Project talk:Languages

Some notes

I prefer use of ISO 639-1 alpha-2 codes for language identification, because it covers most of the major languages and it is the common practice of IT industry today. I believe 639-2 alpha-3 is overkilling for the projects like SL wiki, but it can co-exist with alpha-2 codes, and I added some wording on the possibility of their uses in a future. Use of ISO 639-3 doesn't make sense. (Who wants to have pages in such rare languages?)

I just taken the page title convention from MediaWiki web site. It is primarily consistent with the existing practice on this SL wiki.

I know that Project talk:I18n#Translated versions of an existing article says some different convention on the page translation, but I ignored it, primarily because I don't think ISO 639-3 is a good choice (see above for this point), and entire page and its associated project page doesn't look like a page to cover I18N (internationalziation) issues on SL wiki project. The page is for a group activity called "I18N project". (I believe the author of the page didn't know the purpose of MediaWiki's project name space...)

I know that a set of pages Voice Mentors: Getting Started with Voice and its (incomplete) translations uses similar but different convention. I believe the differences are small, and we can migrate in a future.

-- Alissa Sabre 23:58, 7 September 2007 (PDT)

Supported Languages

I noticed that the list of supported languages shown here and that for viewer UI (shown on How to Localize Your World).

Languages only supported as a wiki page:

• Ilalian
• Dutch

Languages only supported as a viewer UI:

• Korean

I also noticed that the list of supported languages in Template:Languages-spoken is very huge; it looks like covering all ISO 639-1 languages. (Although I've not verified...)

I personally don't care the disagreement in this case. Opinions?

-- Alissa Sabre 18:57, 10 September 2007 (PDT)

Template:ISO_639-3/cat-speaking contains all ISO 639-3 languages in their english spelling.

-- SignpostMarv Martin 18:02, 12 October 2007 (PDT)

I agree having more wiki languages than viewer languages can make sense. I think we say "Ilalian" here to mean "Italian". I, for one, have used the English viewer to chat in Italian.

-- Ppaatt Lynagh 08:08, 4 November 2007 (PST)

Each lang code categorys

In LSL Portal, each languages have categorys. Example,Category:LSL is Category:LSL/fr and Category:LSL/ja, with lang codes. But this is LSL Portal only now. I also want to organize each langs pages with each langs category in other portals. Asuka Neely 04:24, 25 February 2008 (PST)

Originally we weren't going to have the translated articles in categories but I realized that it would aid usability if we did. Having all of them go into a single set of category pages resulted in them getting too busy so we split them. There is no reason I see not to carry the practice across the entire wiki. Strife Onizuka 06:28, 25 February 2008 (PST)

Got no idea why it took me so long to notice this discussion... so let's bring it back to life. I'm going to announce a meeting which should take place within the next two weeks and which should/might have a "final decision" on that topic (at least until someone yells at us ^^)

So the solution I'd like to see is: Leave the LSL Portal as is but provide this for non-lsl articles:

• Create a translation of the category (like Category:Tutorien <- this would be German for "Category:Tutorials"), create a categorized page with the translated articlename that redirects to ARTICLENAME/languagecode. In this example the page would be named Video Tutorien and it would redirect to Video Tutorials/de.

Will keep you posted. Cheers, Zai Lynch^{(talk|contribs)} 21:58, 26 June 2008 (PDT)

Merge or Distinguish

Since both projects are Resident obtained, I can't see the reason of a Project:Languages and a Project:I18n. I think they are kinda the same and just confuse potential contributors. So I'd like to either see them merged into one project or distinguished in a way, that it's easily spottable where the differences are. E.g. goals presented via keywords. My vote is for the merge version atm btw. Greetz, Zai Lynch^{(talk|contribs)} 21:58, 26 June 2008 (PDT)