Community Tools User Group/17-Feb-2011

12:58	Torben Bailey	Hi Rand
	Rand	Howdy everyone
	draconis.neurocam	Hello Rand
	Irene Muni	Hi rand
	Adamburp Adamczyk	aloha
	Irene Muni	Rand*
12:59	Cummere Mayo	hello rand....
		hides the pitchforks
	Irene Muni	Daniel and Bronson. cats toguether XD
	Rand	heh
	Cummere Mayo	meows?
	Lisa Fossett	waves collective hello to everyone
	Rand	so our agenda is in the wiki https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Tools_User_Group#Agenda
	Amanda Linden	hey all, looks like we can get started.
	Cummere Mayo	on second thought
	Amanda Linden	rand take it away!
	Cummere Mayo	why hide it
	Rand	ok
13:00		So I want to fill everyone in on our plans for the SL Knowledge Base
		As part of the launch of the new community platform....
		we're moving the KB from the wiki to the new platform
		Plenty of stuff will remain on the wiki
	Amanda Linden	you can read more here..btw. vogt's post yesterday.
13:01		http://blogs.secondlife.com/community/features/blog/2011/02/16/a-new-community-platform-coming-march-2nd
	Rand	ah yes, thx amanda
		If you like, I can go into more detail on our plans...
	Irene Muni	please :)
	Rand	re: the KB
	Torben Bailey	can you confirm if it´s Lithium?
	Rand	OK, so ...
13:02		Amanda, do you want to field Torben's question
	Cummere Mayo	shudders at the idea of lithium
	Amanda Linden	yeah, gimme a second.
	Rand	Anyway, re the KB...
		Mos t of the articles currently in https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Category:Knowledge_Base
		will be moving
		We're dealing with them in batches, tho.
	Amanda Linden	yes, it is on the lithium platform.
13:03	Cummere Mayo	oh god
		so much for any semblance of privacy
	Rand	So, initially we're moving the most popular articles
	Amanda Linden	cummere, let's hear the rest of what rand has to say...
	Torben Bailey	Ignore my feet and have a seat Blondin
	Rand	and, as time goes on, we will migrate the restof the articles
	Lord of Dee	Why are you moving the KB? It hasn't long been moved.
13:04	Irene Muni	questions now or at the end?
	Rand	Lord - the idea is to integrate it with the rest of the community tools
		forums, answers, etc.
		Lithium provides good ways to promote threads from (e.g.) forums to KB
13:05		SOME information will remain on wiki...
	Cummere Mayo	><
	Amanda Linden	irene, let's give rand the floor and save questions for the end.
	Lord of Dee	Thanks Rand so we should improved consistency
	Irene Muni	Great Amanda :)
	Rand	Official policy and product information that is not appropriate for community contributions; these articles are kept in the “Linden Lab Official” namespace on the wiki. Content for the Viewer 2 help system, including the comprehensive glossary. LSL documentation, including language and function references Other developer documentation such as that for APIs, advanced content creation, and the like. Information on open source projects, including Project Snowstorm. Second Life Viewer Release Notes and Server Release Notes.
	Amanda Linden	(thanks irene)
	Rand	(sorry for the big chat text)
		:-)
	Jeremy Linden	Blondin, do you want me to find you a chair?
13:06	Rand	In an nutshell, KB info thatis relevant for most users will go to the new community platform
	Adamburp Adamczyk	i gav blondin a seat
	Rand	"Official" policy & pricing info plus dev. info will stay on wiki
	Nathan Adored	wow, buzy place this time
	Rand	So, with the move of the KB, the need for the Flagged Revisions extension goes away....
13:07	Torben Bailey	*YAY*
	Rand	and thus we are planning on removing it.
		hehe
		It has been somewhat problematic, true...
	Irene Muni	yes LOL
	Rand	That's basically all I have at this point...
13:08	Irene Muni	Is there any plan about the translation of LL Official documents and KB documents?
	Qie	So... I hope Lithium is convenient to migrate data *from*, as well... for the next time we go through this exercise.
	Rand	Once we launch we will have more to discuss...
		Irene: yes...
	Cummere Mayo	lithium is known for being privacy invasive and for massive tracking...
	Irene Muni	GREAT!!!
		lol
	Rand	We are going to migrate some translated content initially
	Cummere Mayo	what will be done to mitigate that?
	Amanda Linden	one of the big benefits is an integrated system--integrated search.
	Rand	and we want to re-engage the community translation project on the new platform
	Irene Muni	God hears you Rand! XD
	Rand	:-)
13:09	Amanda Linden	and the ability to transfer other pieces of content generated in forums or sl answers and bring them over to kb articles.
		:)
	MarcelEdward DutchX	ah the search is gonna be fixed ?
	Torben Bailey	many localized articles are somewhat outdated
	Amanda Linden	search in lithium is a dream.
	Irene Muni	I'm not sure if I can speak about the new platform, I signed the NDA LOL But it's true, search is great
	Rand	Qie - that is a good point,but I can't speak to it at this point.
	Torben Bailey	would it make sense to try and update the outdated articles before the migration?
	Rand	Yes, federated search is a big win
13:10		Torben, we do have that on our radar....
	Cummere Mayo	I repeat my question about privacy and user tracking
	Maggie Darwin	I hadn't heard that search had suddenly become a difficult problem. Then I remebered I'm in SL.
	Rand	cummere - i can't speak to that
	Amanda Linden	well, we don't really have search at all in jive.
	Irene Muni	LOL
	Rand	i can raise the privacy concerns with our tech lead on teh project
	Maggie Darwin	Exactly.
13:11	Cummere Mayo	youre implementing a privacy invasive platform and you cannot speak to how youre going to inform / mitigate the issues?
	Amanda Linden	cummere, at this point, we cannot discuss this point.
	Cummere Mayo	...
	Rand	no, not me personally, because i am just working on the doc part of it
		(ie. the knowledge base)
	Fine Caliber	meditates.
	Rand	ican speak to the people who DO know, tho...
	Amanda Linden	ask us about this at a later date when we have the right people here.
	Cummere Mayo	can you please bring someone that can?
		preferably before implementation
	Adamburp Adamczyk	agrees
13:12	Amanda Linden	yes, we can. we'll add this to oru to do list for next time.
	Rand	i believe we can
	Maggie Darwin	"Lithium Technologies provides Social CRM solutions for the enterprise. "....that Lithium?
	Amanda Linden	other questions?
		yes.
	Cummere Mayo	yes maggie
		aka the platrom best buy got sued for using recently
	Maggie Darwin	Joy. Buzzword nirvana.
13:13	Irene Muni	Do yoyu know if the format for SL Ansers tested remains in the definitive platform?
	Amanda Linden	it's a very strong piece of technology.
	Irene Muni	Answers*
	Amanda Linden	sl answers is integrated into the new platform.
	Maggie Darwin	"On May 11, 2010, Lithium acquired social media monitoring (SMM) provider, Scout Labs, whose service allows brands to engage with their customers beyond the community and monitor, map, and measure customer conversations on the social web.[8]"
	Irene Muni	Yes Amanda, but the testers had many comoplaints about the format :)
	Rand	Yes, i dont believe the implementation has changed substantially since the preview test
	Cummere Mayo	which is what best buy got sued over
	Irene Muni	ARRHHHG!!! :(
	Cummere Mayo	and what freaks me the hell out
	Fine Caliber	[8]?
	Maggie Darwin	"the platform incorporates elaborate rating systems for contributors, with ranks, badges, and “kudos counts.”[4]"
	Fine Caliber	oh it's copy paste from wiki.
13:14	Amanda Linden	actually, a lot of the things that came through the private testers were implemented and/or will be at a later date.
		some not.
	Torben Bailey	Can you tell us something about Contribution-Based Roles?
	Amanda Linden	that's something that lexie could speak to, but she's not here.
		sorry.
	Cummere Mayo	alughs at the idea LL used private testers
	Amanda Linden	more on that next week.
	Irene Muni	Well, we wait, but in our opinion it's not a good format for SL Answers, but thanks for answer :)
	Rand	I can give you a high-level overview...
		but Lexie knows much more
13:15	Cummere Mayo	amanda with all due respect using fanbois and fangirls is not a legitmate test group
	Rand	basically, as you particpate more in the community you gain rights to do more on the platform
	Adamburp Adamczyk	would like answer ref last week;s question over who is g-team nowadays
	Rand	eg. after you spend so much time and respond to so many threads, you get the ability to edit KB articles, etc.
13:16	Maggie Darwin	Sounds ripe for gaming and drama. But that would never happen here. :-)
	Amanda Linden	cumit gives credit and new capabilities to folks who move up the contribution ranks.
	Rand	basically, if you are an active participant, you get granted more capabilities..
	Irene Muni	We will change this: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-1498 for Kudos and Ranks XD
	Amanda Linden	part of what it gives you is the ability to give kudos to content that is valuable/helpful.
	MarcelEdward DutchX	click
13:17	Torben Bailey	that does sound helpful
		giving kudos that is
	Amanda Linden	yes, it's very good. great content gets elevated naturally.
	Irene Muni	That sounds to me as NOCommunity, Ranks??? Just my opinion :)
13:18	Qie	Is there any negative kudo / anit-karma? else... the more controversial a poster, the better.
	Amanda Linden	we will have moderators in teh system 7 days a week dealing with flagged content.
	Torben Bailey	will the be localized sections still?
	Amanda Linden	the moderation that oyu'll find in lithium--and on our side--will be much better.
		yes, localized. for sure.
13:19	Qie	(okay, yeah, active moderation should help)
	Irene Muni	Active and intelligent moderation :)
	Rand	Torben: there will be localized sections in KB and Answers
13:20	Torben Bailey	I thought more about the forums part because the german forums now are a pain to read
	Irene Muni	WOW, I can die happy, localidez sections in KB :)
	Torben Bailey	hehe Irene :)
13:21	Irene Muni	:)
	Rand	Irene - yes, though at this point the UI won't be localized, but we will provide a place for (e.g.) German content
	Amanda Linden	:)
	Rand	...just to set expectations...
	Maggie Darwin	"My hovercraft is full of eels."
	Rand	lol
	Torben Bailey	o.O
	Irene Muni	:)
	Jeremy Linden	That sounds like an SL Answers question.
	Torben Bailey	no localized UI?
13:22	Rand	Not initially, no
	Torben Bailey	...
	Irene Muni	What about the actual content in forums? I know that content remains but will be "closed threads"?
13:23		Lag or silent? LOL
		Silent XD
	Adamburp Adamczyk	tempted to yell "onigokko"
	Qie	oh, yeah, that reminds me: the *old* old forums content... will be preserved, I presume?
	Maggie Darwin	"It's too hard to implement achievements in SL directly, but we can buy it off the shelf to crowdsource the docs."
	Amanda Linden	qie--yes. it will be available and searchable in archives.
	Rand	Irene: I cant answer your question, but I can find out
	Irene Muni	Thanks :)
	Qie	cool. thanks. :)
13:24	Irene Muni	No Kudos for Rand XD
	Cummere Mayo	Rand, my understanding is each post, question, answer, comment will have a tweet this and share this widget... will there be a way to opt out of having those?
	Adamburp Adamczyk	wil Rod be joining any of thee meetings/?
	Maggie Darwin	"Was this answer helpful? yes[] no[]"
	Irene Muni	LOL
	Rand	Cummere - you can just not click on them, but i believe they are always displayed.
	Irene Muni	Great question Cummere
13:25	Nathan Adored	gets a goofy, lopsided smile.
	Amanda Linden	rod will not be joining these meetings. sorry.
	Rand	Also, if you are just looking, you don't have to log in if you dont want to
		...but of course, you then cant post...
	Cummere Mayo	in that case i should let you know that yould be violating CA law in not allowing posters to opt out
	Torben Bailey	Who´s Rod?
		(kidding)
	Amanda Linden	cummere, we are not going to discuss this beyond what we've already shared.
	Cummere Mayo	so please change that
	Amanda Linden	torben--ha
13:26	Fine Caliber	I think the opt out is just not ever logging in.
	Amanda Linden	so, on the agenda someone asked for a content creators email list.
	Jill Yedmore	and it works.
	Amanda Linden	good question.
	Talarus Luan	Will anyone be deprived of any functionality if they DON'T use any other social media?
	Amanda Linden	(if we're ready to move on)
		ah, good question talarus--nope.
	Rand	Talarus -no, afaik
		yes lets move on
	Cummere Mayo	talarus, yes because we wouldnt be able to ask questions or engage in dialogue
13:27	Talarus Luan	O.o
	Amanda Linden	content creator email...
	Lord of Dee	There's already a scripting list
	Amanda Linden	we are in the process of looking at creating a content creator user group and that would include an email list...most likely.
	Torben Bailey	now that Lexie is here...
	Irene Muni	Lexie, don't fly please LOL
	Talarus Luan	She can fly if she wants to. <.<
	Amanda Linden	so, stay tuned on that. we just need to determine which linden will lead....
	Irene Muni	Lexie is OVER all the Residents XD
	Amanda Linden	so, it's on my list.
13:28		lexie, there were some questions re: roles/ranks.
	Lexie	Hi
	Adamburp Adamczyk	did lexie get the answer for me as promised last week about who g-tem are these days? ie do they still exist?
	Irene Muni	Lexie is the CENHTER of the residents LOL
	Torben Bailey	ellow
	Irene Muni	CENTER*
	Adamburp Adamczyk	g-team*
	Lexie	Adam yes, I did
	Adamburp Adamczyk	thank you LExie :)
	draconis.neurocam	Can I ask why some of the user groups don't show up on the google calender?
	Irene Muni	For example this group :)
13:29	Lexie	Governance is still handled by Lindens. That is not something scouts do Adam
	Amanda Linden	it should be there--on the main user group page?
	draconis.neurocam	yes
	Amanda Linden	i can take a look at that.
	draconis.neurocam	its not, along with some others
	Adamburp Adamczyk	thank you Lexie, that is reassuring
	Rand	draconis - it's possible that the leads haven't added them, or there is some glitch
	Amanda Linden	probably just an oversight on my part. thanks!
	Lexie	welcome ㋡
	Amanda Linden	will make sure it's there after this meet
	Irene Muni	No Kudos for Amanda XD
	Cummere Mayo	this group is on the usergroup page
	Lexie	hehe Irene
	Cummere Mayo	communitiy tools
13:30	Amanda Linden	yes, but draconis is saying it's not on the gcal below.
	Irene Muni	But not in Google Calendar Cummere
	Amanda Linden	i can look at that....
		oops on my part. :)
		will add it
	Talarus Luan	Any word on if/when we will be getting a Land user group to replace Jack's office hour?
	Maggie Darwin	URL for the GCal please somebody?
	Lexie	We had questions on ranks/roles?
	Amanda Linden	http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:User_Groups
	Rand	Gcal is embedded in https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:User_Groups
13:31	Torben Bailey	Rand jumped in for you and did well
	Maggie Darwin	Thnax
	Lexie	awesome
	Torben Bailey	there´s just some concerns about gambling the system
		like people asking stupid questions and answering on an alt
		to promote themself
13:32	Maggie Darwin	I feel like such a tool.
	Lexie	There is a formula in place that means participation is required in more than one way. It will be a lot of work to "game" the system ㋡
	Maggie Darwin	"Gaming the system" yes
	Talarus Luan	Oh, so the new system is going to have the silly rewards thing like Jive does?
13:33	Lexie	And If gaming ths sytem happens, we will see it..Im sure you will help by reporting it, and we will adjust the formula if needed ㋡
	Amanda Linden	(fyi--just put our meeting on the gcal.)
	Lexie	Rewards?
	Lord of Dee	What sort of roles are you enisaging?
	Irene Muni	Increasing Rank for Amanda
	Talarus Luan	Yeah, the points system or whatever it is.
	Rand	Thx amanda - it *was* on there before, not sure what happened..
	Lord of Dee	envisaging even
	Maggie Darwin	Talarus: read the Wikipedia article on "Lithium Technologies"
	draconis.neurocam	(yay but amanda what of the others not listed there, will the people running them have to add it?)
	Talarus Luan	I'm on their website directly atm.
13:34	Rand	draconis - we will make sure the others are added after this mtg
	draconis.neurocam	ah alright
	Amanda Linden	i can add for them. i
	Maggie Darwin	Oh, Lithum question: Is this hosted on LL servers? Or did y'all buy the SaaS dealio?
	Rand	thx for letting us know...
	Amanda Linden	it's easy
	Lexie	Talarus ranks and roles are permissions to do more in the system. I think it makes sense for those with more experience in SL to be able to do more that helps other Residents.
	Irene Muni	I disagree with Ranks, but that is a lost battle :(
13:35	Torben Bailey	will it be like visible ranks? or will it be like in JIRA?
		I´d prefer the JIRA way
	Talarus Luan	Oh? Like?
	Lord of Dee	After seeing what happened on the Jira a few days ago, this needs to be done carefully
	Rand	i believe they are visible, right lexie?
	Lexie	Stay tuned.. you will see more soon!
		Yes, they are
	Irene Muni	If it's implemented a EASY way for KB translations. I can die happy :)
	Talarus Luan	I've been heavy into SL scripting mentoring/support for almost 5 years. What does that net me in the "new" system? Or do I have to "prove" that effort all over again?
13:36	Torben Bailey	yeah, would be nice to edit localized articles without poking Lindens
	Rand	Irene, I think we will be starting a localization UG soon, so you should come to that...
	Irene Muni	Applause XD
	Amanda Linden	talarus--we're looking at this item now.
	Rand	Noelle can address your questions there....
	Amanda Linden	will have definitive answer on that next week.
13:37	Lexie	yes, we will ㋡
	Rand	(nb. its not started up yet)
	Torben Bailey	yay Noelle is back?
	Amanda Linden	yep!
		just got back.
	Irene Muni	Lexie, the format for SL Answers is the same that in the tested Jive? (please, say "no" XD)
	Maggie Darwin	"Oh, Lithum question: Is this hosted on LL servers? Or did y'all buy the SaaS dealio?"
	Torben Bailey	will we get to see baby pictures in the first UG session?`
	Amanda Linden	maggie--we can't answer that one.
		sorry
13:38	Talarus Luan	Well, we'll find out eventually. :P
	Lexie	Irene, testers feedback was included in many changes we have made.
	Maggie Darwin	Sorry, must have missed first response.
	Rand	Torben :-) ... maybe!
	Amanda Linden	np--was good question. :)
	Maggie Darwin	Important security question. Interesting there's no answer.
	Irene Muni	LO, great answer, lexie :) Thanks in any case :)
	Lexie	hehe
	Amanda Linden	irene--that testing period was very valuable.
	Torben Bailey	(she could get a prim baby for privacy reasons)
13:39	Amanda Linden	they def made changes based on your collective input
	Cummere Mayo	lexie U have a question...
		*I
	Rand	Torben - lol
	Irene Muni	I know Amanda, I have not complaints about LL in the tested period :)
	Amanda Linden	:)
13:40	Cummere Mayo	how do you prevent people from making and answering thier own questions using various alts to gain powers? and how about those of us that owrk primarily in jira and wiki? will we not get pwoers because we work in other areas? if so thts kind of a punishment
	Irene Muni	Is there people answering with Alts for points????
13:41	Torben Bailey	yes!
	Irene Muni	Are there*, sorry my English
	Amanda Linden	hopefully, taht stuff will come out when folks flag it for moderation.
	Cummere Mayo	yes lots
	Amanda Linden	we'll be on the look out--closely watching
	Rand	They are speculating that some people will do that to "game" the system and achieve a higher rank
	Nathan Adored	oh boy, sockpuppets.
	Irene Muni	In Sl Answers Cummere??
	Lexie	Cummere, as mentioned there is a formula in place that will help address gaming. Wiki and Jira are not in the formula, nor were they for our current system.
	Cummere Mayo	well it happens on jive all the time already
	Amanda Linden	yes, rand. some people will.
		we will be monitoring more closely for that activity
13:42	Rand	I can't speak to the other areas, but in the KB, a Linden will have to ultimately approve the publishing of any content
	Irene Muni	It's logical Rand.
		Normal.
	Rand	so, in that respect, as long as the info they provide is accurate it does no harm (re the KB at least)
	Cummere Mayo	right, but can those who do allot of jira work, such as ella, jonathan, and others please be given some extra permissions because if they do take the time to contribute somethign it should likely not need lots of red tape to get it done
	Lexie	I understand your concerns on gaming. We will keep an eye out for potential issues and make changes as needed.
13:43	Cummere Mayo	ty
	Irene Muni	Easy solution: no ranks nor points!! :)
	Lord of Dee	Good solution Irene!
	Lexie	haha Irene :p
	Amanda Linden	the:)
	Cummere Mayo	I like that solution irene
	Irene Muni	Vote https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-1498
		Lexie, not "hehe", it's true :)
13:44	Cummere Mayo	honestly those that give good answers will be noticed by someone anyways
	Lexie	hehe was for your passion on it. *hugs*
	Irene Muni	LOL
	Cummere Mayo	you shouldnt need popularity points or even a good gteam record
	Irene Muni	Kisses from Spain :)
	Lexie	㋡
	Irene Muni	Agree Cummere
	Amanda Linden	ok, any other questions for lexie?
13:45	Lexie	I think once you see the system, you will understand it better.
	Lord of Dee	Is the structure changing?
	Maggie Darwin	I'm seeing plenty at lithium.com.
	Talarus Luan	How big a test group was there? 10? 100? 1000?
	Amanda Linden	yes, much more organized.
	Cummere Mayo	lexie can i get with you directly next week please?
	Maggie Darwin	I guess you have to pass the bill to see what's in it.
	Amanda Linden	we took a good look at the information architecture.
13:46	Lord of Dee	any forums disappearing and can it handle the commerce forums?
	Amanda Linden	and the system is flexible enough to move things around--create areas, etc.
	Maggie Darwin	Gotta go.
	Amanda Linden	there are new ones, some going, but for the most part--same forums, just reorganized.
	Lord of Dee	That was a selling point of Jive Amanda :p
	Amanda Linden	yeah, but this is for real.
	Lexie	㋡
	Irene Muni	yes, question for Lexie,. is it Mr Humble an attractive man? LOL
	Lexie	lol of course he is!
13:47		㋡
	Amanda Linden	yep, he is.
	Lord of Dee	He supports the right football team, that's all that matters
	Amanda Linden	and he's super nice.
	Irene Muni	I have no problem in partner with Mr Humble, can you say his please?
	Amanda Linden	and crazy smart
	Lexie	hehe
		I think you have to ask him yourself Irene!
	Amanda Linden	ok, last 10 mins.
	Irene Muni	Well, I will try LOL
13:48	Amanda Linden	think that we covered the last item re: moderation.
		any other items that folks want to raise in our last 10 ins?
		mins
	Lord of Dee	Who are the moderators? Residents? Lindens? Scouts? Mixture?
	Cummere Mayo	wait we covered jira moderation?
	Talarus Luan	Any word on if/when we will be getting a Land user group to replace Jack's office hour?
	Cummere Mayo	didnt see it
	Amanda Linden	we don't have much jira moderation right now.
	Irene Muni	Can be helpful a box for suggestions to future meetings?
	Amanda Linden	but we will in lithium.
		they will be moderator lindens.
13:49	Nathan Adored	and what happens if someone's posts get removed when they shouldn't have been?
	Cummere Mayo	right but jira wont be there right?
	Amanda Linden	no. jira will stay in jira.
	Lexie	Jira is not moderated in the way we are discussing moderation right now.
	Rand	Irene - if you have a relevant item to add to the agenda, you can add it to https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Tools_User_Group
	Nathan Adored	"What happens in Jira, stays in Jira"? :D
	Amanda Linden	we will be very careful about what's deleted.
	Cummere Mayo	theres not really a good usergroup for jira stuff, can you please pass on the request to flag stuff?
	Irene Muni	(thanks, sorry for interruption, my mystake)
	Amanda Linden	jira is covered in this usergroup.
	Cummere Mayo	*to be able to flag stuff
13:50	Amanda Linden	but, the jira person isn't here today.
	Cummere Mayo	which contact would that be?
	Amanda Linden	if you have input into jira, you can email me directly.
	Torben Bailey	where´s Sue when we want to POKE!!!! her?
	Lord of Dee	Can you remove delete comment rights from non Lindens on the Jira?
	Amanda Linden	ha!
		sue is the best person for these jira questions.
		maybe we can have her come in too.
13:51		next time
	Cummere Mayo	ty
		but i will probably jsut talk to her at the server group. she shows up there allot
	Amanda Linden	good idea
	Irene Muni	The new JIRAwatched XD
		and NoVoted :(
13:52	Amanda Linden	any other items?
	Talarus Luan	Any word on if/when we will be getting a Land user group to replace Jack's office hour?
	Amanda Linden	has this been helpful? interesting?
	Lord of Dee	Any word on a land group?
	Amanda Linden	ah, no word yet.
	Rand	fyi, folks i will be out on vacation next week, so i will see you again in 2 weeks
	Amanda Linden	it's raised to the right folks. we are determining what we want to do here...
13:53		and what linden would lead. jack's role hasn' tbeen replaced.
	Torben Bailey	have a great vacation :)
	Irene Muni	Vacation? You are a Linden!!!
	Amanda Linden	so we're in a holding pattern for a bit.
	Rand	thx Torben!
	Lord of Dee	Any new groups you can give Blondin?
	Talarus Luan	k
	Amanda Linden	good quesiton tho--it's on my list.
	Lord of Dee	I like to see him kepty busy
	Amanda Linden	like blondin needs more to do? :)
	Lexie	lol
	Rand	Irene: lol....
	Blondin	ha
	Cummere Mayo	meh running bay city, zhindra, and events isnt enough
		:)
13:54	Amanda Linden	:)
	Blondin	and that only the stuff you see :)
	Amanda Linden	yeah, he's plenty busy
	Lord of Dee	Is there still a group for community groups like chilbo?
	Cummere Mayo	give him marketplace and jira, and um... the rest of mainland
	Lexie	slips more work onto Blondins desk ㋡
	Talarus Luan	Hmm.. <.<
	Amanda Linden	lord--not right now.
	Irene Muni	Great idea Cummere
		:)
	Amanda Linden	but, we're looking at some of that right now.
		blondin--think you ahve a fan club.
13:55		:)
	Blondin	<---blushes
	Irene Muni	Blondin NEEDS a explicit fan club :)
		As Lexie :)
	Jeremy Linden	Woo! Blondin!
	Amanda Linden	i
		ll sign up for the blondin fan club.
	Talarus Luan	I'll give him a club, alright. :P
	Amanda Linden	:)
13:56	Irene Muni	fan club rating Adult, of course LOL
	Amanda Linden	ok, items for next week?
		jira moderation
		what else?
	Irene Muni	next wekk? or two wekks?
	Amanda Linden	well, i'll be here---
	Cummere Mayo	meh sorry i already run ex-linden Joppas fan club and cgs fan club
	Amanda Linden	and lexie too.
	Lord of Dee	Answers to the questions you weren't allowed to comment on this week
	Cummere Mayo	lol
	Irene Muni	oh undertood, sorry
	Cummere Mayo	no room for blondins
	Rand	sorry, the UG will meet as usual next week, i just wont be here :-)
	Amanda Linden	and blondin will be here too.
	Lord of Dee	woot
	Irene Muni	Bondin, who is Blondin?
13:57	Amanda Linden	ok, so---jira, we'll invite sue.
		what else?
	Cummere Mayo	Lexie before you go can you check your im please?
	Blondin	thanks all!
	Jeremy Linden	points at Blondin.
	Rand	Thanks everybody!!
	Amanda Linden	kk, bye all.
		rand, can you grab the transcript?
	Lord of Dee	Can we see screenshots of the new setup?
	Talarus Luan	ciao
	Torben Bailey	bye bye
	Rand	amanda - yes will do
	Amanda Linden	not yet lord.
	Irene Muni	Greetings and kisses from Sopaind (and paella)!!
	Lexie	Bye for now! Have a great week/weekend ㋡
	Torben Bailey	have a great rest of the week all
	Irene Muni	Spain* LOL
	Amanda Linden	feels so weird saying not yet, lrod.
	Rand	adiios!
	Amanda Linden	lord
		:)
13:58		love to spain!
	Lord of Dee	Ok cheers guys
	Jill Yedmore	bye!
	Irene Muni	Great Amanda, kudos for you!