User:Whump Linden/Office Hours/Transcript 20080723

Open Grid Public Beta Office Hour at Ambleside Airship Dock

Summary

• Housekeeping
  1. If you have not been added to the 'gridnauts' group inworld please contact Whump Linden via IM or Notecard.
     • When you sign up for the gridnauts mailing list, he may not be able to figure out who your avatar is from your email address
     • You need to be in the group in order to authenticate to our agent domain
     • If you want to add an alt to the group, contact Whump, but limit it to one alt per list member.
     • Apologies in advance if you have to juggle groups.
  2. Between now and the 31st, please log into the Beta Grid with a release or RC viewer to make sure you can log in.

• PJIRA
  1. Please see Issue Tracking During the Public Beta for info on which components to file against.
  2. The umbrella issue for tracking issues is SVC-2632
  3. See, for example, SVC-2682

• OpenSim Patch
  1. Zha Ewry has a patch for Open Sim running against our Agent Domain
  2. The patch will be available on the OpenSim GForge repository
  3. Thanks to Adam Zaius for hosting the patch
  4. Whump will attempt to make Ubuntu and Mac OS binaries
  5. Thanks to Dahlia Trimble for making a binary with Zha's original Mantis patch.

Transcript

• [13:25] Siddhartha Fonda: hi Saij
• [13:25] Siddhartha Fonda: hi Adam
• [13:25] Siddhartha Fonda: hi Harleen
• [13:25] Siddhartha Fonda: hi Whump
• [13:25] Whump Linden: Howdy.
• [13:26] Adam Zaius: yo
• [13:26] Siddhartha Fonda: can i be a gridnaut too?
• [13:26] Whump Linden: Siddhartha, have you signed up for the beta?
• [13:27] Siddhartha Fonda: probably not -- i need to go back and read that note again
• [13:28] Xugu Madison: Evening (well it is here) all!
• [13:28] Whump Linden: Hello.
• [13:28] Shaun Altman: Hi
• [13:29] Shaun Altman: most excellent av
• [13:29] Whump Linden: I'll start in a couple of mins, not quite 1:30.
• [13:29] Waldina Katar: (Right): releasing controls
• [13:30] Carlos Roundel: hello
• [13:30] Whump Linden: There's another stool, that'll seat four to my right.
• [13:30] Whump Linden: and I can rez another seat
• [13:31] Saijanai Kuhn: Nice turnout and I didn't spam save gridnauts and pyogp IRC
• [13:31] Dahlia Trimble: cant stay long :(
• [13:31] BigMike Bukowski: I need to start going into the IRC channels.
• [13:32] Whump Linden: Okay, since there's so many AWG related meetings, I'd like to keep this one shorter.
• [13:32] Alliez Mysterio: HI everyone
• [13:32] Dahlia Trimble: hi :)
• [13:32] Whump Linden: So first, hello and welcome.
• [13:32] Whump Linden: This office hour is for the Open Grid Beta Program.
• [13:32] Whump Linden: [1]
• [13:33] Whump Linden: So I recognize most folks here from AWG and Zero's office hours.
• [13:33] Tao Takashi: Hi
• [13:33] Whump Linden: So first, a couple of house keeping items.
• [13:34] Whump Linden: 1. If you're participating in the beta, and you're not in the Gridnauts group inworld, please IM or send a notecard.
• [13:34] Whump Linden: You also need to be subscribed to the mailing list.
• [13:35] Whump Linden: https://lists.secondlife.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gridnauts
• [13:35] Whump Linden: But you need to be in the 'gridnauts' group in order to log into the agent domain server.
• [13:35] G2 Proto: do we need sound for this meeting? hey all!
• [13:35] Saijanai Kuhn: ahhhh...
• [13:36] Zha Ewry: Suspects, usual
• [13:36] Whump Linden: 2. Since you're logging into the agent domain attached to aditi, you should also confirm you can login to aditi between now and the 31sth.
• [13:36] Xugu Madison: and if we can't, poke you with a stick?
• [13:36] Dahlia Trimble: check
• [13:36] Whump Linden: I'll send a note to the list, and post to the wiki.
• [13:36] Saijanai Kuhn: This explains why AD login test stopped working for pyogp
• [13:37] Whump Linden: Xugu: yes, IM or notecard.
• [13:37] Tao Takashi: Sai: it's more the header issue I think
• [13:37] Whump Linden: Yes, Tao.
• [13:37] Saijanai Kuhn: ah ok. light bulb goes dim
• [13:37] Whump Linden: That's being tracked in [2]
• [13:38] Whump Linden: So that leads into the next item, filing JIRA's during the beta.
• [13:38] Dahlia Trimble: bad url
• [13:38] Saijanai Kuhn: period
• [13:38] BigMike Bukowski: remove the period
• [13:38] Whump Linden: the '.' bug
• [13:38] Dahlia Trimble: oops
• [13:38] G2 Proto: lol
• [13:38] Whump Linden: is there a pjira for that one?
• [13:38] Tao Takashi: is this bug filed? :)
• [13:39] Whump Linden: Tao, yes SVC-2682 is now assigned to Tess in our internal JIRA.
• [13:39] Dahlia Trimble: can we add a few alt accounts to the group?
• [13:40] Tao Takashi: I meant the .-bug
• [13:40] Tao Takashi: I saw the assignment
• [13:40] Whump Linden: If you have an alt you want to add, that would be fine. Would limiting it to one cause problems for anyone.
• [13:40] Dahlia Trimble: one is ok
• [13:40] Whump Linden: Tao, the '.', not to my knowledge, but worth a look in PJIRA.
• [13:40] Whump Linden: Okay.
• [13:41] Whump Linden: So filing bugs during the beta, please see [3]
• [13:41] Tammy Nowotny: shd be fine
• [13:41] Whump Linden: There are three components you can file issues against.
• [13:42] Whump Linden: [4] is the umbrella issue for tracking all the JIRAs during the beta
• [13:42] Whump Linden: If you were involved in the Mono beta, we're doing the same thing here.
• [13:43] Whump Linden: Any questions about filing JIRAs?
• [13:43] Whump Linden: or bug tracking in general
• [13:44] Bastet Broome: is it necessary to register ourselves on the web site?
• [13:44] Whump Linden: the one thing to note, if you're familiar with PJIRA is that there's a field for pasting in the URL of an external issue tracker such as Mantis or Bugzilla if you need a way to associate with your issue tracker.
• [13:45] Whump Linden: Bastet, for the beta, yes.
• [13:45] Dahlia Trimble: [5]
• [13:45] Bastet Broome: ok thanks
• [13:45] Dahlia Trimble: for opensim issues
• [13:45] Whump Linden: oh, misunderstood the context of Bastet's question.
• [13:45] Whump Linden: okay
• [13:46] Whump Linden: third item, OpenSim patch
• [13:46] Zha Ewry: looks up
• [13:46] Whump Linden: Zha, do you want to address that or I can give a status.
• [13:46] Zha Ewry: I can update people
• [13:46] Whump Linden: cool
• [13:47] Zha Ewry: I caught up to the current test implementatiion at Linden this morning
• [13:47] Whump Linden: Zha, you have the floor, or prim, as it were.
• [13:48] Zha Ewry: Assuming that doesn't change, I'll push out a new patch sometime in the next 24 hours or so. Its about 25% cleaner, (in the older code) and really painful where I sorted out the chanages. I'm hoping to get the pain out in the new code tommorow
• [13:48] G2 Proto: great news Zha!
• [13:48] Dahlia Trimble: which rev is it derived from?
• [13:48] Zha Ewry: and I'm going to probably talk to Adam about hosting it on the new forge server OpenSim has put up tonight.
• [13:48] Zha Ewry: Its on trunk, as of 15 minutes ago
• [13:48] G2 Proto: great!
• [13:48] Whump Linden: okay, do you want to host that on gforge, then?
• [13:49] Dahlia Trimble: kewl
• [13:49] Strawberry Fride: nice work :)
• [13:49] Tao Takashi: Zha: you post it again to the opensim mantis?
• [13:49] Zha Ewry: I've gotten the setup about right, for doing daily merges on tortise
• [13:49] Adam Zaius: Zha: Register a forge account and project, and I can approve those right now.
• [13:49] Adam Zaius: Sean has perms to do it as well.
• [13:49] Dahlia Trimble: awesome
• [13:49] G2 Proto: kewl!
• [13:49] Whump Linden: woot, thanks again to Zha for her work on this.
• [13:49] Zha Ewry: ok
• [13:50] G2 Proto: thanks Zha mega woot!!!!
• [13:50] Zha Ewry: is there a linke to the gforge page off the main opensim page?
• [13:50] Whump Linden: [6]
• [13:50] Zha Ewry: (Expect a lot of updates to this,in the next few days, as I get it cleaned up)
• [13:50] Tammy Nowotny: Thanks Zha!
• [13:50] Whump Linden: And I'll get the OGPB paged updated with the link to that once it's in place.
• [13:50] Tao Takashi: very cool :)
• [13:51] Tao Takashi: yeah, new docs would be great
• [13:51] Saijanai Kuhn: will you be explaining that your finally releasing the code isn't due to Prokofy's urging?
• [13:51] Whump Linden: Building mono exe files is pretty straightforward, but I'll try and have ubuntu and mac builds made and available
• [13:52] Tao Takashi: well, compared to a while back I think it's pretty easy nowadays to get opensim compiled
• [13:52] Whump Linden: okay, any questions on the patch, OpenSim?
• [13:52] Tammy Nowotny: LOL Sai
• [13:52] Tammy Nowotny: I cd use a mac build
• [13:52] Whump Linden: kk
• [13:52] G2 Proto: no Whump not from me just appreciate the efforts!
• [13:52] Tammy Nowotny: Thanks Whump
• [13:52] G2 Proto: thanks Whump!!!!, Zha!
• [13:53] Zha Ewry: anyone lookinfg for ubuntu or windows tips on the mono build path, can sing out
• [13:53] Whump Linden: Also want to thank Dahlia for an earlier build of the patched version that we were using earlier in the week.
• [13:53] Zha Ewry: Its pretty straigh forward
• [13:53] Tao Takashi: well, if there would be some script which automates the whole build, that would be great
• [13:53] G2 Proto: I'll try it for WIndows tonite and report back to group chat
• [13:53] Whump Linden: great
• [13:53] Zha Ewry: it builds off nant
• [13:53] Tao Takashi: yeah, but the docs for mac says that I have to change some stuff and copy things around
• [13:53] G2 Proto: go Dhalia!
• [13:54] Tao Takashi: like the libsl parts
• [13:54] Zha Ewry: Ahh
• [13:54] Zha Ewry: glances around for a mac guru
• [13:54] Whump Linden: okay, the last item was going to be about region domain urls, but as several folks pointed out, we are spending a lot of time in inworld meetings.
• [13:54] Tao Takashi: which is not that hard but if somebody already automated this maybe this could be reused :)
• [13:54] Whump Linden: So, I'd like to have that discussion on the list.
• [13:54] Saijanai Kuhn: I got libsl to work on a Mac :-/
• [13:55] Tao Takashi: +1 Whump
• [13:55] Enus Linden: yay sai! :p
• [13:55] Whump Linden: And use the office hours for announcments, status, and making sure JIRAs have been addressed.
• [13:56] Whump Linden: Okay, if anyone else has announcements or questions?
• [13:56] Dahlia Trimble: needs to go, will a transcript be posted?
• [13:56] Tammy Nowotny: I am more of a Mac devotee ... a student-novice at best... not even a Mac lay anunicate
• [13:56] Tammy Nowotny: *renunicate
• [13:56] Saijanai Kuhn: used to be a Mac programmer, 20+ years ago
• [13:57] Xugu Madison: I use Macs... just not as OpenSim platforms...
• [13:57] Whump Linden: Yes I'll make sure they are posted to the wiki.
• [13:57] Dahlia Trimble: thanks :) Bye all :)
• [13:57] Tao Takashi: ok, thanks for the updates! :)
• [13:57] Whump Linden: By Dahila, thanks.
• [13:58] Tao Takashi: then I am also off again.. cya all soon in a beta near you! :)
• [13:58] Whump Linden: Okay. I guess we're done. Until next week I'll see folks on the list and keep you apprised of things. I'll also summarize this to the list from the transcript.
• [13:58] Tammy Nowotny: TYVM Whump!
• [13:58] Tao Takashi: cool :)
• [13:58] Xugu Madison: See you in e-mail :)
• [13:58] Alliez Mysterio: Thanks Whump
• [13:58] Whump Linden: If you have a snapshot of the meeting, I'd love to have a copy for my archives.
• [13:58] Carlos Roundel: tanks whump
• [13:58] BigMike Bukowski: Thanks Whyump
• [13:59] Xugu Madison: Thanks Whump!
• [13:59] Whump Linden: You're all welcome!
• [13:59] Adam Zaius:  :)
• [13:59] Bastet Broome: thanks to all, bye!
• [13:59] Harleen Gretzky: thanks Whump
• [13:59] Alliez Mysterio: bye all
• [13:59] Whump Linden: one of the sofa sculpties still hasn't rezzed for me yet.
• [14:00] Tammy Nowotny: they looked pretty funny as huge spheres with people embedded in them
• [14:00] Whump Linden: ah, so it wasn't just me
• [14:00] Infinity Linden: it's a feature
• [14:00] Strawberry Fride: no, I see one big sphere with embedded avatars too
• [14:00] Whump Linden: ooh, right click it and it sorts itself out
• [14:00] Lars Donardson: that's cuz you didn't use llKickServer in the script Whump
• [14:00] Tammy Nowotny: feels better knowing even a Linden has issues with sculpty rendering at times :-)
• [14:01] Saijanai Kuhn: huh. It looked right when I first got here
• [14:01] Xugu Madison: Seeya later
• [14:02] Whump Linden: Okay, I'm going to run off and sort through notes and requests.
• [14:02] Strawberry Fride: oo - true!
• [14:02] Strawberry Fride: cunning trick
• [14:02] Strawberry Fride: thanks Whump