Hm... i looked in the documentation and blip.tv doesn't seem to be supported by default. It might be possible to just add the line
<php>$url['blip'] = 'http://lindenlab.blip.tv/file/' . $id;</php>
to the extension code. But it's just a guess out of consistency to the others, since I got no idea about PHP. It should then work with
<videoflash type="blip">1105701</videoflash>
(might need to add info about width and height to not destroy the watermelon TV). I think we'll try to do the following:
  1. Test this in Kuraiko's Sandbox
  2. File a Jira and attach the updated code as a fix
  3. Ask Torley and/or Rob to have a look at it.
Let's cross fingers :-)
Zai signature.png Lynch (talk|contribs) 11:47, 11 August 2008 (PDT)
SignpostMarv Martin has worked on this problem (read User_talk:Torley_Linden#RE: twitter).
Gally Young 23:45, 11 August 2008 (PDT)
See WEB-761
SignpostMarv Martin 03:46, 12 August 2008 (PDT)

Avatar is walking 2 inches above ground Please Help.

Hi there everyone I have a friend who's avatar is 2 inches about ground at all times how can he fix this?

History Notice

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