Bug triage/2008-03-26/Transcript

Agenda

[15:00] Alexa Linden: Hi Bridie
[15:00] Taryn London: HAPPY REZDAY!!
[15:00] Daedalus Young: hi Bridie
[15:00] Bridie Linden: w00t!
[15:00] Harleen Gretzky: Hi Bridie, happy rez day!
[15:00] Alexa Linden: smiles
[15:01] Bridie Linden: yea me!!
[15:01] Jun Segall: Hi Bridie
[15:01] Chaos Mohr: woot!!!
[15:01] Daedalus Young: ooh, it's your rezday?
[15:01] Daedalus Young: happy rezday then :D
[15:01] Alexa Linden: she's a big kid now!
[15:01] Taryn London: WooT
[15:01] Alexa Linden: oooh cake!
[15:02] Alexa Linden: we're ready to go with https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Bug_triage/Wednesday_Agenda
[15:02] Bridie Linden: alls i need now is a pony...
[15:02] Bridie Linden: Nice av Alexa
[15:02] Daedalus Young: hi Pastrami
[15:02] Alexa Linden: HeY Pastrami
[15:02] Alexa Linden: thanks :)
[15:02] Taryn London: giggles
[15:02] Bridie Linden: Thx!
[15:02] Taryn London: Hi Pastrami
[15:02] Pastrami Linden: hey guys
[15:03] Squirrel Wood: Wheee ^^
[15:03] Bridie Linden: Hey Pastrami!
[15:03] Pastrami Linden: Hi there!
[15:03] Bridie Linden: Folks might be a little late...
[15:03] Bridie Linden: b/c
[15:03] Bridie Linden: [1]
[15:04] Bridie Linden: grins
[15:04] Alexa Linden: got it
[15:04] Alexa Linden: things loaded much better
[15:04] Alexa Linden: seems a lot smoother so far
[15:04] Squirrel Wood: too late :p
[15:04] Bridie Linden: hooray!
[15:04] Bridie Linden: Let's wait one more minute...
[15:05] Alexa Linden: Hey Kooky :)
[15:05] Bridie Linden: Heya Kooky
[15:05] Daedalus Young: hi Kooky
[15:05] Taryn London: (brb)
[15:05] Kooky Jetaime: who's birthday?
[15:05] Alexa Linden: Bridie's Rez dat
[15:05] Bridie Linden: Mine!
[15:05] Alexa Linden: day*
[15:05] Bridie Linden: even!
[15:05] Taryn London: (don't forget to send love to Socrates, it's his rezday too... ok brb for real this time)
[15:05] Bridie Linden: Torley's not gonna make it today...
[15:06] Daedalus Young: aww
[15:06] Bridie Linden: Aric's on his way...
[15:06] Daedalus Young: I saw him rotating his hands 360 degrees
[15:06] Bridie Linden: :)
[15:06] Alexa Linden: ya, he's doing a video I think
[15:06] Bridie Linden: nods
[15:06] Squirrel Wood: Torley better makes a video on bug triages someday ^^
[15:06] Alexa Linden: hey Aric
[15:06] Daedalus Young: hi Aric
[15:06] Alexa Linden: no doubt!
[15:06] Bridie Linden: Welcome Aric!
[15:07] Aric Linden: Hi all
[15:07] Harleen Gretzky: Hi Aric :)
[15:07] Bridie Linden: Send Aric some love/gold sarts b/c he's not feeling great...
[15:07] Alexa Linden: it's Bridie's Rez day!
[15:07] Bridie Linden: Gold sarts for me!
[15:07] Alexa Linden: punch her in the arm!
[15:07] Bridie Linden: ouch
[15:07] Aric Linden: oH damn. I meant to call that out in Today in QA
[15:07] Bridie Linden: ok, agenda...
[15:07] Jun Segall: Hi Harleen
[15:07] Bridie Linden: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Bug_triage/Wednesday_Agenda
[15:07] Aric Linden: Happy rez Bridie
[15:07] Bridie Linden: ty ty
[15:07] Squirrel Wood: Mmmm. Sarts!
[15:08] Bridie Linden: First up...
[15:08] Bridie Linden: CAKE
[15:08] Bridie Linden: next up...
[15:08] Bridie Linden: VWR-5785[c
[15:09] Bridie Linden: Anyone seen this? Seems like a good one for Qarl to look @...
[15:09] Alexa Linden: agreed
[15:09] Bridie Linden: 10m sculpties wow
[15:09] Kooky Jetaime: Just wait till we have Mega-sculpties :)
[15:09] Bridie Linden: Next one I think we're still waiting on Spank
[15:10] Bridie Linden: VWR-5520[c
[15:10] Daedalus Young: I've seen lots of textures load partially, I think if you have hundreds of sculpties some just won't fully load
[15:10] Bridie Linden: hmms @ Daed...
[15:10] Bridie Linden: I left this on the agenda
[15:10] Bridie Linden: VWR-5653[c
[15:10] Bridie Linden: even though Aric and I couldn't repro
[15:10] Bridie Linden: I think Fluf updated and said it's a Linux issue...
[15:11] Bridie Linden: And the next one I wasn't quite sure what to do with...
[15:11] Bridie Linden: VWR-5601[c
[15:11] Daedalus Young: Fluf comments he can copy -out-, but not copy -in-.
[15:11] Bridie Linden: Sardonyx commented
[15:11] cougar Dovgal: welcome to SL Jun Segall
[15:12] Daedalus Young: I can remember some copies weren't recognized as text content
[15:12] Bridie Linden: Daed, fluf filed a separate bug
[15:12] Daedalus Young: way back
[15:12] Taryn London: I can't copy links from notices... is that normal? Or should I add that comment in?
[15:12] Bridie Linden: and I imported it
[15:12] Daedalus Young: Taryn, I have a separate issue for not copying notices
[15:12] Taryn London: K, I'll have a look for it
[15:12] Taryn London: ty :)
[15:12] Kooky Jetaime: that not copying notices is over a year old
[15:12] Daedalus Young: yvw
[15:12] Daedalus Young: it was fixed in previous version though
[15:12] Kooky Jetaime: as is the fact that the notice selection highlighting is totally screwed up
[15:13] LuckyJade Alter: selection highlighting?
[15:13] Bridie Linden: looks @ kooky
[15:13] Kooky Jetaime: Bridie - in a notice blue box, if you select the title text
[15:14] Kooky Jetaime: the black shadow goes at a monospace rate, but the text colors inverse at the per letter rate
[15:14] Daedalus Young: yes, noticed that too
[15:14] Bridie Linden: is there an issue filed for that one Kooky? or Daed?
[15:14] Kooky Jetaime: Thats a year old at least
[15:14] Bridie Linden: Do you need to do that often?
[15:14] Kooky Jetaime: Well, its useful to copy, although since copying is broke
[15:14] Daedalus Young: I don't have an issue for that, I do have one for not being able to copy notice texts: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1079
[15:15] LuckyJade Alter: Can anyone click that link?
[15:15] LuckyJade Alter: I have to copy and paste it to get it to work
[15:15] Kooky Jetaime: The hand? yea
[15:15] Bridie Linden: Yes LuckyJade
[15:15] Bridie Linden: what viewer version are you using Lucky?
[15:15] Kooky Jetaime: She's on RL 10.5 I believe
[15:15] LuckyJade Alter: Restrained?
[15:16] Bridie Linden: I'll keep an eye on 1079 and we can reopen internal issue as necessary
[15:16] Taryn London: lol Kooky
[15:16] Alexa Linden: so action needed on 5601?
[15:16] Kooky Jetaime: ((She's still learning, I drag her along to expose her to all this stuff Taryn)
[15:16] Bridie Linden: Thx Alexa...
[15:16] Bridie Linden: Not sure...
[15:16] Alexa Linden: LOL
[15:16] Alexa Linden: gotcha
[15:16] Alexa Linden: last triaged?
[15:17] Bridie Linden: Resolved?
[15:17] Alexa Linden: ok
[15:17] Bridie Linden: Michelle seems like she has the info she needed...
[15:17] Bridie Linden: Next one BigPapi commented on I believe...
[15:17] Bridie Linden: VWR-5463[c
[15:18] Bridie Linden: Pastrami / Zen, do we have that card for testing?
[15:18] Pastrami Linden: yeah these are tough to solve-
[15:18] Squirrel Wood: that sounds to me more like an overheating issue
[15:18] Bridie Linden: on Mac
[15:18] Zen Linden: It's on Mac, so not at the boston office
[15:18] Daedalus Young: I'll comment they can try the iStat widget to monitor the temperatures
[15:18] Pastrami Linden: Runitai had wanted us to get Karl one
[15:19] Bridie Linden: good Daed, thx
[15:19] Alexa Linden: thanks Daed
[15:19] Bridie Linden: Well, I guess let's leave open for now...
[15:19] Aric Linden: good widget daed
[15:19] Kooky Jetaime: Wonder if it has anything to do with the memory leaks in WL
[15:19] Pastrami Linden: I'm hesitant to put in a HW request just for this bug (at $3K+)
[15:19] Kooky Jetaime: and if they apply to Mac as well
[15:19] Zen Linden: agrees
[15:19] Pastrami Linden: until we know more about it
[15:19] Bridie Linden: ouch
[15:20] Bridie Linden: If Daed can comment with his suggestion, maybe we'll get some more info...
[15:20] Bridie Linden: Any volunteers to ping Goldie?
[15:20] Bridie Linden: wishes we had last name 'Sarts'....
[15:20] Alexa Linden: hahahahahaha
[15:21] Aric Linden: Pastrami, I love your new av
[15:21] Bridie Linden: Let's keep an eye on that issue anyway...
[15:21] Aric Linden: It's so "you"
[15:21] Alexa Linden: hahahah
[15:21] Bridie Linden: Next....
[15:21] Bridie Linden: # VWR-5812[c
[15:21] Pastrami Linden: look how I disfiguredly lounge
[15:21] Pastrami Linden: with that "come-hither" rotundity
[15:21] Taryn London: giggles
[15:22] Bridie Linden: When you sit around the house Pastrami...
[15:22] Aric Linden: I was thinking more along the lines of out of the frying pan...
[15:22] Alexa Linden: rimshit
[15:22] Pastrami Linden: lol
[15:22] Alexa Linden: rimshot***
[15:22] Pastrami Linden: hahaha
[15:22] Zen Linden: lol
[15:22] Bridie Linden: you sit AROUND the house!
[15:22] Alexa Linden: dies
[15:23] Bridie Linden: but I digress...
[15:23] Bridie Linden: Hey, it's my rezday...i can digress if i wanna...
[15:23] Pastrami Linden: Tonight's opening act: Pastrami and the Rimshits
[15:23] Taryn London: :)
[15:23] Alexa Linden: LMAO
[15:23] Aric Linden: lols
[15:23] Bridie Linden: lol
[15:23] Pastrami Linden: we're dropping a fat new single!
[15:23] Pastrami Linden: alright, enough
[15:23] Pastrami Linden: :)
[15:23] Alexa Linden: sooo quoting that
[15:23] Bridie Linden: u can play @ my rezday partay
[15:23] Pastrami Linden: hahaha
[15:24] Aric Linden: oooooooh new topic for chowdahheads
[15:24] Bridie Linden: think we can get Samuel Linden to take a peek @ 5812?
[15:24] Pastrami Linden: be back in a jiff
[15:24] Aric Linden: we're dropping a fat new single
[15:24] Alexa Linden: noted and will import
[15:24] Bridie Linden: Next...
[15:24] Bridie Linden: VWR-5778[c
[15:25] Harleen Gretzky: I have not been able to get this to happen
[15:25] Aric Linden: I assigned this to gigs yesterday
[15:25] Bridie Linden: tries to parse this one..
[15:25] Alexa Linden: so how long can a script or request be out there waiting to be accepted?
[15:25] Bridie Linden: hooray for Gigs
[15:25] Alexa Linden: I
[15:25] Alexa Linden: I've wondered this
[15:25] Aric Linden: we're working on a some inventory issues together and I think this might be symptomatic of what he's seeing
[15:26] Alexa Linden: ahhhh
[15:26] Bridie Linden: Thx Aric
[15:26] Harleen Gretzky: I left it for 12 hours and could still accept
[15:26] Alexa Linden: wow
[15:26] Aric Linden: I think you have to be logged out
[15:26] Alexa Linden: so import and assign to you aric?
[15:26] Aric Linden: and then the rez fails and the inventory drops
[15:26] Aric Linden: Alexa, that's fine
[15:26] Alexa Linden: ok
[15:26] Bridie Linden: Cool, thx Aric
[15:26] Alexa Linden: thanks :)
[15:26] Bridie Linden: Next on the list...
[15:26] Bridie Linden: VWR-5555[c
[15:27] Zen Linden: It's an 845 intel
[15:27] Zen Linden: not supported
[15:27] Bridie Linden: Ty Zen
[15:27] Daedalus Young: aww
[15:27] Zen Linden: just can't support everything
[15:28] Aric Linden: I love the comments tho
[15:28] Zen Linden: gotta draw the line somewhere
[15:28] Alexa Linden: mark won't fix?
[15:28] Aric Linden: yes
[15:28] Bridie Linden: Thx
[15:28] Alexa Linden: done
[15:28] Bridie Linden: Next up
[15:28] Bridie Linden: VWR-5711[c
[15:29] Squirrel Wood: 1024m+ there
[15:29] Daedalus Young: ooh, that looks cool!
[15:29] Daedalus Young: I need to do a WL 1 million meters video again :P
[15:29] Zen Linden: snow globe!
[15:29] Bridie Linden: Shall we import this one?
[15:30] Alexa Linden: assign to?
[15:30] Zen Linden: i'd say yes. Leave it lower priority and pastrami, you want it for assignin later?
[15:30] Pastrami Linden: back
[15:30] Bridie Linden: wb
[15:31] Bridie Linden: read up Pastrami (your Rotundity)
[15:31] Bridie Linden: Next up...
[15:31] Bridie Linden: VWR-5623[c
[15:32] Bridie Linden: Hmm - no good repro...
[15:32] Cummere Mayo: hi sorry for being late
[15:32] Bridie Linden: Np, Cummere
[15:32] Pastrami Linden: yes, assign to me Zen and Bridie
[15:32] Aric Linden: It be nice to get more info
[15:32] Bridie Linden: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Bug_triage/Wednesday_Agenda
[15:32] Bridie Linden: nods
[15:32] Alexa Linden: 5711 Pastrami?
[15:32] Alexa Linden: will do
[15:33] Bridie Linden: Needs more info on 5623
[15:33] Alexa Linden: ok
[15:33] Bridie Linden: What else do we want to ask for...
[15:33] Bridie Linden: system details? other apps running? etc?
[15:34] Aric Linden: where are they when it happens (crowded sim or empty one)
[15:34] Bridie Linden: nods
[15:34] Aric Linden: does it always happen?
[15:34] Taryn London: That one has a lot of dupes
[15:34] Cummere Mayo: hmm what kind of info you need on that?
[15:34] Aric Linden: or is it intermittant?
[15:34] Alexa Linden: ok
[15:34] Bridie Linden: yeah
[15:34] Bridie Linden: Next...
[15:34] Bridie Linden: VWR-5621[c
[15:34] Squirrel Wood: 5621 screams for a RAM upgrade... badly. notebook, intel 945 chipset
[15:35] Alexa Linden: ya
[15:35] Alexa Linden: novice question
[15:35] Alexa Linden: but why would SL to be to blame for keystroke
[15:35] Aric Linden: and I'm sure we can repro it in house
[15:35] Alexa Linden: aside from possible lag in seeing it show?
[15:35] Cummere Mayo: it always occurs for me if im on for more then half an hour so if you need details on 5623 someone give me a pm with a list
[15:35] Bridie Linden: we can Aric?
[15:35] Squirrel Wood: when SL is torturing the swapfile, performance becomes sluggish at best
[15:36] Alexa Linden: ahh ok
[15:36] Alexa Linden: ty
[15:36] Aric Linden: yeah, we have a machine of this config (though maybe more ram)
[15:36] Bridie Linden: oh cool
[15:36] Aric Linden: doesn't remember the ram on it
[15:36] Alexa Linden: you want it Aric?
[15:36] Aric Linden: well, I think the answer will end up being "buy ram"
[15:36] Alexa Linden: lol
[15:36] Aric Linden: but sure, import it and assign it to Kona
[15:36] Alexa Linden: ok
[15:36] Aric Linden: with love from me
[15:36] Bridie Linden: ty both
[15:36] Alexa Linden: :)
[15:37] Bridie Linden: Next
[15:37] Bridie Linden: VWR-5367[c
[15:37] Pastrami Linden: this is usually a good brand
[15:37] Pastrami Linden: [2]
[15:37] Bridie Linden: lol
[15:37] Bridie Linden: ram tough!
[15:37] Pastrami Linden: noisy as hell though
[15:38] Aric Linden: I think 5367 is a feature request, not a bug
[15:38] Alexa Linden: want me to change?
[15:38] Daedalus Young: need screenshots of what they mean
[15:38] Alexa Linden: ok
[15:39] Aric Linden: I agree with Daed - good call dude
[15:39] Daedalus Young: w00t!
[15:39] Squirrel Wood: I would assume the "texture" is not scaled properly
[15:39] Alexa Linden: I will request pics
[15:40] Bridie Linden: ty
[15:40] Bridie Linden: Next a linux voice issue
[15:40] Bridie Linden: # VWR-5718[c
[15:40] Aric Linden: import and give to tofu
[15:40] Alexa Linden: ok
[15:40] Bridie Linden: Next
[15:40] Bridie Linden: VWR-5673[c
[15:40] Aric Linden: wonders what would happen in a cage match between pastrami and tofu
[15:41] Bridie Linden: i pinged Andrew on this one
[15:41] Alexa Linden: I'd cry Fowl
[15:41] Bridie Linden: Next...
[15:41] Aric Linden: grins at Alexa
[15:41] Bridie Linden: (after another rimsh*t)
[15:41] Bridie Linden: VWR-5616[c
[15:41] Pastrami Linden: lol
[15:42] Bridie Linden: Another one for Tofu...
[15:42] Alexa Linden: ok
[15:42] Bridie Linden: Next up
[15:42] Bridie Linden: VWR-5769[c
[15:43] Bridie Linden: related to 5701 or dupe?
[15:43] Daedalus Young: yeah, I reported more mousewheel issues in the past
[15:43] Bridie Linden: I suspect there's an internal issue for scrolling already...
[15:44] Aric Linden: at least one
[15:44] Daedalus Young: like it always zooms the World Map, even if there's a scroll bar for the search results
[15:44] Bridie Linden: I'll dig it up and import/link as appropriate...
[15:44] Alexa Linden: ok
[15:44] Aric Linden: yeah, this should be imported. I suspect there's an issue passing the key message through the layers
[15:44] Bridie Linden: Next, did we talk bout before?
[15:44] Bridie Linden: VWR-5626[c
[15:45] Alexa Linden: sounds familiar
[15:45] Squirrel Wood: came up at the monday triage methinks
[15:45] Alexa Linden: ya
[15:45] Daedalus Young: I think last week we talked about it
[15:45] Alexa Linden: I'll checl
[15:45] Dakota Schwade: Before this ends, please let me know when I can jump in with an RC question, OK?
[15:45] Daedalus Young: Last Triaged: 19/Mar/08 11:10 AM
[15:45] Taryn London: I think last week too, sounds familiar
[15:45] Taryn London: nods
[15:46] Bridie Linden: ah yes
[15:46] Cummere Mayo: yes we had that last week
[15:46] Daedalus Young: Torley asked for more info, like Prefs settings
[15:47] Cummere Mayo: i think its not understanding the config settings and seeting them to how they should be for the way they want
[15:47] Bridie Linden: no response from reporter tho
[15:47] Bridie Linden: shall we leave this one for now?
[15:47] Alexa Linden: yup
[15:48] Bridie Linden: Next...
[15:48] Bridie Linden: VWR-5808[c
[15:48] Squirrel Wood: just checked
[15:48] Squirrel Wood: can't find such a file in c:\
[15:48] Taryn London: I've got one
[15:48] Harleen Gretzky: I have it in mine
[15:48] Daedalus Young: or somewhere else?
[15:49] Cummere Mayo: if youre preferences are set to keep a hsitory it shows up there
[15:49] Daedalus Young: I always hated apps creating files in places they shouldn't be
[15:49] Squirrel Wood: 1.19.1 Release Candidate
[15:49] Squirrel Wood: might probably be fixed already
[15:49] Harleen Gretzky: Only thing in it is: <llsd><undef /></llsd>
[15:50] Taryn London: My file was last accessed/updated March 22
[15:50] Taryn London: wait, nm, it was accessed today, updated Mar 22
[15:50] Bridie Linden: is it in c:\?
[15:50] Taryn London: Yep
[15:50] Bridie Linden: with RC3?
[15:51] Taryn London: Second Life 1.19.1 (1) Mar 11 2008 19:23:38 (Second Life Release Candidate)
[15:51] Cummere Mayo: I have it with rc 2/3 whichever is the last forced update
[15:51] Bridie Linden: let's import it then
[15:51] Alexa Linden: ok
[15:51] Harleen Gretzky: I delete mine before installing RC3 and see if it returns
[15:51] Bridie Linden: kk
[15:51] Bridie Linden: Next
[15:51] Bridie Linden: VWR-5816[c
[15:52] Bridie Linden: Lex couldn't repro...
[15:52] Harleen Gretzky: I am with Lex on this, I could not repro eitehr, might be specific to the object
[15:52] Bridie Linden: Let's resolve as such then. Thx Harleen
[15:53] Alexa Linden: ok
[15:53] Bridie Linden: VWR-5821[c
[15:53] Kooky Jetaime: my url_history.xml folder is in my personal user directory for sl.
[15:53] Squirrel Wood: not a bug
[15:53] Bridie Linden: Right
[15:53] Bridie Linden: we should link to 'fix'
[15:53] Harleen Gretzky: why os it not a bug?
[15:53] Kooky Jetaime: Uhm, as of the RC
[15:54] Kooky Jetaime: there is no packet loss/lag meter
[15:54] Kooky Jetaime: at least to me
[15:54] Squirrel Wood: because the graphs were removed to make room for that search bar top right?
[15:54] Bridie Linden: if you hide search text box the meters return
[15:54] Harleen Gretzky: It is an option in Preferences you can turn on
[15:55] Bridie Linden: See (lengthy) VWR-3156
[15:55] Bridie Linden: That leaves us with 5 mins to go...
[15:55] Alexa Linden: cake time!
[15:55] Harleen Gretzky: General tab Show search panel in overlay, you uncheck it and the meters are back
[15:55] Harleen Gretzky: but no toll tips like before
[15:55] Bridie Linden: We were hoping that this would be our final RC...
[15:56] Aric Linden: I'm going to leave a little early
[15:56] Alexa Linden: Bye Aric
[15:56] Aric Linden: is not a happy boy
[15:56] Harleen Gretzky: bye Aric
[15:56] Aric Linden: Bye Alexa
[15:56] Bridie Linden: but there are a few more issues we're looking into/have fixes for...
[15:56] Chaos Mohr: tc Aric :)
[15:56] Alexa Linden: feel better!
[15:56] Aric Linden: seeya Harleen
[15:56] Aric Linden: thanks all
[15:56] Aric Linden: be happy
[15:56] Kooky Jetaime: sweet, back to the bars
[15:56] Bridie Linden: Just wanted to give everyone a heads up....
[15:56] Squirrel Wood: best get those bugs squished then ^^
[15:56] Bridie Linden: MISC-1034 is on our radar and should be fixed
[15:57] Chaos Mohr: ty Bridie :))
[15:57] Bridie Linden: and we're looking into VWR-5743
[15:57] Bridie Linden: Thx for all of your help !
[15:57] Bridie Linden: You all are really helping improve the viewer!
[15:57] Alexa Linden: Thanks all!
[15:57] Bridie Linden: Now let's party!
[15:57] Squirrel Wood: Thanks for letting us help :)
[15:57] Daedalus Young: thx you too
[15:57] Alexa Linden: Have a great week!
[15:57] Cummere Mayo: if any linden here needs a genia pig, or wants someone that has exepreinced some of these issues to try soemthing real time with, feel free to ask for my card

Bug triage/2008-03-26/Transcript

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