Beta Server Office Hours/Minutes/2014-11-06
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[2014/11/06 15:00] Inara Breen: Hey, Rex
[2014/11/06 15:00] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Hello, Nalates.
[2014/11/06 15:00] Rex Cronon: hi yuzuru
[2014/11/06 15:00] Jonathan Yap: but I have seen a lot of peole flying over
[2014/11/06 15:00] Whirly Fizzle: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-7707 Lucia
[2014/11/06 15:00] Caleb Linden: yeah
[2014/11/06 15:00] Lucia Nightfire: have you logged on aditi since the last OH?
[2014/11/06 15:00] Rex Cronon: hi jenna
[2014/11/06 15:00] Rex Cronon: hi inara
[2014/11/06 15:00] Jonathan Yap: not me
[2014/11/06 15:00] Caleb Linden: about the last location, on aditi
[2014/11/06 15:01] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): I met BUG-7707..
[2014/11/06 15:01] rcdsQueChatLog: State changed.{click me to get the url}
[2014/11/06 15:01] Whirly Fizzle: Yeah I landed on your head hehehe
[2014/11/06 15:01] Caleb Linden: our hunch is that it may have something to do with the inventory host. not all are on the same one
[2014/11/06 15:01] Caleb Linden: but whirly and i are on the same one and we were redirected
[2014/11/06 15:02] Jonathan Yap: can you see if I am on a different host?
[2014/11/06 15:02] Caleb Linden: let me check
[2014/11/06 15:02] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Hello, Simon.
[2014/11/06 15:02] Simon Linden: Hello everyone
[2014/11/06 15:03] Rex Cronon: hi simon
[2014/11/06 15:03] Jonathan Yap: hi Simon
[2014/11/06 15:03] Whirly Fizzle: Heya Simon
[2014/11/06 15:03] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Hello, Maestro.
[2014/11/06 15:03] Inara Breen: Hi, Simon, Maestro
[2014/11/06 15:03] Jonathan Yap: looks like Maestro had to fly over too
[2014/11/06 15:03] Whirly Fizzle: Heya Maestro
[2014/11/06 15:04] Caleb Linden: Simon has a meeting later. So i'd like to hand him the mic to talk about the group chat stuff first
[2014/11/06 15:04] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Hm, well I did just TP to the middle of morris.. that may have been a parcel landing point thing
[2014/11/06 15:04] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Hello
[2014/11/06 15:04] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Caleb will be MCing today
[2014/11/06 15:04] Rex Cronon: hello maestro
[2014/11/06 15:04] Lucia Nightfire: maestro is in GM, for a sec I didn't see him nearby on radar
[2014/11/06 15:05] Caleb Linden: Jonathan, yes you are on a different inventory host
[2014/11/06 15:05] Jonathan Yap: thank you Caleb
[2014/11/06 15:05] Simon Linden: I'm working on another update to the group chat server and want to do a test ... we can do that after any news or quick topics
[2014/11/06 15:05] Caleb Linden: oh ok
[2014/11/06 15:05] Jonathan Yap: what group should we be in to test on?
[2014/11/06 15:05] Lucia Nightfire: /me gets her @'s ready
[2014/11/06 15:05] Caleb Linden: i just have a really quick update
[2014/11/06 15:06] Caleb Linden: There were no RC rolls this week :)
[2014/11/06 15:06] Simon Linden: FYI as others are talking about it ... one of the back-end servers for this grid was having troubles and that's behind some of the problems like logging into the last location
[2014/11/06 15:06] Whirly Fizzle: secondlife:///app/group/fa943583-23f5-3242-da23-52024f1e05c4/about & secondlife:///app/group/19e6bef4-74bc-242c-e49f-94815cb3b494/about Jonathan
[2014/11/06 15:06] Caleb Linden: and main channel got the minor maintenance improvements
[2014/11/06 15:07] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): There was also an issue until yesterday where Aditi mainland had "Allow Direct Teleport" disabled. So you'd end up at a telehub in Ahern when trying to TP to Morris, etc.
[2014/11/06 15:07] Caleb Linden: That's all for the updates
[2014/11/06 15:07] Jonathan Yap: "Do not push this red button"
[2014/11/06 15:08] Caleb Linden: ^ For a toddler this means do push it
[2014/11/06 15:08] Caleb Linden: anyways, back to Simon. take it away
[2014/11/06 15:09] Simon Linden: So for the group chat test, this is a general load and chatting test
[2014/11/06 15:09] Simon Linden: Please use "Group Chat Test" and "Group Chat Chat" as usaul
[2014/11/06 15:10] Simon Linden: and if you can close and re-open those windows, and fly around between regions, plus throw out chat messages, that would be great
[2014/11/06 15:10] Simon Linden: We can meet back here in 5 minutes ... 3:15 SLT
[2014/11/06 15:10] Simon Linden: Chat away!
[2014/11/06 15:10] Simon Linden: and send me an IM if you have questions or see problems
[2014/11/06 15:11] Caleb Linden: Nickelback is a Canadian rock band formed in 1995 in Hanna, Alberta. The band is composed of guitarist and lead vocalist Chad Kroeger, guitarist, keyboardist and backing vocalist Ryan Peake, bassist Mike Kroeger, and drummer Daniel Adair. The band went through a few drummer changes between 1995 and 2005, achieving its current form when Adair replaced drummer Ryan Vikedal.
[2014/11/06 15:12] Caleb Linden: Nickelback is a Canadian rock band formed in 1995 in Hanna, Alberta. The band is composed of guitarist and lead vocalist Chad Kroeger, guitarist, keyboardist and backing vocalist Ryan Peake, bassist Mike Kroeger, and drummer Daniel Adair. The band went through a few drummer changes between 1995 and 2005, achieving its current form when Adair replaced drummer Ryan Vikedal.
[2014/11/06 15:16] Jenna Felton: yes i can open betweem the group tabs without any issue
[2014/11/06 15:16] Simon Linden: Thanks everyone for the help
[2014/11/06 15:16] Jenna Felton: perhaps too less communication
[2014/11/06 15:17] Rex Cronon: lucy. did u block everybody:)
[2014/11/06 15:17] arton Rotaru: lol
[2014/11/06 15:18] Lucia Nightfire: that was FS's antispam, which apparently doesn't work for people spamming group chat as I got the alerts but kept seeing the spam
[2014/11/06 15:18] Rex Cronon: for a sec i thought u were doing it manaly:)
[2014/11/06 15:18] Rex Cronon: manually*
[2014/11/06 15:19] Lucia Nightfire: naw
[2014/11/06 15:19] Lucia Nightfire: I do that on agni
[2014/11/06 15:19] Kennylex Luckless: Did it manly?
[2014/11/06 15:19] Rex Cronon: lol. typo
[2014/11/06 15:20] Kennylex Luckless: MehWhoop.... MehWhoop!
[2014/11/06 15:20] Simon Linden: I'll dig into the logs and see what I find ... this update isn't expected to change chat performance much at all but will give us some information on places that might be improved
[2014/11/06 15:21] Lucia Nightfire: someday group chat will stop failing to show the OP's chat line
[2014/11/06 15:21] Lucia Nightfire: I get that so often today
[2014/11/06 15:21] Whirly Fizzle: I get that all the time
[2014/11/06 15:21] Jenna Felton: communication is a very imortant part of SL ;) improvement any time wellcome
[2014/11/06 15:21] Lucia Nightfire: the first line I get is from teh first responder, not the OP
[2014/11/06 15:21] Whirly Fizzle: Ya
[2014/11/06 15:21] Whirly Fizzle: I see that a lot in SecondLife beta group
[2014/11/06 15:21] Gibson Firehawk: same here
[2014/11/06 15:21] Rex Cronon: when teleporting it seemed like upon arrival i had 2-4 seconds during which i didn't get any messages and ll i typed showed without delay
[2014/11/06 15:22] Rex Cronon: and all i typed*
[2014/11/06 15:22] Lucia Nightfire: I didn't see a long delay
[2014/11/06 15:22] Simon Linden: There is a delay when you move to the new region, but it should be pretty short
[2014/11/06 15:23] Lucia Nightfire: righty
[2014/11/06 15:23] Simon Linden: Basically the message goes to the old region, it says "Rex isn't here" and then the chat server goes and looks up where you are
[2014/11/06 15:23] Lucia Nightfire: thebig question is, is that messag forwarded, heh
[2014/11/06 15:23] Lucia Nightfire: someone should have been doing incremented integer chatting, heh
[2014/11/06 15:23] Simon Linden: yes, there are a few extra steps there where it can break down
[2014/11/06 15:24] Simon Linden: Message delivery order is NOT guaranteed, however
[2014/11/06 15:24] Lucia Nightfire: from my testing years ago, messages sent during a sim crossing were dropped
[2014/11/06 15:25] Rex Cronon: what happens if u r stuck teleporting?
[2014/11/06 15:25] Simon Linden: So you would send, and then quickly cross, Lucia?
[2014/11/06 15:25] Simon Linden: All hope is lost, Rex :P
[2014/11/06 15:25] Lucia Nightfire: no I mean soemone would be sending me chat and while I was crossing I wouldn't receive it
[2014/11/06 15:25] Jenna Felton: when i let a script use llOwnerMessage and i teleport to another sim, in my last test i stil got the messages for a minute or so, at another sim
[2014/11/06 15:26] Whirly Fizzle: Yeah. Same if someone Ims you during a TP. It goes to offlines
[2014/11/06 15:26] Lucia Nightfire: ownersay works while you're a child though
[2014/11/06 15:26] Simon Linden: That type of messaging doesn't use the group chat servers, Jenna, so I'm not sure where that might fail
[2014/11/06 15:26] Lucia Nightfire: *child agent
[2014/11/06 15:26] Jenna Felton: ok
[2014/11/06 15:26] Lucia Nightfire: for the first 55 sec after you leave the region
[2014/11/06 15:26] Simon Linden: That makes sense, Jenna - if it has a child agent, it knows where you are and can deliver it
[2014/11/06 15:27] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Right, llOwnerSay() is just normal chat
[2014/11/06 15:27] Jenna Felton: i thought there is the same mechanism in finding the location of the recepient, here and in opening a llDialog
[2014/11/06 15:27] Jenna Felton: ok
[2014/11/06 15:27] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): well, a sort of chat :)
[2014/11/06 15:27] Jenna Felton: than it is not connected :)
[2014/11/06 15:27] Simon Linden: sorry, Lucia, I meant (on the child agent thing)
[2014/11/06 15:27] Jenna Felton: ok
[2014/11/06 15:27] Whirly Fizzle: lol since interesting changes you get stuck connected as a child to a region you left until you relog. Happens fairly often.
[2014/11/06 15:28] Lucia Nightfire: not sure I've experienced that
[2014/11/06 15:28] Simon Linden: There is a common method to find out where someone is ... but that information is often cached. We don't want to do 100 lookups every time someone sends a message to a group that size, for example
[2014/11/06 15:28] Jenna Felton: i see
[2014/11/06 15:29] Simon Linden: So there system has logic (in many places, not just group chat) which is kinda like "try sending to where I think they are, and if that fails, go ask and try again"
[2014/11/06 15:29] Jonathan Yap: Would it be better to eliminate the sumulator from being a group-chat passer and just have everyone connected directly all the time to some chat hubs?
[2014/11/06 15:30] Lucia Nightfire: as long as its not directly connected like voice, heh
[2014/11/06 15:30] Jenna Felton: and when you make a virtual server that keeps the information of the avatar locations, which is updated by every teleport and probably region crossing, and all region servers contribute to that virtual server somehow?
[2014/11/06 15:31] Simon Linden: Not really, Jonathan - there can be roughly 50k people online at once, all in 42 groups ... it doesn't scale well
[2014/11/06 15:31] Lucia Nightfire: SL2 will probably see a different setup
[2014/11/06 15:31] Jenna Felton: like the region you logged in works as your personal track keeper
[2014/11/06 15:31] Jenna Felton: and all reuests go there
[2014/11/06 15:31] Jenna Felton: requests*
[2014/11/06 15:32] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Right, the simulators update your avatar's 'presence' to a central service, which is used to route IMs etc.
[2014/11/06 15:32] Simon Linden: yeah ... but I do get your point. If we were building a brand new system, it wouldn't be using the exact same architecture as SL :P
[2014/11/06 15:32] Rex Cronon: u might have a problem if too many avatars change positions too fast during same time period
[2014/11/06 15:33] Simon Linden: Yes Rex it's a problem when any of the back-end systems like this one get overloaded
[2014/11/06 15:33] Nal (nalates.urriah): Like running from a region restart?
[2014/11/06 15:33] Lucia Nightfire: don't be the last person out the door, heh
[2014/11/06 15:33] Lucia Nightfire: Whirls, heh
[2014/11/06 15:33] Simon Linden: Right Nal - we see these getting stressed during the rollouts
[2014/11/06 15:33] Whirly Fizzle: >.< I still gat disconnected if Im last to leave a restarting region
[2014/11/06 15:34] Jonathan Yap: I thought that got fixed Whirly
[2014/11/06 15:34] Lucia Nightfire: still happens to me
[2014/11/06 15:34] Whirly Fizzle: There was a fix but it still happens to me
[2014/11/06 15:34] Whirly Fizzle: As soon as the region I left goes down, Bang...Im disconnected.
[2014/11/06 15:34] Simon Linden: I have to go ... thanks for the help
[2014/11/06 15:34] Jenna Felton: was you tryint to teleport to a running region Whirly?
[2014/11/06 15:34] Caleb Linden: thank you simon
[2014/11/06 15:35] Jenna Felton: have good time Simon and good weekend :)
[2014/11/06 15:35] Jonathan Yap: Was the issue fixed where if you left a restarting region you could tp back into it but not walk back into it (if you were an estate manager(?
[2014/11/06 15:35] Gibson Firehawk: is it just affecting those who initiate the restarts or just the last person who leaves period?
[2014/11/06 15:35] Lucia Nightfire: last person that leaves
[2014/11/06 15:35] Whirly Fizzle: Ya. I arrive at the destination region fine and can move. I only get disconnected when the region I left goes offline. It takes me with it and ONLY if I was the last to leave
[2014/11/06 15:35] Lucia Nightfire: I've had it happen on mainland with a Linden intiated restart
[2014/11/06 15:36] Whirly Fizzle: It started when the changes were made to restart regions faster after the last agent left
[2014/11/06 15:36] Whirly Fizzle: It happens with a roll and with a mnual restart
[2014/11/06 15:36] Whirly Fizzle: Weird issue
[2014/11/06 15:36] Whirly Fizzle: *manual
[2014/11/06 15:36] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Hm, at that point had the location bar changed to show your destination region, Whirly?
[2014/11/06 15:36] Jenna Felton: i.e. you was teleported out already and all was fine but with the restart of the region you was, you was disconnected?
[2014/11/06 15:36] Whirly Fizzle: Yes. Destination region is rezed. I really am there. Logs show Im there too
[2014/11/06 15:37] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): (as far as I know, the region name in the location bar indicates where your 'main agent' is)
[2014/11/06 15:37] Jonathan Yap: Whirly, if the restart countdown is along one do you spend some time in region B and then still eventually get cut off?
[2014/11/06 15:37] Jonathan Yap: *a long
[2014/11/06 15:37] Whirly Fizzle: I think its because Im still connected to the old region as a child when it goes offline.
[2014/11/06 15:38] Jonathan Yap: so it is a viewer problem
[2014/11/06 15:38] Lucia Nightfire: obviously active hand-offs are not checked with the restart process
[2014/11/06 15:38] Whirly Fizzle: Hmm though I can TP an alt out and TP myself (last to leave) 1 second later and the alt survives.
[2014/11/06 15:38] Lucia Nightfire: just being a child alone it shouldn't crash you
[2014/11/06 15:38] Rex Cronon: slvier doesn't like it when firefox competes for bandwith and disconnects:(
[2014/11/06 15:38] Lucia Nightfire: if that was teh case nearby regions goign down in your view would crash you too, heh
[2014/11/06 15:38] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Yeah, that's my thought exactly, Lucia
[2014/11/06 15:39] Whirly Fizzle: Yeah
[2014/11/06 15:39] Whirly Fizzle: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-5034 is the JIRA for it
[2014/11/06 15:40] Jonathan Yap: seems like someone needs to add some logging to show what the status of connections are upon being disconnected
[2014/11/06 15:40] Lucia Nightfire: wonder if its some failed attachment checking and/or loading
[2014/11/06 15:40] Lucia Nightfire: next time try completely naked with no attachments
[2014/11/06 15:40] Whirly Fizzle: Im fairly sure I did already but I can test that again
[2014/11/06 15:40] Jonathan Yap: well, you get disconnected if the sim ping timer expires, what else?
[2014/11/06 15:40] Rex Cronon: do u have to take your skin off too:)
[2014/11/06 15:41] Lucia Nightfire: sim ping is long though
[2014/11/06 15:41] Jenna Felton: Whirly, are the viewer logs telling something about why the viewer was disconnected?
[2014/11/06 15:41] Lucia Nightfire: timeout
[2014/11/06 15:41] Whirly Fizzle: Not sure jenna. I can't read log files that well.
[2014/11/06 15:42] Jenna Felton: me neither :)
[2014/11/06 15:42] Jonathan Yap: look at the end and work your way backwards
[2014/11/06 15:42] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): so I just checked back into the BUG-7707 issue
[2014/11/06 15:42] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): the server that broke to cause this issue for certain avatars seems to be fixed, now
[2014/11/06 15:42] Whirly Fizzle: Cools
[2014/11/06 15:43] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): so 'login last location' should be back to nromal
[2014/11/06 15:43] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): normal!
[2014/11/06 15:43] Caleb Linden: will test
[2014/11/06 15:43] Caleb Linden: it was funny because before we got to morris we all piled on ACME H
[2014/11/06 15:44] Lucia Nightfire: isn't that an exp region?
[2014/11/06 15:44] Whirly Fizzle: ACME H & Rizal seemed to be the regions I got dumped to
[2014/11/06 15:44] Rex Cronon: i logged in normally. didn't have to go to acme first
[2014/11/06 15:44] Lucia Nightfire: I got sent to Ruiz
[2014/11/06 15:44] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Yes, but more importantly it's an adult safe location
[2014/11/06 15:45] Whirly Fizzle: Oh Ruiz
[2014/11/06 15:45] Whirly Fizzle: Sorry
[2014/11/06 15:45] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): (mainland, set to adult maturity and has a telehub)
[2014/11/06 15:46] Jonathan Yap: Whirly, what happens if you leave restarting region A, teleport to B, and then teleport to C a moment later?
[2014/11/06 15:46] Lucia Nightfire: you'd have to be damn quick to try
[2014/11/06 15:46] Whirly Fizzle: Oh hmmm didn't try that. I will
[2014/11/06 15:47] Jonathan Yap: Also, what happens if you walk out of restarting A to region B?
[2014/11/06 15:47] Lucia Nightfire: same
[2014/11/06 15:47] Lucia Nightfire: when it happesn to me I was doign a region cross
[2014/11/06 15:47] Whirly Fizzle: I can't test that. Dont have restart rights on a region with a neighbour
[2014/11/06 15:47] Jonathan Yap: Ask Oz to make you EM for his regions here
[2014/11/06 15:48] Whirly Fizzle: Well one has a neighbour but its not public access
[2014/11/06 15:48] Lucia Nightfire: you crash on a region cross too
[2014/11/06 15:49] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): ping
[2014/11/06 15:49] Caleb Linden: pong
[2014/11/06 15:49] Jonathan Yap: hi hi
[2014/11/06 15:49] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): my other computer just lost internet
[2014/11/06 15:49] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): not this one evidently :)
[2014/11/06 15:49] Lucia Nightfire: I had my sandboxes restarted before and beign the last to leave with a region cross can crash you as well
[2014/11/06 15:49] Zenith Subchair final p: whispers: Hi Maestro Linden! Touch me for Menu. Say /1a to Adjust.
[2014/11/06 15:50] Lucia Nightfire: subchair, huh
[2014/11/06 15:51] Whirly Fizzle: Not that kind of sub lol
[2014/11/06 15:51] Lucia Nightfire: heh
[2014/11/06 15:51] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): :o
[2014/11/06 15:51] Kennylex Luckless: MehWhoop.... MehWhoop!
[2014/11/06 15:51] Lucia Nightfire: so,. whats comign down that pipe
[2014/11/06 15:52] Jenna Felton: not sure if that is connected but i have noticed that when my router looses the connection and then reconnects again, apparently with an other IP address even, than sometimes the viewer catches the connection and i am stil logged in to SL. Probably this mechanism interrupted here somehow or crashes the viewer
[2014/11/06 15:52] Jonathan Yap: If your wifi connection drops and you reconnect in time then you will pick up your session
[2014/11/06 15:52] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): I've been working on some central servers updates which improve internal metrics reporting, to help detect when things go awry. Nothing visible there..
[2014/11/06 15:52] Jenna Felton: i am on cable :)
[2014/11/06 15:53] Gibson Firehawk: same with cable though...if it reconnects in time
[2014/11/06 15:53] Jenna Felton: ok, that sounds good though :)
[2014/11/06 15:53] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Oh, for you scripters..
[2014/11/06 15:53] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): I just verified the fix for https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-27512
[2014/11/06 15:53] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): It's in viewer-lion
[2014/11/06 15:54] arton Rotaru: what's it about
[2014/11/06 15:54] Kennylex Luckless: I gotta go, take care and have fun.
[2014/11/06 15:54] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): That bug is about..
[2014/11/06 15:54] Kennylex Luckless: MehWhoop.... MehWhoop!
[2014/11/06 15:54] Rex Cronon: tc kennylex
[2014/11/06 15:54] Caleb Linden: ciao kenny
[2014/11/06 15:54] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): sometimes you have 2 objects where one is the copy of the other
[2014/11/06 15:54] arton Rotaru: (I'm too lazy to log into jira)
[2014/11/06 15:54] Lucia Nightfire: never noticed that one
[2014/11/06 15:54] Lucia Nightfire: oh the same script name thing
[2014/11/06 15:54] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): and you can't open up the script editor for one of the object's scripts if you had another script window open previously
[2014/11/06 15:54] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Yes Lucia
[2014/11/06 15:54] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1mfpKe_QN0
[2014/11/06 15:54] Whirly Fizzle: Its fixed in FS Lucia . Hmm though only recently. Maybe we snagged the LL fix, not sure
[2014/11/06 15:54] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): is the 'repro video'
[2014/11/06 15:54] arton Rotaru: oh that one sucked
[2014/11/06 15:54] Lucia Nightfire: yeah I thought it was fixed in FS
[2014/11/06 15:54] Lucia Nightfire: haven't seen it in forever
[2014/11/06 15:55] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Oh well, it was broken in the release viweer
[2014/11/06 15:55] Whirly Fizzle: Hmm Ansa fixed it http://hg.phoenixviewer.com/phoenix-firestorm-lgpl/rev/8516c262d1df
[2014/11/06 15:55] Lucia Nightfire: you'd see that a lto with multiple "New Script" scripts, heh
[2014/11/06 15:55] Whirly Fizzle: Dont think the LL fix is public yet
[2014/11/06 15:55] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if the two fixes conflict when FS pulls it..
[2014/11/06 15:56] arton Rotaru: lol
[2014/11/06 15:56] Whirly Fizzle: If your fix is better, it would just get replaced with the LL fix
[2014/11/06 15:56] arton Rotaru: fix battle
[2014/11/06 15:56] Whirly Fizzle: Better to keep codebase as matching as possible with LL
[2014/11/06 15:56] Lucia Nightfire: I would hope the devs change whats necessary first before just merging stuffs, heh
[2014/11/06 15:56] Gibson Firehawk: poor Tank....a merge clusterf**k every time
[2014/11/06 15:57] Whirly Fizzle: Then comes the testing pain. I hate merges >.<
[2014/11/06 15:59] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): the other thing coming down the pipe are those group chat changes that we just tested with simon
[2014/11/06 16:00] Caleb Linden: yeah
[2014/11/06 16:00] Lucia Nightfire: I'd like to see experience based things comign down teh pipe someday too, heh
[2014/11/06 16:00] Caleb Linden: alrighty, we ran out of time
[2014/11/06 16:00] Caleb Linden: have a great one guys
[2014/11/06 16:01] Whirly Fizzle: Ty Lindens
[2014/11/06 16:01] Caleb Linden: thanks maestro, too
[2014/11/06 16:01] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Thank you, Caleb and Maestro.
[2014/11/06 16:01] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): thanks for coming everybody!
[2014/11/06 16:01] Rex Cronon: tc caleb
[2014/11/06 16:01] arton Rotaru: thx you too
[2014/11/06 16:01] Jonathan Yap: Thank you Lindens
[2014/11/06 16:01] Gibson Firehawk: thanks Lindens
[2014/11/06 16:01] Jenna Felton: yes, aftermeeting time .)