User:Whump Linden/Office Hours/Transcript 20080723

Open Grid Public Beta Office Hour at Ambleside Airship Dock

• [13:25] Siddhartha Fonda: hi Saij
• [13:25] Siddhartha Fonda: hi Adam
• [13:25] Siddhartha Fonda: hi Harleen
• [13:25] Siddhartha Fonda: hi Whump
• [13:25] Whump Linden: Howdy.
• [13:26] Adam Zaius: yo
• [13:26] Siddhartha Fonda: can i be a gridnaut too?
• [13:26] Whump Linden: Siddhartha, have you signed up for the beta?
• [13:27] Siddhartha Fonda: probably not -- i need to go back and read that note again
• [13:28] Xugu Madison: Evening (well it is here) all!
• [13:28] Whump Linden: Hello.
• [13:28] Shaun Altman: Hi
• [13:29] Shaun Altman: most excellent av
• [13:29] Whump Linden: I'll start in a couple of mins, not quite 1:30.
• [13:29] Waldina Katar: (Right): releasing controls
• [13:30] Carlos Roundel: hello
• [13:30] Whump Linden: There's another stool, that'll seat four to my right.
• [13:30] Whump Linden: and I can rez another seat
• [13:31] Saijanai Kuhn: Nice turnout and I didn't spam save gridnauts and pyogp IRC
• [13:31] Dahlia Trimble: cant stay long :(
• [13:31] BigMike Bukowski: I need to start going into the IRC channels.
• [13:32] Whump Linden: Okay, since there's so many AWG related meetings, I'd like to keep this one shorter.
• [13:32] Alliez Mysterio: HI everyone
• [13:32] Dahlia Trimble: hi :)
• [13:32] Whump Linden: So first, hello and welcome.
• [13:32] Whump Linden: This office hour is for the Open Grid Beta Program.
• [13:32] Whump Linden: [1]
• [13:33] Whump Linden: So I recognize most folks here from AWG and Zero's office hours.
• [13:33] Tao Takashi: Hi
• [13:33] Whump Linden: So first, a couple of house keeping items.
• [13:34] Whump Linden: 1. If you're participating in the beta, and you're not in the Gridnauts group inworld, please IM or send a notecard.
• [13:34] Whump Linden: You also need to be subscribed to the mailing list.
• [13:35] Whump Linden: https://lists.secondlife.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gridnauts
• [13:35] Whump Linden: But you need to be in the 'gridnauts' group in order to log into the agent domain server.
• [13:35] G2 Proto: do we need sound for this meeting? hey all!
• [13:35] Saijanai Kuhn: ahhhh...
• [13:36] Zha Ewry: Suspects, usual
• [13:36] Whump Linden: 2. Since you're logging into the agent domain attached to aditi, you should also confirm you can login to aditi between now and the 31sth.
• [13:36] Xugu Madison: and if we can't, poke you with a stick?
• [13:36] Dahlia Trimble: check
• [13:36] Whump Linden: I'll send a note to the list, and post to the wiki.
• [13:36] Saijanai Kuhn: This explains why AD login test stopped working for pyogp
• [13:37] Whump Linden: Xugu: yes, IM or notecard.
• [13:37] Tao Takashi: Sai: it's more the header issue I think
• [13:37] Whump Linden: Yes, Tao.
• [13:37] Saijanai Kuhn: ah ok. light bulb goes dim
• [13:37] Whump Linden: That's being tracked in [2]
• [13:38] Whump Linden: So that leads into the next item, filing JIRA's during the beta.
• [13:38] Dahlia Trimble: bad url
• [13:38] Saijanai Kuhn: period
• [13:38] BigMike Bukowski: remove the period
• [13:38] Whump Linden: the '.' bug
• [13:38] Dahlia Trimble: oops
• [13:38] G2 Proto: lol
• [13:38] Whump Linden: is there a pjira for that one?
• [13:38] Tao Takashi: is this bug filed? :)
• [13:39] Whump Linden: Tao, yes SVC-2682 is now assigned to Tess in our internal JIRA.
• [13:39] Dahlia Trimble: can we add a few alt accounts to the group?
• [13:40] Tao Takashi: I meant the .-bug
• [13:40] Tao Takashi: I saw the assignment
• [13:40] Whump Linden: If you have an alt you want to add, that would be fine. Would limiting it to one cause problems for anyone.
• [13:40] Dahlia Trimble: one is ok
• [13:40] Whump Linden: Tao, the '.', not to my knowledge, but worth a look in PJIRA.
• [13:40] Whump Linden: Okay.
• [13:41] Whump Linden: So filing bugs during the beta, please see [3]
• [13:41] Tammy Nowotny: shd be fine
• [13:41] Whump Linden: There are three components you can file issues against.
• [13:42] Whump Linden: [4] is the umbrella issue for tracking all the JIRAs during the beta
• [13:42] Whump Linden: If you were involved in the Mono beta, we're doing the same thing here.
• [13:43] Whump Linden: Any questions about filing JIRAs?
• [13:43] Whump Linden: or bug tracking in general
• [13:44] Bastet Broome: is it necessary to register ourselves on the web site?
• [13:44] Whump Linden: the one thing to note, if you're familiar with PJIRA is that there's a field for pasting in the URL of an external issue tracker such as Mantis or Bugzilla if you need a way to associate with your issue tracker.
• [13:45] Whump Linden: Bastet, for the beta, yes.
• [13:45] Dahlia Trimble: [5]
• [13:45] Bastet Broome: ok thanks
• [13:45] Dahlia Trimble: for opensim issues
• [13:45] Whump Linden: oh, misunderstood the context of Bastet's question.
• [13:45] Whump Linden: okay
• [13:46] Whump Linden: third item, OpenSim patch
• [13:46] Zha Ewry: looks up
• [13:46] Whump Linden: Zha, do you want to address that or I can give a status.
• [13:46] Zha Ewry: I can update people
• [13:46] Whump Linden: cool
• [13:47] Zha Ewry: I caught up to the current test implementatiion at Linden this morning
• [13:47] Whump Linden: Zha, you have the floor, or prim, as it were.
• [13:48] Zha Ewry: Assuming that doesn't change, I'll push out a new patch sometime in the next 24 hours or so. Its about 25% cleaner, (in the older code) and really painful where I sorted out the chanages. I'm hoping to get the pain out in the new code tommorow
• [13:48] G2 Proto: great news Zha!
• [13:48] Dahlia Trimble: which rev is it derived from?
• [13:48] Zha Ewry: and I'm going to probably talk to Adam about hosting it on the new forge server OpenSim has put up tonight.
• [13:48] Zha Ewry: Its on trunk, as of 15 minutes ago
• [13:48] G2 Proto: great!
• [13:48] Whump Linden: okay, do you want to host that on gforge, then?
• [13:49] Dahlia Trimble: kewl
• [13:49] Strawberry Fride: nice work :)
• [13:49] Tao Takashi: Zha: you post it again to the opensim mantis?
• [13:49] Zha Ewry: I've gotten the setup about right, for doing daily merges on tortise
• [13:49] Adam Zaius: Zha: Register a forge account and project, and I can approve those right now.
• [13:49] Adam Zaius: Sean has perms to do it as well.
• [13:49] Dahlia Trimble: awesome
• [13:49] G2 Proto: kewl!
• [13:49] Whump Linden: woot, thanks again to Zha for her work on this.
• [13:49] Zha Ewry: ok
• [13:50] G2 Proto: thanks Zha mega woot!!!!
• [13:50] Zha Ewry: is there a linke to the gforge page off the main opensim page?
• [13:50] Whump Linden: [6]
• [13:50] Zha Ewry: (Expect a lot of updates to this,in the next few days, as I get it cleaned up)
• [13:50] Tammy Nowotny: Thanks Zha!
• [13:50] Whump Linden: And I'll get the OGPB paged updated with the link to that once it's in place.
• [13:50] Tao Takashi: very cool :)
• [13:51] Tao Takashi: yeah, new docs would be great
• [13:51] Saijanai Kuhn: will you be explaining that your finally releasing the code isn't due to Prokofy's urging?
• [13:51] Whump Linden: Building mono exe files is pretty straightforward, but I'll try and have ubuntu and mac builds made and available
• [13:52] Tao Takashi: well, compared to a while back I think it's pretty easy nowadays to get opensim compiled
• [13:52] Whump Linden: okay, any questions on the patch, OpenSim?
• [13:52] Tammy Nowotny: LOL Sai
• [13:52] Tammy Nowotny: I cd use a mac build
• [13:52] Whump Linden: kk
• [13:52] G2 Proto: no Whump not from me just appreciate the efforts!
• [13:52] Tammy Nowotny: Thanks Whump
• [13:52] G2 Proto: thanks Whump!!!!, Zha!
• [13:53] Zha Ewry: anyone lookinfg for ubuntu or windows tips on the mono build path, can sing out
• [13:53] Whump Linden: Also want to thank Dahlia for an earlier build of the patched version that we were using earlier in the week.
• [13:53] Zha Ewry: Its pretty straigh forward
• [13:53] Tao Takashi: well, if there would be some script which automates the whole build, that would be great
• [13:53] G2 Proto: I'll try it for WIndows tonite and report back to group chat
• [13:53] Whump Linden: great
• [13:53] Zha Ewry: it builds off nant
• [13:53] Tao Takashi: yeah, but the docs for mac says that I have to change some stuff and copy things around
• [13:53] G2 Proto: go Dhalia!
• [13:54] Tao Takashi: like the libsl parts
• [13:54] Zha Ewry: Ahh
• [13:54] Zha Ewry: glances around for a mac guru
• [13:54] Whump Linden: okay, the last item was going to be about region domain urls, but as several folks pointed out, we are spending a lot of time in inworld meetings.
• [13:54] Tao Takashi: which is not that hard but if somebody already automated this maybe this could be reused :)
• [13:54] Whump Linden: So, I'd like to have that discussion on the list.
• [13:54] Saijanai Kuhn: I got libsl to work on a Mac :-/
• [13:55] Tao Takashi: +1 Whump
• [13:55] Enus Linden: yay sai! :p
• [13:55] Whump Linden: And use the office hours for announcments, status, and making sure JIRAs have been addressed.
• [13:56] Whump Linden: Okay, if anyone else has announcements or questions?
• [13:56] Dahlia Trimble: needs to go, will a transcript be posted?
• [13:56] Tammy Nowotny: I am more of a Mac devotee ... a student-novice at best... not even a Mac lay anunicate
• [13:56] Tammy Nowotny: *renunicate
• [13:56] Saijanai Kuhn: used to be a Mac programmer, 20+ years ago
• [13:57] Xugu Madison: I use Macs... just not as OpenSim platforms...
• [13:57] Whump Linden: Yes I'll make sure they are posted to the wiki.
• [13:57] Dahlia Trimble: thanks :) Bye all :)
• [13:57] Tao Takashi: ok, thanks for the updates! :)
• [13:57] Whump Linden: By Dahila, thanks.
• [13:58] Tao Takashi: then I am also off again.. cya all soon in a beta near you! :)
• [13:58] Whump Linden: Okay. I guess we're done. Until next week I'll see folks on the list and keep you apprised of things. I'll also summarize this to the list from the transcript.
• [13:58] Tammy Nowotny: TYVM Whump!
• [13:58] Tao Takashi: cool :)
• [13:58] Xugu Madison: See you in e-mail :)
• [13:58] Alliez Mysterio: Thanks Whump
• [13:58] Whump Linden: If you have a snapshot of the meeting, I'd love to have a copy for my archives.
• [13:58] Carlos Roundel: tanks whump
• [13:58] BigMike Bukowski: Thanks Whyump
• [13:59] Xugu Madison: Thanks Whump!
• [13:59] Whump Linden: You're all welcome!
• [13:59] Adam Zaius:  :)
• [13:59] Bastet Broome: thanks to all, bye!
• [13:59] Harleen Gretzky: thanks Whump
• [13:59] Alliez Mysterio: bye all
• [13:59] Whump Linden: one of the sofa sculpties still hasn't rezzed for me yet.
• [14:00] Tammy Nowotny: they looked pretty funny as huge spheres with people embedded in them
• [14:00] Whump Linden: ah, so it wasn't just me
• [14:00] Infinity Linden: it's a feature
• [14:00] Strawberry Fride: no, I see one big sphere with embedded avatars too
• [14:00] Whump Linden: ooh, right click it and it sorts itself out
• [14:00] Lars Donardson: that's cuz you didn't use llKickServer in the script Whump
• [14:00] Tammy Nowotny: feels better knowing even a Linden has issues with sculpty rendering at times :-)
• [14:01] Saijanai Kuhn: huh. It looked right when I first got here
• [14:01] Xugu Madison: Seeya later
• [14:02] Whump Linden: Okay, I'm going to run off and sort through notes and requests.
• [14:02] Strawberry Fride: oo - true!
• [14:02] Strawberry Fride: cunning trick
• [14:02] Strawberry Fride: thanks Whump