Open Development User Group/Archive/2011-02-09

13:02	Office Orb	mail_to set to oz@lindenlab.com
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	[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]	oz, you are rotating it with 1 script?
		or did you use 2 prims?
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	1 script in an invisible root at the center
		it's actually 16 linked prims
13:03	[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]	I would be curious to see that 1 script rotation code for 2 axis
		ok, meeting time
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	it's full perm... have a look
		Our agenda is quite full:
		https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Open_Development_User_Group#Agenda
13:04		VWR-24487
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24487 VWR-24487 llurlentry_stub.cpp:196: error: deprecated conversion from string constant to 'char*'
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	I meant to talk w/ Q about this before the meeting, but that fell through the cracks
		We will get a fix for this done pretty soon one way or another
	[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]	dont mind me im snapshotting my ui so i can show something to fredrik..
13:05	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	we're currently planning our hackathon for getting everything converted to VS 2010, which will want this
		it's tentatively scheduled for the end of next week, I believe
	[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]	Are we invited?
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	I will be asking around to see if we can figure out how open devs can contribute
13:06		if nothing else, the repos for all the open stuff we'll be working on will be in public
		so you'll be able to see and test what we're doing
		I"ll try to do better than that, though.
		stay tuned
13:07		If it's really bothering people, we could commit the temporary fix we have now, but I am going to want to replace it
		I'll leave that item on our agenda for next time too
13:08		next..... OPEN-1 - perhaps Jonathan can give us his view of the status of that
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-1 OPEN-1 autobuild does not support use with Visual Studio Express
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]	so will this mean going forward everyone will need to sue VS 2010?
		use*
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	yes, tank
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]	ok thx
	[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη]	starting with 2.6 right?
13:09	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	right
	[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη]	kk
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]	so libs wont be affected?
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	well, all of you that work on windows :-)
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]	well yeah :P
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	all libs too
		not a small job
	[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη]	ouch
13:10		so as soon as you have the libs changed, we'll need to be using 2010 on any revision?
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	Jonathan ... where do we stand w/ VS Express ?
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]	will the old libs be in place for a while to give people time to transision over?
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	the old downloads will still be there for old versions
	[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]	My version runs, with that hack of moving the build directory
	[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη]	oh good ok
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]	ok thatll work then, thx
	[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]	I would like to hear from other people about how theirs runs
13:11		WOlfpup and Nickyp
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	so the problem there is that the fact that indra is no longer in the tree above the executable means that it can't find its settings file, right?
	[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]	yes
		not the saved settings, but the initial ones
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	I assume that the Pro users don't have this and can run the exe where it is built?
13:12	[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]	I know wolfpup uses pro, dunno about Nickyp
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	no takers...
		ok, well, we'll want to sort that out, but I suspect that it'll be pretty easy
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]	hasnt used 2010 yet, so doesnt know how its different
	[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]	why the compiler would make a difference is a mystery
13:13		Tank, this is about autobuild
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]	ahh ok
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	it may be that some command is not conditionalized correctly when setting up those files
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]	maybe but as we don't have the build inside indra/ anymore having code in the viewer that tests for that is asking for bugs
	[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]	Robin, can you autobuild on Express as another test case?
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	yes, clearly we'll want to change that
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]	i've only got express in 2005/2010 versions
13:14	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	05 for now, please
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]	and yes i can run some other tests
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	thanks
	[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]	Oz, did you update the source with the /u (?) xml fix
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	not yet, but I'll do that after this meeting
		next issue is OPEN-4
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-4 OPEN-4 As an Open Source Developer, I would like to use Fmod in the autobuild system if i have the needed files already
13:15	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	the trick here is that we need at least new instructions on where to put the fmod files under the build tree
	[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]	that is just small change, right?
13:16	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	ideally, I'd like to go one better and do an autobuild re-package project so that you can check that out, build it, and you'll have a local archive that your viewer build can use
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]	at one point (snowglobe 1.x) we had an optinon were we could pass a var with FMOD_SDK_DIR and it just used that to find all the bits it needed
	[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]	interesting, is that failing for all platforms?
13:17		FMOD logic had to be changed quite a bit to it to require being used only in private mode
		thinks he should look into that one
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	would _love_ your help, Merov - let's talk after this
13:18	[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]	is there something with having "Wolf" in your name and being unable to spell?
	[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη]	I lol'd
	[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]	has to parse comments twice to make sense of them
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	we've got a lot of *wolf* names on this project... not sure what that tells us...
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]	oh man, theres to meny wolves out there...
13:19	[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη]	we have a lot of 'wolfs' on the phoenix project too >.>
		they're taking over
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	I even saw a "Wolf Linden" on jira today
	[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη]	haha
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	I once worked for a 12 person company, 5 of whom were named Dave....
		anyway....
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]	lol
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	yay
	[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]	Wolf Linden is part of snowstorm
	[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη]	lol
13:20	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	once open-1 and open-4 have at least reasonable workarounds, we'll merge autobuild
	[http://my.secondlife.com/tonya.souther Tonya Souther]	knows a David Trout who solved that problem: he goes by "Fish".
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	Next major item
13:21		Cummere did a pass through VWR and came up with a whole bunch of build-related issues as candidates to be moved to OPEN
		round of applause for Cummere....
	[http://my.secondlife.com/kitty.barnett Kitty Barnett]	yay!
	[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]	Hoooo!
13:22	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	So... we're going to zoom through the list and decide if we still care about each issue, and if so how much and move to OPEN if it's enough
	[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]	we moved some from SNOW too (still with Cummere's help)
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	otherwise, we'll just close 'em and forget 'em
	[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]	im not very confident about this list ><
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	that's ok... it's having a list that's useful
		first vwr-3621
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3621 VWR-3621 Parser Stack Depth Exceeded needs its own error message.
13:23	[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]	case in point
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	If I'm not mistaken this is an LSL issue?
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]	LSL compile is server side now
	[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]	right, not an OPEN issue then
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	nor VWR
13:24	[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]	which project should that be moved to?
	[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]	sorry i have a hard time telling the differance between building and scripting sometimes
		hence part of why im very not sure of the list
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	SVC, I guess - that will get it on their triage
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]	SVC i would say
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	no problem
		either way it'll be out of our bucket
	[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]	volunteer to do the JIRA move
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	go
		vwr-9557
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-9557 VWR-9557 a standalone build fails on Fedora with NVIDIA graphics driver: 'glActiveTextureARB' was not declared in this scope
13:25	[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]	i was told this is a lib issue
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	but there seems to be a patch...
13:26		this overlaps with the headers issue we were discussing earlier, Merov
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	glh_linear?
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	I'd say move it to OPEN, change to Open status
		right
13:27	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]	the gl.h headers are distro supplied and if you use the nvidia supplied GL header you get the above build bug
	[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]	there's a related gl issue
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	ah, so a different issue form the glh_linear one
		*from
13:28	[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]	digs for the JIRA
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	maybe we need to make our package that installs the nvidia headers detect if the system already has better ones?
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]	i though the GL headers came with the GLX you had installed? you don't just ship them around
	[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]	OPEN-14
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-14 OPEN-14 we really need to decide how to handle glh/glh_linear.h for standalone cases
13:29	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]	glh_linear is different
		thats a standalone file that has no home anywhere
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	bring this one in and let's move on
13:30	[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]	moves VWR-9557 to OPEN
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	vwr-13793
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-13793 VWR-13793 Full support for Linux 64-bit
	[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη]	our users have been screaming for this one ^
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]	ya
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	well, this isn't going to happen soon, I'm sorry to say
	[http://my.secondlife.com/tonya.souther Tonya Souther]	keep it on the radar?
	[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη]	that's what I keep saying to them lol
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	I'm ok with importing it, and with taking patches to make it happen from the community though
13:31	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]	64bit support for all OSs at some point tin eh future would be nice
	[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]	shrugs...
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	yes... would be nice....
	[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]	I was told to make a list thats what i did... i wasnt told to weed out pipedreams :P
	[http://my.secondlife.com/tonya.souther Tonya Souther]	I'm happy to let the Linux folks find the 64-bitness issues before I tackle OS X.
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]	but i agree theres more pressing things to work on at this time
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	there are really only ever 3 priorities: 1) what I'm doing now, 2) what I'll do next, 3) what I probably won't get to
13:32	[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]	32 bit mostly works okay on 64 bit os...
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]	64 bit is not that broken, many of us have been doing linux 64 bit builds for years so the code itsself is in generaly ok shape for that
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	One of the problems is that 32bit viewer can't use 64bit GStreamer.
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	ok vwr-19643
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-19643 VWR-19643 linux libndofdev incompatible to kernel >=2.6.33 (was: spacenavigator does not wok under x.org 1.8.0, udev and fedora 13)
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	ducks
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]	there was a patch for libndofdev for new kernels
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	this has been on my plate forever... mea culpa
	[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη]	lol
13:33	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	I need to repackage and build the new version...
		just keeps not makeing it to #1
		please import it, Merov
		leave it assigned to me
		vwr-20466
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-20466 VWR-20466 viewer-external uuid.lib: debugging information corrupt
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	don't put this issue on some stack the, ... better a FIFO
		*then
13:34	[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]	moves VWR-19643 to OPEN
	[http://my.secondlife.com/jayr.cela JayR Cela]	my opinion / SL / QuickTime / Linux / do not play well together - PERIOD !!!!!! / is a waste of time
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]	uuid.lib corrupt is caused my mixing your SDKs up
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	QuickTime isn't used on Linux, JayR
13:35	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]	i suspect its a win 7 user on VC2005 using SDK 7.x
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	the reporter was you, Robin...
13:36	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]	forgot i filed that one
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	Can we just close this on the assumption that it either : was and incorrect setup, or: will be fixed by 2010 move?
	[http://my.secondlife.com/jayr.cela JayR Cela]	@(br/ no quicktime does work with linux - watch Hulu.com on a regular basis / Quicktime and SL media webkit does not
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]	its a build tool chain set up issue, so close please
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	thank you
13:37	[http://my.secondlife.com/jayr.cela JayR Cela]	oops sorry my mistake Hulu uses flash
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	I mean, the Linux viewer doesn't use QuickTime to view mediea streams.
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]	no wonder these issues are all very familar
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	It uses GSTreamer instead.
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	vwr-20994
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-20994 VWR-20994 Add a 'printbuilddirs' command to develop.py
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	I believe that autobuild essentially already has this, and it replaces develop.py
13:38	[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]	hmm robin i think for the next round im just gonna look for issues created by you >.>
	[http://my.secondlife.com/jayr.cela JayR Cela]	well Quicktime is as old as dirt / time to dump it / HTML5 should be seriously looked at
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]	doesnt webkit already support html5?
		or partially at least
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	focus, people....
13:39	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]	sorry
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	I'd say close 20994
	[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]	+1
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	won't finish because we're moving to autobuild
		vwr-23304
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23304 VWR-23304 Allow choosing between system headers/libraries and LL supplied ones per package
13:40	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	should go to OPEN
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	but I think it may be the same as open-6
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-6 OPEN-6 Add support to autobuild for local archives as dependencies and as targets
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	so move it, but link it to that one as related?
13:41	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	let me read OPEN-6
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	we can take a deeper look when we actually do them
	[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]	resolve as dupe rather, no?
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	maybe
13:42	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	I don't quite understand what OPEN-6 is asking for, so I can't tell whether it's the same
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	one thing I don't want to do is proliferate command line switches more than we really need
		it's a little silly
13:43		the package/dependency mechanism only supports getting files remotely
		it supports http and scp urls, but not file urls
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	ah
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	almost certainly a really easy fix if anyone wants to flex some python muscles
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	but how would I choose how to fulfil a dependency?
13:44	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	link them and let's move on
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	ok
	[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]	does the move and link
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	you change your autobuild.xml file (or copy it to a temp and use that so that you don't accidentally check it in)
		vwr-23465
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23465 VWR-23465 !standalone build error due to missing libfreetype.so. libpangoft2-1.0.so: undefined reference to `FT_Realloc'
13:45	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	Gentoo specific?
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	yes
13:46	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	anyone know if it's still a problem?
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	or rather, doesn't occur on debian-like systems
		dunno if Gentoo is the only affected one
	[http://my.secondlife.com/tonya.souther Tonya Souther]	Techwolf might, Oz, dunno anyone else. But all the world is not Ubuntu, or even Debian.
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	right....
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]	gentoo might use different compile flags for freetype?
13:47	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	import it and assign back to techwolf ... the sources for those builds should soon be in public repos if they are not already
		he can work out the upgrade/fix
		and then we'll take it in
13:48	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	dunno if it's that easy
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	VWR-23706
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23706 VWR-23706 current snowstorm building script terminated due to "collect2: ld terminated with signal 9 [Killed] "
13:49	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	can anyone tell what this is?
	[http://my.secondlife.com/tonya.souther Tonya Souther]	Looks like a hang that he sent a kill to.
	[http://my.secondlife.com/jessica.lyon JεŞŞⓘcα ﾚƔⓞη]	never seen that error
	[http://my.secondlife.com/tonya.souther Tonya Souther]	Be nice if he'd actually included some description.
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	close it
		not reproducible
13:50	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	-DSERVER:BOOL=OFF ... wtf?
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	VWR-23826
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23826 VWR-23826 LLDir integration test fails with "failed to write to test file '/tmp/getNextFileInDir02//file1.abc'"
13:51	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	I think you guys fixed that one at some point.
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	that test has been cleaned up....
		would you take that one and either repro on current builds or close it, please, B?
	[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]	I think so, resolved as "Fixed"?
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	I think so
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	ok... let's do that then
13:52		VWR-23961
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23961 VWR-23961 Add fmodex in FindFMOD cmake module
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]	i think i still have a failing test, could be this one, i'll reopen if it is so
	[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]	Another FMOD one...
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]	yea merge/dup as its all the same work required to solve anyway
13:53	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	move it and link to open-4
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-4 OPEN-4 As an Open Source Developer, I would like to use Fmod in the autobuild system if i have the needed files already
	[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]	does that
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	VWR-24366
13:54	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	that's already in STORM ?
	[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]	that got moved
		between when i wrote the list and now
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	ok... leave it
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]	STORM-981
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/STORM-981 STORM-981 CMAKE_EXE_LINKER_FLAGS not honored when linking the viewer binary if -DLL_TESTS:BOOL=ON
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	VWR-24375
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24375 VWR-24375 link phase secondlife-bin fails; supplied LL-lib libuuid.so.1 needs to be removed.
13:56	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	not clear to me what the problem or the fix is....
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	already has a dup in OPEN ?
		OPEN-16
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-16 OPEN-16 link phase secondlife-bin fails; supplied LL-lib libuuid.so.1 needs to be upgraded
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	good catch...close as dup then
13:57	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	Ah, that's one of those we moved from SNOW
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	VWR-24410
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24410 VWR-24410 settings.xml not always updated during incremental builds, causing "WARNING: get: Control UpdaterMaximumBandwidth not found." and crash
	[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]	is this kinda thing an open issue or not? so i know for future ref
13:58	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	yeah
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	yes
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	probably a missing dependency declaration
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	smells related to the settings problem Jonathan is having .... move it
	[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]	kay i wanst sure
	[http://my.secondlife.com/jonathan.yap Jonathan]	it's only related by name
13:59	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	VWR-24484
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24484 VWR-24484 libmedia_plugin_webkit.so doesn't find libqgif.so on standalone, all web features defunct
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	standalone-specific, so OPEN, I'd say
14:00	Office Orb	Your timer has expired!
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	(might also be Gentoo specific)
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]	no its not, its general standalone issue
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	I guess, but there's so much custom stuff in this I don't know what we'll do with it....
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]	its related to how you build llqtwebkit
	[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]	well i hope that list was good? ill try and get another done in the next week
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]	-rpath is your friend
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	VWR-24594
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24594 VWR-24594 Problems with develop.py and vstool when trying to setup new development environment with Visual Studio 2010
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	move to OPEN (without looking)
14:01	[http://my.secondlife.com/tonya.souther Tonya Souther]	the rest are VS 2010 too.
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]	why not close it? itsll be bypased with autobuild
		right?
14:02	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	24594 we should close, I think
	[http://my.secondlife.com/merov.linden Merovingian]	just moved it
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	the next two move,
		that's ok
14:03	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	ew, cascaded titles in description
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	the rest, move and we'll sort them out in the 2010 process
	[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]	did i do okay with that list oz?
14:04	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	I'm going to leave item 4 from the agenda on for next time: Other Autobuild Issues Triage: OPEN-11 Change STANDALONE to something less confusing OPEN-17 Upgrade builds to use OpenJPEG 1.4 (and create autobuild configuration for the lib)
	Office Orb	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-11 OPEN-11 Change STANDALONE to something better.
		http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-17 OPEN-17 64bit standalone build clients do not correctly upload textures with alpha
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	Outstanding, Cummere
	[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]	k ill take another pass through when i can find time then
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	there was only one there that didn't belong, and it didn't belong in VWR either!!
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]	weve been using openjpeg 1.4 w/o much issue in FS and phoenix
14:05	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	Thank you everyone, and especially Merov for volunteering to do the Jira mechanics!
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]	yes thats an old buggy openjpeg issue that i fixed
		OPEN-17 close it with use a recent openjpeg
	[http://my.secondlife.com/cummere.mayo Cummere Mayo]	oh oz before i go... I sent the ca directly to you, so it may need forwarded... asumming its acceptable as is?
14:06	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]	thx Os and Mervo for taking your time with us
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	I'm going to get an autobuild-ized openjpeg repo up soon (unless someone else wants to do it?)
		I'll get it Cummere.... and can forward just fine... thank you
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/tankmaster.finesmith Phoenix-FirestormViewer Rocks]	Oz*
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]	just don't use the 1.3 tarball as a base
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	no, we'll get the new one
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]	thats svn only i think
		or git
14:07	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	autobuild can pull from svn
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	git?
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	adding support for git should be easy if we have to do that
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/boroondas.gupte বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে]	ah, the upstream repo
	style="white-space:nowrap;"|[http://my.secondlife.com/robin.cornelius Robin Cornelius]	ah sorry thats the debian repro not offical openjpeg
	[http://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Oz Linden]	Maybe our Phoenix friends can help us get that set up?
14:08	Office Orb	End transcription
	[http://my.secondlife.com/tonya.souther Tonya Souther]	We can probably wrangle that, I think.