Beta Server Office Hours/Minutes/2009-11-19
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This meeting was held on November 19th, 2009
Agenda
Please enter items here for discussion at the next meeting.
- Discuss resolution of previous open items.
- Updates
- How to get more people here and testing stuff.
- Releases
- 1.32.1
- released and on the grid
- 1.34.0 - Coming Soon
- 1.32.1
- Any other business
Resolved Items
= Meeting Minutes
- how do we get more people to test on ADITI
- communicate on XStreet
- ask torley for help
- have more regions to test with on ADITI. Communicate those regions.
- ideas for instant inv transfer, or at least more often
- cron'd local tool?
- groups on ADITI
- why are they slow to update
- What went wrong in the 1.32.1 release
- Apache died on 2% of simhosts
- What happens when Apache is down...
- we had Lil turn off Apache on this simhost to see what would happen
- craziness ensued
Transcript
Transcript of Oskar Linden's Beta Server Office Hour for November 19th, 2009:
[15:00] Oskar Linden: hi Psi [15:00] Lil Linden is Online [15:00] Psi Merlin: Hi Oskar [15:01] Psi Merlin: Hi Lil [15:01] Yann Dufaux is Online [15:01] Lil Linden: hi! [15:01] Oskar Linden: I am not on top of things this week [15:01] Lil Linden: who is? [15:01] Oskar Linden: my wiki-foo is sloooooooow [15:01] Lil Linden: this week never happend AFAIC (care) [15:01] Oskar Linden: good to see you yann [15:02] Psi Merlin: Hello Yann [15:02] Yann Dufaux: ty Oskar , same for me ㋡ [15:02] Yann Dufaux: hi Psi!! ㋡ [15:02] Psi Merlin waves to Ardy [15:02] Yann Dufaux: well, now i'm ok ㋡ [15:02] Ardy Lay: Hi [15:03] Yann Dufaux: Hi Ardy ㋡ [15:03] Oskar Linden: give me a minute to get things together [15:03] Oskar Linden: Lil will entertain you [15:04] Richard Linden is Offline [15:04] Ardy Lay: I find running two sessions, each in a meeting quite confusing. :-) [15:05] Oskar Linden: grrr. wikiRAGE [15:05] Lil Linden is attacked by a ball [15:06] Techwolf Lupindo is Online [15:06] Yann Dufaux: lol Lil not me ㋡ [15:06] Lil Linden: and now for your entertainment [15:06] Lil Linden: that is all [15:06] Psi Merlin: This place looks like it could do with a clean up. [15:06] Yann Dufaux: hi Tech, and twisted ㋡ [15:07] Techwolf Lupindo: ooo...wounded prey... [15:07] Twisted Laws: hi [15:07] Twisted Laws: i thought this server was gonna get updated :( [15:07] Techwolf Lupindo: Easy way to clean up here, set auto-return to one minute. [15:08] Oskar Linden: ok guys [15:08] Oskar Linden: and animals [15:08] Oskar Linden: and ladies [15:08] Techwolf Lupindo grins [15:08] Yann Dufaux: hey where moon? [15:09] Oskar Linden: welcome once again to the incredibly awesome ebta server office hours [15:09] Oskar Linden: well [15:09] Oskar Linden: Moon has decided she cannot participate anymore [15:09] Oskar Linden: I am very sad, but she has her reasons [15:09] Lil Linden: :-( [15:09] Oskar Linden: so she will not be joing us anymore [15:10] Oskar Linden: she would be the one to relay info from other linden office hours [15:10] Yann Dufaux: :(( [15:10] Oskar Linden: she kept this wreckless train on track [15:11] Yann Dufaux: I can understend! [15:11] Oskar Linden: ok [15:11] Oskar Linden: well [15:11] Oskar Linden: on to the agenda [15:11] Oskar Linden: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Beta_Server_Office_Hours#Agenda [15:11] Saijanai Kuhn: anyone see RUth with Saijanai hair besides me? [15:12] Twisted Laws: yeah [15:12] Ardy Lay: I do too. [15:12] Twisted Laws: u grew boobs [15:12] Saijanai Kuhn: hrm. Well at least the hair rezzed [15:12] Oskar Linden: nice Saijanai [15:12] Saijanai Kuhn: I'm 100lbs overweight. I already HAVE boobs [15:12] Oskar Linden: Lil, why is Ruth back? [15:12] Saijanai Kuhn: relogging again [15:12] Lil Linden: in a way, ruth never left [15:12] Oskar Linden: ok [15:13] Oskar Linden: let me rephrase [15:13] Oskar Linden: Lil, why are we seeing Ruth again [15:13] Lil Linden: I don't know :) [15:13] Oskar Linden: fair enough [15:13] Techwolf Lupindo: I don't see any ruths here. [15:13] Twisted Laws: normal (?) now Saij [15:13] Psi Merlin: WB Sai - that looks better. [15:13] Saijanai Kuhn: still cloudy to me [15:13] Oskar Linden: uh oh Saijanai [15:14] Oskar Linden: it's not Ruth [15:14] Oskar Linden: but Bubba her 3rd cousin [15:14] Saijanai Kuhn: there we go [15:14] Saijanai Kuhn: Prokofy used to tell me that my ugly avatar reflected my ugly personality. [15:14] Oskar Linden: that's sad [15:14] Saijanai Kuhn: When I told him that it was ore or less true to life, he accused me of having no imagination [15:15] Oskar Linden: you can't win [15:15] Oskar Linden: ok, so enough about prokofy :-D [15:15] Oskar Linden: the open issues are still open [15:15] Oskar Linden: I don't think 1.32.1 had any specific fixes for them [15:16] Oskar Linden: I guess we can move onto updates [15:16] Oskar Linden: my biggest concern right now is getting more people into ADITI to test their content [15:17] Oskar Linden: I see many angry jira's from people who are surprised by bugs that creep into AGNI [15:17] Oskar Linden: posjump is one [15:17] Oskar Linden: there is a linking bug now [15:17] Oskar Linden: I really want to see SL content developers taking advantage of the ADITI headstart [15:18] Lil Linden: any ideas on how to get the word out to them? [15:18] Leyla Linden is Online [15:18] Ardy Lay: I got treated rather poorly when I suggested to some people that they should bring their stuff here to try it out on new server code. [15:18] Oskar Linden: I have attempted to create more communication on the issue, but still am not seeing more people in this meeting or participating [15:18] Oskar Linden: really ARdy? That's sad, I'm sorry. [15:19] Oskar Linden: I will be honest and on the record and say "We can't test everything" . [15:19] Oskar Linden: you can quote me on that [15:19] Ardy Lay: The most polite reply I got was something like 'It's not my job to test LL software. They should have staff to do that.' [15:19] Psi Merlin: It helps to have an idea where the changes are and what to focus on - but that rather supposes people take an interest in the first place. [15:20] Oskar Linden: Lil and I have been working on communicating changes [15:20] Oskar Linden: but even without communicating all changes posjump could have been noticed to be broken [15:20] Oskar Linden: the megaprims linking thing would have been noticed [15:20] Psi Merlin: and I understand the problems when you can't always talk about stuff for various reasons. [15:20] Ardy Lay: I don't tend to use things that seem to be working outside of original intentions, like that numeric trick for moving a prim. [15:21] Oskar Linden: true. [15:21] Oskar Linden: there are hacks that are not officially supported [15:21] Oskar Linden: but they are in the sense that we don't want to break them until we have a replacement [15:21] Oskar Linden: I don't want to break peoples content [15:21] Leyla Linden is Offline [15:21] Ardy Lay: I understand, Oskar. [15:22] Oskar Linden: if content developers gave their stuff a once over on here, just a quick sanity pass, then they could see if things might have broken or not [15:22] Psi Merlin: The forums show how little many of the posters understand about developing for and running large scale infrastructure. [15:22] Oskar Linden: how can I communicate that? [15:22] Oskar Linden: one resident suggested that I have an automated way to copy people and inventories over [15:23] Oskar Linden: I don't think that will help. [15:23] Twisted Laws: is it possible to post a "global" message on xstreet to vendors? [15:23] Oskar Linden: I currently copy people over as soon as they request it and I only get like 1 request a week [15:23] Oskar Linden: that is an interesting point Twisted [15:23] Lil Linden was about to say the same thing :) [15:23] Oskar Linden: I'll see maybe if Torley can help communicate or the ecommerce team can on xstreet [15:23] Psi Merlin: I try to spread the word about what's happing on the gris - in general conversations and at my monthly 'Region' office hours. [15:24] Oskar Linden: I'd really like to see ADITI much more active than it is [15:24] Oskar Linden: most of the bugs that become large issues on AGNI could be fixed here so easily [15:24] Twisted Laws: idk... its a good place to come work on things without getting bothered :p [15:24] Oskar Linden: posjump was a simple fix [15:24] Oskar Linden: it's the deploy to AGNI that takes time [15:25] Psi Merlin: I suspect many developers aren't really interested in testing - and can simple 'blame the lindens' when things break - even when it's their own fault. [15:25] Ardy Lay: I kinda thought the pilot regions would have signaled such issues. [15:25] Oskar Linden: we get requests a lot for rollbakcs and that is just not practical unless a bug is so horrendous it threatens the grids existence [15:26] Ardy Lay: Yeah, that's the culture now, "Blame the Lindens". I hate that. [15:26] Oskar Linden: the pilot regions are a last test kind of thing [15:26] Twisted Laws: posjump was identified in pilot the first day [15:26] Oskar Linden: but even at that point, what was a simple bug fix the week before now holds up deployment [15:26] Lil Linden: the pilot is not going to give us enoug time to fix bugs [15:26] Oskar Linden: the pilot is how make sure we don't explode the grid [15:27] Twisted Laws: :) [15:27] Andrew Linden is Offline [15:27] Techwolf Lupindo: Right now, there are sims dub from main grid. But for content creators to test there stuff here, need more sandboxes or just a general area that has build rights with about two or more sim running different version. Right now, there isn't an area for testing other then, fly till you find a build spot. [15:27] Oskar Linden: ok [15:27] Psi Merlin: I think many regions wouldn't want to pilot in case stuff breaks and hurts their club, market or whatever. [15:27] Oskar Linden: note to self. have more areas for testing and communicate them [15:28] Techwolf Lupindo: My biggest PITA now, inventory refresh. How many content creaters are going to test there there stuff they just got done on main grid when they can't move it here. A lot of stuff is built in world and can't be easllly exported. [15:28] Ardy Lay: Oskar, regions like Lusk are not really getting used here, are they? That's where my house is but that region only helps me and I am not a content creator. [15:29] Oskar Linden: the inv refresh thing is interesting and it is a good point [15:29] Psi Merlin: Personally I feel if something is going to break I rather it do it in pilot - maybe I get the pain, but you guys are looking out for trouble and will work to fix it. [15:29] Oskar Linden: I have been hesitant making it an automated process because of content theft types of reason [15:30] Ardy Lay: Can it be automated for people that "sign up" for it? [15:30] Techwolf Lupindo: Oskar, My sujestion to Vector was a web page for account users to press a button and set a flag so when we log in here, inventory refresh. [15:30] Oskar Linden: I bet it probably could... [15:30] Oskar Linden: the trouble with that is that we need to go to web design [15:30] Oskar Linden: and put in a request [15:30] Oskar Linden: and get it developed [15:30] Oskar Linden: and then designed [15:30] Psi Merlin: Refresh on (automated) request would be nice. [15:31] Oskar Linden: and then qa'd and then deployed [15:31] Oskar Linden: and it will take 4 months [15:31] Techwolf Lupindo: Also, I just check my groups list. They are over a year old and I got some invite only groups wiht prevligies and I can't do that over here. [15:31] Oskar Linden: the idea of a list is interesting to me [15:31] Oskar Linden: hey lil [15:31] Lil Linden: hey [15:31] Oskar Linden: let's say we had a tool of our own [15:31] Oskar Linden: a shellscript [15:31] Oskar Linden: with a list of account names [15:31] Oskar Linden: in a text file [15:31] Oskar Linden: and we cron'd it [15:31] Oskar Linden: on a local machine [15:32] Lil Linden: for imports? [15:32] Oskar Linden: for inv transfers [15:32] Oskar Linden: and it ran once a night [15:32] Techwolf Lupindo: Oskar, good short term soluction while waiting for the web team to code up a page. [15:32] Lil Linden: would people not mind their Aditi inv getting Agnified every night? [15:32] Psi Merlin: If there is a way we could help I'm sure we would. [15:32] Oskar Linden: ok lil. we can talk about it offline [15:33] Oskar Linden: actually lil and I are never offline [15:33] Lil Linden: kk [15:33] Oskar Linden: that statement means nothing [15:33] Lil Linden: :) [15:33] Oskar Linden: it's true [15:33] Lil Linden just got his implant last week [15:33] Oskar Linden: last night lil sets his away status to HALFWAY THROUGH A BOTTLE OF BEER AND NEED PIZZA [15:33] Oskar Linden: i mean wine [15:33] Lil Linden: haha [15:34] Psi Merlin: Make sure people can store stuff inworld here if the inv sync is automatic. [15:34] Oskar Linden: but yeah. he cared enough to tell the whole copmany [15:34] Oskar Linden: or those who were in IRC at 11pm [15:34] Lil Linden: roger, psi [15:34] Techwolf Lupindo: Can someone do an account refresh? I like to get my groups regreshed. [15:34] Oskar Linden: the groups thing is different [15:34] Oskar Linden: if a group has been created on AGNI and isn't here yet updating your inv means nothing [15:35] Techwolf Lupindo: Psi, store stuff on a no auto-return plot. [15:35] Oskar Linden: right. objects on ground, no auto return would stay [15:35] Andrew Linden is Online [15:35] Oskar Linden: like a locker :-D [15:35] Techwolf Lupindo: groups and inventory are seperate. [15:35] Oskar Linden: I understand TL [15:35] Leyla Linden is Online [15:35] Oskar Linden: inv/account my bad [15:35] Techwolf Lupindo smiels [15:35] Oskar Linden: but copying your account over will show a blank group [15:36] Oskar Linden: since the ADITI db doesn't have it yet [15:36] Techwolf Lupindo: The groups that i'me in are well over a year old. [15:36] Psi Merlin: Of course - peope just need to know where's safe. [15:36] Oskar Linden: hrm [15:36] Oskar Linden: I guess that is another conversation for lil and I to have afterwards [15:37] Oskar Linden: looks like we put Twisted and Saijanai to sleep [15:37] Oskar Linden: first person to take a compromising pic of Twisted gets an L$ [15:37] Lil Linden: quick, get a bowl of hot water [15:38] Techwolf Lupindo: When I get updates from vender on the main grid, it would be nice just to hop to here and do a quick run tough test here. [15:38] Oskar Linden: what vendor? [15:38] Saijanai Kuhn nevert sleeps (its a debug setting) [15:38] Techwolf Lupindo: content makers venders. [15:38] Twisted Laws: ah, was reading but eating at the same time :p [15:38] Oskar Linden: :-D [15:38] Oskar Linden: Lil and I will talk about how to get inv on here sooner [15:38] Oskar Linden: and the groups thing [15:39] Oskar Linden: I will make a meeting [15:39] Oskar Linden waves his hand authoritatively [15:39] Techwolf Lupindo: Sence inventory is a one way things. I don't think there is much worrry about dupe bugs. [15:39] Oskar Linden: dupe bugs? [15:39] Twisted Laws: all hail the great Oskar [15:40] Techwolf Lupindo: Dupe bugs, common term used in games that copies objects. [15:40] Oskar Linden: ah [15:40] Techwolf Lupindo: no-copy here [15:41] Oskar Linden: alright so Lil, you wanna talk about how the 1.32.1 roll went? [15:41] Oskar Linden moves right along [15:41] Lil Linden: Sure! [15:41] Lil Linden: It went pretty smoothly with one exception [15:41] Lil Linden: you may have noticed some TP failures and other anomalies during the deploy [15:42] Oskar Linden: anomalies like no notecard uploads [15:42] Lil Linden: apparently Apache didn't want to restart on 1-2% of our simnodes [15:42] Lil Linden: yeah [15:42] Lil Linden: so I had to clean those up [15:42] Oskar Linden: you'd think it's no biggie. I mean it's jsut a web server right? [15:42] Lil Linden: it was a deploy-only issue though, so it shouldn't linger [15:42] Lil Linden: yeah :) [15:42] Techwolf Lupindo: Had a couple tp failures, but no tp fail and crash logout. [15:43] Oskar Linden: turns out having apache running on our simhosts is a fairly critical thing [15:43] Oskar Linden: :-p [15:43] Techwolf Lupindo: What is that apache doing on there in the first place? [15:43] Oskar Linden: stuff [15:43] Lil Linden: a lot of our backend services are web services [15:44] Lil Linden: these days people like to make everything run over HttP [15:44] Oskar Linden: listening for things [15:44] Lil Linden: :) [15:44] Oskar Linden: then telling things back [15:44] Leyla Linden is Offline [15:44] Lil Linden: oskar is giving the technical description [15:44] Techwolf Lupindo: If doing things that need to scale, there is a lot of software and hardware that scales http up nicely. [15:44] Oskar Linden: well on the scale we have using a single instance of apache per sim host seems to work well [15:44] Lil Linden: yeah, HTTP is tried & true. You can cache it, you can loadbalance it.. you can eat it on a train, on a plane [15:45] Psi Merlin: when it's borked things go all wierd - to be technical about it :) [15:45] Oskar Linden: we are doing a lot with HTTP in the backend these days [15:45] Lil Linden: I could kill apache on this sim and you'll see what happens :-) [15:45] Oskar Linden: understanding HTTP is essential for QA [15:45] Techwolf Lupindo: http can be a very lightwieght protucule, "GET /" is all that is needed. But if done improperlly, can be a real nightmare. [15:45] Oskar Linden: you would be surprised how many people in interviews can't even tell me what it does [15:45] Lil Linden: no doubt, TW [15:46] Oskar Linden: sure turn off apache here Lil [15:46] Oskar Linden: do it [15:46] Twisted Laws: haha [15:46] Oskar Linden: let's see what happens [15:46] Techwolf Lupindo: do it, can't hurt nothing on here? Right? [15:46] Oskar Linden: nope [15:46] Oskar Linden: hi Suae. welcome [15:46] Suae Mesic: ty [15:47] Techwolf Lupindo: Oh, i've heared the land buy has been fixed here? [15:47] Lil Linden: done [15:47] Oskar Linden: that is the rumor TL [15:47] Lil Linden: apache is off [15:47] Lil Linden: :) [15:47] Ovaltine Constantine: Would it cause "Could not upload (script/gesture/whatever) because the server is having unexpected difficulties"? [15:47] Object: Hello, Avatar! [15:47] Techwolf Lupindo watches for smoke... [15:47] Lil Linden: things get weird [15:47] Object: Hello, Avatar! [15:47] Psi Merlin: Hi Suae - don't panic the Linden boys are jsut playing with the sim. [15:47] bacon sammach plane whispers: Mode: Hover [15:47] bacon sammach plane whispers: Emergency brake disengaged. [15:47] Oskar Linden: wait... it let me save a notecard [15:48] Oskar Linden: u sure it's off? [15:48] Oskar Linden: tell me you are on ADITI and not AGNI lil [15:48] Ovaltine Constantine: Teehee [15:48] Twisted Laws: ^^ [15:49] Lil Linden: I think it is [15:49] Lil Linden: yeah [15:49] Lil Linden: stopped some more stuff [15:49] Lil Linden: for kicks [15:49] Lil Linden: this sim is gonna suck in a few seconds [15:49] Oskar Linden: I can still upload notecards [15:49] Lil Linden: wacky [15:49] Object: Hello, Avatar! [15:50] Ardy Lay: Maybe that suck will clear out a few stray prims. :-) [15:50] Techwolf Lupindo: saveIfNeeded: Saving notecard d06e493c-4a57-b01a-6ff2-919c4f7ddff7 into agent inventory via https://sim3006.aditi.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/f6e9092c-cb7a-385c-a0a2-093865591728 [15:50] Techwolf Lupindo: was complested [15:50] Lil Linden: OH [15:50] Lil Linden: sim3006 [15:50] Lil Linden: I was messing with 3002 [15:50] Techwolf Lupindo lol [15:50] Oskar Linden: dude [15:50] Oskar Linden: we talked about this in your weekly review [15:50] Oskar Linden: Attention to Detail [15:50] Techwolf Lupindo: I wonder who was in 3002... [15:50] Techwolf Lupindo lol [15:50] Oskar Linden: oh man [15:50] Oskar Linden: haha [15:50] Ovaltine Constantine: Cant even break the sim correctly... [15:50] Twisted Laws: why's that smoke rolling off Oskar's av? [15:50] Lil Linden: ok [15:51] Lil Linden: now it's gonna suck :) [15:51] Lil Linden: second life never breaks when you want it to [15:51] Oskar Linden: ladies and gentlemen... I give you Lil. The LL Relase Manager [15:51] Lil Linden: only when you don't [15:51] Psi Merlin: I've got 3006 from http-in [15:51] Oskar Linden: release engineer [15:51] bacon sammach plane whispers: Mode: Hover [15:51] bacon sammach plane whispers: Emergency brake disengaged. [15:51] Techwolf Lupindo: 2009-11-19T23:51:09Z INFO: processChain: Pump generated pipe err: 'STATUS_NO_CONNECTION' 2009-11-19T23:51:09Z INFO: parse: LLSDXMLParser::Impl::parse: XML_STATUS_ERROR parsing: 2009-11-19T23:51:09Z INFO: error: ViewerStatsResponder::error 499 STATUS_NO_CONNECTION [15:51] Oskar Linden: there it goes [15:51] Lil Linden: DIE SIM! [15:51] Lil Linden: DIE! [15:51] Oskar Linden: note card uplaods banned [15:51] Oskar Linden: if the sim does die [15:51] Ardy Lay: Yea, lost database access? [15:51] Richard Linden is Online [15:51] Lil Linden: muahahaha [15:51] Oskar Linden: it's been nice knowing all of you [15:51] Twisted Laws: yeah, debug log's getting errors [15:52] Lil Linden: now you know what to look for when apache's dead [15:52] Twisted Laws: haha [15:52] Lil Linden: you can impress support & dnoc [15:52] Techwolf Lupindo: Ooo..that error messages explains a lot. Now I know what is causing it when I get it again. I LOVE the helpfull erros messages in SL. :-) [15:53] Lil Linden restarted all necessary services :) [15:53] Techwolf Lupindo: map still works. [15:53] Oskar Linden: oh how did that happen? [15:53] Oskar Linden: map is different I think [15:53] Techwolf Lupindo: snowglobe-trunk here. [15:53] Techwolf Lupindo: 2009-11-19T23:53:20Z INFO: fetchDescendents: WebFetchInventoryDescendents or agent/inventory capability not found. Using deprecated UDP message. 2009-11-19T23:53:21Z INFO: fetchDescendents: agent/inventory not on AD, checking fallback to region [15:53] Yann Dufaux: LOL [15:54] Oskar Linden: is it time for the hammer? [15:54] Lil Linden: ack [15:54] Oskar Linden: or should I ask for any other business? [15:54] Lil Linden: haha [15:54] Lil Linden: "real work"? [15:54] Yann Dufaux: yeah , don't crush me ㋡ [15:54] Techwolf Lupindo: Don't taz me bro. [15:54] Techwolf Lupindo: :-) [15:54] Lil Linden: lol [15:55] Techwolf Lupindo: Yann got a built in tazer on his tail. [15:55] Oskar Linden: haha [15:55] Twisted Laws: this server is still 1.32.0 :p [15:55] Lil Linden: yeah [15:55] Lil Linden: I need to fix that still don't I? [15:55] Oskar Linden: alright guys. I think we got some good stuff discussed today [15:55] Lil Linden: in fact [15:55] Yann Dufaux: ready Oskar? ㋡ [15:55] Lil Linden: aditi needs to get upped to 1.32.1 [15:55] Oskar Linden: I'll see what I can get done by next week [15:55] Oskar Linden: yeah lil [15:55] Lil Linden: and the pretty new 1.34! [15:55] Oskar Linden: Up ADITI [15:55] Oskar Linden: woohoo [15:55] Oskar Linden: oh yeah [15:55] Oskar Linden: coming soon [15:55] Yann Dufaux: loll [15:55] Lil Linden: I hear it's got ZERO lag [15:56] Oskar Linden: :-D [15:56] Techwolf Lupindo: Oh... [15:56] Lil Linden: and you can rez prims as big as 4 sims [15:56] Oskar Linden: we'll see what QA has to say about that [15:56] Lil Linden: and it gives you money [15:56] Twisted Laws: as long as no one logs on... i bet [15:56] Lil Linden: and... :) [15:56] Saijanai Kuhn hums a little tune about rock candy mountain... [15:56] Yann Dufaux: you can't return my robot :P [15:56] Techwolf Lupindo: Just remember something from the agnea, I know one sim that is under TD problems, but its adult. :-( [15:56] Oskar Linden: ok yann [15:56] Lil Linden: lol saikanai :) [15:56] Techwolf Lupindo: aganda that is [15:56] Oskar Linden: ur asking for it lil guy [15:57] Twisted Laws: ^^ [15:57] Fractured Ban Hammer v0.5: Yann Dufaux [15:57] Techwolf Lupindo: heh, land deforming hammer. [15:57] Entering god mode, level 200 [15:58] Oskar Linden: great meeting guys [15:58] Oskar Linden: I call it DONE [15:58] Bump detector: bumped by Oskar Linden [15:58] Twisted Laws: thanks Oskar, Lil and all [15:58] Fractured Ban Hammer v0.5: Yann Dufaux [15:58] Richard Linden is Offline [15:59] Twisted Laws: haha [15:59] Richard Linden is Online [15:59] Lil Linden is under nerf attack [15:59] Lil Linden: IRL [15:59] Lil Linden: thanks guys :) [15:59] Oskar Linden: that's good fun [15:59] Oskar Linden: tada