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| [15:02] 
| Benjamin Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|hi folks
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:02] 
| Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|hey Ben!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:02] 
| Kippie Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Hi Ben
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:02] 
| Benjamin Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|wow malbers, you've changed
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:03] 
| Malbers Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|just trying out an av i picked up a couple hours ago
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:03] 
| Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Steampunk for the win
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:03] 
| Malbers Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I'll be my jelly-licious self in no time
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:03] 
| Benjamin Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|lol
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:03] 
| Benjamin Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|ok I guess I need to set up this project thingy
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:03] 
| Benjamin Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|oh jeeze it's huge
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
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| Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Hey Stephany :)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:03] 
| Kippie Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Yeah...sorry :\
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:03] 
| haon Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|lol
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:03] 
| haon Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|hey steph and tnk
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:04] 
| haon Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|tink*
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:04] 
| Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|We can put it on the roof, lol
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:04] 
| Tinker Toll:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Hey all!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:04] 
| Stephany Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|/ hi everyone
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:04] 
| Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Hi Tinker!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:04] 
| haon Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|hey benjamin; u came when i was getting a drink :)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:04] 
| Phlojo Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|hello
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:04] 
| Kippie Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Hi Stephany
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:05] 
| Roof Doors:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Phlojo Gears is at the door.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:05] 
| Benjamin Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Hi Haon
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:05] 
| Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Wow, cool gear, Tinker! <3 utility belts
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:05] 
| Tinker&nbsp;Toll:
| style="white-space:normal;"|:-) Thanks!!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:05] 
| Tinker&nbsp;Toll:
| style="white-space:normal;"|me too!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:06] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Cool...It looks like I can control that screen from my HUD too
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:06] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|oh good
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:06] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|right on
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:06] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|hehe..thought that might help :)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:07] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|is this an ok position for everyone?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:07] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|looks good to me
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:07] 
| Malbers&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|cool
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:07] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|has anyone seen squirrel lately?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:07] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Hmm, no :(
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:07] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|hmm
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:08] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|ok well let's get started!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:08] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Kippie did you want to walk through these for the residents?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:08] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I'd be happy to!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:08] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Mudflap, there's room on the couch next to me
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:08] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Thanks for coming everyone. As you may have heard, we're going to review the progress on the Landmarks & Navigation project today.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:09] 
| Mudflap&nbsp;Mighty:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Thanks Ben
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:09] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Yay :)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:09] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|The team has been working on wireframes and designs for the proposed enhancements.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:10] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|We've been receiving some very helpful feedback from members of sl-dev....and we wanted to show some updated revisions today and get some feedback as well.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:10] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|With that, I'll turn this over to Phlojo.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:10] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|cool
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:10] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|He's the design lead on our project and will walk us through the wireframes and designs
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:10] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Take it away, Phlo! :)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:11] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Hello everyone, i'm not the fastest typist in the world and not the best speller either
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:11] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|with that being said... here I go
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:11] 
| Malbers&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|so, you are like the rest of us -- perfect
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:11] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|heh
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:11] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|first we are going to take a look at the wireframe docs for the landmark management
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:12] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|there are two solutions that we put together
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:12] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Solution 1 is for a Unified Floaters scenario
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:12] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|and Solution 2 - for a Seprated floaters
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:12] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|so let's go through solution 1
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:12] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|if we can go to the next page
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:12] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|here we go
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:13] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|so here we are calling out the Landmarks main menu
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:13] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|which will be located in the main menu area
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:13] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|clicking on a landmark listed there will immediatedly atempt a telport
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:14] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|as far as creating a landmark, the Create Landmark menu item would be selected
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:14] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|labeled 2 in thsi pdf page
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:14] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|that wil bring up the Create Landmark floater
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:14] 
| colspan="2"|''Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli nods''
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:15] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|this floater not only shows up when Create Landmark is selected from the main nav
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:15] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|but also anytime a Landmark is recieved, from another resident let's say
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:15] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|neat :)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:16] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|that way this floater beccomes the 'gateway' in the create landmark user flow
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:16] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|as u can see on this massive projector screen...
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:16] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|there are a number of editable fields
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:16] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|such as: Name of the landmark
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:16] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|and the Notes
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:17] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|we are also including a Description area
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:17] 
| Ellla&nbsp;McMahon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I apologize ... sorry for bring in front of your screen :(
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:17] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|No worries, Ella :)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:17] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|which is not editable and it is set by the land owner
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:17] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|no worries :) u weren't blocking it
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:17] 
| Ellla&nbsp;McMahon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|:)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:18] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|This is big enough it can probably seen a few regions over ;)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:18] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|haha
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:18] 
| Ellla&nbsp;McMahon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|LOL
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:18] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|this flaoter will give the user the ability to create this landmark at the root level of the landmarks folder structure
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:18] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|lol Kippie
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:18] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|or select a specific folder
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:18] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|vai the "create in" pull down
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:19] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|additionaly, the user will have the ability to create a new folder
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:19] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|and that is represented by the schematic/flow which are highlited by the fancy red arrows
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:19] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Phlojo, remind me to ask a question about the receive landmarks work flow
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:19] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|will
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:20] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|wil do
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:20] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|i am not sure if u guys have seen an earlier itteration of this floater
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:20] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|nope
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:20] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|but we did our best to clean it up and organize it better
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:21] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Good stuff there :)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:21] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|further more, we are going to explor the posibility of combining the description and notes into a tabbed solution
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:21] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|to save even more realestate
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:21] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|any questions on this page?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:21] 
| colspan="2"|''Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli shakes her head, no.''
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:22] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|awsome, everyone is happy :)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:22] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|lol sweet
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:22] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|ship it!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:22] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|on to the next page then
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:22] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|hahaha
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:22] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|yay!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:22] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|lol
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:22] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|actually before we move on
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:22] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|should we talk about the receive landmarks sequence?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:22] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|this page accounts for how the Manage landmarks floater is being acessed
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:22] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Yes, good idea
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:22] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|ok, yeah, let's do that
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:23] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|can you describe how you imagined that working?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:23] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|yes
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:24] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|in a nuttshel after a resident accepts a landmark, this flaoter will pop up
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:24] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|if they do nothing other then click save, the recieved landmark will be by default placed n a Received Landmarks folder
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:24] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|but they do have the opportuniyt of placing it elsewhere via the Create in pull down
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:25] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|and the New folder workflow
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:25] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|what if they hit cancel?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:25] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|is it already in their inventory at that point?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:25] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|is it possible to have a drag and drop option from the landmark pulldown
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:26] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I'd expect it to go to trash, I think? If I recall correctly, that's what happens when you decline inventory offers now
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:26] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|if they accepted the landmark, and they hit cancel... it should probably go to trash
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:26] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Hi Adam
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:26] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|well what Phlojo is describing is you would have already hit Accept
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:26] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|then this window appears
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:26] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Oh. Hm.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:26] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Right..that's the only way this floater would appear.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:26] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|so then the question is, what does OK and Cancel do
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:26] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|and then if u hit cancel, it could still be moved to trash
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:27] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Yeah. Sort of a "Hmm, I guess I don't really want this after all" sort of deal?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:27] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|right
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:27] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Hmmm
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:27] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|right, which we sort of do with Notecards
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:27] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|there are a couple of settings in Preferences you guys should explore
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:27] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|under Popups
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:28] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|that determine if the accepted content displays immediately or not
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:28] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|or auto-accepts
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:28] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|ok
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:28] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|One thing, while I'm thinking of it -- the floater is pretty big right now, and I probably wouldn't need to edit every single landmark I get...
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:28] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|so what if there's a smaller version, where you can just change the name and the folder it goes in, but then you can click a "More >>" button to expand it and enter more
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:29]
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|that is an interesting idea
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:29] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|one thing I'd thought about is if there would be a way to select the folder in the blue pop-up notice
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:29] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|so as part of saying "accept" you also set the folder
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:29] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Would that bypass the Create Landmark floater?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:29] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|and just go straight to the folder you select in the notify window?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:29] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|then if you wanted to turn off the "auto view" option you wouldn't need to see the create landmark folder
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:30] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Got it.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:30] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I'm not sure how feasible/desirable that is
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:30] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|for consistency purposes, i wold incline towards guiding the users towards this floater
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:30] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|any time a new landmark is to be added to their landmarks/inventory
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:31] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I'm hesitant. The blue notify window is.. well, it's not for doing that, hehe. That would seem a bit out of place
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:31] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|the create landmark floater would work fine for excepting a new landmark it is being creating into your inventory or menu and it gives you customization no need to make it more complicated
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:31] 
| Stephany&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|/ good point haon
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:31] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|ok sounds good
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:31] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I'm convinced!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:32] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|hehe
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:32] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|:)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:32] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|the only thing that's a little strange...
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:32] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|is that someone "gives" you a landmark
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:32] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|but then you get a "create landmark" window
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:32] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|we bounced arond the idea of naming this window Add landmark
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:32] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Ah, yeah
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:32] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|so maybe that is a better name
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:33] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|that answer both situations
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:33] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|ok
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:33] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|its been given to u but since its copied it is still going to be created into your folder
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:33] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Good solution
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:33] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|i also like the add landmark more
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:33] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|is Ben convinced ? :) on "add landmark"
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:34] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Or even "Edit Landmark". Hrmm... does this floater come up when you edit the landmark later?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:34] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|a similar one does
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:34] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|yes Add Landmark is fine
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:34] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|ok
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:34] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|a few pages down
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:34] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Got it :)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:34] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|ok thanks for walking us through that
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:34] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|np
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:35] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|shall i continue?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:35] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|yes, please :)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:35] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|right under the Create Landmark (now Add Landmark) menu item
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:35] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|the user will be very pleased to see a menu entry for Manage Landmarks
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:36] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|hehe
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:36] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|or so we hope :)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:36] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|which takes us to the next page of the pdf
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:36] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Manage landmarks sounds good to me... goodness knows my landmarks could use some management!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:36] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|alright
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:37] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|as u can probably notice, the area to the right
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:37] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|is very similar to the Add Landmakr floater
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:37] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Aha
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:37] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|the only exception being the Crate in pull down
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:37] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|to the left
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:37] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|the folder list
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:37] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|with landamarks is also visible
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:38] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|so by double clicking on a landmark, a telport happens
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:38] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|single clicking would load the details of that landmakr into the grayed out area
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:38] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|now here is something that I would love some feedback on...
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:39] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|internally, we are a little thorn between:
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:39] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|1. showing the right area as a grayed out area, before a landmark is selected - this would happen when the floater is first opened up
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:39] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|and
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:39] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|2. potentially showing the first landmark in the list as preloaded
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:39] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|or the last landmark visited
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:40] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|it would make the teleport to last location button less used
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:41] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I think I'd expect it to be grayed out / nothing selected the first time I open it each SL session, but have it remember the last landmark I had selected, when opening it later that session
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:41] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|which button, Haon?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:41] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I agree Jacek
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:41] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Jacek, i like that idea
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:41] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|acquired last teleport
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:41] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|where is that button Haon?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:41] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|that way only once, ever, is this form ever grayed
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:42] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|bottom left
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:42] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|well probably only once per session
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:42] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|yeah, that is probably more accurate
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:42] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I like that a lot
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:42] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|if the landmark editor opened your last location that button would not have a use
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:42] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|how about displaying the last landmark recieved as preselected?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:43] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|make it an opition?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:43] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|yeah
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:43] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|could work
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:43] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|i like that idea
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:44] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|lets move on to the next pdf page
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:44] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|mmm
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:44] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Hrmm. Selecting it would be handy if I'm going to be editing it right away. But if I've just edited / filed it, does it need to be selected? *thinks*
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:44] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|shows the same floater
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:44] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|not grayed out
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:44] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I'm not a big fan of the auto select idea
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:44] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|landmark editor leave blank or acquire previous landmark on initalzation
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:45] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|It seems like it will never be what anyway
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:45] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|what you want, rather
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:45] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|right
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:45] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Ben, I am not a huge fan either, but i keep being overuled... everyone else does
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:45] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|i dont typcally like it when a computer is trying to be smarter then me, and "anticipate" my next move
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:45] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|right
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:45] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Inventory selects the last item you received... but inventory is kinda different, because when you receive an item / clothes, often you want to rez it or try it on right away, and you can only do that by finding it in inventory (which can be tedious)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:46]
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|let's get to the second option
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:46] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|the split windows
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:46] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|ok
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:46] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|so we can get some feedback on that
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:46] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|second pdf doc Kippie
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:46] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|page 5
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:46] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|the first pages are identical to the other pdf
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:47] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|on my way there
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:47] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|but this is where the solution differs
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:47] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|so in this instance
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:47] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|the folder floater
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:47] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|is separated from the edit landmark area
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:47] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|and in this scenario
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:47] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|aha
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:48] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|multiple landmarks can be opened at the same time
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:48] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|that seems to make more sense
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:48] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|yes, this way seems better
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:48] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|mutiple edit landmark floaters tat is
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:48] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|one thing to keep in mind tho
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:48] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|is that a single click
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:48] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|to load the landmark details
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:48] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|will not work anymore
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:49] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|as that would result in many, many edit landmark windows being opened by mistake
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:49] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|so we included a little edit icon next to each landmark
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:49] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|and we are also exploring the idea of having and edit button
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:49] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Hmm. I was thinking that double clicking would edit the landmark, not teleport
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:49] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|double click is already used to teleport
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:49] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|in between new folder and delete
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:50] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|or u could have right click
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:50] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|as opposed to an edit icon next to each landmark
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:50] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|lil drop down menu
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:50] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Yeah, I guess Right Click > Edit would be good
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:50] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|right click will exist
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:50] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|and consistent with the inventory
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:50] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I'm not a fan of the edit button :\
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:50] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|but it needs to be a little more discoverable, so we're looking for a more obvious way
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:50] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|for the novice users etc
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:50] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|hrmm
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:51] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|do u favor a little edit icon next to each landmark vs an edit button at the bottom?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:51] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|no
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:51] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I was just going to say, an edit button down next to the Delete one, hehe
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:51] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|to easy to click by mistake
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:52] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|both of them
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:52] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Having a button next to every landmark would be quite busy o_O
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:52] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|yes
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:52] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|that is true
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:52] 
| Malbers&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|one button on the bottom is very standard rich UI design whereas an icon next to each entry is very Web-ish
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:52] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|but it wold allow one click access to the landmark details
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:52] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|one shared edit button at the bottom
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:52] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|rsults in a cleaner ui
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:53] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|but requires 2 clicks for each landmark to be opened
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:53] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|so there are pros and cons
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:53] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I don't think 2 clicks is a problem
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:53] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|for both
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:53] 
| Malbers&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|as always
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:53] 
| Malbers&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|tradeoffs
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:53] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|:) fair enough
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:54] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I mean... I have trouble imagining a situation where I would need really fast access to tons of landmark details
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:54] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Good point.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:54] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|that's good feedback Jacek
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:54] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|yeah
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:54] 
| Malbers&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|yeah -- the more common use case is to TP not to edit details
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:54] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|is there some high-level detail that would give you more context?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:54] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|like the region/parcel name?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:54] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|so, with that being said - edit button probably is it
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:55] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Show on Map icon does that
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:55] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|having it as a right click i think is very novice friendly and it would eliminate either edit buttons
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:55] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|right-click menus are hard for some users, Haon
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:55] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|i think... re Show on Map
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:55] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I think the edit button is good to have... if only to appease the Mac users ;) *grin*
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:56] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|less discoverable
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:56] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|right and bad for mac users
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:56] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|lol...hey now
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:56] 
| Tinker&nbsp;Toll:
| style="white-space:normal;"|guys, this page has not yet rezzed for me, can erybody else see it ok?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:56] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|hehehe
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:56] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|:D good point jacek
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:56] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|yes, I can see it Tinker
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:56] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|same here
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:56] 
| colspan="2"|''Adam&nbsp;Marker feels .... slightly appeased''
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:56] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|maybe try zooming in on it?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:56] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|maybe u need a mac :P
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:57] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|An "Edit" button isn't that expensive, anyway. In terms of real estate
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:57] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|that is true
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:57] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Okay, shall we move along? Almost out of time :O
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:57] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|yes
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:57] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|yup
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:57] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|next pdf page please
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:57] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|just for one sec
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:58] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|u will see, on the next page, the right click menu
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:58] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|and also, the above mentioned "Show on Map" and "Copy SLURL" icons
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:59] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|i like the idea of having the edit but plus the right click
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:59] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|button*
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:59] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|(A small comment... the one-letter buttons, like E, m, s... I was confused what they meant, so I'm hoping they're just stand-ins for the full text description)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:59] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|yeah, they are
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:59] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Yes, they will most likely be icons.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:59] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|they will be icons
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:59] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|cool
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:59] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|sounds good
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:00] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|and they will be repositioned to fit next to the area info
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:00] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|and traffic
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:00] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|not next to the editable name text field
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:00] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|great
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:00] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|The right-click menu looks good, as well
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:01] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Copy SLURL +1 :D
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:01] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|;-)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:01] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|shall we stop here, continue the wireframe discussions, or move on to the nav bar designs?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:01] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|i am fine either way
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:01] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|me too
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:01] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I actually need to run but please continue. If someone would send me the transcript I'd appreciate it.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:01] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Sure thing.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:01] 
| Benjamin&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|thanks Kippie!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:01] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I'm fine to continue as well.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:02] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|a pleasure, Ben :)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:02] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|yes, let's continue :D
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:02] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|ok
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:02] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|before we do so
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:02] 
| Malbers&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|i gotta run too. talk next week.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:02] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|can I get a vote from everyone as to which solution is preffered?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:02] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Cya Malbers!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:02] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Take care, Ben and Malbers!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:02] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Unified, or Separated ?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:02] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|seperated floaters
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:02] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I like the separated floaters
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:02] 
| Tinker&nbsp;Toll:
| style="white-space:normal;"|separated
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:02] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|take care Ben
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:03] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|and Malbers
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:03] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Uses less space in the common case
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:03] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|and allows multiple editing, as well :D
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:03] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|anyone for unfied?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:03] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|way more practical
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:03] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|not trying to push unified, just curious
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:03] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|doesn't look like it :)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:04] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|:) that is true
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:04] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|let's have a look at the nav bar designs
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:04] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|cool
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:04] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|can we load those Kippie?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:04] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|You got it, Phlo
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:04] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|danke
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:04] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|ooo kool
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:05] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|we have two general directions
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:05] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|and a few variations for each
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:05] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|one is centered nav
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:05] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|the other accounts for a left justified nav
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:05] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|by default, in both situations the nav bar is colapsable
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:05] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|can we see the one that would be on the left
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:05] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|so on the screen u see the centered colapsed
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:06] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|next slide please
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:06] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|haon, we'll get there in 2 slides or so
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:06] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|kool :)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:06] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|so now here is the centered in a boxier treatment
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:06] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|and next page please
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:06] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|the same desgn style with rounded corners
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:07] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|we already know that we are going to simplify the history pulldown
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:07] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|so that it isn't so visually heavy
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:07] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|and more along the lines of a standard pull down
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:07] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|ex: Gesture pull-up menu
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:07] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|cool
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:07] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|next slide
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:08] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|yes, sir!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:08] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|:)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:08] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|here we have the left justified
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:08] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|in the inactive mode
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:08] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|and (next slide)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:08] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|the active/visible mode
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:09] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|as u noticed, the functionality on these is similar
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:09] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|and we have a back button
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:09] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|forward button
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:09] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|a unified history pulldown
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:09] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|which shows the current location as highlited
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:09] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|and the back and/or forward locations above and bellow
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:09] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|awsome
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:10] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|i like the centred idea just for the sake of symetry
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:10] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|this simplifies the ui, so that we dont need to have 1 pull down for each button
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:10] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|next
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:10] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|we have a few design variations
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:10] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|on the left and centered
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:11] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|these next designs, are even closer to the Dazzle look and feel
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:11] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|next slide
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:11] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|(this is the left with rounded corners)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:11] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|next slide please
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:12] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|apologies...a little laggy over here at the moment
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:12] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|np :)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:12] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|same functionality, different design treatment
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:12] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|and 2 slides dow, we have this same design in a left justified format
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:12] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|down*
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:13] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|so, first i am curious as to which is prefered, centered or left ?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:13] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|one sec, sorry...something's acting a little funky
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:14] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|left vs center?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:14] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|anyone?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:14] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|center
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:14] 
| Tinker&nbsp;Toll:
| style="white-space:normal;"|center
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:14] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|again for symetry
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:14] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Centered is good -- it creates a spatial relationship with the location on the top menu bar
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:14] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|ok
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:14] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I really like that theme, too. :D
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:15] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|which one?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:15] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|The darker blue with silver buttons
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:15] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|the first progressive one
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:15] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|or the Dazzeled one?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:15] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Yeah. It doesn't fit with Dazzle at all, but... well, I'd rather Dazzle change to fit this one, lol
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:15] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|as in, round buttons or little square-ish buttons?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:15] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Rounded ones
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:15] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|ok
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:15] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|it draws insiparation from Dazzle
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:15] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|somewhat
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:16] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|as far as clor palete
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:16] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|And the bigger buttons are nice, too
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:16] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|and we are going to do another variation on it, to make the buttons be a little more Dazzle like
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:16] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|replicate the same gloss/reflection treatment
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:16] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Alright, if you must... ^_^; *not such a fan of the Dazzle treatment*
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:17] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|not that I want to speak for Ben, but he also liked the round buttons treatment
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:17] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|but in a left justified position
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:17] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|The left-justified one is acceptable, but I'd prefer the centered one, slightly
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:18] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|alright... any other comments, ideas...
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:18] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|me too with rounded buttons
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:18] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|words of wisdom :) insirational quotes ? :)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:18] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|hehe
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:18] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Keep your ears dry and your nose clean?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:18] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|:)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:19] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|looks like this is it for today
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:19] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Cool.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:19] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|please feel free to share any other ideas or opinions u have via sl-dev
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:19] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Thank you everyone for your feedback and thoughts!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:19] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Great stuff :D
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:19] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|i have one
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:19] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|we're all on that list (so far just reading)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:19] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|As always, feel free to drop me an IM if you have questions or ideas.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:20] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|We'll be posting these designs to the JIRA project and again on sl-dev.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:20] 
| Stephany&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|NAV-28
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:20] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Great, Kippie
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:20] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|i would like to see the height editors spectrum inceased
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:21] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|is this in regards to the nav?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:21] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|i gues i'm not following
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:21] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|no srry
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:21] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|or mabe we are done with the nav and landmarks
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:21] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|alright... gotcha
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:21] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|well' i got to jet too, but we'llm be in touch
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:21] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|via sl-dev, jira and all the other means
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:21] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|It's looking good, and it's great to see the progress and revisions :D
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:21] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|have a nice day guys and gals
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:21] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Thanks for a great run-through Phlo!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:22] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Talk to ya tomorrow!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:22] 
| Phlojo&nbsp;Gears:
| style="white-space:normal;"|peace out!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:22] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Thanks, Phlo, Kippie, and all!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:22] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|is there a group i can join which has linden meeting notifications and what they are about
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:22] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I don't know of a group..but there is a google public calendar which is pretty useful
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:23] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|i will check that out ty
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:23] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|/noanim crossleg
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:23] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|lemme see if I can get you a link
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:23] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|that would be a great help
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:24] 
| Tinker&nbsp;Toll:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Tillie Ariantho has made a calendar on Google
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:24] 
| Tinker&nbsp;Toll:
| style="white-space:normal;"|http://www.google.com/calendar/render?gsessionid=dteu4d5DSxIRuVr-rAc_6w
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:25] 
| Jacek&nbsp;Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Alright, I'm gonna head out. Take care, all!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:25] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|l8ter jacek
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:25] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Cya jacek!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:25] 
| Tinker&nbsp;Toll:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Bye all!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:25] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Thanks for all your input!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:25] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|If you go here: http://www.google.com/calendar/render?mode=gallery&cat=POPULAR
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:26] 
| haon&nbsp;Arado:
| style="white-space:normal;"|yah l8ter everyone
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:26] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|and do a search for Linden Lab Public Events there's a great office hours public cal
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:26] 
| Stephany&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|/ I have the transcript ben - heading to the wiki now - bye!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:26] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|alrighty, cya haon..have a good one :)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:26] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Cya Stephany
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:26] 
| Stephany&nbsp;Linden:
| style="white-space:normal;"|bye kippie!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:27] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Guess that's about it for me too.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:27] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Lemme get rid of my giant projector screen :)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:27] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Heh..can't do it. I'll have to leave that for you, Ben :)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:27] 
| Kippie&nbsp;Friedkin:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Cheers for now!
|}

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