User:Torley Linden/Office Hours/2008-09-11

Torley Linden shouts: FRIENDLY GREETINGS!
Imnotgoing Sideways: オ～マオ～ガ～(O,O)
Mason Genira: OMG OMG ITS TORLEY!
Chaos Mohr: Torley!!!!
Imnotgoing Sideways: Konnichiwa <Hi> (^_^)
Mason Genira: HIHI!
Object: Could not find script 'blast'.
Bau Ur: YAY Torley!
Object: Could not find script 'blood'.
Object: Could not find script 'bubbles'.
Torley Linden: i fly closer, that'll help :)
Object: Could not find script 'chain'.
Object: Could not find script 'cloud'.
Georgette Whitfield: HooHooHoo!! HooHooHooHooHoooooo!
Imnotgoing Sideways: \(^_^)/
Cube Republic: yay hi torley :D
Torley Linden: great to see you each and all rezzing in!
Pr0wer Miles: woot ^^
Torley Linden: hey hey hey! thanks for coming for my office hour!
Bau Ur: Anyone here use the JIRA to vote on issues? My freind Draco has some he would liek to bring to the attention of scripters.
Imnotgoing Sideways: I do. (^_^)
Fay Tal: friendly greetings :)
Cube Republic: fluke torley
Mason Genira: lol its like just gone 8pm here ^^
Georgette Whitfield: Were you on vacation Torley?
Bedordia Bedrosian: Thanks for HAVING an office hour!!
Torley Linden: by all means if you have particular issues feel free to mention them; depending on what they are tho, you may find the Release Candidate triages and other bug triages more welcome!
Mason Genira: I LOVE YOUR TUTORIALS!
Torley Linden: i was on vacation!
Torley Linden: OH THANKS MASON G LAD YOU DO
Mason Genira: lol
Torley Linden: you're welcome, Bedordia
Georgette Whitfield: Hope you had a good one Melon Dude!
Torley Linden: quick tip, BTW... if you ever wanted to turn off Facelights, in Release Candidate 1.21, Advanced menu > Rendering > Attached Lights can be toggled, and so can particles
Torley Linden: yes it was a great trip to the beach
Bedordia Bedrosian: This is my first time here; what is the etiquette for asking questions?
Cube Republic: oooh
Torley Linden: http://secondlife.com/download has the "TEST" RC viewer
Qie Niangao: ooo, very cool
Mason Genira: i like the beach to! :)
Cube Republic: i hate when your working on lights an facelights wash it all out
Cube Republic: handy
Sync_Booing ver 2 whispers: Type 'eeee' to booing action
Sync_Booing ver 2 whispers: Type 'eeee' to booing action
Bau Ur: ohnice tip Torley thanks!!!
Torley Linden: Bedordia, oh, it's usually very freestyle at my meetings, just ask and i'll answer as soon as i can, and anyone else who knows the answer/can help will do so, i'm sure
Mason Genira: i like your awesome shirt tutorial :)
Imnotgoing Sideways: Heh... Fine time to crash. (>_<)
Torley Linden: i feel kind of guilty because i originally popularized Facelights ;) ah well, going forward
Torley Linden: glad you do Mason, i had so much fun making that
Imnotgoing Sideways: オ～マオ～ガ～(O,O)
Mason Genira: ^^
Imnotgoing Sideways: So YOU'RE the one at fault for facelights!?!?!?!?!!!!!11!!!one!!!1!!! (>_<)
Georgette Whitfield: Torley see my group tag?
Orion Shamroy: Well, face lights are good... But kinda goofey when you've got alot of lighting effects in the scene. :)
Mason Genira: i thought itd be 12 pm in my time LOl
Georgette Whitfield: I did it! woot!
Mason Genira: this is my first time talkin to a linden
Mason Genira: lol
Cube Republic: just looking at your avatar torley, its a shame one cannot click a profile open from an 'inspected' object
Torley Linden: before the current lighting model, there was a time when lights added EXTREME amounts of viewer-side slowdown... so eventually, they shifted to being on the GPU... and in the future we're working on per-pixel lighting which doesn't have the current limits
Torley Linden: "we" in this case mainly being Runitai Linden
Mason Genira: your vids inspired me to become a building tutor
Torley Linden: Orion, yeah, facelights = use at description
Mason Genira: i made lightsabers,hats,presents and even more
Torley Linden: i'm thrilled to hear that Mason! that's what it's all about!
Imnotgoing Sideways giggles.
Bedordia Bedrosian: I don't see "attached lights" under rendering in advanced
Torley Linden: the Force is clearly with you
Mason Genira: lol
Torley Linden: Bedordia, you *have* to be on 1.21 RC
Torley Linden: not the main viewer
Torley Linden: it's a sneak peak at the next version
Mason Genira: ive got it
Torley Linden: http://secondlife.com/download towards the bottom :)
Fay Tal: torley.. i'd like to help tshoot the out of memory issue thats still happening in RC2, but need to know what info you require in the jira?
Torley Linden: Georgette, yes, GRIDNAUT is a great term too
Torley Linden: Periapse Linden, he coined that...
Imnotgoing Sideways: I gotta hold off for a day on RC2... I can't risk crashing in the class I'm teaching tonight. (T_T)
Georgette Whitfield: I iz gridnaut woot
Imnotgoing Sideways: \(^_^)/
Georgette Whitfield: Yay!
Torley Linden: Fay, i'm no longer closely involved with JIRA but, aside from more advanced memory profiling tools (not sure what others are using out there), i'd ask at the RC bug triage, and generally, SecondLife.log is good to include just in case
Bedordia Bedrosian: I have a question about particle settings
Torley Linden: i hope "Gridnaut" gets used far and wide, it's quite a fun word
Torley Linden: sure Bedordia, please ask :)
Mason Genira: ive been going thru my photos of my younger times
Cube Republic: or is it a bug?
Cube Republic: is it not a case of the machine really being out of memory when it is?
Georgette Whitfield: I need to buy a space suit now hehe
Cube Republic: lol back to front type
Bedordia Bedrosian: I don't know what I did, but... (that's a scary way to start a question, eh?)
Imnotgoing Sideways: Lawl ^-^
Bau Ur: ooooooTorely is so pretty today :) I am sorry you aren't involved in teh JIRA so much becasue I'd like your support for the idea of being able to remove avatar mesh or parts of it, instead of having to use flaky invisiprims. It would make really creative avatars so much more feasible!!
Bedordia Bedrosian: ...when I logged in this morning, anything scripted with particles, ends up making hexgonal particle clouds
Torley Linden: Bau, yes, some of our devs are VERY keen on that.
Mason Genira: oh yeah torley,i sometimes keep freezing at peridotic times and it annoys me
Bedordia Bedrosian: I can't figure out how to turn it off
Torley Linden: there will be community messaging needed to help with that (that's where i come in)
Bau Ur: Community messaging?
Torley Linden: Mason, happens to me too. has been happening for several versions now, not sure exactly why, it's frustrating. previously it was thought to be something with voice chat, but that wasn't conclusive.
Bau Ur: HI Rick!!
Mason Genira: ahh
Torley Linden: yes Bau, "getting the word out" about changes... feature functionality which differs.
Bedordia Bedrosian: or maybe they are rhomboidal particle clouds :)
Mason Genira: i hope it gets fixed ^^
Torley Linden: as i've always arguably done, some might say.
Torley Linden: Bedordia, have a screenshot?
Bedordia Bedrosian: I can make one
Bedordia Bedrosian: Um... I made a snapshot; how to I let you see it?
Mason Genira: i think you drag it into his profile
Torley Linden: Bedordia, did you upload it to your inventory? you can send it to me as a texture... or if you know how to post it on the web :)
Georgette Whitfield: Did anyone see this: http://www.reason.tv/video/show/480.html
Mason Genira: what is it?
Georgette Whitfield: Video about SL
Torley Linden: i am going to see that in full soon, Georgette... drew carey in SL!
Georgette Whitfield: Yup lol
Imnotgoing Sideways: Whot??? <(o.O)>
Mason Genira: i made a flag with my youtube profile but it got all screwey with my logo XD
Georgette Whitfield: Donno who he is but I guess he's big in America
Imnotgoing Sideways: Well.. He is "big". (^_^)
Georgette Whitfield: It's quite a good balanced video though
Torley Linden: heheh Drew Carey was the host of "Who's line is it anyway?" which had lots of improv fun
Georgette Whitfield: Hhehehe yeah
Torley Linden: thanks Bedordia *has a look*
Georgette Whitfield: Ah
Cube Republic: can i give you a toy for your island torley?
Mason Genira: you tell me does my logo look good now lol
Torley Linden: sure Cube :)
Mason Genira: i might hav to redo my flag :(
Torley Linden: *watches as the picture rezzes*
DarkMason11 Youtube Banner Flag!(MasonG): Touched.
Georgette Whitfield: It's less derogatory than many of the reviews SL has gotten
Imnotgoing Sideways giggles.
Georgette Whitfield: I think Drew actually did some proper research
Torley Linden: AHHHH BEDORDIA, yes, classic problem!
Torley Linden: Advanced menu > Show Updates, turn that OFF
Torley Linden: ot'
Torley Linden: oops :)
Mason Genira: ^^
Torley Linden: it's a diagnostic tool but it can be very annoying
Bedordia Bedrosian: Ah! You are my hero.
Torley Linden: in 1.21 at least, the shortcut is disabled so you don't ever accidentally activate it
Imnotgoing Sideways: \(^_^)/
Torley Linden: happy to help of course :)
Bedordia Bedrosian: Can I have your autograph? ;)
Mason Genira: my fav food is ....Chicken noodles:D
Torley Linden: there are a lot of Featurettes in 1.21, those are little features that, put together, make a big difference :D
Cube Republic: lol
Qie Niangao: Oh, that's good news, losing that shortcut
Torley Linden: hehe you can have my autograph on my Linden Bear, sure! anyone else want my Linden bear? let me know, i'll give you one :D
Qie Niangao: of course it will cut the help requests in the forums by half :p
Mason Genira: me plz
Bedordia Bedrosian: Thanks so much! Now I've got to go clean my RL house. Ciao!
Cube Republic: i like the chat colour
Georgette Whitfield: Torley do you still have your old bear
Mason Genira: i like the idea aout lime green and pink put together :)
Fay Tal: i'd like your bear :)
Cube Republic: but was crashing me
Torley Linden: i've only had that 1 bear so far :)
Georgette Whitfield: The trademark infringing one? ;-)
Mason Genira: mines blue and pink
Imnotgoing Sideways giggles.
Georgette Whitfield: That version is collectable since you changed it
Pr0wer Miles: gah I am back I crashed when torley just got here -_-
Mason Genira accepted your inventory offer.
Mason Genira: Thank you! ^^
Imnotgoing Sideways: Oh is it now? (o.o)
Mason Genira accepted your inventory offer.
Bedordia Bedrosian accepted your inventory offer.
Georgette Whitfield: Aye
Torley Linden: oh lol i changed that texture
Imnotgoing Sideways: Ooooh. (^_^)
Torley Linden: yes, true... hahah Georgette
Georgette Whitfield: Hehehe yeah
Torley Linden: VERY sharp of you <.<
XLR8RRICK Hudson: A Torley original Bear --- Yes please
Georgette Whitfield: It's a limited edition now
Bedordia Bedrosian accepted your inventory offer.
Mason Genira: ^^
Mason Genira: man i wish bill would accept my tele! XD
Imnotgoing Sideways: Wah... Never thought of it that way. (o.o)
Torley Linden: Qie great point, that question was the bane of part of my existence, i like looking for patterns like that and seeing where friction could be decreased
Torley Linden: curiosity is good but some questions should not be asked, simply because the UI doesn't make sense... make it easier and those queries won't come up!
Mason Genira: i think the linden bear is cute!^^
Torley Linden: yeah, i was filming that "Who are Lindens?" vid and suddenly, i noticed i infringed on the Second Life logo trademark
Georgette Whitfield: muahahaha!
Torley Linden: not supposed to change it to green and pink, you see
Torley Linden: haha
Mason Genira: lol
Pr0wer Miles: nice
Torley Linden: in my ongoing spirit of leaving bugs/mistakes in tho, i just shared that :)
Imnotgoing Sideways: Ooh... So if it stayed the original colors, it would have been fine? (o.o)
Mason Genira: my logo is just darkmason then a puppy in a yin yang sign :)
Qie Niangao: i would just *love* it if some kind of naive troubleshooting guide emerged from the new blog/forums/knowledgebase integration.
XLR8RRICK Hudson: no bear for xl ?
Torley Linden: Qie, specifically what did you have in mind?
XLR8RRICK Hudson accepted your inventory offer.
Torley Linden: sorry XL, here you go :)
Imnotgoing Sideways: =^-^=
Georgette Whitfield: Yes Qie mentors could easily work on a wiki page like that
XLR8RRICK Hudson accepted your inventory offer.
Qie Niangao: well, to start, the plan to elevate forums posts to kb articles...
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XLR8RRICK Hudson: Thanks
Mason Genira: i might consider makin avis
Mason Genira: and maybe more lightsabers
Qie Niangao: but to eventually get, like, a procedure/ decision tree.
Mason Genira: just gotten into makin em now u see ^^
Torley Linden: ah yes our Doc Team is keen about that, collecting the best of the forum post help and distilling them into KB articles. i've done that before myself with videos and wiki pages, essentially.
Cube Republic: i just rewatched all of star wars
Torley Linden: the whole Clothing Tutorials page sprung off of that influence
Cube Republic: awesome
DarkMason11 Youtube Banner Flag!(MasonG): Touched.
Torley Linden: Doc Team = Jon, Jeremy, Kate Linden, who write the Knowledge Base
Bau Ur: good thing
Cube Republic: i hope lucas makes more
Torley Linden: they are my close colleagues, i talk with them frequently
Torley Linden: what do you think of the Clone Wars series, Cube?
Bau Ur: hmm but you now even the KB needs some grammaticla editing at times. I would volunteer to help with that if I could.
Mason Genira: tired..its like 8 pm here i thought i wouldnt get the chance to come aha ^^
Qie Niangao haunts Jon & Jeremy's couches occasionally
Evil Titler: Spruce Canning needs a new title! To set it, anyone may say the text on /13. Spruce is not able to change it.
Georgette Whitfield: Yeah Jello Jon heheh
Torley Linden: haha hey Spruce! :D
Torley Linden: lol Jon is sometimes the Green Lantern
Torley Linden: he seems to like green ;D
Spruce Canning: Hey There
Evil Titler: Imnotgoing Sideways has set a new title for Spruce Canning! Spruce will have to live with this until the next chance for it to be changed.
Torley Linden: i encourage Lindens to have memorable avatars
Imnotgoing Sideways: Lawl ^-^
Torley Linden: set a good example and all that
Torley Linden: shame if a Linden has a n00b avatar (unless they're joking)
Mason Genira: i know i have a few good memories on this :)
Pr0wer Miles: lol well you seem to have the most unique ones lol
Torley Linden: Spruce i'll send your answers to those questions later today :) thanks for asking!
Imnotgoing Sideways: Heh... I got a shot of Plexus in noobie gear, and a shrunken head. (^_^)
Torley Linden: hahahaha
Cube Republic: those innocent noob times *sigh* never to be repeated
Cube Republic: LOL
Spruce Canning: Thanks much
Torley Linden: i know GTeam has sometimes donned ugly griefer avatars for dramatic purposes and re-enactments
Georgette Whitfield: I loved being a newbie
Cube Republic: me too
Georgette Whitfield: I still have all the pics
Georgette Whitfield: And look back with fondness
Cube Republic: i changed
Mason Genira: man sudoku is so hard!
XLR8RRICK Hudson: now Meep here has a cool av
Pr0wer Miles: lol
Orion Shamroy sighs, remembering his first build - a big ugly blue and white skybox that was destroyed with a single careless click... :P :)
Imnotgoing Sideways eeps. (o.o)
Torley Linden: i wish some stuff was easier to undo
Mason Genira: i betted my mate id figure sudoku out by saturday or id have to pay him #5 ^^
Georgette Whitfield: :)))
Torley Linden: ha, i've played inworld Sudoku before... :)
Georgette Whitfield: Me too
Bau Ur: My first build was a pile of three ornamental rocks. It took me four hours :)
Torley Linden: it's kinda like magic square but different
Mason Genira: lol
Cube Republic: wheres that crackling sound coming from?
Qie Niangao: This is a question more for Benjamin, I guess, but... does anyone know what happened to the NAV project on the jira, the UI thing Vectorform was working on?
Georgette Whitfield: There are different difficulty levels Mason
Georgette Whitfield: I can't do the hard ones
Mason Genira: i just love techno music
Jaymes Kjeller: You know, I've been ignoring my Flickr account reccently, maybe I should take more inworld pictures.
Pr0wer Miles: never seen that but funny you should mention magic square, I have to make one in my programming class
Torley Linden: i don't know, Qie; haven't heard recently.
Torley Linden: Cube, must be my vinyl record upstairs.
Torley Linden: Jaymes, i totally encourage you to.
Cube Republic: lol
Imnotgoing Sideways: Lawl ^-^
Torley Linden: Mason, me too, many styles of electronic music!
Cube Republic: i sold my vinyls
Mason Genira: ahh...A HUGE DIFFERENCE in Timeline in US and UK
Qie Niangao: Thanks, Torley. (was just surprised not to find it at all on the jira anymore)
Georgette Whitfield: Oh no Cube!
Mason Genira: cool ^^
Torley Linden: the joy of snapshots is not to be underestimated... you'll never regret taking pictures of your early Second Life.
Torley Linden: you look back, and go... OOOOH
Georgette Whitfield loves the smell of records
XLR8RRICK Hudson: your going to regret that Cube
Mason Genira: i took a pic so i wouldnt forget this XD
Torley Linden: DJ culture helped vinyl live on, verily.
Cube Republic: yes the standard of builds recently, the bar has been raised
Cube Republic: i love how sl is developing
Georgette Whitfield: Yes so much talent inworld
Torley Linden: seeing new techniques and such...
Georgette Whitfield: Same for fashion and avs
Mason Genira: in a month;s time its my newphews BD
XLR8RRICK Hudson: you mean Evolving
Cube Republic: new sculpts out now!
Georgette Whitfield: In the last year it's grown so much
Torley Linden: oh hey i see Mark Barrett :) creator of SLBuzz which i use for enhanced Flickr photo tagging and even machine tags too :)
Mason Genira: he plays this so im in charge of makin the birthday cake for his BD on this :)
Mark Barrett: I took plenty of pics of Burning Life 2006. I still look at them :D
Mason Genira: i have pics of gunz and still look at em lol
Mark Barrett: its awesome to look back two years and remember all the details
Holocluck Henly: sorry i'm late - rl interfered
Imnotgoing Sideways: Konnichiwa <Hi> (^_^)
Torley Linden: i'm looking forward to photographing Burning Life 2008, anyone here going to show off your art?
Mason Genira: it was back when i was a noob at it ^^
Imnotgoing Sideways: I might. (^_^)
ColeMarie Soleil waves.
Cube Republic: yeah me
Torley Linden: Coley!
Georgette Whitfield: I'm going to be a Ranger Torley
ColeMarie Soleil: HAI!
Holocluck Henly: konnichiwa genki deska
Bau Ur: I just want to voice my support for LL going ahead and doing whatever ultimately gives us the most tools and best results, even if it makes old stuff obsolete and even if soem of our computrs can't handle it. I am at risk for becomeing unable to handle it myself, and I still feel that way.
Imnotgoing Sideways: Ha~i. =^-^=
Qie Niangao: oo... speaking of Burning Life... crap: have all the non-reserved slots been awarded already? anybody know?
Imnotgoing Sideways: The land grab starts tomorrow. (^_^)
Cube Republic: thats about 50m hight torlet
Mason Genira: griefers on this..just plain cruel and nasty
Cube Republic: torley*
Georgette Whitfield: My friends are running the SL Seniors camp hehe
Qie Niangao: timely! thanks, Immy :)
Torley Linden: Bau, yeah, some of the fear of "old stuff obsolete" is because certain folks have profited from selling one thing over and over and are more afraid of losing money than being creative
Torley Linden: i think it always helps to adapt, learn, try new tools and see how they can benefit you
Cube Republic: for sure
Mason Genira: pratice makes perfect :)
Dizzy Banjo: howdy gang
Mason Genira: just like makin a tie for my saber XD
Torley Linden: tools don't make anything obsolete by themselves, they need to be used, shaped, shared.
ColeMarie Soleil: Hai dizzy you want toast?
Torley Linden: heya Dizzy!
Mason Genira: :9 work tommorow lol
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Dizzy Banjo: ok i haz some toast
Imnotgoing Sideways: I'm still trying to get my SolidWorks stuff into SL... I can do an import to Blender, then blender confuses my butt off. (T_T)
Pr0wer Miles: lol learned a lot from your tuts and new tools you reviewed
ColeMarie Soleil: But you don't haz my killer toast... -_- fail
Qie Niangao: Blender is teh Evol
Torley Linden: big gap in usability with sculpties is exactly that, it can't be done easily inworld
Torley Linden: and there's a learning curve... and then it'll get easier...
Mason Genira: i cant believe you can turn your hand 260 degrees torley! that must hurt ^^
ColeMarie Soleil: Blender is great if you use photoshop to round out the rougher edges
Mason Genira: 360*
ColeMarie Soleil: on the map
Imnotgoing Sideways: Heh "curve" ... (=_=)
Torley Linden: some might argue in the far-off future, they'll be more things which make current sculpties obsolete, but we keep going
Imnotgoing Sideways: Ooooh. (^_^)
Torley Linden: oh thank you Pr0wer! glad you let me know, if you didn't, i wouldn't know ;)
Mason Genira: this chicken popcorn in my hand was so hard to make
Mason Genira: first i had to link all the nuggets 1 by 1 !
Holocluck Henly grumbles and wishes SL building had extrusions so we wouldnt need sculpties
Imnotgoing Sideways eeps. (o.o)
Qie Niangao: well... meshes may not be too far off, as opposed to sculpty NURBS
Torley Linden: hahaha "linking nuggets", was that finger-SLicking good?
Mark Barrett: nuggets :D
Mason Genira: lololol
Pr0wer Miles: lol
Imnotgoing Sideways <- works with extrusions all day. (^_^)y
Torley Linden: i can't speculate on the state of some internal graphics development, but aye, meshes have been a hope for a long time
Torley Linden: and it'll help attract people who are used to and skilled with other, advanced 3D tools
Orion Shamroy has a Homer Simpson moment -> puddle of drool forms below him...
Mason Genira: i still have my johnny the tutor dragon from a week ago ^^
Cube Republic: theres a vote on jira......meshes -v- better in world tools
Qie Niangao: Qarl asked for prioritization between mesh representation and in-world tools for sculpties
Torley Linden: having more artists from other disciplines in Second Life is great, because they can share their talents and wow us all with great content
ColeMarie Soleil still wants my animated particles damnit
Mason Genira: i joined 2 weeks ago and alredy fitted in! :))
Qie Niangao: Cube types faster :)
Squirrel Wood: POKE!!!!
Dizzy Banjo: there is an interesting pair of JIRA's to vote for meshes or prim development
Pr0wer Miles: well with meshes SL would really start to change in new ways
Imnotgoing Sideways pokes Squirrel back. (^_^)
Cube Republic: imagine half of turbo squid uploaded
Cube Republic: lol
Imnotgoing Sideways injects you with evil!
Pr0wer Miles: kinda fun to see what ppl would do
Bau Ur: In SL, business, the hope of making money, is not the engine of creativity. Cretaive people are the engine of creativity. Yeah, give us TOOOOOLS and I really do not care if it makes somebody's commercial product obsolete.
ColeMarie Soleil stares at Imnotgoing Sideway's name in awe.
Holocluck Henly: Actually Torley everyone who escaped VRML wishes we could convert wrl to SL or at least sculpties. We're back to stone knives lol
Imnotgoing Sideways: Lawl ^-^
Mason Genira: the pain of havin to let your old school mates go ;(
Mason Genira: i hope i do mett em again some time
Bau Ur: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-812
Torley Linden: Bau: aye, but granted, money does motivate people. e.g., if someone wants Maya... that costs a lot. :) or if they work in SL and are creative, but use that as a means to make a living.
Torley Linden: i remember being in the early VRML days, i played with Virtus (if anyone remembers that)
Imnotgoing Sideways: What's a starving artist to do? (T_T)
Torley Linden: i got so lonely tho there, i was like "i can't invite anyone into my house?"
Bau Ur: The chances they willmake enough here to pay for May, though, are ridiculously small.
Cube Republic: i managed to live from sl over summer vacation this year :D
Mason Genira: torley this is a question thats been on my mind
Holocluck Henly: heh I made worlds and objects with Spazz. Now... well i can do SOME of it but... you should SEE the handcoders here - they are lost!
Torley Linden: okay Mason... :)
Mason Genira: doesnt your hand give away when you turn it 360 degrees??
Mason Genira: i mean it must hurt
Bau Ur: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2666
lity to have skeletons
Holocluck Henly: Speak for yourself I'm a hologram in Sl
Torley Linden: Mason, a little. but not a lot. i've gotten used to doing it.
Imnotgoing Sideways: Good job!!! XD
Mason Genira: ^^
Torley Linden: awhile back we had ideas for pet animals, that hasn't come to fruition.
Georgette Whitfield: I love your wee scratchy cat there Torley
Mason Genira: whos been discussing the BIG BANG? daa daaaa!
Georgette Whitfield: Adorable
Holocluck Henly: as in following us around or being on our land?
Phox McCaw: Helloo!~ :D
Bau Ur: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1258
atar shape sizes.
Torley Linden: haha thanks Georgette, my wife placed it!
Mason Genira: the bang that was meant to of made the universe
Torley Linden: Holocluck: mesh, soft-deformable type doggies and cats and whatever else... the intent was kind of like spore creatures
Torley Linden: LHC!
Mason Genira: they started the project in switz
Cube Republic: oh the particle exceleratot ?
Holocluck Henly thinks they sound like the doodles in Toontown, which resemble schmoos
Georgette Whitfield: There is a bit about that in Angels & Demons which was published about 1999
Imnotgoing Sideways: Wah... Lunch break over... Gotta go. (T_T)
Mason Genira: i heard kids outside my house goin ohh the worlds gonna end! ^^
Georgette Whitfield: So they've been doing that for a while
Imnotgoing Sideways says Bai Baii!!! (^_^)y
Pr0wer Miles: ah yea I saw that on CNN i think
Torley Linden: it was sad to see on the news that some people killed themselves because of fears the LHC would end the world. if it really did that, we'd all be dead, anyway.
Georgette Whitfield: Really?
Georgette Whitfield: They killed themselves?
Mason Genira: o.O
Georgette Whitfield: Oh no that's horrid
Georgette Whitfield: I never read that
Cube Republic: i had a paper bag ready to place over my head and was near a table to lay beneath just in case
Torley Linden: yes Georgette, i saw headlines from http://popurls.com and it didn't look like a hoax
Georgette Whitfield: :-(((
Mark Barrett: sorry this is a bit off topib, but are most regions using mono now? i think i read something about a rollout a few weeks back
Squirrel Wood: There's always people predicting the end of the world. So far all of them were proved wrong :p
Mason Genira: 9/11 day today
Georgette Whitfield: Yes
ColeMarie Soleil: Im a bit late on the "doodles" remark but \m/
Mark Barrett: topic, that is. :-D
Torley Linden: Mark, yes, afaik they should be on 1.24 (Server version) as you can check from Help menu > About Second Life
Torley Linden: there've been some complications though which are being worked on
Cube Republic: the mayan callender ends when the first proper experiment is run in switzerland
Torley Linden: for the next version of server code
Mason Genira: we all at work had to be silent ive been thinking about makin a graveyard for all those who died on 9/11 here in SL
Dizzy Banjo: haha cube
ColeMarie Soleil: yeah but reading out every single name is a bit morbid >.< lol
Mark Barrett: oh so cool. that probably opens the door quite a bit to having more AI, NPC style things.
Bau Ur: There is a big 911 memorial already
Mason Genira: 7th anniversary huh
Holocluck Henly: Mason that sounds very tasteless
Mason Genira: oh gotta go now
ColeMarie Soleil: How is it tasteless?
Mason Genira: its gettin pretty dark
Squirrel Wood: depends on your point of view
ColeMarie Soleil: There's a vietnam one here
ColeMarie Soleil: it's called the wall I think
Mason Genira: and i can see me fallin asleep on my keyboard ^^
Mason Genira: cya later torley :))))
ColeMarie Soleil: pretty nice build too
Holocluck Henly: I guess you have to be in NYC to see it as tasteless
ColeMarie Soleil: Agree to disagree :D
Georgette Whitfield: Bye Mason
Torley Linden: i think the Mayan calendar actually continues after 2012, it's been misconstrued that it's the end
Holocluck Henly: culture clash agreed
ColeMarie Soleil: not culture
Torley Linden: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican_Long_Count_calendar
ColeMarie Soleil: opinion clash
Orion Shamroy: Well now thank you George Noorey! hehe :)
Dizzy Banjo: i worked out that the safety study for CERN, states that nature has already carried out 100,000 cern experiments on earth. However, the earth is 4.5 Billion years old. Simple maths means that it has only happened on average every 750,000 years.
Dizzy Banjo: 0,o
Dizzy Banjo: should be fun !
ColeMarie Soleil: YAY!
ColeMarie Soleil: for your uber nerdness
Georgette Whitfield: WEll CERN have been doing that way longer than since yesterday
Jaymes Kjeller: Which goes to show that most people will belive anything you throw at them. Mostly. (Do note that's just my personal opinion.)
Pr0wer Miles: its the aztec calender that comes to an end, but some say it might be the end of old ways a new start :D
Bau Ur: The ancient Mayans were poor struggling screwed up human beings like the rest of us. i see no reason to venerate their prophesies.
Heiliger Barbosa: hi everybody :)
Cube Republic: an end to war!
Torley Linden: Jaymes, it is true a lot of people believe in malarky, baloney, and myths. unfortunately so, our superstitions also lead humans to being scammed!
Qie Niangao: Jaymes, I believe you :p
Torley Linden: hahaha Bau.
Torley Linden: that's a great quote. :)
Georgette Whitfield: I only heard of one guy saying about the black holes, no one else seemed bothered
Cube Republic: true bau who died from VD
Torley Linden: hiya Heiliger! great to see you here
Holocluck Henly: thats so true torley
Heiliger Barbosa: hiya :)
Torley Linden: it is true we romanticize past eras,
Squirrel Wood: Want to laugh about stupid? on http://notalwaysright.com/ you can :p
Cube Republic: of course
Dizzy Banjo: incidentally if you want to find out more about Mayans, within Second Life, try the Visit Mexico sims and take the butterfly ride :)
Torley Linden: in movies we glamorize them, even though there was much more sickness and death
Cube Republic: absolutely
Phox McCaw: true the calender ends on 2012 dec (cant remember the day ) at 11:11 but that is only to show an event all we may know tho is that it's the time of that civilizations beleaf in the beginning of a new era rather the end of the world.
Pr0wer Miles: true
Torley Linden: oh i've had a great time at those Visit Mexico regions, infact i did the "2012" and "2013" WindLight presets based on them :)
Dizzy Banjo: w00t
Bau Ur: and always cruelty. I refuse to believe in the religious proclamations of any culture until they demonstarate their enlightenment be stopping war and torture .
Pr0wer Miles: nice
Cube Republic: it must be great to die knowing you wera blundgened with a club, being it a conventional weapon
ColeMarie Soleil: lalalala's at religious discussion in the happy slice
Bau Ur: pardon, that was irrelevant of me. It is the kind of thing I think of a lot. Pardon me.
Qie Niangao: enlightenment is such a fragile thing.
Torley Linden: the self-help industry is really like a buffet, you pick and choose what you believe in.
ColeMarie Soleil: :D
Torley Linden: i like that word "Enlightenment" tho ;D
ColeMarie Soleil: Reminds me of highlighters.
Heiliger Barbosa: i like cakes
Heiliger Barbosa: :)
Holocluck Henly: Enlightenment means you pick the Fool card as the significator in Tarot
Holocluck Henly: I havent reached enlightenment yet lol
ColeMarie Soleil: You know why?
Torley Linden: when i think of cards, i think of the Joker in The Dark Knight. that was a great movie.
ColeMarie Soleil: You're trying ;p
Torley Linden: hahaha
Cube Republic: that movie is awesome!
Torley Linden: "do or do not, there is no try"
Pr0wer Miles: sigh I haven't seen any movies in a while =/
ColeMarie Soleil: :D
Holocluck Henly: I havent seen it yet *whimpers* well i cant cry I got good land. lol
Cube Republic: hellride the new tarantino is a laugh
Holocluck Henly: the tickets are $12 here
Torley Linden: Tarantino is a maverick
Cube Republic: catch hellride it rocks, dennis hopper is in it
Torley Linden: btw, that made me recall, the Kill Bill trailer music, that "Battle Without Honor and Humanity" with the guitars and horn stabs -- the beat in that is from Led Zeppelin
Torley Linden: Dennis Hopper had a reputation for riding motorcycles before
Holocluck Henly: hehehe
Cube Republic: yeah :D
Heiliger Barbosa: do anyone know the ghost rider? ... not the film
Holocluck Henly: Which comic the 70s or the 50s
Qie Niangao: like, as a close personal friend?
Cube Republic: ll
ColeMarie Soleil: ahahah
Heiliger Barbosa: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx1CkPcICaY
Heiliger Barbosa: i mean this one
Holocluck Henly: if you said dr strange I would have raised my hand. whew
Orion Shamroy: Agh, gotta go. Live long and prosper happy peoples! :) **poofs**
Torley Linden: take care Orion!
Torley Linden: i like "ghostride the whip"
Georgette Whitfield: Bye
Dizzy Banjo: incidentally Torley, the message in a bottle project is currently still awaiting a home, i guess things are kinda crazy busy atm, just thought you might want to know that :)
Torley Linden: i always love seeing what sorts of first life phenomena we try to recreate and improve upon here
Holocluck Henly makes believe he doesnt see a cat ruining the wallpaper
Torley Linden: thanks Dizzy, who did you talk to last about it? i don't know which Lindens have "ownership" of communicating with you on that, so to speak
Holocluck Henly tries to push his Hall of Subcultures for Infohubs on Torley
Georgette Whitfield: Oh what is that project, Dizzy?
Georgette Whitfield: It sounds very interesting
Torley Linden: Holocluck, tell me more about this!
Rock Pond Pose ball: llStopAnimation: Script trying to stop animations but agent not found
Dizzy Banjo: Mia primarily, although I spoke with Catherine and Dusty about it too
Torley Linden: i used to own the Infohubs, BTW -- not anymore, it's the providence of the New User Experience Team now (Blue Linden is a great guy to ask about them)
Holocluck Henly: Well I think as part of the first experience - or second if moving around is the first - one inicluded a sort of exhibit of the main subcultures of SL
Torley Linden: ahhh okay Dizzy. yeah, i'd definitely ping again if it's been weeks without reply, i know last week was SLCC and all that. it's such a remarkable project.
Holocluck Henly: to familiarize people of what to expect and to maybe give people a direction
Georgette Whitfield: Tell us Dizzy!
Dizzy Banjo: thanks Torley :)
Georgette Whitfield: I agree Holocluck
Holocluck Henly: I mentioned that last night to Blue and Teagan :)
Dizzy Banjo: http://blip.tv/file/1073529 < this is the message in a bottle project
Cube Republic: if you like ghostrider you should search 'train surfer'
Georgette Whitfield: The Info Island new resident center has that very thing
Holocluck Henly: It does? where is? I never seen
Georgette Whitfield: Thanks Dizzy
Dizzy Banjo: it started at SL5B
Georgette Whitfield: I'll give you a LM
Torley Linden: way cool Holocluck
Holocluck Henly: ty please do :)
Georgette Whitfield: It could be expanded on
Bau Ur: The newbies I deal with seem to be more and more pathetic. Seriously, the introduction of newbies to SL has GOT to be improved!
Georgette Whitfield: We're trying to get Infohub status
Torley Linden: for the record, i'm a BIG believer in maintaining and promoting culture of Second Life.
Georgette Whitfield: Pathetic?
Georgette Whitfield: Explain yourself Bau!
Torley Linden: I-World Team was working on a museum of SL stuff but they haven't completed that.
Holocluck Henly: I think it would be great not just to avoid culture shock but also people know what to expect, maybe a little etiquette in those circles AND a notecard list of places and groups associated with them
Dizzy Banjo: i really liked the infohub program
Bau Ur: pathetic as in, have not idea what SL is about and have absolutely zero skills when they get to the mainland.
Torley Linden: Here, through my visionary prism anyway, partially represents what i've come across in my journeys.
ColeMarie Soleil takes a phoenix down and recovers from crashing.
Torley Linden: SLetiquette - http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Sletiquette
Dizzy Banjo: the days when proximity to infohubs created quite a social dynamic
Holocluck Henly: I applied this week to be a mole - swoon it is my boon
Cube Republic: nice link dizzy...i like 'i dont watch TV' lol TV RIP!!!
Torley Linden: haha Cole that's a FF reference :)
ColeMarie Soleil :D I had no idea ;p
Dizzy Banjo: :D
Torley Linden: Dizzy, yeah, that was back when we didn't have direct TPs.
Georgette Whitfield: Bau that is most new residents and always has been.
Georgette Whitfield: It's cos they're new
Georgette Whitfield: Cut 'em some slack
Dizzy Banjo: yeh it was kind of more contigious social experience back then
ColeMarie Soleil: Oh like pin the bottle
Holocluck Henly: And yeah some cultures are in just about every virtual community, but some seem to be most prominent here
ColeMarie Soleil: er
ColeMarie Soleil: crap nevermind Ive been up way too long
Torley Linden: i do think more up-front vivid cultural education would help. don't think everyone sees the importance of that, but it's fun to learn where words like "rez" came from, the horrific days of being "ruthed", and many, many other things unique to SL.
Torley Linden: there are many achievements which are "only in SL", or how we started it and others are influenced.
Holocluck Henly: ty reorge
Georgette Whitfield: Geo or Georgette please
ColeMarie Soleil: torley needs to start making sl "pop up videos" old school vh1 style
Georgette Whitfield: :)
ColeMarie Soleil: hahahaha
Torley Linden: some other virtual worlds refer to their customers as Residents... with other word choices available, i think that not to be a coincidence. ;)
Torley Linden: hahah Cole, yeah, i loved those vids, used to watch them a LOT
ColeMarie Soleil: AHAHAHA me tooo
Torley Linden: all those factoids
ColeMarie Soleil: \m/
Torley Linden: i could add a bubble sound effect and make the text subtitles appear all fancy
Holocluck Henly: eep
Dizzy Banjo: w00t
ColeMarie Soleil: yeah that's what I meant :D
Georgette Whitfield: Holo were you talking about resources for furry, Gorean, Steampunk and so on?
ColeMarie Soleil: put your fancy torley music on it
ColeMarie Soleil: TADA
Holocluck Henly: if there's one thing that was overwhelming on day 1 here it was being bombarded with notecards
Holocluck Henly: everything was passing notes
Georgette Whitfield: That's what I assumed you meant by SL cultures
Holocluck Henly: Georgette yes
Torley Linden: oh yes, notecards havea remained fundamentally unchanged... i remember my first few days, boxes o' freebies BUT... so hard to sort them
Georgette Whitfield: Cool
Dizzy Banjo: i seem to remember there being a cool "history of SL" exhibit at SL4B
Torley Linden: and never, ever, NEVER, EVER underestimate the benefits of click actions -- i cringe when i go to stores that don't use click actions. granted, the feature could be better exposed, but, they're SO useful, including for newcomers!
Holocluck Henly: not general etiquette, but what if you had a URL to say Luskwood for the general furry category? Luskwood might have some basic etiquette or slang for their group
Dizzy Banjo: which showed lots of cool stuff like the evolution of the naming system and groups and TPs etc
ColeMarie Soleil watches the name list all the time.
ColeMarie Soleil finds it entertaining.
Torley Linden: click actions are found in General tab when editing an object, "When Left-Clicked" down at the bottom, and there's going to be future improvements to those, because our internal tests confirm that lack of click actions causes many problems. MANY problems.
Jaymes Kjeller: Agreed Torley, I find it easier when things use click actions.
Holocluck Henly: i dont know anything about gorean except it confuses several mainstream subscultures and furries dont like them LOL what else do I know?
Cube Republic: theres UV mapping with multi click instances now for coders
ColeMarie Soleil: HAHAHAHA goreans
Holocluck Henly: see? lol
Dizzy Banjo: i like projects like the SL Wikia for thsi
Torley Linden: YES, that too, Cube!
Torley Linden: i look forward to more kewl gadgets with that!
Dizzy Banjo: helps document various cultures and projects
Cube Republic: lol
Cube Republic: the mind boggles
Qie Niangao: and 1-prim chessboards.
Cube Republic: ooh
Evil Titler: No-one gave Spruce Canning a new title! Spruce will stay with the existing one for a while more.
Torley Linden: Qie, i hadn't thought of that as an example.
Torley Linden: good one :)
Kaedi James: ohh
Fay Tal: or 1 prim huds too :)
Holocluck Henly: Unfortunately for some - such as the cyberpunks - clarifying in exhibits all over SL what steampunk really is would force them to be their own culture
Torley Linden: yeah, SL Wikia is the most comprehensive out there that i know of, but in part, that's because historical chroniclers are comparatively rare
Georgette Whitfield: I think the kind of resource you want Holo would be really useful
Torley Linden: steampunks gained great ground i think because of places like Caledon
Torley Linden: those sorts of social hubs, with the whole neo-Victorian garb and all that
Georgette Whitfield: And I'm sure the libraries would display it if the Lindens don't want to
Cube Republic: caledon is huge and rarely has empty parcels, its a good example of a community in sl in my opinion
Georgette Whitfield: Yes and a subculture
Holocluck Henly: true but no one really states outright THIS is what it is, these are its origins versus it's steam, rivets, bronze...
Torley Linden: one thing the public SL wiki is very useful for ( http://wiki.secondlife.com ) is including stuff on an official webspace which isn't necessarily official itself; it could be subjective and a colored opinion, but nonetheless is a fine example to look at
ColeMarie Soleil: *coughs*highly
Georgette Whitfield: You could do both Holo: inworld display and a wiki site
Georgette Whitfield: And I'm sure we could recruit other folks to help :)
Dizzy Banjo: yeh i use my SL Wiki page as my main project listing now
Torley Linden: and as we get more display of web media inworld, that integration becomes easier
Holocluck Henly: Well, I suppose one could have those pages on display at the hubs, each in their own miniparcel for another page if it doesnt lag the place down
Torley Linden: i see so many great ideas, not enough great execution
Holocluck Henly: gmta\
ColeMarie Soleil: Exactly.
ColeMarie Soleil: =/
Torley Linden: Here island (you are Here now! haha!) is in part an experimental ground for me testing a lot of content
Torley Linden: and figuring out stuff that's useful and will scale bigger
Georgette Whitfield: Torley what are your tips on getting stuff done?
Cube Republic: i love the new you tube widget for viewing YT content, its so more interactive than for4 example, sharing a link via MSN chat
Georgette Whitfield: It takes me ages to do anything lol
Torley Linden: Georgette, oh, i have some outside of Second Life :)
Mark Barrett: Cut out sleep and potty breaks
Georgette Whitfield: rofl
Torley Linden: http://www.lifehack.org/articles/author/torley
Georgette Whitfield: Oh thanks
Torley Linden: you're welcome
Torley Linden: you'll see mentions of SL in there, but outside of Second Life, i'm a blogger, hehe
Torley Linden: Cube, which one are you referring to?
Qie Niangao: (btw, llSetClickAction() is relatively new, too, which kinda held back on some uses before, that were state-dependent)
Holocluck Henly has to check the FF addons later
Cube Republic: lifehack is a new one to me
Torley Linden: Lifehack is one of the 100 blogs on tha Intarnetz =)
Torley Linden: i'm hoping to contribute to some other notable ones (this is outside of my job @ LL)
ColeMarie Soleil: Does anyone even USE livejournal anymore?
Dizzy Banjo: oh btw Torley, you will be glad to know that I have become.. wait for it... a "sidey".. yes i now use the windows taskbar, set to side on the right of a 3 monitor setup, set to autohide and about 300 pixels wide with lots of quicklaunches on it
Torley Linden: i have all these ideas piling up and i'm like "GOOD GOSH THEY NEED A HOME"
Georgette Whitfield: I used to have an LJ Cole
Torley Linden: Cole, yes, i have seen a number of Resis use it
Cube Republic: for tech news i always recoment bit-tech.net
Georgette Whitfield: But I stopped updating in like 2005
Holocluck Henly: I never used livejournal lol did I miss out on something?
Torley Linden: hahahaha Dizzy, OH NICE! hey, quick question, how do you have a 3-monitor setup? two graphics cards with 2 DVI ports each or something else?
Dizzy Banjo: i use a Matrox Tripleheadtogo
ColeMarie Soleil: It's magic.
Cube Republic: prefers coles answer
Georgette Whitfield: I used to be an LJ addict
Cube Republic: lol
ColeMarie Soleil: AHAHAH
ColeMarie Soleil: YAY!
Georgette Whitfield: Then I found SL
Georgette Whitfield: Yay!
Dizzy Banjo: which converts the signal to 3 monitor outs, and fools the PC into thinking its one huge screen
Holocluck Henly: And you've sworn off writing?
Torley Linden: ahhh kewl Dizzy!
Torley Linden: that is neat.
Dizzy Banjo: ill get the link
Georgette Whitfield: My writing was never very exciting lol
Holocluck Henly: oh I dont know abouzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Bau Ur: :( Torley gone?
Georgette Whitfield: lol
Torley Linden: still here!
Bau Ur: oh there she is.
Georgette Whitfield: It is good for fanfic and stuff like that though LJ
Dizzy Banjo: http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/products/gxm/th2go/
Georgette Whitfield: Nerd central lol
Torley Linden: thankya Dizzy
Bau Ur: Torley, is office hours the time that you accept invitatons and photos and notecards and stuff?
Dizzy Banjo: its absolutely awesome for gaming and 3d, you can run stuff in "surround"
Torley Linden: Bau, sure! or anytime really, but i prefer weblinks and media because it's more convenient to sort, e.g., notecards are painful compared to my email box where i can tag and filter and reply faster :)
Fay Tal: bear request ^_^
Holocluck Henly: Let's see I started with blogger when it was new, then grey matter, then stopped, then yahoo360 then myspace, now back to blogger (they took away features then brought them back)
Torley Linden: and also because i'm heavy on Flickr photo-sharing since it's more of a social dynamic
Torley Linden: OH SURE FAY one sec
ColeMarie Soleil: YAY!
ColeMarie Soleil: flickr
Fay Tal accepted your inventory offer.
Bau Ur: I don't know how to do those things :(
Fay Tal accepted your inventory offer.
Holocluck Henly: ooo a bear :) please?
ColeMarie Soleil has a problem
Bau Ur: I will try to learn
Holocluck Henly accepted your inventory offer.
Holocluck Henly accepted your inventory offer.
Holocluck Henly: yuh oh
Holocluck Henly: I have PG property
Holocluck Henly: lol
Torley Linden: i can teach you, Bau. you already know about email :) so, here's an example... http://torley.com/send-enhanced-postcards-to-flickr-with-slbuzz
Torley Linden: there are over 650,000+ snapshots on Flickr tagged with "secondlife"
Torley Linden: that is pretty awesome, it won't be long until there's a million!
Dizzy Banjo: i thought Torley was gonna mention milkshake there for a moment !.. I can teach you..etc.. lol
Holocluck Henly: I havent tried snapzilla. it looks like ot takes them right from the viewer?
Torley Linden: notecards are best given to me when i'm actually here, most of the time i don't get to read them -- thanks Bau *has a look right now*
Georgette Whitfield: lol
Bau Ur: ah=HAH! Saved again by a Torley tutorial (lol) Thanks!
2B Aeon: bye now have to go Flicker;)
Holocluck Henly wears a T shirt he made thanks to Torley's tutorial. sheesh it was THAT easy?
Torley Linden: Holocluck, the key with these is: send a postcard from inworld to an external email address, which processes them.
Torley Linden: oooh fun, thanks for using my textures on that, very nice. i like the design. antigrav too!
Holocluck Henly: ahh interesting torley - I'm a ham I should flaunt my views
Torley Linden: Holocluck, i gotta say, i like your profile picture, that's GREAT. :D
Torley Linden: 3D glasses and you're at the Federation HQ? :)
Qie Niangao: (btw, lots of reports of lag and problems with the new RC, on the forums. Some confusion though still, whether it's the RC or the new server deploy, for the rezzing lag)
Holocluck Henly: Thanks :) I see you also have one of those booths. How perfect it was taken right near starfleet HQ
Rock Pond Pose ball: llStopAnimation: Script trying to stop animations but agent not found
Holocluck Henly: gmta yes
Torley Linden: i've seen every episode of Star Trek and all the movies EXCEPT for Enterprise, i stopped watching that mid-season
Holocluck Henly: andyes i like to see in 3D in 3D
Torley Linden: Qie, thanks, you're a great summarizer
Bau Ur: alas, why?
Heiliger Barbosa: oh my god :D->-< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdTdoHqTy-I
Torley Linden: why to what, Bau?
Holocluck Henly: you were generous I stopped after a couple of episodes and came to see the end with fat riker
Bau Ur: why stop watching Enterprise?
Holocluck Henly cough blasphemy
Torley Linden: oh, i didn't particularly care for it... it got better after Manny Coto became showrunner, i think
Torley Linden: i did see the finale, Holocluck
Bau Ur: ah. It's lameness. good reaosn, theoretically, though it never stopped me:)
Torley Linden: hahaha
Torley Linden: i used to moderate Star Trek forums
ColeMarie Soleil: hahaha No shit?
Georgette Whitfield: Yay Torley Trekkie
Holocluck Henly: I'd rather see a corny first series than see anything enterprise
ColeMarie Soleil: hahahaha <- trekkie
Cube Republic: ive been inspired by holos 3D glasses
Torley Linden: and trance/techno music ones too :) my geek roots run deep
ColeMarie Soleil: *stabs my brain*
Georgette Whitfield: Ooops not allowed to call them trekkies now
Holocluck Henly: movietickets.com island :)
Bau Ur: :)
Holocluck Henly: they got them free
Torley Linden: i have so many funny n00b stories of when i first joined a community though
Cube Republic: to change something im working on :)
Georgette Whitfield: What is the PC term again?
ColeMarie Soleil: hahahah
Bau Ur: *hugs to all geeks in the room*
Holocluck Henly: seven wears them too - excuse me: sevhen
Torley Linden: i remember BBSing and people kept saying "pretty hate machine" and i was like "what the heck!"
Torley Linden: mmmm geekdom
Cube Republic: i had a pair ages ago
Heiliger Barbosa: i have to go ... adios amigos :)
Torley Linden: that's where i learned out about Nine Inch Nails and i ended up helping with an industrial music BBS for a bit
Holocluck Henly: later Heiliger
ColeMarie Soleil: compermiso lol adios lol
Mark Barrett: I have Halo 1 - 10! :D
Bau Ur: NIN yay!!
Heiliger Barbosa: :p
Cube Republic: i saw NIN on holiday in denver for my birthday
ColeMarie Soleil: mmmmm NIN
ColeMarie Soleil: love trent
Holocluck Henly: btw torley i dont remember where I saw you playing synth rifs on piano but that video blew me away lol
ColeMarie Soleil gush
Torley Linden: there's a meme going around right now, NINE INCH FAIL showing BSOD behind Trent & friends
Torley Linden: thanks Holocluck!
Bau Ur: Trent Reznor is proof that great rock musicians do NOT lose their edge when they sober up
Bau Ur: and grow up a certain amount
Jaymes Kjeller: I also like NIN. It's one of my favorite bands.
ColeMarie Soleil: THANK YOU
ColeMarie Soleil: that's what Im sayin
Cube Republic: only get more bitter with the narative
Cube Republic: lol
lisa Wirefly: hi torley
Torley Linden: i like how Trent's continued to be innovative, for sure... with his recent means of music delivery too
Torley Linden: i REALLY liked how Just Like You Imagined was used for 300
Torley Linden: the trailer, anyway
Dizzy Banjo: hey folks, a little nugget : if you need a good book and like stuff like SnowCrash , try "Halting State" by Charles Stross. I've just started it, its great.
Bau Ur: yeah
Torley Linden: that cracked me up... "THIS... IS... SPARTA"
Cube Republic: i love that film
Torley Linden: i haven't yet read any Stross but he keeps coming highly recommended
ColeMarie Soleil: I still like griefzilla
Holocluck Henly: and whats that about Torley -- this seems to be an SL thing - going nuts with the sparta guy
Fay Tal: i wonder if you can store music in water melons, like an ipod like water melon :P
ColeMarie Soleil: AHAHAHA I haz spartan armor from catnip
Torley Linden: Holocluck, yes, part of a bigger meme i think, now that one didn't originate in SL...
Holocluck Henly: did someone do some performance art here that just stuck in their heads?
Torley Linden: mmmm Fay, well there's a new neon green and pink iPod Nano
Holocluck Henly: EEP
Holocluck Henly: lol
Cube Republic: lets hope theres not a i-ran in the pipelines
Cube Republic: lol
ColeMarie Soleil: OMG
ColeMarie Soleil: 9volt
Torley Linden: haha Cube, did you see the SNL parody of that?
Torley Linden: with the i-Raq?
ColeMarie Soleil: you adhere to the robot code
Cube Republic: yup
Torley Linden: HAHAHAHAHA
Holocluck Henly: heh
Cube Republic: the i-raq
ColeMarie Soleil: \m/ hahahah
ColeMarie Soleil: oh lord
Torley Linden: that made me laugh SOOOO much
9Volt Electricteeth: lol yeah, it's very important to me
Cube Republic: you should search cia facebook
Cube Republic: thats quite funny
ColeMarie Soleil: :D hahahaha *claps*
Torley Linden: Electricteeth, isn't that a Muppets reference?
Cube Republic: on youtube
9Volt Electricteeth: hm...one of those muppets had teeth in his name I think...the piano one
Torley Linden: i visit dozens of funny/viral sites and i like to share what's going on
ColeMarie Soleil: I dont think its from there no
Cube Republic: this is amazing..
Cube Republic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGxBizeiL3s
Holocluck Henly: eep when you said viral SL went black
Torley Linden: :O
ColeMarie Soleil: Haz anyone had MAJOR issues with the new release or is just me?
Torley Linden: Cole, which one? RC 1.21?
ColeMarie Soleil: I'm having SERIOUSLY unworkable issues
Holocluck Henly: I loved it so much i dropped back down to 1.19
Torley Linden: i've had some nasty crashes in the RC1 reveision, but i'm on RC2 now
ColeMarie Soleil: whatever the most recent one is
ColeMarie Soleil: checked it last night
Cube Republic: i have cole
Torley Linden: i haven't had bad pains with 1.20 main viewer
Cube Republic: crashes me on cam
ColeMarie Soleil: dude it wont even rez full sims
ColeMarie Soleil: half the people dont load
ColeMarie Soleil: everythings all MAD fucked up
Holocluck Henly: I couldnt handle how it melted sculpties and a fireworks event was the last straw with 1.21... and 1.20 the camera view shuddered.
ColeMarie Soleil: I just wont OMG and closed it
Cube Republic: the prim drifting bug is my pet hat on sl, its driving me nuts
ColeMarie Soleil: lol
ColeMarie Soleil: gotta love drifting prims
ColeMarie Soleil: YAY!
ColeMarie Soleil: specially when you have a script in them and then they just vanish
Holocluck Henly: how about the sculptie thing in RC2
ColeMarie Soleil: and you're all HAI where did my prim go?
Cube Republic: ive had that too
ColeMarie Soleil: =/ mhm
Cube Republic: vanishing prims
Cube Republic: lol
ColeMarie Soleil: omg roboto morphiong
ColeMarie Soleil: YAY!
Dizzy Banjo: i like alot of the new functionality ideas in 1.21
9Volt Electricteeth: hahaha
Dizzy Banjo: messaging colouring etc
Cube Republic: isnt there a new click sound in 1.21?
Cube Republic: :P
ColeMarie Soleil: and my font is blue
ColeMarie Soleil: thats minor but
ColeMarie Soleil: it annoys the crap out of me
Cube Republic: i like it
Holocluck Henly: oh cole you can configure that in prefs
Cube Republic: can keep track better
ColeMarie Soleil: nuuuuu I fail
Holocluck Henly: make it look the way you had it
ColeMarie Soleil: thank you
ColeMarie Soleil: :O
Torley Linden: I SEE CHAT HAS GONE CRAZY! WOOT! =D
Dizzy Banjo: hey btw, there are some "knock" collision sounds in Spore that are suspiciously similar to prim collision sounds.. lol
Holocluck Henly: the dark colors while I had 1.21 I changed immediately
Torley Linden: haha i changed my chat to GREEN
ColeMarie Soleil: I noticed that I thought it was just me
Torley Linden: i saw an episode of the Tim & Eric Awesome Show, and i swear they used the exact Second Life teleport sound effect for a scene transition
Cube Republic: orange colour increases oxygen flow to brain
Dizzy Banjo: lol
Cube Republic: just thought id drop that in
ColeMarie Soleil: I work in black rooms
Torley Linden: red color makes people think you are faster and more dangerous
ColeMarie Soleil: I dunno if thats such a good idear :D
Torley Linden: funny what meanings colors are associated with
9Volt Electricteeth: haha'
Cube Republic: yeah i read that last week
Holocluck Henly: it's traditional mIRC alert color
Georgette Whitfield: I like purple what does that mean?
ColeMarie Soleil: sometimes Ill turn it white just to be mean to myself
ColeMarie Soleil: hahaha
Cube Republic: its more a chemical reaction than association i believe
Torley Linden: i laugh whenever i see someone else using green + pink — laugh WITH them, of course
ColeMarie Soleil: hahahahah
Torley Linden: Cube, and some of it is based on science, e.g., wavelengths
Cube Republic: for sure
Dizzy Banjo: colour related nugget : check out Michael Torke's Ecstatic Collection suite, Red music, Green Music.. Orange is particularly amazing
Torley Linden: i've seen a number of faux-80s bands, e.g., people making new music that sounds like it came from the 80s...and they use green + pink
ColeMarie Soleil: AHAHAHAHAHAH you and your nuggests
Torley Linden: *makes a note to check that out* it sounds like a fab name
Dizzy Banjo: lol
ColeMarie Soleil: goes well with... some awesomesauce
ColeMarie Soleil: and ...
ColeMarie Soleil: twatwaffles
lisa Wirefly: =(
Dizzy Banjo: lol coley
Georgette Whitfield: lol
ColeMarie Soleil: *claps hands over mouth and shuts it*
Holocluck Henly: well that was subtle and for mixed company
Georgette Whitfield: Cole said a bad word nanananana
Cube Republic: i love the word faux especially if someone has faux all stars....faux-cons
Dizzy Banjo check if sim is mature, thankfully is for coleys sake
ColeMarie Soleil: It wasn't a bad word :O
Georgette Whitfield: lol
Holocluck Henly: in your culture *rolls eyes
Torley Linden: it's okay, to a degree anyway, this is a Mature region, and i count on intent more than just the words myself. i'd rather swear with a friend than be double-faced to someone (e.g., fake politeness). ;)
ColeMarie Soleil: It was a colorfully expressed morning snack
Torley Linden: but the Community Standards take precedence
Georgette Whitfield: Ahahaha
Torley Linden: so yeah, technically someone could be nekkid here...
ColeMarie Soleil: yup
Torley Linden: how many other Linden regions can you say that for ;)
Georgette Whitfield: WooT WooT
Holocluck Henly: mature means knowing restraint and respect for diversity. it's usually the immature who cant control themselves.
Torley Linden: NOT that i am saying to do that
Cube Republic: torleys love in
Cube Republic: lol
Torley Linden: but... it could... happen <.<
Mark Barrett: oops. the chat bar doesn't allow for cursor and home keys
ColeMarie Soleil: and its also immature to force your opinions on others :D
Georgette Whitfield: LOL Cole
Dizzy Banjo: Torke is a wild composer, its like jumping out of an aeroplane hearing his stuff
Holocluck Henly: on me?
Georgette Whitfield: I like that Torley's love-in
Torley Linden: *waits for the inevitable, where my wife says "THERE'S NEKKID PEOPLE ON HERE"!*
Dizzy Banjo: hahaha
ColeMarie Soleil: wheres raven?
ColeMarie Soleil: Ill get nekkid
Torley Linden: aw thanks Dizzy, it's definitely part of my incremental creative process and having so many disparate ideas i strive to make cohesive
Cube Republic: is the word avatar really sanscript
Georgette Whitfield: Yes please ask your lovely wife to come along to one of these sessions
Cube Republic: i was told that from a krisna dood last night
Georgette Whitfield: I'd love to mee here
ColeMarie Soleil: Yuuuuuuuus! PLLLLEASSSSE
Georgette Whitfield: *meet her
Torley Linden: speaking of my wife, it's past the hour and i've gotta say to her before continuing work! she's been here on occasion before Georgette, and i'll ask her if she wants to be here next time. she's shy! =) your requests help tho. :D
Torley Linden: so i'm going to go for now... and thanks SO much for being here with me,
Torley Linden: hanging out and chatting for my office hour!
ColeMarie Soleil: YAY!
Georgette Whitfield: Awww we wuv anyone who wuvs Torley!
Cube Republic: aparently its sanscript for 'project' i think
Georgette Whitfield: Bye
Fay Tal: ^_^
Dizzy Banjo: bai !
ColeMarie Soleil: bai roboto
Jaymes Kjeller: See you, Torley!
Holocluck Henly: ty much torley :) maybe next time i got thursday off i can visit LOL
Aimee Trescothick: :) bye
Cube Republic: thanks torley cool chat
Mayumi Fride: bye
lisa Wirefly: BYE
Fay Tal: friendly farewells :)
Georgette Whitfield: hehehe
Torley Linden: sorry lisa i don't exchange friendships on this account but send one to my alt, Torley Olmstead...
Torley Linden: take care each and everyone! FRIENDLY GBYE!!! :D