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= Agenda =
= Agenda =
== Updates ==
* Introducing Log Linden
** Log is working on the backend -> sim asset delivery system
** enhanced HTTP methods
** coming to ADITI soon.
* Good news from Maestro
** Andrew has a fix for the bug that's blocking threaded object rez
** we're planning to throw it into next week's iteration of the maint-server branch
* Linden Homes broken doors/encroachment bug.
* Main Channel
** Viewer Metrics project from LeTigre.
*** https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Parcel_encroachment
** http://blogs.secondlife.com/community/technology/release/blog/2011/01/31/deploys-for-the-week-of-2011-01-31
* Magnum
** Maint Server + encroachment bug fixes.
*** https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Beta/Magnum
*** https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_RC_Magnum/11
* LeTigre
** Display Names fixes
*** https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Beta/LeTigre
*** https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_RC_LeTigre/11
** llGetDisplayName returns nothing if the resident has not chosen a new name
** llGetDisplayName failed intermittently
* Blue Steel
** Simons Interest List project r + encroachment bug fixes.
*** https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Beta/BlueSteel
*** https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_RC_BlueSteel/11
** let there be fireworks
* XMPP
* User Groups or Office Hours?


= Transcript =
= Transcript =
Transcript of [[User:Oskar_Linden|Oskar Linden]]'s Beta Server Office Hour for February 2nd, 2011:
Transcript of [[User:Oskar_Linden|Oskar Linden]]'s Beta Server Office Hour for February 2nd, 2011:
* [15:00] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  were u cloned mr mamoth:)
* [15:02] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  happy Thursday everybody
* [15:02] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  likewise
* [15:02] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  we'll wait a few minutes and see who else shows up
* [15:02] [[User:RedMokum Bravin|RedMokum Bravin]]:  And happy (Chinese) New Year of the Rabbit :-)
* [15:02] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  next year is my year :-)
* [15:02] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  happy new rabbit year:)
* [15:02] [[User:Lares Carter|Lares Carter]]:  Oskar, will you upload the logs of the last two office hours to the wiki?
* [15:02] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  bringing back the dragon
* [15:02] [[User:Homeless: I|Homeless: I]]:  have a question while we're waiting
* [15:03] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  I will Lares
* [15:03] [[User:Lares Carter|Lares Carter]]:  cool, thanks!
* [15:03] [[User:RedMokum Bravin|RedMokum Bravin]]:  Ah... the Dragon is a happy sign.
* [15:03] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  I'll explain if you give me a chance
* [15:03] [[User:Homeless: If|Homeless: If]]:  I drop a physical rubber sphere 100 meters down, how high should it bounce?
* [15:03] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  rubber means nothing really
* [15:03] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  changes some friction
* [15:04] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  maybe the sound
* [15:04] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  doesn't depend on what u drop it on?
* [15:04] [[User:RedMokum Bravin|RedMokum Bravin]]:  Rubber mostly changes the sound, yes.
* [15:04] [[User:Homeless: it|Homeless: it]]:  used to bounce, now it doesn't
* [15:04] [[User:Homeless: the|Homeless: the]]:  ground
* [15:04] [[User:RedMokum Bravin|RedMokum Bravin]]:  Everything used to bounce really.
* [15:05] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  so we might as well get started
* [15:05] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  light crowd today
* [15:05] [[User:Homeless: I|Homeless: I]]:  used to be able to sit on a sphere, raise it to 4000 meters, close edit window and go for a bouncyy ride when it hit ground
* [15:05] [[User:RedMokum Bravin|RedMokum Bravin]]:  Did nobody give a shout on channel?
* [15:05] [[User:Homeless: now|Homeless: now]]:  it just lands
* [15:05] [[User:Homeless: is|Homeless: is]]:  that correct?
* [15:05] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  so here is the agenda
* [15:05] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Beta_Server_Office_Hours
* [15:06] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  first order of business is introducing Log Linden
* [15:06] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  rubber that doesn't bounce? that sounds wrong
* [15:06] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  Log who are you and what do you do?
* [15:06] [[User:Log Linden|Log Linden]]:  Let's see, I'm a software engineer at Linden Lab
* [15:07] [[User:Log Linden|Log Linden]]:  I'm working on asset delivery improvements in the simulator
* [15:07] [[User:RedMokum Bravin|RedMokum Bravin]]:  That sounds pretty important.
* [15:07] [[User:Melvin Starbrook|Melvin Starbrook]]:  im stuck..
* [15:08] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  hi log. btw were u brought back by the miracles of modern cloning:)
* [15:08] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  hmm
* [15:08] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  log lag lol
* [15:08] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  any details you can share Log?
* [15:08] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  weird I was here 5 mins ago and not a sole
* [15:08] [[User:Log Linden|Log Linden]]:  heh, rex, mostly computers
* [15:08] [[User:Melvin Starbrook|Melvin Starbrook]]:  trying out the new firestorm..maybe thats why im stuck kol
* [15:08] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  the more details you ahve the happier these guys are
* [15:08] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  very likely that u will receive lots of love from people that have inventory problems
* [15:09] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  anything short of server source code will be fine by me :-D
* [15:09] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  Log, asset delivery from backend to sim, or from sim to the viewers?
* [15:09] [[User:Log Linden|Log Linden]]:  backend to sim
* [15:09] [[User:Identity Euler|Identity Euler]]:  wb Homeless
* [15:09] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  swithing to http there too?
* [15:09] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  oddly, sim to backend has been http for a long time
* [15:09] [[User:Log Linden|Log Linden]]:  That's already http, we're just improving the way to do it
* [15:09] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  we're just cranking up the rates a bit
* [15:10] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  cool
* [15:10] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  and it's coming to Aditi....
* [15:10] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  rate cranking?
* [15:10] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  when is it coming to aditi?
* [15:10] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  we hit code complete
* [15:10] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  today
* [15:10] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  i wish all asset downloads were http, but only sim -> viewer assets that are switched over are textures
* [15:10] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  for the first phase
* [15:10] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  QA soak and then Aditi
* [15:10] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  We're hoping sims that have a history of
* [15:11] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  high download queue numbers will get
* [15:11] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  an improvement from this.
* [15:11] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  Combats sims
* [15:11] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  etc.
* [15:11] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  so log, did u alread jump head first in to code to see why asset delivery is so cranky?
* [15:11] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  So we're looking for volunteers
* [15:11] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  Monty, it happens on all sims occasionally
* [15:11] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  yeah but we have a few that break 1000 and approach 10000
* [15:12] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  hope there will not me more gosted prims than before
* [15:12] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  But the benefits are everyone's
* [15:12] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  Monty can you outline exactly what kind of sims you're hoping will volunteer
* [15:12] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  I don't have a concrete description, at least not yet.
* [15:13] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  ok, we can work on that offline again. maybe send out a mail to the list
* [15:13] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  high usage of non-texture assets (clothing, sound, gestures, animations).
* [15:13] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  high TP occurrences resulting in additional load
* [15:13] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  meshes ?
* [15:14] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  meshes should be unaffected by this
* [15:14] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  either way
* [15:14] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  cool. glad to hear about those changes
* [15:14] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  and welcome to Log
* [15:14] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  Log says he'll be attending more of these meetings
* [15:14] [[User:Eddi Decosta|Eddi Decosta]]:  HEYA
* [15:14] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  Monty told him to
* [15:14] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  welcome tot he madhouse Log
* [15:14] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  :-)
* [15:14] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  :)
* [15:14] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  It probably won't be compressed region crossings but
* [15:15] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  it should be an incremental change in the right direction
* [15:15] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  let's get some graphs :-D
* [15:15] [[User:Eddi Decosta|Eddi Decosta]]:  loll log
* [15:15] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  so let's see what's next
* [15:15] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  Maestro says he has some good news
* [15:15] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  that teleport graph needs framing
* [15:15] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  Maestro?
* [15:15] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  success story at last
* [15:16] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  (before the big megaprim deletion disaster of 2011) :P
* [15:16] [[User:Eddi Decosta|Eddi Decosta]]:  hi Oskar
* [15:16] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  hi Eddi
* [15:16] [[User:Melvin Starbrook|Melvin Starbrook]]:  ah its true....
* [15:17] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  Maestro?
* [15:17] [[User:Melvin Starbrook|Melvin Starbrook]]:  some mega prims were gone... they were deleted?
* [15:17] [[User:Maestro Linden|Maestro Linden]]:  oops sorry
* [15:17] [[User:Maestro Linden|Maestro Linden]]:  had chat in another window
* [15:17] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  yes, what happened to megaprims ?
* [15:17] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  we're waiting on Maestro to tell us his good news
* [15:17] [[User:Maestro Linden|Maestro Linden]]:  *ahem*
* [15:17] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  lol
* [15:17] [[User:Oskars Drag|Oskars Drag]]:  Kart 1.2: You aren't the owner
* [15:17] [[User:Maestro Linden|Maestro Linden]]:  so, Andrew has fixed the bug that's blocking threaded object rez
* [15:17] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  this is good news
* [15:18] [[User:Maestro Linden|Maestro Linden]]:  and we're planning to throw it into next week's iteration of the maint-server branch
* [15:18] [[User:Maestro Linden|Maestro Linden]]:  (which is currently on... Magum)
* [15:18] [[User:Maestro Linden|Maestro Linden]]:  with threaded rez enabled
* [15:18] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  The Return of T-Rez
* [15:18] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  what r threaded objects?
* [15:18] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  yarn
* [15:18] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  quilts
* [15:18] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  sweaters
* [15:18] [[User:RedMokum Bravin|RedMokum Bravin]]:  haha
* [15:18] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  bolts
* [15:18] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  no kidding:)
* [15:19] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  blasted knitters
* [15:19] [[User:Maestro Linden|Maestro Linden]]:  it's faster rezzing
* [15:19] [[User:Maestro Linden|Maestro Linden]]:  with less sim lag
* [15:19] [[User:Homeless: real|Homeless: real]]:  life cloth in sl!
* [15:19] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  Monty you want to tackle a description of threads?
* [15:19] [[User:4 Wheeler|4 Wheeler]]:  You aren't the owner
* [15:19] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  so how many threaded sweaters can your servers support:)
* [15:19] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  less grey goo fencing?
* [15:19] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  haha
* [15:19] [[User:Monty LindenMonty|Monty LindenMonty]]:  Linden is mostly angered by threads
* [15:19] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  seriously
* [15:19] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  the concept of Threads in operating systems and software development is probably better researched on wikipedia or something
* [15:19] [[User:Maestro Linden|Maestro Linden]]:  no, you'll hit the grey goo fence even quicker if you try to rez above the limit
* [15:20] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  we push some deferrable rezzing work into a thread
* [15:20] [[User:Maestro Linden|Maestro Linden]]:  if you're trying to rez continuously like that...
* [15:20] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  the basic idea is parallel code instead of sequential
* [15:20] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  rezzing objects have three states then: not existing, in trasition, rezzed
* [15:20] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  I have urged Simon to take into account de-rezzing too, they cause big sim freezes too. So far I have not managed to convice him it was needed.
* [15:20] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  and by squeezing the middle time is saved
* [15:20] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  and a 4 one: gosted
* [15:21] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  i am aware what threads r. the thing is that the viewer doesn't tell u if the objects u rez r threaded or not
* [15:21] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  ghosted is a special case for SL name 'avro'
* [15:21] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  <_<
* [15:21] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  am beside
* [15:21] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  alright so, next up
* [15:21] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  none of the viewer's business (threads)
* [15:22] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  the LInden Homes broken door bug
* [15:22] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  No, what people call ghosted prims are prims that get removed from simulation, but not from the physics engine, so you end up bumping into invisible walls.
* [15:22] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  strictly internal state
* [15:22] [[User:Eddi Decosta|Eddi Decosta]]:  (eddi.decosta) is now known as Eddi Decosta.
* [15:22] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  isnt this one for LDPW?
* [15:22] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  oh right
* [15:22] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  while we're talking about ghosted prims
* [15:22] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  does anyone have a reliable repro for creating ghosted prims?
* [15:22] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  yeh I saw a few on BS sandbox the other week
* [15:23] [[User:Eddi Decosta|Eddi Decosta]]:  (eddi.decosta) is now known as Monster LagGroup.
* [15:23] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  no, dont' know when they occur, honest
* [15:23] [[User:Homeless: what|Homeless: what]]:  is a ghosted prim?
* [15:23] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  I've talked with Falcon about it
* [15:23] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  and he can't do a lot until he can see how they get made
* [15:23] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  Oskar, it seems to be the care when derez (talking to inventory server) takes a long time. There seem to be some timing issues when inventory db/asset server are slow to respond.
* [15:23] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  parcell changes seems to favour them, but not sure
* [15:23] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  if you guys can ask around and see if anyone knows a set of reliable repro steps for creating ghosted prims I can get Falcon to look at it
* [15:23] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  it's physical form exists on the simular
* [15:24] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  simulator* but not the prim
* [15:24] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  this will nobel price
* [15:24] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  lol
* [15:24] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  ok
* [15:24] [[User:Melvin Starbrook|Melvin Starbrook]]:  long time ago i did see them..
* [15:24] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  well back to the broken doors bug
* [15:24] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  I don't know if you can simulate conditions with asset server slowness, or inv db.
* [15:24] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  what's wrong with the doors?
* [15:24] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  the issue sounds humorous but actually was a pretty deep issue
* [15:24] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  linden homes are unique in how they use the sim
* [15:25] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  the root prim is off the users parcel but the entire home is on their parcel
* [15:25] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  so they can use full prim allotmens and still have a house
* [15:25] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  encroachment brought a bug though
* [15:25] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  haha
* [15:25] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  the bug overrode root prims parcel script settings
* [15:25] [[User:Master StarshipMaster|Master StarshipMaster]]:  Starship smiles
* [15:25] [[User:RedMokum Bravin|RedMokum Bravin]]:  people cleverly do the same with abandoned main land. so not that unique.
* [15:25] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  heh
* [15:25] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  and favored per prim parcel script settings
* [15:25] [[User:Master Starship|Master Starship]]:  so we can get rid of those lovely homes if we wish ;)
* [15:26] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  so perhaps sim flag to allow scripts not to break?
* [15:26] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  Oskar, interesting
* [15:26] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  so scripts in child prims in linden homes were not able to be used
* [15:26] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  it was interesting
* [15:26] [[User:Homeless: they|Homeless: they]]:  put a lot of house makers out of business
* [15:26] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  well, am hapy of having a free land, but not the house on it, lol
* [15:26] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  and it affected a lot more than just linden homes for sure
* [15:26] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  i thought most ppl just TP in
* [15:26] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  people whose scripts were set to everyone would still work of course
* [15:26] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  do they really need a door?
* [15:26] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  lol
* [15:26] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  so it was tricky to deduce
* [15:27] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  it was more than doors it was everything scripted in the house
* [15:27] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  ah
* [15:27] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  but that's what we heard "my doors are broke"
* [15:27] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  I thought these scripts where http
* [15:27] [[User:Master Starship|Master Starship]]:  the thing most people use
* [15:27] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  the issue was pretty widespread but we got a fix into two of the RC's
* [15:27] [[User:RedMokum Bravin|RedMokum Bravin]]:  Master: that would be "my sexbed is broken"
* [15:27] [[User:Master Starship|Master Starship]]:  Who gave you your sexbed is broken ?
* [15:27] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  if u let people rez their own doors...
* [15:27] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  and moved most of the linden homes to those spares
* [15:27] [[User:RedMokum Bravin|RedMokum Bravin]]:  Love the sync
* [15:28] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  we put it into two rc's so that it would for sure go out next week.
* [15:28] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  it was either that or rollback
* [15:28] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  and I like this approach better
* [15:28] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  so if you've noticed weridness in that regard now you know the issue
* [15:28] [[User:Maestro Linden|Maestro Linden]]:  There's a separate issue with Linden Homes as well
* [15:29] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  I never notice those, my whole sim is one parcel
* [15:29] [[User:Maestro Linden|Maestro Linden]]:  which is distinct from the 'broken doors' bug
* [15:29] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  yeah the LH houses do some weird stuff
* [15:29] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  we're working on that too
* [15:29] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  or rather the land team is
* [15:29] [[User:Maestro Linden|Maestro Linden]]:  there are some connectivity issues between the LSL scripts in certain homes and the control panel in the website
* [15:29] [[User:Maestro Linden|Maestro Linden]]:  we're still investigating that bug
* [15:29] [[User:Maestro Linden|Maestro Linden]]:  or rather the land team is
* [15:30] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  besides that the releases this week went fairly well
* [15:30] [[User:Monty LindenMonty|Monty LindenMonty]]:  Linden suggests that the website code get a code review
* [15:30] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  the megaprimloss issue was not related to any server deploys
* [15:30] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  and that is provides more options to these LHs
* [15:30] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  just a matter of poor timing
* [15:31] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  I'm always pretty open with you guys about causes and technical details but on this issue it wasn't my call so I don''t have much more I can divulge
* [15:31] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  it was unintentional and unrelated to server rolls
* [15:31] [[User:Homeless: I'll|Homeless: I'll]]:  be glad when the 64m limit is live... will be able to get rid of megaprims
* [15:31] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  individual cases can request a rollback if sims are affected.
* [15:31] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  seems that the lost megaprims, when no copy, where not going to "lost and found" according t post, rigt ?
* [15:32] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  so there's a clamp down on mp usage?
* [15:32] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  there is no clampdown on MP usage
* [15:32] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  it was an accident
* [15:32] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  k
* [15:32] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  not intentional and not a bug
* [15:32] [[User:Melvin Starbrook|Melvin Starbrook]]:  oh was a mistake only?
* [15:32] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  red button hit cauz lag, lol
* [15:32] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  we support megaprims by default and will probably continue to do so
* [15:33] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  it would be nice to make objects over 10m
* [15:33] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  though
* [15:33] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  we've got a few things in RC this week
* [15:33] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  there is a display names fix
* [15:33] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  the interest list code
* [15:33] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  and maintserver fixes
* [15:33] [[User:Jonathan Yap|Jonathan Yap]]:  It would be nice if the sim sent a message to the viewer on what max size prim is supported
* [15:34] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  next week the ilist code will probably get pushed to the main grid
* [15:34] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  in a way is good that it was just an accident, otherwise it would have meant the megas were gone
* [15:34] [[User:Melvin Starbrook|Melvin Starbrook]]:  the platform i had was deleted lol
* [15:34] [[User:Melvin Starbrook|Melvin Starbrook]]:  was weird when tp-ing home lol
* [15:34] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  wich fixes, if not too complicated to explain Oskar ?
* [15:34] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  for which?
* [15:34] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  for next RC
* [15:35] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  well next weeks RC's will have the display names one that is already out there
* [15:35] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  the maintserver we have + theT-Rez fix
* [15:35] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  what you said at 15 : 33, mainserver fixes
* [15:35] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  maint server now has SVC-6678[c]: Changing Regions Very fast Causes "No Valid Agent ID"
* [15:35] [[User:JIRA-helper: http//jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-6678|JIRA-helper: http//jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-6678]]:
* [#SVC-6678] [[User:Changing Regions|Changing Regions]]:  Very fast Causes " No Valid Agent ID "
* [15:35] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  and SVC-6723[c]: Scripted and linked objects not behaving properly when crossing parcel boundaries
* [15:35] [[User:JIRA-helper: http//jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-6723|JIRA-helper: http//jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-6723]]:
* [#SVC-6723] [[User:Scripted and|Scripted and]]:  linked objects not behaving properly when crossing parcel boundaries
* [15:36] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  nice having fixed these
* [15:36] [[User:Maestro Linden|Maestro Linden]]:  maint-server has some misc sim crasher fixes as well
* [15:36] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  and misc crash fixers :-p
* [15:36] [[User:Maestro Linden|Maestro Linden]]:  nothing important :)
* [15:36] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  :-)
* [15:36] [[User:RedMokum Bravin|RedMokum Bravin]]:  "very fast" erm.... it occurs when you are simply flying into another region as an avatar.
* [15:36] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  slow down red
* [15:37] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  life is too short for fast tp's
* [15:37] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  or soemthing
* [15:37] [[User:Maestro Linden|Maestro Linden]]:  I've never been able to reproduce it with simple flying, personally.. but it's very easy to trigger if you sit on a scripted box that crosses 100x in 5 seconds
* [15:37] [[User:RedMokum Bravin|RedMokum Bravin]]:  I don't. I simply fly as an avatar with wings. Should I go on foot in the air? :-p
* [15:37] [[User:Flip Idlemind|Flip Idlemind]]:  Kelly Linden r here
* [15:37] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  get rid of friends too. you teleport faster when you don't have any friends.
* [15:37] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  what? what? what? what? what? what?
* [15:37] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  Kelly?
* [15:37] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  here?
* [15:37] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  now?
* [15:37] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  <_<
* [15:37] [[User:Kelly Linden|Kelly Linden]]:  where?
* [15:37] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  i've manged to generate this error by moving into 3 different region with a period of 1.5 seconds
* [15:37] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  >_>
* [15:37] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  wow
* [15:37] [[User:Melvin Starbrook|Melvin Starbrook]]:  wow
* [15:37] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  welcome back Kelly
* [15:37] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  easy, sit on a prim that you edit amove, you can change sims at fast rate
* [15:37] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  Hey tehKellz, welcome back :)
* [15:37] [[User:Kelly Linden|Kelly Linden]]:  thanks
* [15:37] [[User:RedMokum Bravin|RedMokum Bravin]]:  Kelly is alive! Yay!
* [15:38] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  what's new Kelly?
* [15:38] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  hello
* [15:38] [[User:Jonathan Yap|Jonathan Yap]]:  892 diapers
* [15:38] [[User:Kelly Linden|Kelly Linden]]:  just trying to get back into the swing of things.
* [15:38] [[User:Lares Carter|Lares Carter]]:  hi Kelly!
* [15:38] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  Kelly spent his break fixing every LSL issue and cocnern you have ever had and shipped it 5 minutes ago
* [15:38] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  right:)
* [15:38] [[User:Kelly Linden|Kelly Linden]]:  yup, if there are any more problems they are now Oskars fault.
* [15:38] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  Oskar c# scripting too? ;)
* [15:38] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  prolog :)
* [15:39] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  go already for F# lol
* [15:39] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  QA is only at fault for not finding developers faults in time
* [15:40] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  part of benefits could go to hire some
* [15:40] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  they hide those well. very skilled that way ;)
* [15:41] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  so what is your plan for the rest of this quarter kelly?
* [15:41] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  having plans to put raycats on RC ?
* [15:41] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  what magical things are you working on that will wow this crowd?
* [15:41] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  *raycast
* [15:41] [[User:Monty LindenMonty|Monty LindenMonty]]:  Linden wants raycats now
* [15:41] [[User:Homeless: raycats|Homeless: raycats]]:  sound fun
* [15:41] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  I like the sound of raycats
* [15:42] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  lol
* [15:42] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  haha. for a sec i thought was something new:)
* [15:42] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  does it purr?
* [15:42] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  "work on not being afk while people ask questions" ;)
* [15:43] [[User:Kelly Linden|Kelly Linden]]:  I've still got the mono version update that I just need to sync up and push through to release. After that I'm not really sure yet.
* [15:43] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  Log forgot to Log out
* [15:43] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  lol
* [15:43] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  that thing is tooo talkative
* [15:44] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  Log is being distracted by coworkers
* [15:44] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  I'm sure Kelly will pop by again when he has more to show
* [15:44] [[User:Flip Idlemind|Flip Idlemind]]:  Falcon Linden r here
* [15:44] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  you're welcome here whenever kelly
* [15:44] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  OMG a Falcon?
* [15:44] [[User:Log Linden|Log Linden]]:  I'm still reading
* [15:44] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  Meow Raycats Meow
* [15:44] [[User:Melvin Starbrook|Melvin Starbrook]]:  i was a linden graveyard today....
* [15:44] [[User:Melvin Starbrook|Melvin Starbrook]]:  at
* [15:44] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  There will be no "raycats" any more than there will be Lolcatz
* [15:44] [[User:Flip IdlemindFlip|Flip IdlemindFlip]]:  Idlemind <-- Official Linden Announcer :O
* [15:44] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  I want to be abundantly clear about that. :P
* [15:44] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  you've heard it here folks
* [15:44] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  lolcatz ?
* [15:44] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  no raycats
* [15:45] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  no long ones either?
* [15:45] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  he's so pushy ;)
* [15:45] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  Latif: yeah...I am that :)
* [15:45] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  too lagy ?
* [15:45] [[User:Flip Idlemind|Flip Idlemind]]:  I can haz raycast?
* [15:45] [[User:Monty LindenMonty|Monty LindenMonty]]:  Linden pwns assets, there will be raycats
* [15:45] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  FLIP: you can haz raycast. You can not haz raycats.
* [15:45] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  so what are you working onthese days falcon?
* [15:45] [[User:Flip Idlemind|Flip Idlemind]]:  Yayy
* [15:45] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  so funny what a little typo can do:)
* [15:46] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  Working on physics bugs, mesh asset verification, and a number of very cool things I can't tell you about.
* [15:46] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  linden bears gone of out fasion?
* [15:46] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  :)
* [15:46] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  sekrit projects
* [15:46] [[User:Melvin Starbrook|Melvin Starbrook]]:  i love linden bears :)
* [15:46] [[User:Flip Idlemind|Flip Idlemind]]:  Can you tell us about the things you can't tell us about?
* [15:46] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  absolutely.
* [15:46] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  Falcon is here , it is already a big progress, maybe next week he will say somthing
* [15:46] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  They are things.
* [15:46] [[User:Jonathan Yap|Jonathan Yap]]:  Adjustable gravity?
* [15:46] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  like "how to introduce most bugs that Oksar and QA will fail to find" ;)
* [15:47] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  yep!
* [15:47] [[User:Homeless: should|Homeless: should]]:  objects bounce when hitting the ground after falling great distances?
* [15:47] [[User:Eddi Decosta|Eddi Decosta]]:  heya falcon
* [15:47] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  Falcon is sneaky with his bugs
* [15:47] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  Jonathan adjustable gravity multipliers are already part of physics materials
* [15:47] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  well, this in simulator already
* [15:47] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  Homeless: depends on their restitution, eh?
* [15:47] [[User:Homeless: they|Homeless: they]]:  don't bounce as well as they used to
* [15:47] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  Monty is more accomodating and just leaves them out for the rest of us to find easily
* [15:47] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  so, what bounces on what?
* [15:47] [[User:Homeless: they|Homeless: they]]:  sort of go splat
* [15:48] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  There are two major behavioral bugs I'm looking at (or will be next week). The penetrating boxes and the weird oscillation behavior during some collisions
* [15:48] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  ah, you could repro it Falcon ?
* [15:48] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  the boxes yes. The oscillations I haven't tried recently but I did see at one point. If you have a good repro, it would be helpful
* [15:49] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  well, it is when edges attack first than face
* [15:49] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  they penetrate the prim
* [15:49] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  well,specify elsewhere
* [15:49] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  Right, but I once saw a nasty thing with some bowling pins that would never settle down
* [15:49] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  I assume that's the oscillation issue
* [15:50] [[User:Maestro Linden|Maestro Linden]]:  didn't the bowling pins have some unreasonable physics settings?
* [15:50] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  in a way, I like this specificity of SL physics, lol
* [15:50] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  the whole thing had unreasonable physics settings
* [15:50] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  smile: I have no idea what that means
* [15:51] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  (well, perpetual motion finaly discovered, nice !)
* [15:51] [[User:Maestro Linden|Maestro Linden]]:  the configurable options are nice
* [15:51] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  :)
* [15:51] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  so....
* [15:51] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  too bad it works only in VWs
* [15:52] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  by the way, regarding bouncing, remember that because the extra gap has been removed, bounces will appear different
* [15:53] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  dont' get the point Falcon, the bouncing should appear more natural , or not ?
* [15:54] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  nature has no place in SL :-)
* [15:54] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  just...different :P
* [15:54] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  an elastic collision takes place and how far is ball bouncing should depend on its velocity. right?
* [15:54] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  could see a bit of penetration, for example
* [15:54] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  in the 6 minutes left I have 2 things left to discuss
* [15:54] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  yes, penetration probably due to mesh sizes
* [15:54] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  perhaps falcon can stay longer to answer physics question s?
* [15:54] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  the collision is not perfectly elastic. Both objects have a restitution, the collision's restitution is the geometric mean of the two colliding restitutions
* [15:54] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  Sure. I'll wait.
* [15:55] [[User:Maestro Linden|Maestro Linden]]:  remember that the viewer extrapolates motion of objects, so you could see some fake penetration when an object hits the ground
* [15:55] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  XMPP is close to being ready for ADITI
* [15:55] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  I'm working with that team to define what that will look like and how you all can help
* [15:55] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  what's xmpp?
* [15:55] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  Ah, that is why I make bounce rubber on stone
* [15:55] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  I don't have a lot of info today
* [15:55] [[User:Jonathan Yap|Jonathan Yap]]:  xmpp = new group IM chat
* [15:55] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  but I'll loop you all in as I do
* [15:55] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  correct
* [15:55] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  didn't some peole already tried xmmp on this grid?
* [15:55] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  ahh right
* [15:55] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  I'll get someone here to answer your questions
* [15:55] [[User:Jonathan Yap|Jonathan Yap]]:  some are connected to the chat server
* [15:56] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  the LL server side has not been implemented
* [15:56] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  O/
* [15:56] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  I found kinda new viwer bug : message appears before name
* [15:56] [[User:Latif KhalifaLatif|Latif KhalifaLatif]]:  Khalifa is in Second Life Beta chat as we speak ;;)
* [15:56] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  but not our group?
* [15:56] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  the last thing I have to chat about is this new approach to office hours
* [15:56] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  u mean group meetings:)
* [15:56] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  Linden Lab is changing Office Hours to targetted User Groups
* [15:57] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  there are really no changes from how this meeting is set up
* [15:57] [[User:Melvin Starbrook|Melvin Starbrook]]:  only a name change?
* [15:57] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  I've been running things like this for more thana year and a half and it's working well
* [15:57] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  what does it mean Oskar ? Different hours for this meeting ?
* [15:57] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  my OH falls into the new communication plans perfectly
* [15:57] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  once I change the name
* [15:57] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  SBUG has a nice ring to it
* [15:57] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  Server Beta User Group
* [15:57] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  lol
* [15:58] [[User:Identity Euler|Identity Euler]]: 
* [15:58] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  thoughts?
* [15:58] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  nice, lol
* [15:58] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  +1
* [15:58] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  better than BSUG
* [15:58] [[User:Jonathan Yap|Jonathan Yap]]:  BUGS :P
* [15:58] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  Beta User Group - Server?
* [15:58] [[User:Jonathan Yap|Jonathan Yap]]:  yes
* [15:58] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  heh
* [15:58] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  I'll think about it
* [15:58] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  BUGZ:)
* [15:58] [[User:Flip Idlemind|Flip Idlemind]]:  Zerver?
* [15:58] [[User:Identity Euler|Identity Euler]]:  Beta User Group Service :D
* [15:58] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  Beta User Groupie sounds better
* [15:59] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  :-)
* [15:59] [[User:RedMokum Bravin|RedMokum Bravin]]:  Great idea to make clear that this group is not about the viewer anyway.
* [15:59] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  I'll apologize for not getting the transcripts up
* [15:59] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  sounds better with a z at the end:)
* [15:59] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  I've been sick and out of the office for more than a week
* [15:59] [[User:Eddi Decosta|Eddi Decosta]]:  sorry have crashed :)
* [15:59] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  the notes are on this machine
* [15:59] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  I have 3 weeks worth to update after this meeting :-)
* [15:59] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  and there we go. I am done
* [16:00] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  Falcon said he would stay around for more questions
* [16:00] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  that is very generous of him
* [16:00] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  have not heard the coucou this time ?
* [16:00] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  oh,
* [16:00] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  back to COD ?
* [16:00] [[User:Flip IdlemindFlip|Flip IdlemindFlip]]:  Idlemind <-- Came in late, and wants to know what "DRTSIM-30" is (and stands for)
* [16:00] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  :)
* [16:01] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  have a good afternoom all
* [16:01] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  night here
* [16:01] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  :)
* [16:01] [[User:Lares Carter|Lares Carter]]:  thanks for your time oskar, and thanks for updating the transcripts
* [16:01] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  tc all those leaving
* [16:01] [[User:Sigma Avro|Sigma Avro]]:  owell me too Rickk
* [16:01] [[User:Maestro Linden|Maestro Linden]]:  flip: drtsim-30 is the interest list fixes
* [16:01] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  see all y'all next week
* [16:01] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  thanks for your time guys
* [16:01] [[User:Log Linden|Log Linden]]:  Later!
* [16:01] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  I totally forget what the DRT acronym stands for
* [16:01] [[User:RedMokum Bravin|RedMokum Bravin]]:  ciao. till next time.
* [16:01] [[User:Maestro Linden|Maestro Linden]]:  the same thing that's on bluesteel now
* [16:02] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  basically it's a holder for upcoming sim changes
* [16:02] [[User:Monty Linden|Monty Linden]]:  DRT: Don't Run This
* [16:02] [[User:Jonathan Yap|Jonathan Yap]]:  Demand Resource Table
* [16:02] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  lol
* [16:02] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  Dude, Really Tubular
* [16:03] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  hah falcon left
* [16:03] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  group hug on falcon time
* [16:03] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  lol
* [16:03] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  isn't falcon stress enought with trying to fix bugx? show some mercy:)
* [16:04] [[User:Identity Euler|Identity Euler]]: 
* [16:04] [[User:Jonathan Yap|Jonathan Yap]]:  Did he leave voice on this time?
* [16:04] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  heh
* [16:04] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  he can handle it
* [16:04] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  his av probably is physics enhanced
* [16:04] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  should test an old tosser on him :P
* [16:04] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  time i was getting off
* [16:04] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  to bed :)
* [16:04] [[User:Rickk Turbo|Rickk Turbo]]:  nite all
* [16:05] [[User:Identity Euler|Identity Euler]]:  thank you, see you all next time
* [16:05] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  I'm still here
* [16:05] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  mutter mutter
* [16:05] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  there he is
* [16:05] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  was there a question?
* [16:05] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  questions?
* [16:05] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  going once...
* [16:05] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  going twice...
* [16:05] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  the right way to bounce things:)
* [16:05] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  is?
* [16:05] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  how to achieve world peace and kindness towards mankind?
* [16:05] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  hah
* [16:06] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  Latif: First, send me a check for 6 million dollars.
* [16:06] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  then?
* [16:06] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  for a sec latif i though u were quoting team rocket:)
* [16:06] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  Do aditi dollars count? ;)
* [16:06] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  Latif: Then I'll be at peace and happy
* [16:07] [[User:Eddi Decosta|Eddi Decosta]]:  oh, little question about dual monitor, some time i see one black screen for 2 or 3 sec when i resize the viewer .. do you know if the dualscreen is supoorted or not?
* [16:07] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  No clue
* [16:07] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  but I need to run off and work on mesh decompression
* [16:07] [[User:Eddi Decosta|Eddi Decosta]]:  and what i can do to get a full support of that :)
* [16:07] [[User:Falcon Linden|Falcon Linden]]:  So: adieu!
* [16:07] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  ciao
* [16:07] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]:  tc everybody. i am leaving too. and getwell oskar:)
* [16:07] [[User:Maestro Linden|Maestro Linden]]:  Not sure.. I know there's a long-lived bug about rebaking your clothing textures in macos when your viewer isn't on the primary monitor...
* [16:08] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  something about opengl bug in apple dirvers they don't care to fix
* [16:08] [[User:Eddi Decosta|Eddi Decosta]]:  maesto i see that :)
* [16:08] [[User:Flip Idlemind|Flip Idlemind]]:  Oh yeah, and did I hear correctly that Threaded Rez is getting RC'd again
* [16:08] [[User:Flip Idlemind|Flip Idlemind]]:  And also, Stone Linden r here
* [16:08] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  Stoned Linden?
* [16:08] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  I thought that was hiring prerequisite ;)
* [16:10] [[User:Latif Khalifa|Latif Khalifa]]:  hmmm money() event is getting fired twice for a single payment again. *sigh*
* [16:10] [[User:Latif KhalifaLatif|Latif KhalifaLatif]]:  Khalifa goes play customer support
* [16:12] [[User:Flip Idlemind|Flip Idlemind]]:  There's also "DRTVWR-34_2.5.0-beta3" so whatever "DRT" is, it applies to viewers as well
* [16:13] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  I remembered it
* [16:13] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  Deploy Request Tracker
* [16:13] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  whew
* [16:14] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  cya kelly
* [16:15] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  ok guys I am logging off here
* [16:15] [[User:Oskar Linden|Oskar Linden]]:  cya!

Latest revision as of 19:54, 3 February 2011

This meeting was held on February 2nd, 2011

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