Bug triage/2008-10-15/Transcript

Agenda

• [14:57] Female Anim: Overide Set 2 (cnt) - Abranimations: Following commands available '/1help', '/1ao on', '/1ao off, '/1ao reset', '/1ao hide', '/1ao show
• [14:57] Gesture Female: - Laugh is missing from database.
• [14:57] Connecting to: in-world Voice Chat...
• [14:57] Connected undefined:
• [14:57] Teleport completed: from [1]
• [14:57] Connecting to: in-world Voice Chat...
• [14:57] Connected undefined:
• [14:57] Bridie Linden: hola!
• [14:58] Cummere Mayo: we be jammin today?
• [14:58] Bridie Linden: i hope so!
• [14:58] Cummere Mayo: looks all wanna be jamacan
• [14:58] Squirrel Wood: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8849 could eventually be taken off the agenda as it has a proposed action commented by Babbage Linden
• [14:58] Entering god: mode, level 150
• [14:59] Cummere Mayo: um ok bridie want me to take it off fast?
• [14:59] Bridie Linden: done!
• [14:59] Cummere Mayo: or um lol nevermind lol
• [15:00] Bridie Linden: how's everyone doing?
• [15:00] Aimee Trescothick: still alive
• [15:00] Alexa Linden: mighty fine!
• [15:00] Cummere Mayo: tired *leans over and falls asleep on selena*
• [15:00] Aimee Trescothick: which is always useful ^^
• [15:00] Bridie Linden: is drinking coffee now
• [15:00] Squirrel Wood: alive! ^^
• [15:00] Selena Beale: pokes Cummere softly and smiles "You need to sleep after this you know"
• [15:01] Bridie Linden: Everything ok Aimee?
• [15:01] Aimee Trescothick: yep :)
• [15:01] Squirrel Wood: Zombie Panic!
• [15:01] Aimee Trescothick: wedding planning so a little stressed lol
• [15:01] Alexa Linden: ooh i bet!
• [15:01] Bridie Linden: in SL or RL?
• [15:01] Aimee Trescothick: SL
• [15:01] Bridie Linden: (either could be stressful)
• [15:01] Bridie Linden: nice, congrats!
• [15:01] Cummere Mayo: hey ellla!
• [15:02] Aimee Trescothick:  :) kinda RL and SLbut still need to solve the slight issue for a 500 mile gap in RL
• [15:02] Bridie Linden: ellla w/3 ls — all for love! ;)
• [15:02] Cummere Mayo: hehe
• [15:02] Bridie Linden: love will be today's triage theme then
• [15:02] Bridie Linden:  :)
• [15:02] Aimee Trescothick: :D cool
• [15:02] Alexa Linden: lol
• [15:02] Bridie Linden: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Bug_triage/Wednesday_Agenda
• [15:02] Bridie Linden: I'd LOVE to start!
• [15:02] Bridie Linden:  :)
• [15:03] Alexa Linden: puts on her seatbelt
• [15:03] Bridie Linden: First up,
• [15:03] Bridie Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3102
• [15:03] Bridie Linden: stars + moon
• [15:03] Ellla McMahon: awh thanks Bridie :)) .. hello everyone :))
• [15:03] Zen Linden: o.O
• [15:03] Aimee Trescothick: woah
• [15:03] Bridie Linden: I couldn't zoom in enough to really tell on 3102...
• [15:03] Squirrel Wood: screenshots show it
• [15:03] Aimee Trescothick: that's astronomically worrying
• [15:03] Bridie Linden: lol
• [15:03] Aimee Trescothick: time to call Bruce Willis?
• [15:03] Cummere Mayo: it defiantely has stars infront of the moon
• [15:03] Squirrel Wood: I would just explain that that's the way it is supposed to be in SL ^^
• [15:04] Aimee Trescothick: ah yes, we have a flat wold
• [15:04] Aimee Trescothick: *world
• [15:04] Bridie Linden: has anyone checked 1.20?
• [15:04] Aimee Trescothick: so why not?
• [15:04] Aimee Trescothick: maybe it's a passing satellite?
• [15:04] Zen Linden: yeah, it's broken by design
• [15:04] Gellan Glenelg: original report is for 1.18
• [15:04] Bridie Linden: I agree that this is low...
• [15:04] Gellan Glenelg: so it's not new
• [15:05] Zen Linden: still does it
• [15:05] Bridie Linden: really Zen?
• [15:05] Alexa Linden: buncha haters!
• [15:05] Alexa Linden: more sarts!
• [15:05] Zen Linden: well, not by design
• [15:05] Cummere Mayo: is this to remind us this isnt a real world zen?
• [15:05] Zen Linden: but yes, still does it
• [15:05] Bridie Linden: Easy or hard to address?
• [15:05] Aimee Trescothick: it's light from Linden Lab's secret moon base
• [15:05] Zen Linden: lol. It's to remind us that we should have fixed it during 1.19.1
• [15:06] Squirrel Wood: I would assume that all that needs done is change the render order
• [15:06] Zen Linden: yup
• [15:06] Bridie Linden: Shall we import?
• [15:06] Cummere Mayo: hi bambers
• [15:06] Bridie Linden: all in favor of this lovely issue?
• [15:06] Bambers Linden: hi cummere
• [15:06] Zen Linden: yes. Also, might be worth throwing to open source
• [15:06] Cummere Mayo: yes! import!
• [15:07] Squirrel Wood: Mmmm. Open Sauce ^^
• [15:07] Bridie Linden: nods
• [15:07] Cummere Mayo: zesty and tangy with just a hint of noob blood
• [15:07] Zen Linden: really wants apple sauce now
• [15:07] Alexa Linden: I'll take a kungpow chicken please?
• [15:07] Aimee Trescothick: Mac Sauce
• [15:07] Gellan Glenelg: Is it worth relating it to https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1577 ?
• [15:07] Bridie Linden: Frozen twix please
• [15:08] Bridie Linden: Sure Gellan, ty!
• [15:08] Alexa Linden: none left bridie :((
• [15:08] Zen Linden: Gellan. ossm
• [15:08] Zen Linden: go for it
• [15:08] Nya Linden: sadness.
• [15:08] Bridie Linden: look s@ nya
• [15:08] Alexa Linden: points at Nya
• [15:08] Gellan Glenelg: done
• [15:08] Nya Linden: *I* didn't eat the frozen twixes!
• [15:08] Alexa Linden: caughs "twix pig"
• [15:09] Bridie Linden: (hic)
• [15:09] Nya Linden: looks guilty.
• [15:09] Bridie Linden: NExt up
• [15:09] Bridie Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-9330
• [15:09] Squirrel Wood: I commented. ^^
• [15:09] Bridie Linden: Which we've talked about before
• [15:09] Gellan Glenelg: yeah - NOT new
• [15:09] Cummere Mayo: it was fixed for a bit
• [15:09] Gellan Glenelg: gotta be a dupe
• [15:09] Cummere Mayo: but its baaaaccck
• [15:09] Bridie Linden: I'd say resolve as NMI for now
• [15:09] Alexa Linden: kk
• [15:10] Nya Linden: out of curiosity, was this in 1.20?
• [15:10] Cummere Mayo: what info you nee bridie?
• [15:10] Bridie Linden: if it's still happening, if so when/where...
• [15:10] Alexa Linden: I'll try to find a dup too
• [15:10] Cummere Mayo: i its still happening
• [15:10] Nya Linden: this is the typing... bug, right? happens in 1.21 and previously, yes?
• [15:10] Bridie Linden: nods
• [15:10] Bridie Linden: due to packet loss?
• [15:11] Selena Beale: Hmm.. interesting.. maybe
• [15:11] Squirrel Wood: packet loss is a likely cause
• [15:11] Nya Linden: that would be my guess, along with Squirrel. Maybe we can take it internal for QA to try to repro?
• [15:11] Nya Linden: or find the dup and see if that's already internal? We've got tools that can simulate packet loss.
• [15:11] Bridie Linden: Sure, sounds good
• [15:11] Bridie Linden: Thx Nya-twix-eater
• [15:11] Zen Linden: better handling of such loss would be nice, but there's a lot of things that need that.
• [15:12] Nya Linden: gotta have my sugar fix if I'm going to work..
• [15:12] Nya Linden: today was reeses easter eggs... ;)
• [15:12] Bridie Linden: happy easter!
• [15:12] Bridie Linden: Let's move on to...
• [15:12] Bridie Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-9583
• [15:12] Squirrel Wood: hoppy easter, yes ^^
• [15:12] Squirrel Wood: Isn't sculptmap detail limited to 64x64 anyway?
• [15:12] Nya Linden: srsly. I look forward to your leftover halloween candy next August.
• [15:13] Cummere Mayo: hides the crowbar and the empty trix box and denys having broken into any LL refirdgerators
• [15:13] Bridie Linden: is still reading....
• [15:13] Zen Linden: I wouldn't import this just yet and ping qarl about it
• [15:13] Alexa Linden: ok
• [15:13] Zen Linden: he'd have the best idea
• [15:14] Selena Beale: looks at Cummere "Quit stealing my trix boxes"
• [15:14] Bridie Linden: agrees w/Zen
• [15:14] Cummere Mayo: this one isnt yours sel. you havent let me visit you yet
• [15:14] Bridie Linden: Next...
• [15:14] Bridie Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-9504
• [15:14] Squirrel Wood: graphics driver update! or downgrade respectively.
• [15:15] Selena Beale: Hmm.. good answer
• [15:15] Bridie Linden: sighs
• [15:15] Bridie Linden: nods
• [15:15] Alexa Linden: ok
• [15:16] Selena Beale: Ask their driver versions
• [15:16] Bridie Linden: Next up, with movies!
• [15:16] Bridie Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-9663
• [15:17] Squirrel Wood: Hello Colton!
• [15:17] Colton Linden: Hi There :)
• [15:17] Cummere Mayo: did we just skip one?
• [15:17] Alexa Linden: Hey Colton :D
• [15:17] Alexa Linden: no?
• [15:17] Colton Linden: )
• [15:17] Cummere Mayo: nevermind im dyslexic again
• [15:17] Alexa Linden: lol
• [15:18] Bridie Linden: was reading exchange w/Ramzi
• [15:18] Selena Beale: Hmm... well.. umm.. seems a linden repoed it
• [15:18] Selena Beale: So.. it apparently can be
• [15:18] Bridie Linden: sorta
• [15:19] Bridie Linden: I can't view vids
• [15:19] Alexa Linden: Ramzi's a watcher and he seems to be triaging this thus far
• [15:19] Cummere Mayo: well i say if ramzi was able to repo it we ping him and ask him about import
• [15:19] Alexa Linden: I can add a triaged date
• [15:19] Bridie Linden: Yes, I'd say let's leave this one...
• [15:19] Bridie Linden: "HOWEVER in 1.20, the mouse cursor disappears while I am CTRL+dragging, which makes it impossible to judge if it is "falling behind" the cursor or not"
• [15:19] Bridie Linden: ramzi's comment ^^
• [15:20] Bridie Linden: Next up, reported for 1.19.1 + 1.21 RC
• [15:20] Bridie Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-5764
• [15:20] Squirrel Wood: pointy pointer pointing at the wrong point ?
• [15:20] Alexa Linden: relates to vwr-1755
• [15:20] Alexa Linden: the chat on shirt, etc bug?
• [15:20] Cummere Mayo: I can repo that one
• [15:21] Alexa Linden: the 2 monitor or SL off the screen bug?
• [15:22] Bridie Linden: could be, but this is specific to media urls
• [15:23] Squirrel Wood:  :: ~EA~Ertaly ZHAO "Neko": Could not find animation 'neko hover' :: - Please fix the configuration notecard of your ao script
• [15:23] Selena Beale: Break your AO?
• [15:24] Bridie Linden: I think we need a clearer repro
• [15:24] Gellan Glenelg: hi teagan
• [15:24] Alexa Linden: Teagan!
• [15:24] Bridie Linden: looks @ 5573
• [15:24] Cummere Mayo: hello teagan
• [15:24] Teagan Linden: Hi Alexa :)
• [15:24] Teagan Linden: Hi all
• [15:24] Bridie Linden: Hi Teagan, welcome
• [15:24] Teagan Linden: ty
• [15:24] Nya Linden: Hey Teagan
• [15:24] Alexa Linden: I'll run the last one through with a co-worker and if all else, ask for more ifo
• [15:24] Bridie Linden: We're triagin': https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Bug_triage/Wednesday_Agenda
• [15:24] Alexa Linden: info*
• [15:25] Alexa Linden: I think I may know what this is but need to check
• [15:25] Bridie Linden: ty Alexa
• [15:25] Selena Beale: Vedui' Teagan.. erm.. hello *smiles*
• [15:25] Bridie Linden: NExt up
• [15:25] Bridie Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-9733
• [15:25] Alexa Linden: Mini Map can not regain focus with Statstics window in focus
• [15:25] Squirrel Wood: repros for rc5
• [15:26] Gellan Glenelg: I think it's a dupe
• [15:26] Bridie Linden: smells like a dupe
• [15:26] Joeseph Albanese: I agree with Gellan looks the same
• [15:26] Selena Beale: Just did it.. and yeah..
• [15:26] Aimee Trescothick: heh that yeah, def dupe
• [15:26] Cummere Mayo: yeah looks the same ANd it repos for me on the nightly
• [15:27] Selena Beale: And the RC repos it..
• [15:27] Gellan Glenelg: so, change my "related" to dupe?
• [15:27] Alexa Linden: yup - I'll resolve
• [15:27] Bambers Linden: as I recall so does 1.20 and 1.19
• [15:27] Bambers Linden: (I'm not 100% on that though)
• [15:27] Squirrel Wood: while we are on it, the stats window also fails to remember its position
• [15:27] Cummere Mayo: lol and the typing but i think is repoing for me right now i think, unless teagan is writing me a 4 minute long paragrpaph
• [15:28] Joeseph Albanese: War and Peace
• [15:28] Bridie Linden: Next up,VWR-9518 - is already fixed
• [15:28] Gellan Glenelg: Squirrel, that's https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-9311
• [15:29] Squirrel Wood: ^^
• [15:30] Cummere Mayo: I almsot wonder if its a driver or overheat issue
• [15:30] Bridie Linden: We're down to the 0 votes issues...
• [15:30] Alexa Linden: weeeeeee!
• [15:30] Bridie Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-9261
• [15:30] Cummere Mayo: for the texture alpha one
• [15:31] Alexa Linden: this is an interesting one and ya, a picture would help
• [15:31] Squirrel Wood: delay... yes. repros. yellow glow stuff... not.
• [15:31] Ellla McMahon: this was reported in the last day [2]
• [15:31] Astra Thorne: so tittilating!
• [15:31] Ellla McMahon: is it the same issue ?
• [15:31] Alexa Linden: whoa
• [15:31] Bridie Linden: It's the new Happier SL viewer
• [15:31] Bridie Linden: Speaking of happy, hellooo Garn!
• [15:31] Gellan Glenelg: that reminds me of trying to run SL on second monitor, with < 65536 colours
• [15:32] Bridie Linden: Both yellow issues on ATI
• [15:32] Squirrel Wood: gives snacks to Garn
• [15:32] Astra Thorne: Nuffin better than standing on the furniture! :P
• [15:32] Cummere Mayo: yep why im wondering if its a driver issue
• [15:32] Selena Beale: Probably driver..
• [15:32] Cummere Mayo: especially since i think they run on same driver set
• [15:32] Bridie Linden: nods
• [15:32] Joeseph Albanese: one is nvidia the other is ati?
• [15:32] Ellla McMahon: different drivers
• [15:32] Squirrel Wood: driver update. yes.
• [15:32] Squirrel Wood: definitely should try that
• [15:32] Bridie Linden: shall we link up?
• [15:32] Zen Linden: i'd say yes
• [15:32] Selena Beale: Would be my verdict..
• [15:32] Alexa Linden: ya I'll link and suggest driver updates
• [15:33] Zen Linden: looks like a driver bug
• [15:33] Bridie Linden: i think it m ight be a driver issue
• [15:33] Bridie Linden: :P
• [15:33] Selena Beale: swirls a mallet "And if they don't.. I'll hit them with my mallet o' shame" nods
• [15:33] Cummere Mayo: votes link, and resolve with nmi try updating drivers
• [15:33] Zen Linden: probably worth importing and seeing if we can repro on an x1600 we have lying around
• [15:33] Bridie Linden: Okies @ Zen
• [15:33] Zen Linden: and on the latest drivers
• [15:33] Bridie Linden: looks @ Bambers
• [15:33] Alexa Linden: will do
• [15:34] Bridie Linden: Next:
• [15:34] Bridie Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-9077
• [15:34] Astra Thorne: Colton...i was trying to sit on ya So did not see u there....
• [15:34] Bambers Linden: nods
• [15:35] Bridie Linden: Ellla and Cummere already commented - ty
• [15:35] Colton Linden: lol
• [15:35] Cummere Mayo:  :)
• [15:35] Squirrel Wood: with RC5 I do experience short "freezes" of sorts in busy sims. but no long freezes
• [15:35] Bridie Linden: let's resolve as NMI and see if rickk gets back to us
• [15:35] Squirrel Wood: "stuttering graphics"
• [15:35] Alexa Linden: will do
• [15:35] Bridie Linden: Rickk's issue seems to be with just one other av
• [15:35] Bridie Linden:  !
• [15:36] Selena Beale: Really bad PC? Suggest full system upgrade?
• [15:36] Bridie Linden: Resolve: system upgrade
• [15:36] Zen Linden: suspects overheating
• [15:36] Zen Linden: has similar issues with his mbp
• [15:36] Garn Conover: pfft!
• [15:37] Alexa Linden: eyes Garn in the chair
• [15:37] Garn Conover: nope
• [15:37] Garn Conover: darn
• [15:37] Squirrel Wood: do not sit in that chair over there. it may bite.
• [15:37] Bridie Linden: NExt
• [15:37] Bridie Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-9305
• [15:37] Garn Conover: i need to finish my bed one of these days and get Bridie to keep a copy here for me :)
• [15:37] Gellan Glenelg: that looks like the (now fixed) beacons bug
• [15:38] Bridie Linden: I'd be happy to Garn
• [15:38] Squirrel Wood: 9305... sometimes I do find that textures just refuse to load at all. or do not fully load. no matter what you do.
• [15:38] Alexa Linden: still aproblem?
• [15:38] Bambers Linden: it does sound like beacons
• [15:38] Alexa Linden: with latest RC?
• [15:38] Alexa Linden: ya it does
• [15:38] Bridie Linden: nods
• [15:38] Selena Beale: I agree with Cummere..
• [15:38] Gellan Glenelg: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8876
• [15:38] Selena Beale: Cause I do?
• [15:38] Selena Beale: Yeah..
• [15:38] Bridie Linden: Ty Gellan
• [15:39] Selena Beale: ANd it does look like the issue.. that supposedly is solved.
• [15:39] Bridie Linden: Next, also with 0 votes
• [15:39] Bridie Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-9313
• [15:40] Selena Beale: Umm... hmmm..
• [15:40] Squirrel Wood: the client may take a couple moments after logging in to update the presence information and mute and other lists... which is what I assume causes this
• [15:40] Squirrel Wood: patience is a virtue though
• [15:40] Squirrel Wood: ^^
• [15:41] Selena Beale: Yeah.. I'd say you need to have patience..
• [15:41] Selena Beale: ANd why would you need to look at your mute list just after logging in?
• [15:42] Cummere Mayo: only reason i can think of is if you share an account
• [15:42] Cummere Mayo: or yours was hijacked at one point
• [15:42] Selena Beale: Which is.. umm..
• [15:42] Gellan Glenelg: I don't see how it's different from VWR-1321
• [15:42] Selena Beale: I don't keep a mute list.. anymore
• [15:42] Alexa Linden: I can't repro in the latest RC
• [15:43] Bridie Linden: me either
• [15:43] Alexa Linden: still a problem?
• [15:43] Squirrel Wood: pretend-mute is much more fun :p
• [15:43] Bridie Linden: nods
• [15:43] Bridie Linden: Next...
• [15:43] Bridie Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-9336
• [15:43] Alexa Linden: wtf.jpg
• [15:43] Alexa Linden: lolol
• [15:44] Squirrel Wood: there is only one post process quality setting. and that is High :p
• [15:44] Garn Conover: this is a really old Jira
• [15:44] Bridie Linden: i can't repro
• [15:44] Garn Conover: either its been done b4 or its been on the list that long
• [15:44] Gellan Glenelg: squirrel, when I put slider to left it shows "Low", not "high"
• [15:44] Selena Beale: I like tht.. what's it mean if it's turn on? Massivle high? Explosive?
• [15:44] Zen Linden: needs more info
• [15:44] Zen Linden: what did they do before that
• [15:44] Alexa Linden: I can't with the latest RC
• [15:44] Garn Conover: Zen *points to Gellan* lol
• [15:45] Alexa Linden: I can get low and high
• [15:45] Squirrel Wood: does it repro with the latest rc ?
• [15:45] Squirrel Wood: nmi
• [15:45] Alexa Linden: nope
• [15:45] Bambers Linden: I see left = low, right = high
• [15:45] Selena Beale: Umm nope
• [15:45] Bridie Linden: resolve 'can't repro'
• [15:45] Alexa Linden: k
• [15:45] Squirrel Wood: try latest rc ?
• [15:45] Bridie Linden: Next
• [15:45] Bridie Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-9376
• [15:45] Alexa Linden: yuppers :)
• [15:45] Selena Beale: Sorry "SOL" *smiles* and yeah..
• [15:46] Bambers Linden: cannot repro squirrel
• [15:46] Bridie Linden: Hey Bambers, did QA get a chance to look @ PPC perf?
• [15:46] Bambers Linden: (latest rc and then some <- )
• [15:46] Squirrel Wood: ppc... get better cpu. and everything else around it. ^^
• [15:46] Selena Beale: THey complain about that? I'm at under 10 every day..
• [15:47] Bridie Linden: Bambers?
• [15:47] Bambers Linden: looki'
• [15:47] Garn Conover: thats normal fps for a 7 series
• [15:48] Garn Conover: i maybe got 5-15 with mine
• [15:48] Bambers Linden: PPC leopard I've seen loss in performance
• [15:48] Squirrel Wood: I can force my gtx-280 below 5 fps if I go camping with 512 draw distance
• [15:48] Garn Conover: pets his new card
• [15:48] Garn Conover: lol
• [15:48] Cummere Mayo: i noticed a performace drop in mine on the whole 1.21 series. and a stability drop too but
• [15:48] Bambers Linden: I sometimes get 15 on a good day, but tbh RC is better than it used to be
• [15:48] Bridie Linden: nods
• [15:49] Bridie Linden: well, this issue was reported with 1.21.3...
• [15:49] Cummere Mayo: is hoping 1.22 is MUCH better
• [15:49] Zen Linden: optimization pass coming soon in q4. Lot's of low hanging fruit the graphics devs hope to get to
• [15:49] Bridie Linden: Let's ask Vivienne to try with RC5
• [15:49] Squirrel Wood: ^^
• [15:49] Zen Linden: 1.22 and 1.23 will have a number of possible stability fixes. We'll see how they do.
• [15:49] Alexa Linden: kk
• [15:50] Bridie Linden: We're about to call 1.21 a wrap...
• [15:50] Zen Linden: crosses fingers
• [15:50] Garn Conover: when when!
• [15:50] Squirrel Wood: looking forward to 2.0 ^^
• [15:50] Aimee Trescothick: chicken fajita wrap?
• [15:50] Garn Conover: lol
• [15:50] Bridie Linden: crosses toes
• [15:50] Aimee Trescothick: steak maybe?
• [15:50] Squirrel Wood: tacos!
• [15:50] Bridie Linden: peanut butter tofu
• [15:50] Garn Conover: crosses wings.. so there!
• [15:51] Bridie Linden: ty Garn, i'm sure that will help!
• [15:51] Bridie Linden: grnis
• [15:51] Joeseph Albanese: chopped linden
• [15:51] Bridie Linden: *grins even
• [15:51] Object: Glod: Sarts for all!
• [15:51] Bridie Linden: heh Joeseph
• [15:51] Garn Conover: and base idea for when?
• [15:51] Object: No: more Glod Sarts for you!
• [15:51] Bridie Linden: Next up, on Linux
• [15:51] Bridie Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-9382
• [15:52] Squirrel Wood: 2.0? before xmas. definitely before xmas. though not this year :p
• [15:52] Squirrel Wood: not just on linux. I experience that quite often on windows
• [15:52] Squirrel Wood: and some sounds will never fully load and decode.
• [15:52] Bridie Linden: Squirrel, o collector o sounds!
• [15:52] Bridie Linden: Please comment?
• [15:52] Squirrel Wood: I am getting close to 10,000 ^^
• [15:52] Garn Conover: you'll know we are close when we get into 4 digit version codes
• [15:52] Alexa Linden: ya, I see this normally too
• [15:53] Bridie Linden: Resolve as ?
• [15:53] Alexa Linden: .........lag?
• [15:54] Alexa Linden: it can depend on so many things it's hard to reproduce every time
• [15:54] Bridie Linden: Mark as 'last triaged'?
• [15:54] Bridie Linden: yeah
• [15:54] Alexa Linden: ya
• [15:54] Bridie Linden: Next
• [15:54] Bridie Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8971
• [15:55] Alexa Linden: NMI
• [15:55] Bridie Linden: nods
• [15:55] Alexa Linden: since Ellla already posted
• [15:55] Joeseph Albanese: Bear: ALAKAZAM!
• [15:55] Alexa Linden: clean re-install?
• [15:55] Bridie Linden: sure
• [15:55] Joeseph Albanese: Bear: Hmm...is something burning?
• [15:55] Cummere Mayo: wotn fix it
• [15:55] Joeseph Albanese: Bear: ACK! Not again!
• [15:55] Bridie Linden: Next
• [15:55] Joeseph Albanese: Bear: Abrakadabra!
• [15:55] Bridie Linden: Poor bear
• [15:55] Bridie Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-9343
• [15:55] Joeseph Albanese: Bear: If you could be so kind and click the handle of that extinguisher and put me out.
• [15:55] Joeseph Albanese: Bear: I do believe I need a tad bit more practice :-D
• [15:56] Aimee Trescothick: aww soggy bears
• [15:56] Bridie Linden: 9343 is a feature req...
• [15:56] Gellan Glenelg: cummere's right - feature request
• [15:56] Bridie Linden: but given that there are work arounds...
• [15:56] Bridie Linden: I'm tempted towards 'won't fix'
• [15:56] Cummere Mayo: actually ild still support this request even with the workarounds
• [15:56] Bambers Linden: not exactly new user friendly, though
• [15:56] Alexa Linden: expected behavior - request filing a feature request
• [15:57] Nya Linden: I recommend we close with "can use esc"
• [15:57] Nya Linden: as a comment
• [15:57] Bridie Linden: or waht Alexa said
• [15:57] Nya Linden: +1 Alexa
• [15:57] Squirrel Wood: esc will close the chat bar if it has focus.
• [15:57] Cummere Mayo: cant we jsut bump it to feature request?
• [15:57] Alexa Linden: esc esc out, enter to bring it back
• [15:57] Bridie Linden: We could Cummere...
• [15:57] Bambers Linden: I'm not so sure - I think we can note the steps to close, but a menu item to toggle it will be beter for new users
• [15:58] Cummere Mayo: thats my reasning too bambers
• [15:58] Aimee Trescothick: can't close it without resetting the camera that way though
• [15:58] Cummere Mayo: *reasoning
• [15:58] Bridie Linden: Let's add comment and move to Feature REq
• [15:58] Bridie Linden: Glod Sarts to Bambers, Cummere and Aimee
• [15:58] Squirrel Wood: the ui team is trying their best to declutter the menus... adding more to them is kinda counterproductive ^^
• [15:58] Bambers Linden: yeah - it's obvoiously a problem if people are making the effort to report it...
• [15:58] Alexa Linden: DING DING DING
• [15:58] Alexa Linden: Today's Triage has been brought to you by the sugar fueled off of Linden Lab and sponsored by Twix
• [15:58] Bridie Linden: maybe advanced menu?
• [15:58] Alexa Linden: office*
• [15:58] Bridie Linden: hooray!
• [15:59] Bambers Linden: why advanced?
• [15:59] Bridie Linden: Many thanks!
• [15:59] Bambers Linden: new users would want it
• [15:59] Nya Linden: maybe a little x in the corner.
• [15:59] Cummere Mayo: thats true squirell but some times you still need to add things
• [15:59] Joeseph Albanese: Have a good week all
• [15:59] Bambers Linden: View menu
• [15:59] Bridie Linden: just a thought to not clutter other menus Bambers
• [15:59] Bambers Linden:  ;)
• [15:59] Cummere Mayo: and i think view menue is a great spot for it
• [15:59] Bridie Linden: You all rock! have a great week!
• [15:59] Nya Linden: ty!
• [15:59] Squirrel Wood: Have fun!
• [15:59] Bambers Linden: you too bridie
• [15:59] Alexa Linden: Thank you all for coming and please drive safely