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[2017/03/23 15:00] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I think [2017/03/23 15:00] Duckie Dickins: zommmmmbiesssssssss [2017/03/23 15:00] Duckie Dickins: om nom nom [2017/03/23 15:02] Mazidox Linden: Brainssssssss [2017/03/23 15:03] Rex Cronon: hello folks [2017/03/23 15:03] Mazidox Linden: Grah! [2017/03/23 15:04] arton Rotaru: Gunaaaabend [2017/03/23 15:04] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): gunnabend [2017/03/23 15:04] Mazidox Linden: Mrh. [2017/03/23 15:04] Rex Cronon: hi arton [2017/03/23 15:04] Rex Cronon: hi caleb [2017/03/23 15:05] arton Rotaru: come a little closer Rex ^^ [2017/03/23 15:05] arton Rotaru: we don't bite :p [2017/03/23 15:05] Rex Cronon: if i can move... [2017/03/23 15:05] Mazidox Linden: Mrhhhh! [2017/03/23 15:05] arton Rotaru: lol [2017/03/23 15:05] NOPE (margithe): We don't get to know the next shiny. I'm preemptively disappointed already. [2017/03/23 15:05] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): i guess we can start, eh? [2017/03/23 15:05] Rex Cronon: mazidox, u have a cat walking on your keyboard:) [2017/03/23 15:06] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): there won't be shinies next week [2017/03/23 15:06] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I'm disappointed theres no scripted alternative to the next shiney [2017/03/23 15:06] NOPE (margithe): OMG you already know something? I'm going to the wrong meetings obviously [2017/03/23 15:06] arton Rotaru: what would that be, the scripted alternative [2017/03/23 15:06] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): something something [2017/03/23 15:06] arton Rotaru: :p [2017/03/23 15:07] arton Rotaru: at least I tried [2017/03/23 15:07] arton Rotaru: :p [2017/03/23 15:07] arton Rotaru: Rex is doing the Bot moves [2017/03/23 15:07] NOPE (margithe): Keep going Caleb [2017/03/23 15:07] Rex Cronon: lol [2017/03/23 15:07] arton Rotaru: 90 degree turns [2017/03/23 15:08] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): so RC got promoted to the Main Channel [2017/03/23 15:08] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): and we are prepping for an RC which basically log tweaks [2017/03/23 15:08] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): logging = boring [2017/03/23 15:08] Nal (nalates.urriah): I second that [2017/03/23 15:09] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): this is still under development, but i can share you something [2017/03/23 15:09] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): 99% of teh changes have been "internal changes" or "internal logging" [2017/03/23 15:09] Nal (nalates.urriah): :) [2017/03/23 15:09] Rex Cronon: this so weird. i had a landmark to this place. now is gone:( [2017/03/23 15:09] arton Rotaru: wasn't that you Lucy, who gets 2000 emails a day from logging your Sl devices? :p [2017/03/23 15:09] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): not anymore [2017/03/23 15:09] Duckie Dickins: is that code for developers out on spring break? [2017/03/23 15:09] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): it's dubbed "New estate setting allowing estate owners to override the parcel level allow public access settings" [2017/03/23 15:09] arton Rotaru: lol [2017/03/23 15:10] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): CAleb, you have to post the jira request for that, heh [2017/03/23 15:10] Duckie Dickins: so that means estate owners get to be ban line nazis for their renters? No Ban lines for you!!! [2017/03/23 15:10] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): nono it's already in the pipeline and being worked on [2017/03/23 15:11] Mazidox Linden: /me nods [2017/03/23 15:11] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): idt you can override parcel ban lists, just access types [2017/03/23 15:11] NOPE (margithe): eh meh [2017/03/23 15:11] Duckie Dickins: oh [2017/03/23 15:11] Rex Cronon: what is nono? [2017/03/23 15:11] NOPE (margithe): /me looks horribly unimpressed. [2017/03/23 15:11] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): yeah, meh from me too, heh [2017/03/23 15:12] Duckie Dickins: Next shiny, can we get a little more cow bell? [2017/03/23 15:12] NOPE (margithe): So all this about land owners getting goodies, is for estates? Well, how nice. [2017/03/23 15:12] Nal (nalates.urriah): So... is this Estate Mge can block entry if parcel owner doesn't. But, can Estate Mge open access if parcel owner closes it? [2017/03/23 15:12] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I wouldn't call it a goodie, just slight flexibility [2017/03/23 15:13] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): but it's a future change :| [2017/03/23 15:13] NOPE (margithe): eh meh, still. Another setting to mess up thats ends up looking like a complete contradiction. [2017/03/23 15:14] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): another "parsley" setting when I ordered meat and potatoes [2017/03/23 15:14] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): and i wanted to invite to the dev to talk about it, and now i have to send him home again, because meh [2017/03/23 15:14] NOPE (margithe): "but i did set so-and so on my land... whyyyy doesn't it work" [2017/03/23 15:14] arton Rotaru: lol [2017/03/23 15:14] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): why send them home? [2017/03/23 15:14] NOPE (margithe): cause there wasn't applause? [2017/03/23 15:14] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): i was kidding about the dev [2017/03/23 15:15] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): was said dev, Rider? [2017/03/23 15:15] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): yeah [2017/03/23 15:15] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): what about the other shiney he is working on [2017/03/23 15:15] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): that also doesn't have scripted alternative... [2017/03/23 15:15] arton Rotaru: well, it's kinda hard to keep track of all these settings, I don't want to know how nasty it is to keep track of the code itself^^ [2017/03/23 15:16] NOPE (margithe): So wait, what does this mean for mainland. Are you going to override parcel settings with Gov Linden? [2017/03/23 15:16] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I hope not, heh [2017/03/23 15:16] NOPE (margithe): higher level settings overrides, not good for the newbs. [2017/03/23 15:17] Mazidox Linden: Okay [2017/03/23 15:17] Mazidox Linden: Real talk guys [2017/03/23 15:17] Duckie Dickins: I'd like some linden gas stations along to roadway on the Corsica continent that are vehicle rez zones. :) [2017/03/23 15:18] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): real talk? [2017/03/23 15:18] Mazidox Linden: So, we *already* have residents that have in the estate covenant "You can't ban people" [2017/03/23 15:18] Mazidox Linden: This allows you to programatically enforce that. [2017/03/23 15:18] arton Rotaru: aha [2017/03/23 15:18] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): doesn't stop scripted send home, heh [2017/03/23 15:20] NOPE (margithe): it just feels... like such a fringe case that can be simply overruled by kicking renters off your land that don't follow your rules, and reclaming the land [2017/03/23 15:20] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): it is a fringe case, but you know why it is getting attn? because big money complainers [2017/03/23 15:20] NOPE (margithe): i see. [2017/03/23 15:21] Duckie Dickins: Trumpism... #corporationsfirst. Just saying. :P [2017/03/23 15:21] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): to be fair, corporatism has been around for some time, heh [2017/03/23 15:21] arton Rotaru: well, if this leads to less ban lines on mainlands that would be cool indeed [2017/03/23 15:22] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): this is still real talk, Mazi, heh [2017/03/23 15:22] NOPE (margithe): Sure, but i thought the isea was not to invent functions that already have box practical fixes & workarounds for what you make. [2017/03/23 15:22] arton Rotaru: but I doubt Gov Linden will do anything with this setting [2017/03/23 15:22] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): arton, it won't [2017/03/23 15:22] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): only in rental estates [2017/03/23 15:22] arton Rotaru: yeah [2017/03/23 15:22] NOPE (margithe): gah, both* practical fixes [2017/03/23 15:22] arton Rotaru: but there seems to be more and more ban lines on the continents [2017/03/23 15:23] Duckie Dickins: well I'm all for less ban lines on water parcels at least....do you know how heartbreaking it is to be sailing along and then collide into a ban line...boat gets stuck.....you're stuck looking for a parcel within a few sims distance to re-rez your boat.... [2017/03/23 15:23] NOPE (margithe): banlines are actually sadly better imo than the scripter security measures [2017/03/23 15:23] arton Rotaru: they both suck [2017/03/23 15:24] NOPE (margithe): you can bounce off a ban line at least. The other sends you home, without your boat. [2017/03/23 15:24] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): balme LL for not giving us scripted means of checking if you're explicitly on a banlist or not [2017/03/23 15:24] NOPE (margithe): anyhow, back to "real talk" i guess. My real take on this is still meh. [2017/03/23 15:24] arton Rotaru: lol [2017/03/23 15:24] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): @yes marg, security orbs can send you home even on public land, heh [2017/03/23 15:24] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): no way to know if you're going to hit one or not [2017/03/23 15:25] NOPE (margithe): right. [2017/03/23 15:25] Mazidox Linden: I don't know if or how it would be used on the mainland, I have heard nothing about that. I do know that there are, as an example, large bodies of water that have banlines in the middle of them, and around the areas that land pokes above the water, and this would alleviate that problem. [2017/03/23 15:25] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): but only on estates, Mazi [2017/03/23 15:25] Mazidox Linden: But I definitely hear that it's not the only problem around overzealous security. [2017/03/23 15:25] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): DLPW is not going to use this [2017/03/23 15:27] Mazidox Linden: My suspicion is that we're not going to dramatically expand the scope of the feature, but if one of you would be so kind as to file a feature request for follow up work to restrict the usage of llTeleportAgentHome() and the like, I can make sure it gets triaged. [2017/03/23 15:28] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I wouldn't, heh [2017/03/23 15:28] arton Rotaru: lol [2017/03/23 15:28] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): yes you would [2017/03/23 15:28] NOPE (margithe): maybe curb it to the parcel the script is on [2017/03/23 15:28] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I'm curious who the backers are for this sepcifically [2017/03/23 15:28] arton Rotaru: Lucy is one of those who requests all the security functions in the first place :p [2017/03/23 15:28] Rex Cronon: maybe we should have llTeleportAgentHome(string simName, vector pos) [2017/03/23 15:28] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): are some EO or EM alt accts getting banned? [2017/03/23 15:28] Rex Cronon: :) [2017/03/23 15:29] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): Rex, I'm for land owner options to control resource usage [2017/03/23 15:29] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): as thats what many of my land owner feature requests have centered around [2017/03/23 15:29] NOPE (margithe): i'm for equal land owner rights ;) [2017/03/23 15:29] Rex Cronon: what is an "eo or em alt account"? [2017/03/23 15:30] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): smh rex [2017/03/23 15:30] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): do you even play this game, lol [2017/03/23 15:30] arton Rotaru: lol [2017/03/23 15:30] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): EO = Estate Owner, EM = Estate Manager [2017/03/23 15:30] Rex Cronon: tooooo many thing tooo remember:) [2017/03/23 15:30] arton Rotaru: IT'S NOT A GAME ^^ [2017/03/23 15:30] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): no it isn't [2017/03/23 15:30] arton Rotaru: just saying [2017/03/23 15:30] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): and yes I know it isn't a game, lol [2017/03/23 15:30] arton Rotaru: because, it had to be said [2017/03/23 15:30] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): it is a lousy experience, lol [2017/03/23 15:30] arton Rotaru: lol [2017/03/23 15:31] arton Rotaru: that word [2017/03/23 15:31] NOPE (margithe): You have to watch your words, Mazidox is still learning. Mazi, this isn't a game. [2017/03/23 15:31] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): Caleb, what is the original jira number for this feature? [2017/03/23 15:31] Rex Cronon: now imagine having this "experience" wearing 3d goggles:) [2017/03/23 15:31] Mazidox Linden: I am very clear on the non-game status of Second Life. [2017/03/23 15:31] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): Rex, redundant [2017/03/23 15:32] NOPE (margithe): I thought the workaround for being banned as a EO, was to make a tiny parcel where you allow yourself [2017/03/23 15:32] Rex Cronon: well if u go to wikipedia sl is listed as a game:) [2017/03/23 15:32] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): afaik, EO's and EM's can't be banned anyway [2017/03/23 15:32] Duckie Dickins: actually it would be hard to roleplay with 3d goggles strapped to your head unless you wish to voice act. :) But that's another discussion for a different project. lol [2017/03/23 15:32] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): manually or scripted [2017/03/23 15:32] Nal (nalates.urriah): http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2015/11/second-life-is-a-game-inventory.html [2017/03/23 15:32] NOPE (margithe): Anyhow, since it's already decided, no meaning to mull over it i suppose. Can we expand on it instead? [2017/03/23 15:32] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): hence why I said, their alts [2017/03/23 15:32] Mazidox Linden: That being said I am rather still learning a lot. [2017/03/23 15:34] NOPE (margithe): i have never been an EO, so know very little of what they have control over and not, aside land textures [2017/03/23 15:34] NOPE (margithe): Perhaps they should be able to override every single setting a parcel has [2017/03/23 15:34] Mazidox Linden: As I mentioned, the most likely course of action to get follow up work is a feature request Jira Margithe. [2017/03/23 15:34] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): try banning yourself through the viewer UI or script, you shouldn't be able to do it [2017/03/23 15:34] NOPE (margithe): then it's consistent at least. [2017/03/23 15:35] Duckie Dickins: anyway, do you have an progress update on https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-41503 [2017/03/23 15:35] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): looking [2017/03/23 15:35] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): deferred [2017/03/23 15:35] Mazidox Linden: What? [2017/03/23 15:35] Mazidox Linden: Untrue. [2017/03/23 15:36] NOPE (margithe): HAHAHAHA [2017/03/23 15:36] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): Mazi, do you know what the original jira number is for the estate feature, because it is sounding like there isn't one, which makes me ask why did this get any kind of priority other than my big money theory, heh [2017/03/23 15:36] arton Rotaru: lol [2017/03/23 15:36] NOPE (margithe): mazi.... we know you didn't make it, [2017/03/23 15:36] NOPE (margithe): cheater. [2017/03/23 15:37] arton Rotaru: looks like re-colored from something else :p [2017/03/23 15:37] NOPE (margithe): that gets an F. [2017/03/23 15:37] arton Rotaru: although, it has nice pants ^^ [2017/03/23 15:38] Mazidox Linden: It's currently lacking hair and an imprint on the shirt. [2017/03/23 15:38] Mazidox Linden: As the name implies, it's a work in progress. [2017/03/23 15:38] arton Rotaru: and it's mesh [2017/03/23 15:38] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): lets do bear pile-on testing [2017/03/23 15:38] NOPE (margithe): Unless YOU are milli mole, this is pretty sad. [2017/03/23 15:38] arton Rotaru: I think that's just fine like it is [2017/03/23 15:38] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): lets answer the question, Lucy posted, heh [2017/03/23 15:38] Mazidox Linden: I'm nowhere near as talented unfortunately. [2017/03/23 15:39] NOPE (margithe): ucy, was that about triaging feature suggestions? [2017/03/23 15:39] Duckie Dickins: wait...isn't mesh cheating? [2017/03/23 15:39] NOPE (margithe): And Mazi, a linden bear has to be something you make on your own, you can't have a mole make it, it's insincere and doesn't come from the heart. [2017/03/23 15:39] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): right now, I'm wanting to know why this estate feature got any priority when it doesn't have a jira request [2017/03/23 15:39] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): who pushed it [2017/03/23 15:40] arton Rotaru: lol @Duckie^^ [2017/03/23 15:40] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): and who pushed them to push it [2017/03/23 15:40] NOPE (margithe): ^---- [2017/03/23 15:40] Rex Cronon: lots of $:) [2017/03/23 15:40] Duckie Dickins: I thought bears were supposed to be a primitive monstrosity so you get to experience the pains and joys of working with primitives. [2017/03/23 15:40] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): lucia, if you really want to investigate, you should ask oz [2017/03/23 15:40] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): that is the assumption Rex [2017/03/23 15:40] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): but I'd like names, lol [2017/03/23 15:41] arton Rotaru: lol [2017/03/23 15:41] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): Oz doesn't answer my IMs [2017/03/23 15:41] NOPE (margithe): Mazidox doesn't answer mine. [2017/03/23 15:41] Duckie Dickins: maybe if you show up to his morning meetings holding signs and pitchforks... [2017/03/23 15:41] Rex Cronon: use an alt name undercoverCEO;) [2017/03/23 15:41] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): actually thats a trend, most Lindens don't reply back, lol [2017/03/23 15:41] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): undercover boss SL edition [2017/03/23 15:42] Mazidox Linden: I generally don't answer IMs, but I do read them. [2017/03/23 15:42] arton Rotaru: lol [2017/03/23 15:42] NOPE (margithe): then nobody knows you read them and they feel dumb for writing you. [2017/03/23 15:42] arton Rotaru: why bother reading [2017/03/23 15:42] Rex Cronon: maybe u have an email u answer:) [2017/03/23 15:43] Duckie Dickins: your bear is suppose to look sad like that. [2017/03/23 15:43] Rex Cronon: not that i have sent u any IM [2017/03/23 15:43] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): that bear looks like Andrew [2017/03/23 15:44] arton Rotaru: looks like Andrew, the other bear [2017/03/23 15:44] arton Rotaru: t2nd [2017/03/23 15:44] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): so I guess I should ask, who do I have to pay to get any features people can actually use to make SL great again, heh [2017/03/23 15:44] Duckie Dickins: or like that. lol [2017/03/23 15:44] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): MSLGA? [2017/03/23 15:44] arton Rotaru: scary^^ [2017/03/23 15:44] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): crowd funded features, smh [2017/03/23 15:45] Rex Cronon: i think u have to own like 100sims:) [2017/03/23 15:45] arton Rotaru: actually, I don't have a single Linden bear [2017/03/23 15:45] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): *squints and pouts lips* [2017/03/23 15:45] Mazidox Linden: I mean, if you all really want me to stick ears and a tail on a plywood cube, I can do that. Probably. [2017/03/23 15:45] Mazidox Linden: But that's about the extent of my building ability. [2017/03/23 15:45] NOPE (margithe): Thats fine [2017/03/23 15:45] NOPE (margithe): you just have to make it yourself to your best ability, with the tools provided. [2017/03/23 15:45] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): funny you mentioned plywood [2017/03/23 15:46] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): so is there ANY news of any REAL shineys? [2017/03/23 15:46] NOPE (margithe): ^---- [2017/03/23 15:46] NOPE (margithe): that [2017/03/23 15:46] Rex Cronon: u put some ball together that bear a resemblance to a bear:) [2017/03/23 15:46] Rex Cronon: some balls* [2017/03/23 15:46] arton Rotaru: just do some lettering on a box prim with BEAR^^ [2017/03/23 15:46] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): as for shiny announcements this is what we got this week [2017/03/23 15:47] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): *that [2017/03/23 15:47] Rex Cronon: and add to each ball a lol script:) [2017/03/23 15:47] Mazidox Linden: I was thinking of putting some quotes into a say on touch script when I'm done. [2017/03/23 15:47] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): Oz for the last 6 months has hinted twice at a land owner feature that "many land owners have been asking for" [2017/03/23 15:47] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): and Rider has allegedly been working on something all this time [2017/03/23 15:48] Rex Cronon: there r people to like to collect all the bear lindens:) [2017/03/23 15:48] NOPE (margithe): So if i write a jira for this new feature, i have no jira to link to it, Lucy? [2017/03/23 15:48] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): and that is all it is? [2017/03/23 15:48] arton Rotaru: so how is that asset type thingy going [2017/03/23 15:48] arton Rotaru: I'm on that project viewer right now [2017/03/23 15:48] Rex Cronon: there r people that like to* [2017/03/23 15:48] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): doesn't sound like there is any jira to reference [2017/03/23 15:48] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): asset type thing has moved back to dev [2017/03/23 15:48] arton Rotaru: oh, so it isn't live on Aditi right now? [2017/03/23 15:48] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): there was something we needed to fix and then retest again [2017/03/23 15:48] NOPE (margithe): I can come up with a dozen of features that MANY land owners have asked for. I have never heard anyone ask for this. And i sit and listen, a lot. [2017/03/23 15:48] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): it's on aditi now [2017/03/23 15:49] arton Rotaru: oki [2017/03/23 15:49] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): but so far so good for you guys? [2017/03/23 15:49] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I haven't heard of it either, nor have I heard of any EO's or EM's complaining about tenant banlists [2017/03/23 15:49] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): so this looks like big money influence to me [2017/03/23 15:49] NOPE (margithe): no names named, but yeah, we all know who. [2017/03/23 15:50] Mazidox Linden: That's all we have to share right now, but we should have more news coming [2017/03/23 15:50] arton Rotaru: I missed last weeks meeting.. DLS time again. are there any test regions for the asset stuff? [2017/03/23 15:50] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I'm not holding my breath [2017/03/23 15:50] Rex Cronon: in sl u need banlists that can go to at least 10k list items... [2017/03/23 15:50] Mazidox Linden: So, Caleb doesn't know this because it *just* happened offline, but Rider walked by my desk and mentioned that there's a Jira, but he didn't know it off the top of his head. [2017/03/23 15:50] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): and when I do hear about shiney, I'll take it as just a change rather than something potentially useful [2017/03/23 15:50] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): ie, I won't get my hopes up [2017/03/23 15:50] NOPE (margithe): btw, is there still a 10 k L$ finders fee on sec jiras? [2017/03/23 15:51] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): only if you are lucky, Marg [2017/03/23 15:51] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I still haven't got paid for my last 4 server crash SEC's [2017/03/23 15:51] NOPE (margithe): thats rather lame. [2017/03/23 15:51] Mazidox Linden: I don't know for sure Margithe. Let me check and I'll have an answer (unless something goes wrong) by next week? [2017/03/23 15:52] NOPE (margithe): no, i just found it in the wiki, tucked away. [2017/03/23 15:52] Mazidox Linden: Lucia, could you send me an IM with those SEC numbers? [2017/03/23 15:52] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I've already sent Simon the list before [2017/03/23 15:52] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): plus, you can also look at my SEC's too [2017/03/23 15:52] Rex Cronon: considering how much other companies pay for bugs, 10k L$ is sooooo little [2017/03/23 15:53] NOPE (margithe): i always get annoyed how if i write a jira, the headers change from what they were when writing, to something completely else when posted, and i was hoping to find some info on that, because i'm done sounding like an idiot in jiras. [2017/03/23 15:53] Mazidox Linden: Simon's doing the tasks of Hercules and more besides. [2017/03/23 15:53] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): its 40 bucks [2017/03/23 15:53] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): no big money influence, ok? [2017/03/23 15:53] Mazidox Linden: I have seen companies where you get a shirt. Or... I think one offered a "thank you postcard". [2017/03/23 15:53] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): sometimes Lindens change jira titles to something general [2017/03/23 15:54] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): sometimes they change them to MAINT without mirroring instead [2017/03/23 15:54] NOPE (margithe): no i mean the boxes where you write stuff in, they have headers, asking you for certain type of info. And after posted, those headers are completely something else. I know at least one of them is utterly misleading [2017/03/23 15:55] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): simon sees the underlying problem and changes the title accordingly [2017/03/23 15:55] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): Caleb, paying out boundies is good for business [2017/03/23 15:55] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): the renaming is mainly for dev's and qa's purpose [2017/03/23 15:56] Mazidox Linden: No, Margithe means that the headers on the form don't match the headers on Jira. [2017/03/23 15:56] NOPE (margithe): you can't tell beforehand what each header is going to be later. Like " describe what is happening" and " steps to reproduce" are two ENTIRELY different things [2017/03/23 15:56] Rex Cronon: a [2017/03/23 15:56] arton Rotaru: hasn't that been fixed a while ago? [2017/03/23 15:56] NOPE (margithe): but thats what gets swappen, from the top of my head. [2017/03/23 15:56] NOPE (margithe): NOOOPE [2017/03/23 15:56] NOPE (margithe): and the rest is super-iffy too [2017/03/23 15:57] arton Rotaru: lol [2017/03/23 15:57] arton Rotaru: I like to ask Whirly if she could write a jira for me^^ [2017/03/23 15:57] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): why can't you do it yourself? [2017/03/23 15:57] arton Rotaru: because.... She loves it^^ [2017/03/23 15:57] arton Rotaru: I hate it [2017/03/23 15:57] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): do it anyway [2017/03/23 15:58] arton Rotaru: I have to think to long to do such techie things in enlish [2017/03/23 15:58] Mazidox Linden: I noticed that a few weeks ago Margithe. It slipped through the cracks again, but I'll add it to the list of open items. [2017/03/23 15:58] arton Rotaru: english even [2017/03/23 15:58] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): do it anyway [2017/03/23 15:58] arton Rotaru: lol you see [2017/03/23 15:58] NOPE (margithe): i hate it too. because the headers get swapped and i don't know what to write where, because it ends up in the wrong place anyways. it's ungoidly frustrating [2017/03/23 15:58] Mazidox Linden: And we'll see if we can get the wording to match, because it drives me a bit nuts too :) [2017/03/23 15:58] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I always make a book mark for any jira I'm interested in or ones I file [2017/03/23 15:59] Duckie Dickins: Yeah I noticed it myself when creating that bear jira. [2017/03/23 15:59] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): so I can search my bookmarks for keywords instead of LL's jira [2017/03/23 15:59] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): alright, folks. don't get discouraged, we see you next week [2017/03/23 15:59] NOPE (margithe): lol [2017/03/23 15:59] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): too late [2017/03/23 15:59] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): already disappointed [2017/03/23 15:59] NOPE (margithe): well, we do feel like we're treading mud here [2017/03/23 15:59] arton Rotaru: alrighty, have a good one every1 [2017/03/23 15:59] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): you think shiney's are a game? [2017/03/23 15:59] Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): heh [2017/03/23 15:59] NOPE (margithe): Also, Mazidox, did you read your IM >.< [2017/03/23 15:59] Rex Cronon: i g2g. tc everybody [2017/03/23 15:59] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Thank you, Caleb. 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