Doc Team/2011-02-02

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[13:01]	LegoMan Karu:	Hey Jeremy.
[13:01]	LegoMan Karu	has pinged you.
[13:01]	Jeremy Linden:	Hey LegoMan. Good to see you on the main grid.
[13:01]	LegoMan Karu:	Yep.
[13:01]	Nathan Adored:	Ah, LegoMan is a teen? Kewl
[13:01]	LegoMan Karu:	Yep.
[13:01]	LegoMan Karu:	Is voice on?
[13:02]	Nathan Adored:	So he's in real life only a little bit older than the character I play in world. heh. Well, slightly older than the PHYSICAL age of my character. He's a sci-fi character who's been through multiple time warps that made him younger again
[13:02]	Jeremy Linden:	Heh. That sounds like Torley's backstory, Nathan.
[13:02]	Jeremy Linden:	Voice is off here, Lego.
[13:03]	LegoMan Karu:	oh k
[13:03]	Nathan Adored:	What, Torley's been zapped by time warps that turned him into a preteen kid again? :D
[13:03]	Jeremy Linden:	Not quite, but he had some kind of story to explain why he became female.
[13:03]	Nathan Adored:	ah
[13:03]	LegoMan Karu:	ok
[13:03]	Nathan Adored:	/me giggles
[13:04]	Jeremy Linden:	http://secondlife.wikia.com/wiki/Torley_Linden
[13:05]	Jeremy Linden:	It's pretty quiet here today! Did you guys miss me last week?
[13:05]	LegoMan Karu:	Yea i was not on Last week.
[13:06]	Jeremy Linden:	Sorry I didn't say something in advance; I was actually at HQ for some team-building exercises and stuff.
[13:06]	LegoMan Karu:	Really does Micheal Linden run it
[13:06]	Jeremy Linden:	Rodvik Linden is the new CEO, Lego :-)
[13:07]	LegoMan Karu:	oh Yeah will he come inworld
[13:07]	LegoMan Karu:	to meet people in office hours
[13:07]	Jeremy Linden:	He already has come inworld a bit. I think he's done quite a bit of exploring as his alt, too.
[13:07]	Jeremy Linden:	You should read his first blog post... he talks about his experiences getting to know SL.
[13:08]	LegoMan Karu:	Yeah hes good the Milltarys on SL are come up really Fast
[13:08]	Nathan Adored:	I was busy on another world, with another in-world group-chatting thingy that overlapped with this OH
[13:10]	Jeremy Linden:	Heh. So you guys are here because you weren't here last week? :-P
[13:10]	Nathan Adored:	Well, I come here a lot..... I just... changed my plans at the last minute because of the other event
[13:11]	Jeremy Linden:	I was hoping for a bigger crowd, but it's worth mentioning that this is going to be my last personal office hour. In theory, there should be a big announcement on Feb. 8 explaining the new implementation of office hours, along with times and places where they'll be held.
[13:11]	LegoMan Karu:	Oh yeah Michael was Telling me about it whats going on?
[13:12]	Nathan Adored:	So, someone else will be taking over for the docteam OHs?
[13:12]	Jeremy Linden:	I can't go into detail until after the announcement, but we'll be expanding the scope of this office hour to other community/help issues, and we'll be moving the time so it doesn't conflict with a different group.
[13:12]	Nathan Adored:	I was actually halfway expecting more ppl to show up and grouse about that disappearing-megraprims foulup.
[13:13]	Jeremy Linden:	Technically, I won't be the one running it anymore, but I'll still be there most weeks.
[13:13]	LegoMan Karu:	So hows the security Proposel going?
[13:14]	Jeremy Linden:	LegoMan, I don't think it's going to fly. We've been over this many times.
[13:15]	Nathan Adored:	What proposal is this? (Do I WANNA know? oO )
[13:15]	LegoMan Karu:	oh k
[13:15]	LegoMan Karu:	Sorry
[13:16]	Jeremy Linden:	If I understand correctly, LegoMan is proposing that Linden Lab set up manned governance stations throughout Second Life, staffed by Lindens.
[13:16]	Jeremy Linden:	Hello, Psi. Welcome to Documentation Office Hours.
[13:16]	Nathan Adored:	and that would accomplish.... what exactly?
[13:16]	Jeremy Linden:	Exactly :-)
[13:17]	LegoMan Karu:	brb
[13:17]	Nathan Adored:	And no, I didn't mean that rhetorically....
[13:17]	Psi Merlin:	Hi
[13:17]	Nathan Adored:	What would te purpose of that set of stations be?
[13:18]	Jeremy Linden:	That's a question for Lego.
[13:18]	Nathan Adored:	Anyway, I don't really see it happening, regardless: too many layoffs of Lindens lately....
[13:19]	Jeremy Linden:	It's an interesting concept, but I think the abuse reporting system gets the same results, and with better coverage and less manpower.
[13:20]	Nathan Adored:	/me nods nods nods
[13:20]	LegoMan Karu:	True
[13:20]	LegoMan Karu:	Jeremy have you any ideas lately
[13:20]	LegoMan Karu	has pinged you.
[13:21]	Jeremy Linden:	I've been working on a thing I can't talk about yet, so this office hour has been pretty boring lately :-)
[13:21]	Nathan Adored:	awwwwww
[13:22]	Nathan Adored:	So, anything you can talk about concerning the recent event of lots of megaprims suddenly disappearing out of people's builds?
[13:22]	LegoMan Karu:	k
[13:22]	Jeremy Linden:	To be honest, I haven't heard more than the occasionaly twitter chatter about it. I didn't realize there was a big event.
[13:23]	Jeremy Linden:	er, occasional*
[13:23]	Jeremy Linden:	Hello lonetorus. Welcome to Documentation Office Hours
[13:23]	lonetorus Habilis:	heyhey :)
[13:23]	Nathan Adored:	I dunno how big or small an event it was either. Fortunately, no megaprims disappeared out of MY build. Knock wood
[13:24]	Jeremy Linden:	Huh. I'll have to ask around about it next time I get a chance.
[13:25]	Jeremy Linden:	I have a theory, but again, it's something I can't talk about :-P
[13:25]	Jeremy Linden:	Hey lonetorus, that outfit is cooler than my bling suit!
[13:27]	Jeremy Linden:	Hey Rand!
[13:27]
[13:27]	LegoMan Karu:	Hey Rand
[13:27]	Jeremy Linden:	(Rand is the new manager of the Documentation Team)
[13:27]	LegoMan Karu:	Great
[13:28]	Nathan Adored:	helllo Rand
[13:28]	Jeremy Linden:	Hello Morgaine. Welcome to the last Documentation Office Hour
[13:28]	LegoMan Karu:	Hey i have question is there anyway to go to Linden Sims as a Guest
[13:29]	Not in	general, AFAIK...unless you are God TP'ed there for specific meeting
[13:29]	Jeremy Linden:	I'm afraid not, LegoMan. Linden regions are for Lindens only, and contain stuff that's generally for our eyes only.
[13:29]	Morgaine Dinova:	Thanks for the welcome, Jeremy. (I misclicked the link, but all the best to you in your last own OH :-)
[13:29]	Morgaine Dinova	has pinged you.
[13:29]	LegoMan Karu:	I see.
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[13:30]	Morgaine Dinova:	Hi Rand, all the best to you too :P
[13:30]	Nathan Adored:	/me suddenly has that James Bond movie theme running through his head., "Forr youuurrrr eyes onlyyyyyyy..... only for youuuu....."
[13:30]	Morgaine Dinova:	Now for the link I *meant* to click (Oz's OH :P) ...
[13:31]	yakov Ryba:	Hello
[13:31]	Jeremy Linden:	Heh. Good ol' Oz, more popular than me :-P
[13:31]	the Office	Hours program is transitioning to a User Group format and we will be ablet to provide more information on 2/8 regarding the User Groups that are available
[13:31]	apropos of	that
[13:31]	m planning	on rescheduling this meeting so that it doesn't conflict
[13:31]	yakov Ryba:	can I talk to you lindens for a sec?
[13:32]	yakov Ryba:	well, I had 20k land stolen from me. :s
[13:32]	Sorry to	hear that, Yakov
[13:32]	You should	raise a support ticket
[13:32]	yakov Ryba:	yeah, stinks
[13:32]	Nathan Adored:	oO
[13:33]	yakov Ryba:	well, I called up but they said I had to have a premium.
[13:33]	yakov Ryba:	I mean, it was group owned.
[13:33]	yakov Ryba:	but, I was still the leader.
[13:33]	yakov Ryba:	and its dissapointing.
[13:34]	This meeting	is really for discussion of documentation related issues, though...
[13:34]	yakov Ryba:	oh, ok.
[13:34]	yakov Ryba:	Sorry then
[13:34]	LegoMan Karu:	Hey i have a Question how to become a Scout a Live chat Person
[13:34]	sorry about	what happened, but I'm not in a position to help...
[13:34]	yakov Ryba:	mk
[13:34]	Nathan Adored:	who is?>
[13:34]	Jeremy Linden:	/me is happy to discuss, but Rand is correct. The two of us don't have any ability to change your situation.
[13:35]	can you	answer the Q from LegoMan
[13:35]	Rand Linden	has pinged you.
[13:35]	Jeremy Linden:	One moment while I check my facts
[13:35]	LegoMan Karu:	k
[13:36]	LegoMan Karu:	Rand is nice to meet you for the first time.
[13:36]	Nice to	meet you, too, LegoMan..and all of you for that matter! :-)
[13:39]	t know	how familiar you all are with what we do, but basically we help create and maintain the Knowledge Base - https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/KB
[13:39]	re working	on overhauling the content to bring it up to date and make it more useful
[13:40]	Jeremy Linden:	So, the Scouts work for a company called StarTek. To become a Scout, you'd have to apply here: http://careers.startek.com/
[13:41]	were you	asking how to contact Scouts via Live Chat? Or something else?
[13:42]	how to	become a Scout yourself :-)
[13:42]	LegoMan Karu:	How to become a scout
[13:42]	then what	J. said
[13:43]
[13:44]	yakov Ryba:	Well, ill be going.
[13:44]	Jeremy Linden:	Thanks for coming, yakov. Sorry we couldn't be more help.
[13:44]	yakov Ryba:	That's ok
[13:44]	yakov Ryba:	Later, lego.
[13:44]	LegoMan Karu:	you to
[13:46]	Jeremy Linden:	Rand, do you know what time the next office hour is going to be here?
[13:47]	let me	look it up...
[13:48]	m proposing	Thursdays at 1pm PT
[13:48]	LegoMan Karu:	Thats good time
[13:49]	I tried	to pick a time that did not conflict with any other User Group meeting
[13:49]	There will	be a general announcement on the 8th that gives all the details
[13:49]	Jeremy Linden:	Heh! That's almost the same time as my old TSL office hour.
[13:50]	for all	user groups
[13:50]	I think	there is now going to be a consolidated Teen UG
[13:50]	That Terrence	will be the spokesperson for
[13:51]	Nathan Adored:	Hmmmmm..... I just realised Jeremy's twitter picture makes it look like he has glowing eyes. Was he born in Midwich? :D
[13:51]	Nathan Adored	has pinged you.
[13:51]
[13:51]	LegoMan Karu:	Oh yeah me and Terrence are good firends
[13:51]	s a	nice guy...
[13:51]	LegoMan Karu:	thx
[13:51]	Jeremy Linden:	Oh, Nathan, that was a defining part of my avatar for a long time!
[13:52]	Jeremy Linden:	My bear has those eyes :-)
[13:52]	Nathan Adored:	Dern...... I mista missed that.
[13:52]	LegoMan Karu:	Whats a UG
[13:52]	Nathan Adored:	User Group?
[13:52]	LegoMan Karu:	oh k
[13:52]	yes User	Group
[13:52]	Jeremy Linden:	/me turns on his eyes.
[13:52]	LegoMan Karu:	oh ok now i know
[13:53]	LegoMan Karu:	have any of you guys seen Lexington and concord
[13:53]	they are	not going to call these meetings Office Hours any more...renaming them to User Groups
[13:53]	Jeremy Linden:	/me lives near Lexington and Concord.
[13:53]	LegoMan Karu:	I see
[13:53]	LegoMan Karu:	the sims i mean
[13:53]	no i	havent seen those
[13:53]	LegoMan Karu:	you should check them out in Little bit
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[13:54]	Nathan Adored:	Oh boy, what chairwarmer dreamed that one up? oO
[13:54]	LegoMan Karu:	A popular Place there the Combat sims
[13:54]	LegoMan Karu:	but they are safe zone there
[13:55]	I think	the idea is to emphasize that the discussion should center around Resident interest rather than a particular Linden
[13:55]	LegoMan Karu:	Yea true
[13:55]	Office Hours	brings to mind a college professor holding forth..but it should be more of a discussion
[13:55]	Jeremy Linden:	As I've been saying for the past few weeks, you can probably expect a more structured agenda for this office hour (uh, User Group) in the near future. Trust me, there'll be plenty to discuss :-)
[13:56]	LegoMan Karu:	So will there be a group to have office hours and we will have to join the group
[13:56]	re working	on some good stuff that we'll be able to discuss soon....
[13:56]	Arawn Graalrd	(arawn.spitteler): The original idea, was from academia, and college proffessors should have different styles
[13:56]	I think	you can just show up to the UGs that you're interested in
[13:56]	LegoMan Karu:	Seems like a Good idea
[13:56]
[13:57]	Jeremy Linden:	I don't think you'll need to join any groups, Lego, but we'll probably be a bit more diligent about discussing our specific topics.
[13:57]	LegoMan Karu:	hmm Intesting
[13:57]	Arawn Graalrd	(arawn.spitteler): /me still doesn't understand why CG discontinued, but suspects he'd been investing too much time in preparation
[13:57]	ll try	to stay focussed on the UG topic and there will likely be other Lindens involved
[13:57]	in this	one in particular)
[13:57]	LegoMan Karu:	hmm Good idea
[13:58]	t here	earlier, but there will be a general announcement on 2/8 about the future of Office Hours....
[13:58]	Arawn Graalrd	(arawn.spitteler): /me imagines Jeremy writing up the documentation on how to hold the Office Hours
[13:58]	Arawn Spitteler	has pinged you.
[13:58]	LegoMan Karu:	is UG on the internet yet or has not been relased yet
[13:58]	which are	now going to be called User Groups
[13:58]	Not yet	realeased....
[13:58]	LegoMan Karu:	k
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[13:58]	Arawn Graalrd	(arawn.spitteler): So, they'll be User Group Format, rather than Office Hour Format?
[13:58]	LegoMan Karu:	Whos going to write the blog
[13:59]	Jeremy Linden:	To recap: Today is the last "Documentation Office Hour", but the replacement will be announced next week on 2/8
[13:59]	I suspect	Amanda Linden
[13:59]	LegoMan Karu:	k
[13:59]	Arawn Graalrd	(arawn.spitteler): I know some interest areas have been without hours, and hours weren't arranged with any interest for interest
[13:59]	LegoMan Karu:	k
[13:59]	I believe	some thought has gone into coming up with User Groups that will address most if not all areas of interest
[14:00]	and if	there are ones that were missed, then discussion will be open on starting those...
[14:00]	Arawn Graalrd	(arawn.spitteler): Part of Office Hours were to introduce Lindens to End Users, if you actually believe in Users, and other religions mythos. Requiring special rules is probably what held a lot of them back
[14:00]	Time Minder:	You have been online for 1 hours.
[14:00]	m not	in charge)
[14:00]	Nathan Adored:	Religions like the one in TRON? :D
[14:00]	Jeremy Linden:	/me is not a program!
[14:01]	Nathan Adored:	Where the programs worshipped the mythical Users? :D
[14:01]	Arawn Graalrd	(arawn.spitteler): You don't believe in Users, do you?
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[14:01]	Daniel Voyager:	Hiya
[14:01]	Arawn Graalrd	(arawn.spitteler): Those Lindens who believe in Users will receive the standard substandard training.
[14:02]	Jeremy Linden:	From what I heard at HQ last week, we're going to be taking a long, hard look at the best ways to get feedback about what you guys really want from Second Life. That will probably involve a bit more structure to how our interactions work, but it should also mean that widespread concerns are heard and acted upon faster. And, you know, at all. ;-)
[14:02]	what Jeremy	said...
[14:02]	Rand Linden	has pinged you.
[14:02]	LegoMan Karu:	Thats Good i like that
[14:03]	for those	who weren't here earlier, look for a blog on the 8th that describes the new User Groups program...
[14:03]	Daniel Voyager:	cool
[14:04]	and this	OH will morph into "Community Tools" that will be held Thursdays @ 1pm PT
[14:04]	but I	need to dash off!
[14:04]	Jeremy Linden:	Same place, new sign!
[14:04]	LegoMan Karu:	where
[14:04]	LegoMan Karu:	oh k
[14:04]	Nice chatting	with you all!
[14:04]	Jeremy Linden:	I might need to find more seats, too :-)
[14:04]	Daniel Voyager:	cya
[14:04]	LegoMan Karu:	you to
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[14:05]	Jeremy Linden:	I'll cut here for the transcript. Thanks everyone for coming and listening, even after I couldn't make it last week.

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