Adult Content User Group/08/15/2011

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Transcript for Monday August 15, 2011

[11:05] Zada Bury Heya Viale
[11:05] Counter Landfall When will ZA get its parcel at zexpo Ginette?
[11:05] Viale Linden what no LL reps!
[11:05] Vick Forcella Just as you spoke the words....
[11:05] Huntress Catteneo mmmm coffffeeeee
[11:05] Ginette Pinazzo They are doing the old 'maek them wait' plan, Adora.....
[11:05] Moi Macarthur ;-)
[11:05] Adorabella Felisimo lol sorry did not see you
[11:05] Zada Bury As talked about the devil ... ^.^
[11:06] Hypatia Meili hi Viale
[11:06] Innula Zenovka i thought you had to name them three times before they appear
[11:06] Vick Forcella with a siggy
[11:06] Viale Linden very busy from a SLCC fun packed weekend
[11:06] Qie Innula, I think it was the heel-clicking that did it
[11:06] Counter Landfall Hi Viale and Slaton
[11:06] Viale Linden No slaton today
[11:06] Viale Linden Vacay
[11:06] Zada Bury Slaton ?
[11:06] Zada Bury Awwww
[11:06] Ginette Pinazzo oh...then..Hi Slaton
[11:07] Viale Linden Quick update
[11:07] Counter Landfall When will ZA get its parcel at zexpo Ginette?
[11:07] Vick Forcella vacancy or vacation, big difference
[11:07] Viale Linden we are still drafting our proposal for a adult welcome area
[11:07] Viale Linden More to come on that
[11:07] Ginette Pinazzo I dont knoiw countre, did you post that question on the agedna? haha
[11:07] Hypatia Meili lol
[11:07] Counter Landfall I am asking you
[11:08] Viale Linden So let me open the agenda
[11:08] Ginette Pinazzo amazingly counter, I am not obligated to answer your questions.....after meeting we can talk abt it
[11:08] Couldbe when do you think you will have them done Viale?
[11:08] Ginette Pinazzo taht agedna has been statc for 2 weeks viale
[11:08] Hypatia Meili everyonis sort of waiting on that
[11:08] Viale Linden ok
[11:09] Viale Linden anyone attend SLCC?
[11:09] Ginette Pinazzo you may need to look throiugh ti and see if any items are veen stiull relevant
[11:09] Huntress Catteneo here in sl?
[11:09] Qie In a synopsis of SLCC, I read a note (on opensource-dev) that there is a new contact for Adult stuff called "Charla"... dunno if that's "Charlar" by another name, or somebody else, or a mistake, or... dunno.
[11:09] Counter Landfall watched a few recorded sessions
[11:09] Vick Forcella Didn't find time yet
[11:10] Innula Zenovka not i, though i watched Rodvik's speech on a video feed
[11:10] Viale Linden Yes, charlar is responsible for Adult from an Adult Point of view
[11:10] Huntress Catteneo bit hard rl, rather far away
[11:10] Viale Linden not a community Point of view
[11:10] Qie ah, okay, thanks.
[11:10] Couldbe why isn't Charlar here then?
[11:10] Vick Forcella Charlar is a Linden?
[11:10] Ginette Pinazzo that distinction might need soem clarifucation,k vs community
[11:10] Couldbe does charlar have an offic hour - err user group?
[11:11] Viale Linden Charlar may make a guest appearance one day
[11:11] Innula Zenovka yeah.. i don't quite understand what we raise with Charlar and what we raise with you, Viale
[11:11] Huntress Catteneo sounds like a computer or group name
[11:11] Viale Linden however, this is a community forum
[11:11] Ginette Pinazzo Charlar is a type of bleu cheese, I think
[11:11] Vick Forcella smelly?
[11:11] Qie (FWIW, I've seen Charlar at Andrew's I think, and Kelly's)
[11:11] Adorabella Felisimo LOL
[11:11] Vista Questi cheezy :p
[11:12] Viale Linden or a Producer on our Product team
[11:12] Viale Linden He also manages Mesh
[11:12] Qie ah
[11:12] Huntress Catteneo be rather busy then
[11:12] Viale Linden Everyone enjoy SLCC?
[11:12] Ginette Pinazzo viale..there is one tiyn topic sytill on that agenda that is relevant: update on the new dirction for SL Adutl marketing....know what that refers to?
[11:13] Huntress Catteneo I imagine mesh will be higher priority
[11:13] Innula Zenovka Innula Zenovka is still bemused.. could you give us an exampple of the sort of Adult Content he's interested in as opposed to what a "community group" is interested in?

[11:13] Ginette Pinazzo (has cracker with bit of
[11:13] Qie I liked what I heard of Rod's talk at SLCC... and the in-world builds.
[11:13] Counter Landfall adult mesh perhaps?
[11:14] Vick Forcella perv..
[11:14] Viale Linden Ginette - can you remind us about Zexpo event
[11:14] Lara Boyle I thnk before that Viale.... Ginette deserves an answer to her point about the one thing remaining on the agenda
[11:14] Ginette Pinazzo did you see my quetsion a few line sback abt trhe agenda item: Update on new direction of SL Adutl Marketing?
[11:15] Viale Linden Have you reached out to our editors about your event?
[11:16] Lara Boyle hello..... are you listening Viale? - or am I invisible?
[11:16] Ginette Pinazzo of course I have.....far along that path....working with DG now..and will have MotD point to it
[11:17] Ginette Pinazzo plenty of maagzien and otehr media interviews schedukles...I will have a lot to say to the press
[11:17] Vick Forcella ...crash...
[11:17] Hypatia Meili last year all we got was a tweet
[11:18] Hypatia Meili wichwas rather disapointing
[11:18] Viale Linden when is the event?
[11:18] Ginette Pinazzo this yera you will get a lot of stuff.....and the press will get to blast it all lets hope there are godo thinsg to say!
[11:18] Ginette Pinazzo open AUG 26
[11:19] Viale Linden Ok
[11:19] Viale Linden I will see what I can do
[11:19] Counter Landfall and when does it close?
[11:19] Viale Linden DG is the starting point
[11:19] Ginette Pinazzo runs 10 days
[11:19] Viale Linden will you list more than 1 location for sim load balancing
[11:19] Ginette Pinazzo then the movie crea coems in an makes a documentary abt it for the next 8 monthds
[11:20] Ginette Pinazzo *crew
[11:20] Viale Linden Facebook and Twitter could be off limited - FYI
[11:20] Ginette Pinazzo list more than one eyou referring to the DG info?
[11:20] Viale Linden Yes - for the DG
[11:20] Hypatia Meili off limited?
[11:20] Huntress Catteneo pg
[11:21] Huntress Catteneo can't do adult
[11:21] Ginette Pinazzo those typeos of detaisl I expect to work w/ Brett on
[11:21] Viale Linden sorry could be off limits
[11:21] Innula Zenovka off limits to whom?
[11:21] Huntress Catteneo adult
[11:21] Hypatia Meili seems recentlt LL has beeninlove with facebook and twitter
[11:22] Viale Linden based on their TOS, LL's official Twitter and FB page may not be able to promote
[11:22] Temperance Hax though adult was allowed tobe advrtised now, as per anouncement one month ago?
[11:22] Ginette Pinazzo but in general, we have a setup where we encourage visitors to quickly leave the main landing and explore....TPing to various spots throughout the they disperse and dotn gather
[11:22] Innula Zenovka right, but there's nothing to stop residents tweeting about them?
[11:22] Viale Linden Right
[11:22] Viale Linden Innula - by all means
[11:22] Innula Zenovka thanks.. as i thought
[11:23] Hypatia Meili strangly the offical LL anoucemnt last year was via twittier, whichi actuly thoght was strange
[11:23] Viale Linden I will think of some other areas within our arsenal
[11:23] Temperance Hax thank you
[11:24] Viale Linden I think the login screen could work
[11:24] Viale Linden Question for Zexpo folks
[11:24] Counter Landfall motd cauae sim to run full immedeately
[11:24] Counter Landfall cause*
[11:24] Lara Boyle I'm listening - unlike some
[11:24] Viale Linden Do you have the permissions to get rid of griefers?
[11:24] Ginette Pinazzo we principlayy work ona n organic approach to our marketing.....using the creators themsleves as a number one resource and driver
[11:25] Lara Boyle no one has spoken to us about that...
[11:25] Moi Macarthur I don't think I do
[11:25] Lara Boyle we would like an answer one way or another
[11:25] Ginette Pinazzo only exhibitors with the correct roel can rez on the island..that takes care of the griefing issue, really
[11:25] Lara Boyle what about troublemakers in general?
[11:26] Viale Linden how about the ability to expel?
[11:26] Huntress Catteneo unless a builder goes rogue lol
[11:26] Lara Boyle what's the protocol there
[11:26] Ginette Pinazzo teh ZEXPO island system, as it is set up now, has bene working quite grieifng issues ever, really
[11:26] Viale Linden OK
[11:26] Moi Macarthur phew
[11:26] Viale Linden just curious
[11:26] Temperance Hax we will need orles that can do that s anyone can script and griefer suually use sound and particles from attachments inmy experience
[11:26] Zada Bury If I remember last year, we was in firm contact with some Lindens "for the case of" ... but was not needed.
[11:26] Huntress Catteneo has powers to do most stuff
[11:27] Zada Bury Blondin was somehow make the contact.
[11:27] Huntress Catteneo in the group
[11:27] Ginette Pinazzo I believe the benefits of the system we have now outweifgh any detriments.......griefing....explusion..etc...small matters....we relyu on 'adult behavior ' and promotinga certain culture of sophistication to avoid those matters
[11:27] The Citizen What does greifing have to do with an Adult Content meeting. Greifing is a general issue in SL, wouldn't it be more appropriate to bring it up there? shouldn't you focus more on content discussion?
[11:27] Qie yeah... if some heads-up were given to Governance (or whatever they're called) for the duration of the event, it might be helpful, just in case.
[11:27] Counter Landfall Question for Ginette again, when will ZA get the parcel allocated?
[11:28] Ginette Pinazzo after meeting coungtre. I alreayd told you. not now
[11:28] Counter Landfall I am aksing for our members here?
[11:28] Counter Landfall is there an issue?
[11:28] Ginette Pinazzo Viale..the only real involvement Id say LL coudl have in Island events, that relaly timely sim restarts
[11:29] Lara Boyle aye... that's a VERY valid point
[11:29] Viale Linden OIK
[11:29] Viale Linden Ok
[11:29] Viale Linden Ginette
[11:29] Viale Linden I will alert CS about this
[11:29] Ginette Pinazzo fabulous
[11:29] Viale Linden Counter - what is your question?
[11:29] Hypatia Meili oh whowould we talk toabout regular resrts for vortex?
[11:29] Counter Landfall Question for Ginette again, when will ZA get the parcel allocated?
[11:30] Temperance Hax Im guessing that ginette doesnt want toleave the meeting early to do it, seems fair counter?
[11:30] Ginette Pinazzo I am not going to repeat mysefl, counter
[11:30] Counter Landfall for zexpo
[11:30] Counter Landfall everyone else has got theri parcels?
[11:30] Counter Landfall so is there an issue?
[11:31] Temperance Hax no poeple chose thir ownparcels
[11:31] Ginette Pinazzo Viale.....Id liek to hear what you have to say abt the 'ADult SL marketing direction...yuou mad eit seem as if there might be material to review soon
[11:31] Temperance Hax if you need help its ok,it is available
[11:31] Aelfwine Crystal Can someone maybe tell me where the Zexpo is going to be?
[11:31] Huntress Catteneo I am sure he is bringing it up as not feeling fairly treated and hoping if raised here he will be
[11:31] Zada Bury *drop a LM*
[11:31] Aelfwine Crystal Thank you !
[11:31] Viale Linden I will review - we are actually doing a rather large messaging excercise
[11:32] Ginette Pinazzo IM me Aelfwine, for the LM
[11:32] Viale Linden Not ready yet
[11:32] Ginette Pinazzo large messaging exercise? that soudsn exciting
[11:32] Viale Linden yes
[11:32] Aelfwine Crystal (got it Ginette, thanks anyway)
[11:32] Vick Forcella I request LL promotion on Zexpo and visability on LL web
[11:33] Viale Linden Would MOTD bring down your event?
[11:33] Ginette Pinazzo bring down?
[11:33] Huntress Catteneo MOTD?
[11:33] Viale Linden too much traffic
[11:33] Temperance Hax no it would be great
[11:33] Counter Landfall from experience it sure will fill the landing sim very fast
[11:34] Lara Boyle can you please explain all this code-talk?
[11:34] Moi Macarthur MOTD?
[11:34] Lara Boyle either I'm not in the loop, thick, stupid or something!
[11:34] Counter Landfall MOTD = messager of the day
[11:34] Counter Landfall the login message
[11:34] Zada Bury "mOTD" is the message, you see on the login to SL
[11:34] Huntress Catteneo ahh
[11:34] Counter Landfall in your viewer
[11:34] Hypatia Meili whic sim is landing one i forgot
[11:34] Viale Linden I think if we point to the web Destinat Guide, we can load balance per se
[11:34] Moi Macarthur ty
[11:34] Lara Boyle thank you
[11:34] Zada Bury Well ... Phoenix-Users may see a different message ^.^
[11:34] Ginette Pinazzo if thats a real fera, Viale...there maybbe solution such as poitning peoepl to a notehr spot, where they get the shows Guidebook (filled with L:Ms) so they disperse even faster...but bits a bit 11th hour for that
[11:34] Viale Linden Everyone sees MOTD
[11:34] Innula Zenovka that's up to Phoenix, though, isn't it?
[11:35] Counter Landfall the worst thing that can happen is if people get a sim full message when they want to go there
[11:35] Qie (the problem is, enough people click on that to actually crash a sim with their arrivals -- then nobody shows up. but... only during prime time, if then.)
[11:35] Ginette Pinazzo DG staff and I talked, and the consensu seesm to be: MotD pointing to DG
[11:35] Viale Linden Qie - we will point to several slurls on the destination guide
[11:35] Counter Landfall I have experienced this firt hand in bay City when we got MOTD
[11:36] Counter Landfall it was very difficult to even get to the sim for hours on end (28 hours)
[11:36] Qie right, a MotD to DG should be quite safe.
[11:36] Lara Boyle well... we've spoken to etlife and SLinside.... that should reach a lot of folks
[11:36] Lara Boyle fetlife*
[11:36] Zada Bury that sounds like a great event ^_^
[11:36] Ginette Pinazzo and dont forget, youre ally need to poiunt to DG anywya, so those who have not age verified can undestand the situation
[11:37] Lara Boyle we're promoting Zexpo our own way
[11:37] Innula Zenovka Viale, I've just logged my alt in with Phoenix, and there was no MOTD.. just something about a maintenance update of Phoenix
[11:37] Zada Bury ((How to tell it's a good event? Sim is full ... how to tell it's great? Sim crashes ))
[11:37] Hypatia Meili lol
[11:37] Innula Zenovka And you don't see it in Firestorm, either, I'm sure
[11:37] Viale Linden I want the adult community to shine during expo. It is an opportunity for you all. Please make it work
[11:37] Zada Bury Phoenix can modify the MOTD ... was everytime, even as Emerald
[11:37] Vick Forcella It is important for LL to embrace Adult Second Life, hence LL promotion of Zexpo
[11:37] Innula Zenovka I know, Zada, but someone has to ask them
[11:38] Ginette Pinazzo good point Vick..I KNEW youd coem up with one (tasing0
[11:38] Viale Linden +1 Vick
[11:38] Zada Bury Maybe we can ask the Phoenix/Firestorm team also this year about a promotion?
[11:38] Lara Boyle frankly... I get the feeling that actually promoting zexpo is an uphill struggle
[11:38] Zada Bury Wasn't there last year also a communication, gin?
[11:39] Viale Linden I will let you know what ad vehicles we have next week
[11:39] Ginette Pinazzo ZEXPO this year is very creator-driven....more interactive and engaging for the participanmst themselves...this will help drive more to the show and also create lasting impact
[11:39] Vick Forcella Thank you Viale
[11:39] Lara Boyle I've already made Tonya Souther know about zexpo... trying to get Phoenix to do some thing
[11:39] Ginette Pinazzo thansk then we;ll have sorted out our DG content with the DG staff
[11:39] Viale Linden Ok
[11:40] Viale Linden Let me know if you need my help there
[11:40] Ginette Pinazzo will do
[11:40] Couldbe are there many adult content providers taking part?
[11:41] Lara Boyle define 'content provider' please couldbe
[11:41] Ginette Pinazzo look at website...the answer is cleart...yes
[11:41] Counter Landfall I think this meeting asked for a list of adult content providers and Zindra participants
[11:41] Hypatia Meili and nonadult content based in adult too
[11:41] Innula Zenovka i had a look.. why do you think the big names are staying away?
[11:41] Couldbe goods and services usually
[11:42] Lara Boyle well my group sure as hell is not PG!!!
[11:42] Couldbe that doesn't answer my question though
[11:42] Hypatia Meili i make adult and non-adult stuff
[11:42] Ginette Pinazzo its a big Sl.....yiuve got agreta cross-selction of talent at the show..I think its very divers, interetsing and representative
[11:42] Couldbe are you based on mature land or adult? are they adult services/goods or mature?
[11:43] Qie hmmm... if I were Xcite, I think I'd stay away... lest any of my customers discover there are other adult content providers.
[11:43] Lara Boyle couldbe... I'll have a bet with ya..... 95% of Zexpo is adult orientated in one way or another
[11:44] Vick Forcella ...95% of SL is adult orientated...
[11:44] Lara Boyle aye
[11:44] Hypatia Meili oh i thoght sombody had said 2 to 4 %
[11:44] Hypatia Meili :p
[11:44] Counter Landfall I thin Couldbe asked in the last meeting to ensure that no participnats Lm to mature regions?
[11:44] Counter Landfall think*
[11:44] Ginette Pinazzo I am not going to waste everyone's time going over details of how this show was organised..that can be debriefed later...suffice to say, every effort ahs bene mad eto gather a fantastic array of exhibitors
[11:44] Viale Linden Question for yall
[11:45] Viale Linden why cant I find Zexpo 2011 in google
[11:45] Couldbe Viale says it's a chance for adult content to shine - if there are no adult lands based providers there then how is that going to happen?
[11:45] Moi Macarthur oh
[11:45] Temperance Hax maybe yu have filtering
[11:45] Ginette Pinazzo viale....which google are yo9u using? its all over the place
[11:45] Temperance Hax I can
[11:45] Lara Boyle so can I
[11:45] Viale Linden what are you searching for?
[11:45] Zada Bury First result:
[11:45] Temperance Hax may need ot changeyour filter to moderate
[11:45] Qie lol... good ol' SL Universe and it's massive google-foo
[11:45] Viale Linden I just typed zindra expo 2011
[11:45] Zada Bury enter: zexpo 2011
[11:45] Hypatia Meili good question , personaly i find google results suck more and more
[11:46] Temperance Hax try zexpo 2011
[11:46] Vick Forcella It's Zexpo, easy for Google to find
[11:46] Lara Boyle I got 18,000 results for Zexpom 2011
[11:46] Innula Zenovka
[11:46] Counter Landfall but zexpo is not something most would search on
[11:46] Viale Linden I get this
[11:46] Viale Linden
[11:46] Huntress Catteneo as long as adulty content allowed on your system
[11:46] Zada Bury comes for me then first
[11:46] Counter Landfall you skuld have zindra expo and other keywords up
[11:47] Moi Macarthur Please excuse me E/everyone. RL is calling I have to leave.
[11:47] Hypatia Meili would they seach for zindra expo
[11:47] Huntress Catteneo IE or Firefox?
[11:47] draconis.neurocam google filters content and makes search result fit what they think you want
[11:47] Lara Boyle I would've thoght Zexpo 2011 was the key phrase
[11:47] Couldbe but viale, it isn't.. that's the point and no one has yet given me an answer - the main adult thing seems to be the land it is on
[11:47] draconis.neurocam results*
[11:47] Huntress Catteneo google is hand and glove with one
[11:47] Lara Boyle Safari! *grins*
[11:47] Ginette Pinazzo does anyone have any otehr topci theyd liek to discuss in the last 10 minutes?> before Google takes over? haha
[11:47] Vick Forcella Google looks at Links from Big Websites, like, any links fro SL towards the Zexpo?
[11:48] Temperance Hax well mostof what i have seen is adult, everything from strippers to copulating fleas
[11:48] Counter Landfall zexpo is only a search phrase if you had heard zexpo already
[11:48] Hypatia Meili yeah (showing results for "sum dumb shit" instead of "what yoou wanted )
[11:48] Counter Landfall for the rest it is totally unintuitive
[11:49] Couldbe we all know that ginettes push down the last year or so has been to promote non sexualised content that is based on adult land
[11:49] Counter Landfall she has Couldbe
[11:49] Couldbe i.e. it's not really adult except for where it is placed
[11:49] Viale Linden Ok - I am checking on promotion channels
[11:49] Ginette Pinazzo couldbe yue...dont pretend to sepak for everyone
[11:49] Temperance Hax thank you Viale
[11:49] Couldbe so it seems to be pretty odd to be promoting it as adult content when it's not
[11:49] Huntress Catteneo I get 6 hits for our zexpo on first page
[11:50] Hypatia Meili wellthtgoes to tha old mixed use question, cant have true mixed use in mature any more
[11:50] Counter Landfall Question to Viale, when will we get the terms for the zepxo sims to be sold after the event?
[11:50] Huntress Catteneo countries filter content too
[11:50] Qie Well, whatever is the Zexpo content, it would be really best if it *not* have links to non-adult locations. That's really not what we're trying to promote here.
[11:50] Hypatia Meili Adult expo second life
[11:50] Viale Linden love this
[11:50] Temperance Hax couldbe sexbeds strippers and stuf flike that is considered adult in SL
[11:50] Viale Linden
[11:50] Ginette Pinazzo couldbe ...stop saying just any old thing to cause are wrong about what you say
[11:50] Couldbe then someone please tell me the proportion of adult content providers that are taking part in the expo
[11:51] Viale Linden You guys are an amazing group to pull this together
[11:51] Temperance Hax come andhave ook around zexpo:)
[11:51] Counter Landfall and maybe use german, french and other language keywords ión the web pages
[11:51] Lara Boyle I run an adult Group... on Adult Land... wr're promoting ourselves at Zexpo in an adult manner.... we got medical... bondage... D/s..... Pony play... medi-play... we got talks... lectures.... events... ALL with a strong adult theme...
[11:51] Zada Bury that's called a "community" ^.^
[11:51] Ginette Pinazzo multilanguage woudl be liek to see more of that ion futrue shows....if there are future shows
[11:51] Vick Forcella How 'bout the ones with a blog also link to the Zexpo website, should rank it up
[11:51] Viale Linden I know we have had our ups and downs, but I am amazed at your collaboration
[11:51] Counter Landfall just buy the sims Ginette ;-)
[11:51] Lara Boyle and from what I have seen over there... just about everyone else is doing EXACTLY the same thing couldbe... does that answer your question?
[11:51] Couldbe ginette - you should have those details at your fingertips
[11:52] Couldbe otherwise what are you going to talk to the press about?
[11:52] Vick Forcella Vick Forcella checks the herbs in Viale his sigarette

[11:52] Huntress Catteneo only issue I have is land parceling at zexpo, I think that has to be Lindens do
[11:52] Lara Boyle viale.... collaboration is the name of the game... despite some appearances you have some very professional people here... no matter what the time-wasters may say
[11:52] Viale Linden I think the "gateway" could be a success too
[11:52] Ginette Pinazzo dotn tell me what I shoudl ro shoudol nto have, couldbe...look at the websiet and figure it out...I dotn need to sit here and compile informaion for you thats readily available
[11:52] Viale Linden I agree
[11:53] Viale Linden +1 Lara
[11:53] Qie Lara, so it's in your best interest, like everyone else's here, if people don't link out from Zexpo to non-Adult locations.
[11:53] Temperance Hax we need three parcels
[11:53] Viale Linden Ok - I owe you some things
[11:53] Ginette Pinazzo we can do the pacrelloing inside the island Hunt.....the only topic is the saling routs the Lindens have aroudn the Island....we can talk abt that 9n futrue
[11:53] Lara Boyle out group has put in a lot of effort... and I know a lot of others have too.. AND Ginette deserves a LOT of praise for all she has done and all the crap she has to put up with
[11:53] Viale Linden Sorry for the delay on the doc
[11:54] Viale Linden SLCC took up a lot of my time last week
[11:54] Hypatia Meili what is the deal with the un-updated agenda page are we not using it anymore?
[11:54] Counter Landfall NP
[11:54] Counter Landfall you can email it to me when you have it ready
[11:54] Huntress Catteneo water bottom is ugly, so barron
[11:54] Viale Linden We will have a doc on the "gateway" sorteed out next week
[11:54] Viale Linden Counter - I have a question
[11:54] Counter Landfall sure
[11:55] Hypatia Meili we a r all waiting onth doc
[11:55] Viale Linden If someone has a FRE on mainlain (zexpo sims) will they have the ability to expel griefers?
[11:55] Lara Boyle as far as Iam concernd Que.... we have to rely on the LL age verify.... and then there's still no way of guarenteeing the 'real age' of kids using parents puters or Elvis's details...
[11:55] Hypatia Meili ant even integently plan out options with out it
[11:55] Lara Boyle and I KNOW it happens
[11:55] Counter Landfall FRE?
[11:55] Huntress Catteneo FRE?
[11:55] Viale Linden Full Region Equivalant
[11:56] Counter Landfall yes
[11:56] Lara Boyle I wish you would stop talking in code viale... *smiles*
[11:56] Viale Linden cool
[11:56] Counter Landfall they will
[11:56] Viale Linden Just like a non mainland region?
[11:56] Counter Landfall yes
[11:56] Huntress Catteneo yes
[11:56] Viale Linden ok
[11:56] Viale Linden Blake sea told me that was not possible
[11:56] Counter Landfall but that can be sorted through groups or security devices too
[11:57] Viale Linden ok
[11:57] Counter Landfall so there are wasy to fix it
[11:57] Viale Linden Good. We may ask you fro help on that
[11:57] Counter Landfall please
[11:57] Lara Boyle I'm bringing my own security people...
[11:57] Viale Linden Guys = off topic
[11:57] Huntress Catteneo if Vortex group was like Zepo ones for allowed stuff it would work beautifully
[11:58] Lara Boyle but they will have no real power
[11:58] Viale Linden We had a huge surge of Traffic from Brasil yesterday
[11:58] Viale Linden Apparently some TV in Brasil
[11:58] Counter Landfall maybe someone opened a firewall, hehe
[11:58] Lara Boyle that happens every time there's a TV show somewhere....
[11:58] Vick Forcella I adore Brasilian ladies
[11:58] Viale Linden SL is growing
[11:58] Lara Boyle I've seen it so many times as a LL mentor
[11:58] Lara Boyle when Amber ran it
[11:58] The Citizen Wait... really? oh no.
[11:59] Huntress Catteneo eek they are usually so aggressive
[11:59] Vick Forcella mmhmm :)
[11:59] Viale Linden Did you all see the Q2 econ post about Registration?
[11:59] Counter Landfall yep
[11:59] Huntress Catteneo hate working gate when they come in
[11:59] Viale Linden good stuff
[11:59] Vick Forcella retention, retention, retention
[11:59] Counter Landfall it would be great if you rpovided some info on demographics of the new signups
[11:59] Viale Linden +1 vick
[11:59] Counter Landfall new signups is good :-)
[11:59] Qie and conversion to "economic participants"
[12:00] Counter Landfall that too Qie
[12:00] Viale Linden Much younger than usual over the last 3 or 4 months
[12:00] Counter Landfall I would think, but who stays?
[12:00] Couldbe no one - and that's the problem rod skirted around
[12:00] Viale Linden We are focused on the usability improvements
[12:00] Temperance Hax SL usually attracts the crowd that used to do sims1 I thought?
[12:00] Vick Forcella anyone that lasts longer as a month is addicted and won't leave forever
[12:01] Viale Linden Basic and advanced need to merge soon
[12:01] Lara Boyle that's true Vick
[12:01] Viale Linden Yes vick
[12:01] Lara Boyle get them for a month... and they are hear for life
[12:01] Viale Linden They forget to sleep
[12:01] Counter Landfall the step from basic to advanced is raterh big
[12:01] Counter Landfall you need to ease that transition
[12:01] Lara Boyle THAT is why the mentoring was such a good idea that got destroyed
[12:01] Temperance Hax basic destroys usabilityastheydo what we say andit doesnt work,thebest workaround is advise phoenix
[12:01] Vick Forcella I have many old friends still on Basic, and the spend a fortune, more as I do
[12:02] Viale Linden lara - check this our - pls hold
[12:02] Temperance Hax oh youmeane viewer one? as basic?
[12:02] Viale Linden
[12:02] Vick Forcella basic as in non-premium
[12:02] Huntress Catteneo ooo I am Viewer one
[12:02] Lara Boyle I mentor for White Tiger Helpers
[12:02] Temperance Hax Ithought yu meantthebeginner mode that prevents using sl
[12:02] Huntress Catteneo oh paid
[12:03] Viale Linden are they listed?
[12:03] Vick Forcella Wow, Viale, that's a great link
[12:03] Huntress Catteneo many get paid account when they finally want a home or shop
[12:03] Lara Boyle I believe so
[12:03] Counter Landfall basic is a good starter point, but it has a bit too few concepts to make an esay transition to "normal" viewer mode
[12:03] Temperance Hax Imconfused about what you mean by "basic"
[12:04] Counter Landfall Basic is the starter mode for all new signups on the LL viewer
[12:04] Viale Linden I have to inhale some food before my next meeting
[12:04] Viale Linden Everyone good?
[12:04] Counter Landfall it has limited functionality, and a great DG strip
[12:04] Temperance Hax thebeginners viewer mode in viewer2 you can ask new citizens inc and they will tell yu exactly what do with it lol
[12:04] Zada Bury political correct word for "a smoke"?
[12:04] Vick Forcella I'm always bad... :)
[12:04] Vick Forcella Take care Viale, have fun!
[12:04] Qie thanks Viale
[12:05] Temperance Hax right that mode cause people to cry,because we say do such and such, andit doesnt work
[12:05] Viale Linden Thansk all - good meeting
[12:05] Counter Landfall Cheers Viale
[12:05] Innula Zenovka thank you, Viale
[12:05] Temperance Hax so they think theycantuse sl and leave
[12:05] Zada Bury Tahnk you for your time
[12:05] Ginette Pinazzo food sounds good...Im off too
[12:05] Temperance Hax thanks viale
[12:06] Temperance Hax and iwante dot thank you and SLaton f r your help with vortex sandbox