User:Darrius Gothly/Community Tools User Group 2011-04-07

Attendees List

• Amanda Linden (amanda.linden) (User's Wiki Page)
• Arawn Graalrd (arawn.spitteler)
• bob Iwashi (bob.iwashi)
• Kraptacular Kat (bronson.blackadder)
• Caitlin 'Caity' Tobias (caitlin.tobias)
• Catwise Yoshikawa (catwise.yoshikawa) (User's Wiki Page)
• Lord of Dee (ciaran.laval)
• Daniel Voyager (daniel.voyager) (User's Wiki Page)
• Darrius Gothly (darrius.gothly) (User's Wiki Page)
• DogWomble Dollinger (dogwomble.dollinger)
• Dee (dq.darwin)
• Dresden Ceriano (dresden.ceriano) (User's Wiki Page)
• Jeremy Linden (jeremy.linden) (User's Wiki Page)
• Lexie (lexie.linden)
• Liisa Runo (liisa.runo)
• Mags Indigo (mags.indigo)
• Marianne McCann (marianne.mccann) (User's Wiki Page)
• Marigold Devin (marigold.devin)
• Peewee Musytari (peewee.musytari)
• Qie (qie.niangao)
• Rand (rand.linden)
• Torben (torben.trautman)
• Tsaheylu (tsaheylu)
• Veleda Lorakeet (veleda.lorakeet)
• Venus Petrov (venus.petrov)
• COCOON (wildcat.furse)
• Wilhiam Hydraconis (wilhiam.hydraconis)

Transcript for Thursday April 7, 2011

[12:57]	Mags Indigo	(that I understand)
[12:57]	Venus Petrov	hiya Darrius
[12:57]	Amanda Linden	hey all, we'll get started in a little bit.
[12:57]	Dee	hi Mags
[12:57]	Darrius Gothly	Howdy all.
[12:57]	Mags Indigo	yo Dee & Darrius and Lexie
[12:57]	Peewee Musytari	hiya wildcat
[12:57]	Peewee Musytari	=^^= ~~ SNEEEEZES!~~ =^^=
[12:57]	COCOON	O.o *mew* *mew* o.O
[12:57]	COCOON	☠ °•·.·´¯`·.·•✰ ◕‿◕ ✰•·.·´¯`·.·•☠
[12:57]	COCOON	hey peewee ;o)
[12:58]	COCOON	Bites ℠
[12:58]	Mags Indigo	hello DogW
[12:58]	Catwise Yoshikawa	hi
[12:58]	Peewee Musytari	Aah!
[12:58]	DogWomble Dollinger	hey mags
[12:58]	Mags Indigo	and hi Qui and everyone else I missed
[12:58]	Veleda Lorakeet	Is it alwasy this busy?
[12:58]	Amanda Linden	usually busier. more folks will join, i'm sure.
[12:58]	Qie	Hi Mags, all.
[12:58]	Mags Indigo	it's quiet this evening
[12:58]	Amanda Linden	we're a lively bunch
[12:59]	Mags Indigo	:-)
[12:59]	Amanda Linden	:)
[12:59]	Daniel Voyager	Yup
[12:59]	Amanda Linden	ok, agenda is here.
[12:59]	Amanda Linden	http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Tools_User_Group
[12:59]	Veleda Lorakeet	AH ok
[12:59]	Amanda Linden	we'll get started in a min or two
[12:59]	Amanda Linden	kk
[12:59]	Veleda Lorakeet	havin a look
[12:59]	Mags Indigo	notes how she manages to get even 3 letters totally screwed up
[12:59]	Darrius Gothly	waves at Amanda ...
[12:59]	Amanda Linden	waves at darrius
[12:59]	Darrius Gothly	fixes Amanda's Shift key ... (grin)
[13:00]	Amanda Linden	:)
[13:00]	COCOON	O.o *mew* *mew* o.O
[13:00]	COCOON	☠ °•·.·´¯`·.·•✰ ◕‿◕ ✰•·.·´¯`·.·•☠
[13:00]	Amanda Linden	ok, ready to go???
[13:00]	COCOON	heuy wil
[13:00]	Peewee Musytari	=^.^= *Nahm Nahm Nahm!*
[13:00]	DogWomble Dollinger	always amanda
[13:00]	Amanda Linden	fab.
[13:00]	Venus Petrov	hiya Wil
[13:00]	Amanda Linden	ok, first lexie has some updates for us, before we dive into the agenda.
[13:00]	Lexie	㋡
[13:00]	Amanda Linden	lexie, it's all yours.
[13:00]	Lexie	ok
[13:01]	Wilhiam Hydraconis	hello Venus .. hello eeryone
[13:01]	Mags Indigo	hiya Wil :-)
[13:01]	Peewee Musytari	heya wil
[13:01]	Mags Indigo	(we meet at last)
[13:01]	Lexie	We have quite afew things in the works.
[13:01]	Wilhiam Hydraconis	lol Mags .. we do
[13:01]	Lexie	UI Updates are being worked on such as adding a reply button to the bottom of the page instead of only having it at the top. You should see some of those updates in place next week.
[13:01]	Mags Indigo	oh yes - ta for making it so we see who is replying to who
[13:01]	Lexie	We have more emoticons coming ㋡
[13:01]	Mags Indigo	that's terrific and easy now
[13:01]	Torben	yay
[13:01]	Peewee Musytari	\o/ "YAYYYY!!!"
[13:01]	Peewee Musytari	||
[13:01]	Peewee Musytari	_/\_
[13:02]	Peewee Musytari	a confused one?
[13:02]	Peewee Musytari	hehe
[13:02]	Lexie	haha
[13:02]	Torben	hi Mari
[13:02]	Marianne McCann	Hiya
[13:02]	Darrius Gothly	Any ETA on those updates Lexie?
[13:02]	Lexie	Should be before we meet next week
[13:02]	Lexie	also..
[13:02]	Darrius Gothly	Poifekt!
[13:02]	Lexie	Re: IE9 issues with our forums. Lithium is aware of that issue from us and other companies. They are working on it. They do recommend using compatibility mode as a work around.
[13:03]	Lexie	Will keep you updated on that
[13:03]	Mags Indigo	kk
[13:03]	Darrius Gothly	TY
[13:03]	Mags Indigo	ticks things off
[13:03]	Peewee Musytari	kk
[13:03]	Mags Indigo	I mean on paper
[13:03]	Amanda Linden	ha
[13:03]	Lexie	Registration date display..
[13:03]	Mags Indigo	please get rid
[13:03]	DogWomble Dollinger	paper? what's that?
[13:03]	Mags Indigo	it's a total naff thing
[13:03]	Lexie	Registration date display is related to the fact that most accounts were moved over from the old Jive system. This may be causing a problem with turning off that display. I will review it with Raymond Linden next week.
[13:04]	Lexie	If we can turn it off..we will!
[13:04]	Lexie	㋡
[13:04]	Qie	yay!
[13:04]	Mags Indigo	cool ta for that
[13:04]	Venus Petrov	or use the rez date if you need a date, perhaps?
[13:04]	Peewee Musytari	noo I look old then
[13:04]	Darrius Gothly	Aww .. I wanna be an oldbie. Can he put like 1-1-1978 in there for me?
[13:04]	Peewee Musytari	lol
[13:04]	COCOON	rez date is better ^^
[13:04]	Lexie	That would be ideal Venus but might be hard to do
[13:04]	Mags Indigo	yes - much more 'real' than some strange non-date
[13:04]	Venus Petrov	hehe
[13:04]	Veleda Lorakeet	grins
[13:04]	Lexie	ohh and:
[13:04]	DogWomble Dollinger	hi jeremy, i hope i didn't steal your seat
[13:04]	Liisa Runo	votes for rez-date
[13:05]	Peewee Musytari	heya jeremy
[13:05]	Darrius Gothly	votes for rez date too
[13:05]	Jeremy Linden	Someone's been sitting in my chair, and there he is!
[13:05]	Catwise Yoshikawa	rez day would be better
[13:05]	Marianne McCann	Ya, i don;t think many wil disagree on rez date
[13:05]	Lexie	Also, html settings will be updated to allow user tags such as tables and headings. This will help with localizing and kb contributors.
[13:05]	Lexie	That you will see next week too
[13:05]	Mags Indigo	smiles as though she understands that :-)
[13:05]	Marianne McCann	cool
[13:05]	Darrius Gothly	Heading tags too? <h1>, <h2>, etc?
[13:05]	Lexie	right Darrius
[13:06]	Darrius Gothly	Tyvm!
[13:06]	Lexie	Thats the update for now!
[13:06]	Amanda Linden	thanks lexie
[13:06]	Peewee Musytari	wow it will look so professional in there hehe
[13:06]	Mags Indigo	that's the agenda almost torn up
[13:06]	Lexie	haha
[13:06]	Venus Petrov	humm
[13:06]	Amanda Linden	ha
[13:06]	Amanda Linden	ok, next is venus' reqeust for adult public forum.
[13:06]	Venus Petrov	yes, again....
[13:06]	Amanda Linden	unfortunately, i've confirmed on this end that we jus can't do that right now.
[13:06]	Venus Petrov	and the backup plan?
[13:06]	Venus Petrov	because....
[13:06]	Amanda Linden	not until we get age verification (not on road map)
[13:06]	Amanda Linden	at the moment anyway
[13:07]	Amanda Linden	the best solution is the private forum for adult.
[13:07]	Amanda Linden	i've asked blondin to contact u venus.
[13:07]	Darrius Gothly	That'll work.
[13:07]	Venus Petrov	yes, that's fine ㋡
[13:07]	Mags Indigo	kk
[13:07]	Amanda Linden	that's where the business owners can discuss adult business in a private setting.
[13:07]	Amanda Linden	and where we can make sure that everyone in there is adult verified.
[13:07]	Venus Petrov	this was for residents
[13:07]	Darrius Gothly	Well .. adult contributors .. not just business owners.
[13:07]	Amanda Linden	sure, just ask blondin for access.
[13:07]	Venus Petrov	unless you are suggesting they be added ?
[13:07]	Amanda Linden	he's the owner of the adult community (on the linden side)
[13:07]	Lord of Dee	Blondin specially selected people for that forum
[13:08]	Venus Petrov	ok, let me understand you
[13:08]	Amanda Linden	no one can own a community, I know. :)
[13:08]	Amanda Linden	so, that's the best we can do for now.
[13:08]	Veleda Lorakeet	imagines him coming home.. how was yer day?
[13:08]	Amanda Linden	same goes for LGBT community.
[13:08]	Peewee Musytari	i asked for access and was put on a waiting list :(
[13:08]	DogWomble Dollinger	i know what you mean amanda :
[13:08]	Venus Petrov	residents can ask Blondin to be added to the adult community subforum?
[13:08]	Lord of Dee	Not according to Blondin
[13:08]	bob Iwashi	unless you're gung-ho-aloha, the sun flip flop worshipper amanda, then you can
[13:08]	Amanda Linden	peewee, did you talk to blondin?
[13:08]	Mags Indigo	he ignores me :(
[13:08]	Wilhiam Hydraconis	Marigold ^.^
[13:08]	Mags Indigo	which is probably understandable
[13:08]	Lord of Dee	I talked to Blondin
[13:08]	Peewee Musytari	yeah u forwarded on my request amanda
[13:08]	Marigold Devin	whispers belated his to Wilhiam, everyone
[13:08]	Peewee Musytari	and blondin replied
[13:09]	Amanda Linden	i'll ping him to let you in.
[13:09]	Peewee Musytari	cool ty
[13:09]	Amanda Linden	if anyone has troubles there, let me know.
[13:09]	Darrius Gothly	Can we do a Post about that forum in Community Feedback .. to let others now it exists and can be accessed with proper methods?
[13:09]	Venus Petrov	residents can request to be added??
[13:09]	Darrius Gothly	*know
[13:09]	Venus Petrov	i want to be clear on this outcome please
[13:09]	Lord of Dee	No Venus not really,. or that wasn't the intent of that forum anyway
[13:09]	Mags Indigo	I've requested a few times
[13:09]	Wilhiam Hydraconis	Better make it PG post about adults, Darrius.
[13:09]	Mags Indigo	:(
[13:09]	Qie	FWIW, Blondin *should* be at an Events user group right after this, unless my calendar is messed up.
[13:09]	Amanda Linden	not general consumers of adult content.
[13:09]	Amanda Linden	but, adult b usiness owners/merchants.
[13:09]	Darrius Gothly	*nods* @ Wil
[13:10]	Lord of Dee	It's large landowners and business
[13:10]	Darrius Gothly	Oh ... hmm .. why not?
[13:10]	Venus Petrov	well, can we as residents have a forum where access is granted the same way?
[13:10]	Venus Petrov	this is what I have been asking for
[13:10]	Amanda Linden	no, i'm sorry venus.
[13:10]	Darrius Gothly	I agree with Venus.
[13:10]	Amanda Linden	i realize that the decision is unpopular.
[13:10]	Venus Petrov	why not, may i ask?
[13:10]	Venus Petrov	open only to residents that ask.
[13:10]	Lord of Dee	You don't want to go hijacking Blondin's forum
[13:10]	Amanda Linden	but, this is a g forum and we just cannot host a public adult discussion on our forums.
[13:10]	Amanda Linden	public forums
[13:10]	Mags Indigo	unpopular is possibly a polite way of saying it
[13:10]	Amanda Linden	i know.
[13:11]	Venus Petrov	it would not be public
[13:11]	Darrius Gothly	It won't be public, it will be by admission only.
[13:11]	Amanda Linden	and, i'm sensitive to your needs.
[13:11]	Catwise Yoshikawa	but you could a add a private forum for adults
[13:11]	Venus Petrov	open only to residents that ask for access
[13:11]	Qie	there could be a *different* private forum created, but it would take overhead in manually checking age verification, I guess
[13:11]	Amanda Linden	let me discuss with blondin.
[13:11]	DogWomble Dollinger	well amanda, even if it's 'unpopular' at least it's something until the age verification thing finds a solution
[13:11]	Venus Petrov	this is what i have been asking for, please.
[13:11]	Mags Indigo	hi Marigold
[13:11]	Venus Petrov	not a public forum
[13:11]	Venus Petrov	on adult topics
[13:11]	Mags Indigo	and Caitlin
[13:11]	Darrius Gothly	Please do. At least it gives us a backroom to take topics that are too sensitive for general eyes.
[13:11]	bob Iwashi	let ll hire a "social media networking noobie sex club forum integration manager!" to deal with it
[13:11]	Amanda Linden	keep in mind, that the community guideliens still apply even in private forums.
[13:12]	Amanda Linden	meaning, i think that you'll all get really frustrated not being able to discuss adult things as freely as you would like.
[13:12]	Amanda Linden	no nudity, etc.
[13:12]	Venus Petrov	that is fine, at least the topics can be more , adult
[13:12]	Mags Indigo	yes - I can be polite and avoid rude words
[13:12]	COCOON	I do hope the pictures posted too ^^
[13:12]	Peewee Musytari	u can`t post nekkid? :((
[13:12]	Darrius Gothly	e.g. Relationships and their intracacies.
[13:12]	Lord of Dee	It's not a perving forum people are asking for Amanda!
[13:12]	Mags Indigo	it's 'concepts' I think we'd like freedom over
[13:12]	Amanda Linden	ok, but i think the frustration factno, i'm sorry.
[13:12]	Amanda Linden	sorry, two thoughts in one.
[13:12]	Amanda Linden	:)
[13:12]	Qie	speak for yourself, Ciaran
[13:13]	Venus Petrov	yes, relationship issues, etc
[13:13]	Darrius Gothly	LOL @ Qie
[13:13]	Wilhiam Hydraconis	heh
[13:13]	Amanda Linden	venus, let me take that back.
[13:13]	Amanda Linden	i realize you've been asking for a while.
[13:13]	Venus Petrov	so a non-public forum where we can gain access via request to a linden
[13:13]	Venus Petrov	yes, like weeks lol
[13:13]	Amanda Linden	a private forum may be solution, as long as the guidelines are followed.
[13:13]	Venus Petrov	that is all we are asking for
[13:13]	Amanda Linden	blondin would need to manage, so i need to ask him.
[13:13]	Amanda Linden	ok, gotchya.
[13:13]	Venus Petrov	some privacy ...laughs
[13:13]	Amanda Linden	progress, right?
[13:13]	Mags Indigo	is wondering will Venus begin to tantrum etc if she doesn't get what she wants soon
[13:14]	Lexie	㋡
[13:14]	Venus Petrov	laughs no
[13:14]	Mags Indigo	not that I'm thinking of anyone in particular
[13:14]	Mags Indigo	or anything
[13:14]	Darrius Gothly	And the mods are made aware that concepts not fit for public consumption are okay to post in there.
[13:14]	Venus Petrov	at least not that you would notice
[13:14]	Amanda Linden	no, your request has been totally reasonable.
[13:14]	Wilhiam Hydraconis	no Mags .. that'susually somebody else doing that ^.^
[13:14]	Amanda Linden	venus, answer next week. promise.
[13:14]	Amanda Linden	cool?
[13:14]	Mags Indigo	grins at Wil
[13:14]	Venus Petrov	thank you, Amanda
[13:14]	Amanda Linden	kk
[13:14]	Dresden Ceriano	unless the answer is no
[13:14]	Dresden Ceriano	lol
[13:15]	Venus Petrov	shush Dres!
[13:15]	Peewee Musytari	lol
[13:15]	Amanda Linden	now, interesting dconcept re: RIC.
[13:15]	Venus Petrov	perish the thought
[13:15]	Wilhiam Hydraconis	ah
[13:15]	Venus Petrov	oh yes RIC
[13:15]	Amanda Linden	i think that anyone can RIC any content on the forums/blogs.
[13:15]	Lexie	yes
[13:15]	Amanda Linden	not limited to those in the discussion. right lexie?
[13:15]	Lexie	correct
[13:15]	Venus Petrov	even ninja RIC? drive-by RIC?
[13:15]	Venus Petrov	laughs
[13:15]	Veleda Lorakeet	wonders what RIC is
[13:15]	Amanda Linden	it doesn't happen too often actuall.
[13:15]	Wilhiam Hydraconis	so RIC is rife for abuse :(
[13:15]	Amanda Linden	reports are really calming down.
[13:15]	Darrius Gothly	Report Inappropriate Content
[13:15]	Venus Petrov	that is good to hear
[13:16]	Veleda Lorakeet	ah ok
[13:16]	Amanda Linden	yeah, no bans (assied from obvious spam) for two weeks now
[13:16]	Peewee Musytari	wouldn`t u want to RIC spam without replying to it though?
[13:16]	Marianne McCann	Reluctant Inner Core
[13:16]	Venus Petrov	it just did not make sense to me that someone might RIC a post and not even have contributed to the topic
[13:16]	Lexie	I think trying to have the system filter who has participated in a thread before they can ric, would be a drain on the overall platform. We have many residents.
[13:16]	Amanda Linden	that's not how the system works...
[13:16]	Dresden Ceriano	aren't there repercussions for RICing inappropriately?
[13:16]	Wilhiam Hydraconis	i noticed you don't get notified if being RIC'd against..
[13:16]	Venus Petrov	well, my understanding is that a mod looks at each RIC
[13:16]	Darrius Gothly	And just because you don't post .. doesn't mean you find the post "acceptable"
[13:17]	Amanda Linden	mods do.
[13:17]	Lord of Dee	Surely people should be able to report without participating
[13:17]	DogWomble Dollinger	well, i think there is a bit of room for allowing randoms to RIC
[13:17]	Lexie	Its also not set up to work that way. We cannot flip a switch to make it happen.
[13:17]	COCOON	today there was a spam post about whatever horse ranch as favorite destination ....... would be strange to post there first ......
[13:17]	Marianne McCann	Venus. Could not one see, say, a post that is clearly over the line and RIC without having to reply on the discussion? Does that not lead to posts of "Imma report you!"
[13:17]	Veleda Lorakeet	And what is a forum without lurkers really, should they be void of rights?
[13:17]	DogWomble Dollinger	there's the 'obvious' cases where that should happen, alerting to spam e
[13:17]	Venus Petrov	neigh
[13:17]	COCOON	before it can be RIC'd
[13:17]	Venus Petrov	laughs
[13:17]	bob Iwashi	are teh mods lindens or scouts?
[13:17]	Amanda Linden	guys, i need to step away for a few mins. have a blog post to push. stay tuned. be right back
[13:17]	Marigold Devin	agrees with Darrius, you can disagree with the content of a thread/post without being part of it
[13:17]	Lexie	Mods are Lindens bob
[13:17]	Lexie	not scouts
[13:17]	bob Iwashi	hallelujah
[13:17]	Peewee Musytari	yeah I agree, feeding a troll before reporting it seems odd to me
[13:18]	COCOON	lol peewee ^^
[13:18]	bob Iwashi	some sense left in the world then
[13:18]	Venus Petrov	snorts
[13:18]	Darrius Gothly	I don't gotta step in dog pooh to object to it on the sidewalk. (just saying...)
[13:18]	Lexie	hehe peewee
[13:18]	Veleda Lorakeet	Indeed
[13:18]	DogWomble Dollinger	darrius i promise it's not mine
[13:18]	Dresden Ceriano	lies
[13:18]	Dresden Ceriano	lol
[13:18]	Darrius Gothly	*sniff sniff* Yuo sure??? heheheh
[13:18]	Veleda Lorakeet	Does it look happy?
[13:18]	Venus Petrov	ewwwww
[13:19]	Veleda Lorakeet	Than it might be from someone i know
[13:19]	Darrius Gothly	Sorry .. we derailed you Amanda .. what about RIC's again?
[13:19]	bob Iwashi	where's raymond linden today please lexie or jeremy?
[13:19]	Lexie	She stepped away
[13:19]	Amanda Linden	sorry--i need to step away for a sec.
[13:19]	Rand	raymond is out today
[13:19]	Amanda Linden	brb
[13:19]	Venus Petrov	she said RIC early and often
[13:19]	COCOON	he was fired?
[13:19]	Darrius Gothly	LOL
[13:19]	bob Iwashi	oh :( he promised us an update
[13:19]	Liisa Runo	(Wildcat, your AO is missing anim 'VAtalk01_SL_v01' and spamming errors)
[13:19]	Rand	no no
[13:20]	Rand	bob, on what specifically?
[13:20]	Jeremy Linden	Heh. Raymond is out today, but he will be back. :-)
[13:20]	COCOON	ah ^^
[13:20]	Lexie	I can respond to the aganeda item about Answers and the naming of it.
[13:20]	Lexie	agenda*
[13:20]	DogWomble Dollinger	deep voice: "i'll be back"
[13:20]	COCOON	AO off ...
[13:20]	bob Iwashi	on whether Support Lindens will hold a one off meeting to hear residents concerns over the scouts, and their lack of knowledge
[13:20]	Peewee Musytari	ooh yus lexie
[13:21]	bob Iwashi	and to let us know why we can no longer make complaint tickets
[13:21]	bob Iwashi	to make our concerns known
[13:21]	Lexie	We are thinking about it, but it is not top of the list just yet. It would require lots of updates to things as well. Right now we are looking more at UI issues.
[13:21]	Lexie	But, name change is still on the table and I do think it makes sense
[13:21]	Peewee Musytari	kk so its on the long term list?
[13:21]	Darrius Gothly	TY
[13:21]	Lexie	yes
[13:21]	Peewee Musytari	kewl ty
[13:22]	Rand	Bob: I do know that he raised the issue of UG with the support team, but I don't know what the result was..
[13:22]	Lexie	Also the Answers updates:
[13:22]	Lexie	oh I can answer that Bob
[13:22]	Peewee Musytari	we are getting all our wish list Lexie? :D
[13:22]	Qie	ninja-edits the agenda
[13:22]	Lexie	Re: Support User Group - There is none planned at this time. But, there are some changes happening in support so we will keep the request on the radar and let you know if we have any news.
[13:22]	Marianne McCann	wonders if we're on a set agenda today
[13:23]	Veleda Lorakeet	oi
[13:23]	Veleda Lorakeet	LOL
[13:23]	Lexie	So, that is a "maybe later"
[13:23]	Lexie	㋡
[13:23]	DogWomble Dollinger	Marianne: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Tools_User_Group :D
[13:23]	Darrius Gothly	puts more icing on the Support UG "suggestion cake" ...
[13:23]	Amanda Linden	ok, back
[13:23]	Marianne McCann	smiles
[13:23]	Marianne McCann	THaanks, Dog. It felt a bit scattered, so I wanted t'make sure
[13:23]	DogWomble Dollinger	wb amanda
[13:23]	Peewee Musytari	wb
[13:23]	Veleda Lorakeet	wb
[13:23]	Mags Indigo	wb
[13:23]	Amanda Linden	thanks. just put up a blog post on the new sl viewer beta.
[13:23]	Marianne McCann	Welcome back!
[13:23]	Amanda Linden	oh, and did i mention enhanced avatar phyics?
[13:23]	Darrius Gothly	Shame on you .. working during a meeting. LOL
[13:24]	Amanda Linden	yes, bouncy.
[13:24]	Lexie	lol
[13:24]	Amanda Linden	http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Tools-and-Technology/Introducing-the-Updated-SL-Viewer-Beta-with-Enhanced-Avatar/ba-p/803711
[13:24]	Amanda Linden	(just an fyi.)
[13:24]	Peewee Musytari	lol
[13:24]	DogWomble Dollinger	you mean bouncy is coming to the main viewer?
[13:24]	Amanda Linden	yep. it' is.
[13:24]	Veleda Lorakeet	Ah that was the one that just downloaded Manada?
[13:24]	Veleda Lorakeet	ehmAmanda
[13:24]	Amanda Linden	it was updated 5 mins ago.
[13:24]	Marianne McCann	I hope to one day see those. If v2.3 and above would stop, you know, lockign up on Macs.
[13:24]	Veleda Lorakeet	Yes just got it
[13:24]	Peewee Musytari	just don`t mention it on the forums lol
[13:24]	Amanda Linden	yep, that's the new beta.
[13:24]	DogWomble Dollinger	ok, i can see a new round of immature minded people having fun with that amanda :)
[13:24]	Venus Petrov	lol Peewee
[13:25]	Amanda Linden	well, it should be a crowd pleaser.
[13:25]	Amanda Linden	:)
[13:25]	Amanda Linden	ok, back to our meeting sorry.
[13:25]	Venus Petrov	i think 'bounce' is an acceptable word..just bleep the body bits
[13:25]	Darrius Gothly	<-- member of the immature and gleefully so crowd
[13:25]	Dee	which crowd?
[13:25]	Amanda Linden	where were we?
[13:25]	DogWomble Dollinger	touche amanda
[13:25]	Lord of Dee	You really need to fix visibility for your blog posts
[13:25]	Mags Indigo	hmmm not too interested in 'physics'
[13:25]	Amanda Linden	lexie, i tried to make it featured...
[13:25]	Wilhiam Hydraconis	bouncing mammary glands .. yayz... :|
[13:25]	Mags Indigo	at my age everything moves too much in rl
[13:25]	Amanda Linden	oh well. technology/then featured.
[13:25]	Peewee Musytari	lexie was about to make answers better :)
[13:25]	Darrius Gothly	LOL @ Mags
[13:25]	Amanda Linden	ok, carry on.
[13:25]	Veleda Lorakeet	but we figured that you would be much more interested in avatars bouncing and jiggling :-)))
[13:25]	Mags Indigo	I like things staying right where I put them here
[13:25]	Marianne McCann	It's a fine feature I'll never have a use for. But I'm sure it's gonna be a hit
[13:26]	Marianne McCann	grins
[13:26]	Lexie	Ok, Answers improvements:
[13:26]	Veleda Lorakeet	Sorry about that :-)
[13:26]	Lexie	I know the layout is causing frustration
[13:26]	Peewee Musytari	nods
[13:26]	Lexie	It seems to center around the comments portion
[13:26]	Marigold Devin	It really is
[13:26]	Catwise Yoshikawa	is a nice feture for machimina :p
[13:26]	Darrius Gothly	*nods* @ Lexie
[13:26]	Dresden Ceriano	i don't get it at all
[13:26]	Liisa Runo	from the web page: "Since the physics are controlled by a wearable object, you have the ability to easily customize and personalize your settings just as if you were editing any other clothing item. So whether you want lots of movement, or only a bit, you can adjust your settings and they will apply only to your avatar’s targeted body part. "
[13:26]	Peewee Musytari	very much so lexie
[13:26]	Lexie	So, I think there may be 2 possible options.
[13:27]	Lexie	One, have all comments expanded by default so it all flows better, ..
[13:27]	Dee	yes
[13:27]	Darrius Gothly	(blech)
[13:27]	Lexie	Or 2: See if we can disable that comment feature
[13:27]	Darrius Gothly	Turn it into the Forum Thread style presentation?
[13:27]	Lord of Dee	There's a distinct lack of consistency with Answers
[13:28]	Lexie	I am checking on both options to see if either is something we can actually implement
[13:28]	Peewee Musytari	there are other subforums that have the ability to mark correct answers and give kudos, but they are like normal forums...can it not just be made into one like that?
[13:28]	Wilhiam Hydraconis	agrees . Make Answers like normal forum where commenting is concerned
[13:28]	Lexie	I don't have the answers yet but Im with you on trying to change it!
[13:28]	Darrius Gothly	TY Lexie
[13:28]	Dresden Ceriano	great
[13:28]	Marigold Devin	Normal - more consistent. Especially for the newer residents who come along, its so confusing currently.
[13:29]	Lexie	Peewee Accepted solutions is part of answers. I think we want to keep that and it ties into the Answers style pages better than in the general forum layout
[13:29]	Peewee Musytari	you can`t even mark a comment as the correct answer when it is, so its defeating the purpose of that aspect too
[13:29]	Venus Petrov	you could even take away the kudos if you made it more 'regular forum-like'
[13:29]	Lord of Dee	and can you make view all stay open? I click view all to see further questions and then when I go back to answers it's closed again
[13:29]	Lexie	hmm, I can check Lord of Dee
[13:30]	Lexie	agreed on the comment cannot be an "answer" peewee
[13:30]	Lord of Dee	Thanks Lexie
[13:30]	Lexie	That is a bit confusing
[13:30]	Darrius Gothly	There is some debate about what affect Kudos have on Rank. Can you confirm that Kudos do indeed figure into someone gaining (or losing) Rank?
[13:31]	Lexie	They do, but are just one part of the formula
[13:31]	Peewee Musytari	u can lose rank? eeps
[13:31]	Mags Indigo	is doomed to never be ranked
[13:31]	Darrius Gothly	Can you publish that formula please?
[13:31]	Marigold Devin	I don't care about rank
[13:31]	Wilhiam Hydraconis	oh.. no more Kudos for me please , everyone ;P :)
[13:31]	Lexie	Yes, I see some "experimenting" with that by Residents on the forum
[13:31]	Venus Petrov	lol Wil
[13:31]	Darrius Gothly	LOL @ experiments
[13:31]	Mags Indigo	:-)
[13:31]	Peewee Musytari	lol
[13:31]	Lexie	㋡
[13:32]	Dee	some:)
[13:32]	Marigold Devin	But I will probably kudos peewee to the hilt because she is fabulous - and how that remark will put the cat among the pigeons I am sure
[13:32]	Amanda Linden	rand/jeremy do you have any updates for us re: KB?
[13:32]	Peewee Musytari	Aah!
[13:32]	Peewee Musytari	too many koodies
[13:32]	Wilhiam Hydraconis	pigeons ? .. i'm not with pigeons here, am i ? :|
[13:32]	Rand	Yes, some minor things re: the KB
[13:32]	COCOON	lol
[13:32]	Darrius Gothly	Right now, because Rank formula is so hidden .. I think folks get the wrong idea about what it means. If we know how it's calculated, it would help us understand its meaning better.
[13:33]	Jeremy Linden	is currently working on getting the existing KB articles up to date and into a consistent writing style. Slow but sure. :-)
[13:33]	Rand	We've added the ability for KB articles edited by Resident contributors to use images from the wiki.
[13:33]	Venus Petrov	yes, a bit of transparency would be helpful
[13:33]	Peewee Musytari	seems to be a combo of solutions and koodies from what I`ve seen
[13:33]	Lexie	Darrius, if we put the formula out there, it is more likely to be gamed. Don't you think?
[13:33]	Rand	Since most of the current KB articles were migrated from wiki, the images stayed there, so this enables contributors to edit those articles without any issue
[13:34]	Torben	but we could game it on a way better level Lexie ;)
[13:34]	Darrius Gothly	No .. people will game no matter what. They're already doing it by experimenting. The desire to anti-game just hides the truth rather than deters the gamers.
[13:34]	Peewee Musytari	heya rand...didn`t see u come in
[13:34]	Marigold Devin	Not at all, Lexie. If anything is going to be gamed, its going to be gamed regardless.
[13:34]	Amanda Linden	rand, hold on a sec.
[13:34]	Amanda Linden	guess the kudos discussion wasn't finished. :)
[13:34]	Rand	And as Lexie said, we're about to get the issue with prohibited HTML tags fixed (eg. <h1> <h2> <table> etc)
[13:34]	Rand	oop sorry
[13:34]	Dee	we at least can all game from the same start point
[13:34]	Qie	just change the formula; every other week multiply by -1
[13:34]	Venus Petrov	laughs
[13:35]	Darrius Gothly	Evil Qie .. very very evil! LOL
[13:35]	Peewee Musytari	oh my lord
[13:35]	Veleda Lorakeet	coughs and slips away waving a bit with some extremity
[13:35]	Peewee Musytari	can u imagine the posts
[13:35]	Darrius Gothly	agrees with Dee ... puts us all on equal footing
[13:35]	Lexie	I think knowing the contributing parts of the formula, as is stated on the Help info..should be enough.
[13:35]	Dee	ty Darrius :)
[13:36]	Mags Indigo	I might have to start being 'nice'
[13:36]	Mags Indigo	yuk
[13:36]	Lexie	Besides, you all dont care about ranks anyway right? *wink*
[13:36]	Darrius Gothly	LOL
[13:36]	Lexie	㋡
[13:36]	Wilhiam Hydraconis	i don't wanna be some überkudo anway .. :|
[13:36]	Lord of Dee	Yes Lexie, I'd rather mute them
[13:36]	Lord of Dee	:p
[13:36]	Mags Indigo	I'd like the rank of 'honoured crone' please
[13:36]	Darrius Gothly	It's more that people not deeply immersed in Forum Culture see the Ranks as meaning "That there is a good person .. cuz they haz rank."
[13:36]	Marigold Devin	Remove my rank and kudos, Lexie and watch. You'll get the same input from me, regardless, for whatever that's worth.
[13:36]	Dee	kill hudo's Tshirts would they sell?
[13:37]	Dee	Kudos
[13:37]	Wilhiam Hydraconis	well said, Marigold .. applies to me as well
[13:37]	Peewee Musytari	so long as ranks don`t stop people doing what they want to do on the forums I`m not sure what diff it makes whats ranks we have tbh
[13:37]	Marigold Devin	It's misleading. Some people really don't seem to deserve their rank, it takes the michael out of those who do.
[13:37]	Marianne McCann	has managed to maintain her "honored whatever" rank regardless of current paeticipation, and is fine with this
[13:37]	Wilhiam Hydraconis	Ranking should be dropped.
[13:37]	Mags Indigo	doesn't care what rank she has
[13:38]	Marigold Devin	And Marianne, you have a special place on the forums as far as a lot of us are concerned.
[13:38]	Lord of Dee	It's when someone turns up in a forum where they have less knowledge that it potentially becomes an issue, there are folk in the scripting and building forums who are very knowledgeable in those areas
[13:38]	Wilhiam Hydraconis	Won't make you CEO anyway :|
[13:38]	Dee	yes Wil yes
[13:38]	Darrius Gothly	I'm quite happy with my orange bowling pin too .. but I'm thinking of the perception of others new to the Forums or just not deeply involved in the community.
[13:38]	Venus Petrov	doesn't care what rank Mags has either ㋡
[13:38]	Amanda Linden	let's save ther est of the ranks/kudos convo for when raymond is back next week.
[13:38]	Mags Indigo	considers frowning at Venus
[13:38]	Marigold Devin	The poor sods who come looking for help won't even notice the ranking system. They just want help, from wherever they can get it.
[13:38]	Amanda Linden	he should hear this...
[13:38]	Darrius Gothly	*nods*
[13:38]	Dee	difference between HR and Member is you can add tags right
[13:39]	Peewee Musytari	i don`t think anyone new to the forums would know which rank was higher without looking up...the titles are very vague
[13:39]	Lord of Dee	I think finding their way back to their question is more of an issue for them Marigold
[13:39]	Marigold Devin	Make sure Raymond reads this transcript, then please.
[13:39]	Lexie	Yes Peewee
[13:39]	Amanda Linden	will do. for sure.
[13:39]	Marigold Devin	Yes, ciaran, quite so. Its very hard for them to find their way back. I've taken to going into world to locate people I've attempted to help.
[13:39]	Marigold Devin	They all say its too complicated, the forum, as it is.
[13:39]	Venus Petrov	besides many have fixed their badges so that rank does not show unless one runs the mouse over it
[13:40]	Marigold Devin	And that would certainly seem to be true, because there are less people returning to the threads they have started, than on the old system
[13:40]	Dee	or a car Venus
[13:40]	Darrius Gothly	Someone IM'd me with a question 3 weeks ago. I replied in 10 minutes. That reply is still awaiting their return. LOL
[13:40]	Venus Petrov	laughs Dee
[13:40]	Dee	hehe
[13:40]	Venus Petrov	semi
[13:40]	Marigold Devin	Exactly, Darrius, often happens
[13:40]	Peewee Musytari	i get PMs instead of people replying on their posts
[13:40]	Lexie	New Residents do forget to mark what answer helped them. But it doesnt mean they are not seeing it.
[13:41]	Marigold Devin	Yes, Peewee, I imagine you get a screenfull when you log in now.
[13:41]	Marigold Devin	As I did when ghost hunting
[13:41]	Peewee Musytari	yeah way more are gabbing me in world too
[13:41]	Lord of Dee	Agreed Lexie but they could do with a hand about navigation
[13:41]	Peewee Musytari	lololol
[13:41]	Venus Petrov	laughs
[13:41]	DogWomble Dollinger	mari, do we need to start a GhostBusters group in world? :)
[13:41]	Marigold Devin	And Peewee, if you're happy with that, then great, if you can help, then wonderful, but you don't work for LL
[13:41]	Dee	often Catlin
[13:41]	Marigold Devin	DogWomble, no, the ghosting issue is fixed - for now. I believe
[13:41]	Peewee Musytari	i know venus does too lol...some the same people
[13:41]	Marianne McCann	Hmn?
[13:41]	Marigold Devin	Or point me to the nearest ghosts you know of
[13:41]	Marianne McCann	Oh, other Mari
[13:42]	DogWomble Dollinger	:)
[13:42]	Venus Petrov	hehe yes Peewee
[13:42]	Marigold Devin	You're Mari, Marianne - you're older than me ;-)))
[13:42]	bob Iwashi	no it isn;t fixed
[13:42]	Darrius Gothly	too mani maris
[13:42]	Lord of Dee	There's only one Mari!
[13:42]	bob Iwashi	beleive me
[13:42]	Marianne McCann	:-PDarrius Gothly
[13:42]	bob Iwashi	none of them had a clue
[13:42]	Kraptacular Kat	marigold is MGD
[13:42]	bob Iwashi	i spent 45 minutes in live herlp and wound up talking to 3 diff scouts when i were ghosted recently
[13:42]	Darrius Gothly	Did we draw a line around RICs Amanda? Or is that topic still open today?
[13:42]	bob Iwashi	none of them had a clue
[13:42]	Peewee Musytari	any progress on "bumping" threads or did I miss that update lexie?
[13:43]	Marigold Devin	Yes, BB :-))))
[13:43]	bob Iwashi	abd all i was asking for a wasd a region restart
[13:43]	bob Iwashi	th scouts has no idea what "stuck presence" even meant!
[13:43]	Marigold Devin	gives bob all my sympathy - its hit and miss with the scouts for sure.
[13:43]	Lexie	No progress on that one yet Peewee. It is on the list though
[13:43]	Peewee Musytari	kk ty
[13:43]	bob Iwashi	45 ruddy minutes!
[13:43]	Amanda Linden	darrius--think we ended up that anyone (logged in) can report a RIC, but doesn't mean that it will be acted upon. will be evaluated tho.
[13:43]	Marianne McCann	Bob, my fave is getitng told to contact the estate owner when it's a mainland sim that's stuck. </offtopic>
[13:43]	Darrius Gothly	k .. ty
[13:43]	bob Iwashi	before that dude last year cut all the lindens, you cou,ld get a region restart in 5 minutes!
[13:43]	Marigold Devin	But valid, Mari, because its all about the lack of communication and inconsistency in certain areas
[13:44]	Venus Petrov	yes, that is what i heard
[13:44]	Marigold Devin	I want consistency!
[13:44]	Marianne McCann	nods
[13:44]	Amanda Linden	consistency in what respect? do tell more.
[13:44]	Catwise Yoshikawa	so there is no way a moderator could stay at night hours? guess lot of people are getting tired of the spammers
[13:44]	Marigold Devin	In the Scouts being fully trained, ,in there being help for basic account holders
[13:44]	bob Iwashi	how hard is it"hi i'm ghosted at my home on a mainladn sim, i'ver delted my cache manually tried the usual tips and trick can you restart the region please"
[13:44]	Amanda Linden	cat--we're actually looking into the night owl mod.
[13:44]	bob Iwashi	45 minutes and 3 scouts later
[13:45]	Amanda Linden	trying to get budget for the extra person.
[13:45]	Amanda Linden	that's on my list.
[13:45]	Marigold Devin	Oh, and the Wasted guy, it took 3 whole hours before he got removed from the forums on the morning I saw him take the mickey out of Oskar Linden's post. Oskar had to come in after I emailed him and get that sorted.
[13:45]	bob Iwashi	afore soembody in concierge helped me out
[13:45]	Catwise Yoshikawa	is morning time for europeans...maybe an european moderator? :p
[13:45]	Darrius Gothly	Tell Rodvik we said it was okay to hire more people.
[13:45]	Marigold Devin	How come we - the residents - are seeing the spammer before the moderator on the forums???
[13:45]	Amanda Linden	yeah, wasted has been a real problem.
[13:45]	Wilhiam Hydraconis	lol Darrius
[13:45]	Marianne McCann	I can adjust my sleep schedule Amanda... and I'd work cheap....
[13:45]	Mags Indigo	how about ResMods with very limited powers?
[13:45]	Marianne McCann	winks
[13:45]	Darrius Gothly	<-- afk for a few .. brb
[13:46]	Amanda Linden	let's try to get a mod at night and then we'll work otu planned b's.
[13:46]	COCOON	just add 2 extra moderators and the problem is solved, no?
[13:46]	Amanda Linden	plan be's
[13:46]	Amanda Linden	b's
[13:46]	Amanda Linden	can't type.:(
[13:46]	Marigold Devin	I don't think I am the only person who sees Wasted appear, submits an AR and then waits, and nothing happens for ages? When a mod should be there, also, refreshing the new threads page and zap him before he can get a-hold again
[13:46]	Catwise Yoshikawa	you are not alone Marigold :p
[13:46]	Venus Petrov	no, you 're not the only one
[13:46]	Amanda Linden	yep, i hear ya. very frustrating.
[13:46]	Marigold Devin	But Wasted isn't so bad - amusing really - but the eingee.com and other Linden Dollar spam ones are a risk to the newer residents.
[13:47]	Marigold Devin	And that isn't giving out a very positive impression of LL from the start.
[13:47]	Wilhiam Hydraconis	nods.
[13:47]	Amanda Linden	agreed.
[13:47]	Venus Petrov	Wasted is a spammer...a nuisance
[13:47]	Marigold Devin	And I thought I'd have nothing to say at this meeting!
[13:47]	Dee	god he is persistent
[13:47]	Catwise Yoshikawa	yes, I read some residents having problems using that site...
[13:47]	COCOON	if they get 1 resident buying from them, they win ^^
[13:47]	Amanda Linden	we're continuing to hone the span filters.but, it's tough.
[13:47]	Marigold Devin	Sorry, been bottling it all up
[13:47]	bob Iwashi	hears you marigold
[13:47]	Wilhiam Hydraconis	the LindenDollar spam is very disturbing
[13:47]	Peewee Musytari	lol marigold
[13:47]	Amanda Linden	keep reporting them.
[13:47]	Lexie	We have cut off many of that eingee spammers methods and are working on more
[13:47]	Marigold Devin	Spam filters? Good grief!
[13:47]	Catwise Yoshikawa	he is a person with lot of free time :p
[13:47]	Marigold Devin	What about moderators using their eyes and commonsense now and again???
[13:48]	COCOON	it is an entrepreneur I think ->they never give up really!
[13:48]	Marigold Devin	These people, eingee and Wasted for example, have set times, set patterns, you can even almost set your watch by them
[13:48]	Mags Indigo	hands Marigold a cold beer
[13:48]	Marigold Devin	takes the beer gratefully. Thank you Mags *slurp*
[13:48]	Catwise Yoshikawa	marigold, there is not a moderatorat night...let's see what's ahppend when we have one ;--)
[13:48]	Lexie	Used to Marigold. They are changing it up lately
[13:48]	Mags Indigo	:-)
[13:48]	Dee	oh he has a schedule cool:)
[13:49]	COCOON	can u guys at LL not offer a job @Lindenlabs for WASTED?
[13:49]	Marigold Devin	Night for you, is 8am for me. Wasted is Spanish, 9am for him is midnight for SL time
[13:49]	Wilhiam Hydraconis	Wildcat ? ... you nuts ? ;P :O
[13:49]	Marigold Devin	I am sure Wasted has some very valid points. And these are getting lost in the clutter of his spammy threads.
[13:49]	COCOON	haha
[13:49]	Mags Indigo	most of the UK day in forums can be taken up by spam
[13:49]	Marianne McCann	Wildcat - Supervisor in charge of gamping games?
[13:49]	COCOON	in mine too
[13:49]	COCOON	lol Maianne
[13:49]	Amanda Linden	ok, we're in the last 10 mins.
[13:49]	Catwise Yoshikawa	nop, i'm spanish, I mean night for SL :p
[13:49]	COCOON	Marianne*
[13:49]	Amanda Linden	want to make srue we covered everything on the agenda.
[13:49]	Amanda Linden	only thing that we didn't get to was the referral bonus question.
[13:50]	Catwise Yoshikawa	I have to read all the spam when I wake up in the morning lol
[13:50]	Marigold Devin	Meanwhile, the forum looks a mess and becomes even harder to navigate, and its very offputting for all, especially those who, frustrating, seeking help, on basic (but with payment on file) are unable to access any help through the "Support"
[13:50]	Liisa Runo	i think offering a job to wasted is great idea, let him translate the signs to all 6000 languages
[13:50]	Marianne McCann	Did we get to Qie's as well?
[13:50]	Venus Petrov	yes that just came up today
[13:50]	Darrius Gothly	back
[13:50]	Amanda Linden	i know we have an internal referral bonus, but not sure about resi' bonus.
[13:50]	Qie	Amanda, I ninja'd in another point at the end
[13:50]	Amanda Linden	kk, refreshing
[13:50]	COCOON	LOL LIISA
[13:50]	Venus Petrov	it's in the viewer..might want to fix that then
[13:50]	Amanda Linden	don't think that we have one. but if you have a good candidate in mind, pass 'em along to us.
[13:50]	Amanda Linden	we'll make sure recruiters see the resume.
[13:50]	Arawn Graalrd	Referal Bonus for Users? I think got oe, jus afterthey were cancelled
[13:51]	Venus Petrov	well, the viewer has something about referral bonus for residents
[13:51]	Amanda Linden	ah, right.
[13:51]	Amanda Linden	no, i don't think there is one.
[13:51]	Amanda Linden	in fact, i know there isn't.
[13:51]	Peewee Musytari	its on the email a snap window
[13:51]	Marigold Devin	Used to be in 2007
[13:51]	Venus Petrov	oh might want to take that out then
[13:51]	Amanda Linden	will look at that.
[13:51]	Amanda Linden	and, land user group is the last question.
[13:51]	Marigold Devin	quietly sips the beer
[13:51]	Amanda Linden	no, there are no updates qie
[13:51]	Qie	pouts silently
[13:51]	Amanda Linden	no land user group planned for now (aside from large estate private gropu)
[13:51]	Amanda Linden	group)
[13:52]	Arawn Graalrd	e-mailing snapshots might refer to a referal bonus, but that would be viewer side
[13:52]	bob Iwashi	wishes nutbar was here to brighten up the meeting
[13:52]	Marianne McCann	Definitely a do want, Qie, Marketplace is steamrollering over land, MO
[13:52]	Marianne McCann	IMO*
[13:52]	Amanda Linden	nutbar?
[13:52]	bob Iwashi	adamburp
[13:52]	Amanda Linden	;)
[13:52]	Amanda Linden	ah
[13:53]	bob Iwashi	the "one man band"
[13:53]	Amanda Linden	:)
[13:53]	DogWomble Dollinger	a rebel with a cause?
[13:53]	Amanda Linden	kk, any last things in the remaining mins?
[13:53]	Torben	Referral Bonus: http://secondlife.com/corporate/affiliate/?lang=en-US
[13:53]	Amanda Linden	ha, will look at that.
[13:53]	Wilhiam Hydraconis	yes Amanda .. RIC notification
[13:54]	Wilhiam Hydraconis	why don't you get notified when posts are pulled ?
[13:54]	Lord of Dee	Jack's meetings were at one stage for concierge users, can't we at least have one of those back
[13:54]	Amanda Linden	no, i'm sorry lord. not in the plans rightnow.
[13:54]	Amanda Linden	wilhiam, you're not notified when your posts get pulled?
[13:54]	Amanda Linden	you should be.
[13:55]	Marigold Devin	Wilhiam, you're getting posts pulled? ^^
[13:55]	Amanda Linden	referral bonus program is still in place.
[13:55]	Amanda Linden	just confirmed with lead
[13:55]	Darrius Gothly	Well .. there ARE times when you know it's gonna get pulled. *grin*
[13:55]	Marianne McCann	Commerce is all over the marketplace, and it's getting a lot of resources and time spent on it. Land is, well... getting visually nothing, IMO.
[13:55]	Wilhiam Hydraconis	i wasn't , Amanda .. post was just pulled
[13:55]	Amanda Linden	i'll double confirm with mods that folks should be notified when their stuff is pulled. thanks for letting me know.
[13:55]	Lord of Dee	Land is getting a very raw deal considering it's the core backbone of the business model of LL
[13:55]	Marianne McCann	Would be nice t'see some sorta something
[13:55]	Marigold Devin	Maybe your post was pulled because it was a reply to someone else's and there's got pulled, you got caught in the fallout?
[13:55]	Darrius Gothly	When we get notified though, that counts against our "three strikes" .. right?
[13:55]	Wilhiam Hydraconis	ok Amanda
[13:56]	Amanda Linden	depends.
[13:56]	Amanda Linden	sometimes yes. sometimes no.
[13:56]	Amanda Linden	depends on the content.
[13:56]	Amanda Linden	sometimes it's just a friendly reminder.
[13:56]	Venus Petrov	Amanda, so the resident referral bonus is still 'real'? is that what I heard you say?
[13:56]	Wilhiam Hydraconis	no Marigold .. not the ase
[13:56]	Amanda Linden	yes, it's real.
[13:56]	Wilhiam Hydraconis	case
[13:56]	Darrius Gothly	The notifications sent differentiate which is which then?
[13:56]	Amanda Linden	i just confirmed.
[13:56]	Venus Petrov	thank you.
[13:56]	Marigold Devin	Tell me later, Wilhiam ;-))
[13:56]	Wilhiam Hydraconis	ok
[13:56]	Amanda Linden	through the affiliate program.
[13:56]	Amanda Linden	:)
[13:56]	Mags Indigo	only within the first 30 days though?
[13:56]	Amanda Linden	whatever is up on that wiki is up to date
[13:57]	Dee	Amanda is there a life span on warnings?
[13:57]	Amanda Linden	(not my program)
[13:57]	Amanda Linden	we'll see. we're only a month in.
[13:57]	Amanda Linden	but, all warnings during the first week won't count towards your warning count.
[13:57]	Darrius Gothly	suggests a life span of 30 minutes. *cheeky grin*
[13:57]	Lexie	lol
[13:57]	Mags Indigo	wonders if Amanda was a schoolteacher in her previous life
[13:57]	Amanda Linden	i think if enough time goes by, the old ones won't count.
[13:58]	Amanda Linden	not sure. we can talk about it together and make the right decision as a group. how does that sound?
[13:58]	Dee	kk thats what I'm looking at
[13:58]	Peewee Musytari	cos u will have so many newer ones?
[13:58]	Amanda Linden	ha mags.
[13:58]	Amanda Linden	in tech marketing my whole career.
[13:58]	Darrius Gothly	Seriously though .. they should have a life span that's reasonable. With a large "Lifetime Max" too.
[13:58]	Dee	I look for one a year
[13:58]	Mags Indigo	hmmm
[13:59]	Amanda Linden	well, let's revisit in a few months.
[13:59]	Amanda Linden	i'm totally open.
[13:59]	Darrius Gothly	TY
[13:59]	Venus Petrov	I guess they might be considered similar to HR warnings in employee files.
[13:59]	Marianne McCann	Gotta scoot.. Have fun, all!
[13:59]	Torben	bye MAri
[13:59]	Darrius Gothly	TC Marianne
[13:59]	Amanda Linden	ok all. think that's abou tit.
[13:59]	Marigold Devin	waves at Mari Number 1 ;-)
[13:59]	Amanda Linden	bout it
[13:59]	Dee	4 months wait was that out loud
[13:59]	COCOON	tc Marianne
[13:59]	Amanda Linden	thanks to everyone who attended today.
[13:59]	Lexie	Thanks for coming today
[13:59]	Amanda Linden	great session.
[13:59]	Marianne McCann	wave at Other Mari
[13:59]	Darrius Gothly	Amanda!! Watch your language! LOL
[13:59]	Marianne McCann	Bye Bye!!
[14:00]	Torben	bye all
[14:00]	Amanda Linden	ha
[14:00]	Lexie	Bye for now!
[14:00]	Mags Indigo	thanks Linden people
[14:00]	Venus Petrov	did i see 'tit'?
[14:00]	DogWomble Dollinger	thanks lindens
[14:00]	Venus Petrov	as in mouse?
[14:00]	Catwise Yoshikawa	thanx
[14:00]	Mags Indigo	see you all soon everyone
[14:00]	Mags Indigo	:-)
[14:00]	Peewee Musytari	modding and censoring can be entertaining sometimes too...like the person that asked if you can ***bleep*** someone in sl and got a load of replies saying no there is no chat censor lol
[14:00]	COCOON	MOUSE WHERE????
[14:00]	Marigold Devin	Thanks Amanda/Lexie all for listening, and for what has already been done for us
[14:00]	Amanda Linden	hey, i just posted a blog post about jiggles.
[14:00]	COCOON	O.o *mew* *mew* o.O
[14:00]	COCOON	☠ °•·.·´¯`·.·•✰ ◕‿◕ ✰•·.·´¯`·.·•☠
[14:00]	Mags Indigo	be good or have fun
[14:00]	Amanda Linden	;)
[14:00]	Mags Indigo	whichever
[14:00]	COCOON	bye all ^^
[14:00]	Amanda Linden	bye.
[14:00]	Venus Petrov	laughs
[14:00]	Tsaheylu	BYE BYE
[14:00]	Peewee Musytari	bye alll good meeting
[14:00]	Catwise Yoshikawa	bye
[14:00]	Wilhiam Hydraconis	bye bye bye bye .. and bye ..and you .. bye .
[14:00]	Amanda Linden	jeremy/rand, can you grab transcript?
[14:00]	Venus Petrov	bye all
[14:00]	Dee	byeeee
[14:00]	Dresden Ceriano	bye everybody
[14:00]	Rand	yes
[14:00]	Darrius Gothly	will post one too .. like last week.
[14:01]	Jeremy Linden	Working on it
[14:01]	Marigold Devin	waves and poofs - BB see you at Oskar's later maybe - he's got the big cheese there I think
[14:01]	Rand	Bye!
[14:01]	Jeremy Linden	Transcript! https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Tools_User_Group/07-April-2011
[14:01]	Catwise Yoshikawa	thanx jeremy

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