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Transcript for Thursday April 28, 2011
| [12:04] | Noelle Linden | hello! |
| [12:04] | ç´ æ€§ (identity.euler) | hi ã‹¡ |
| [12:04] | Avatars-3d.com (surfaqua.oh) | Bonsoir noelle |
| [12:04] | Noelle Linden | bonsoir ! |
| [12:05] | Noelle Linden | how are you? |
| [12:05] | Noelle Linden | small crowd tonight :-) |
| [12:05] | ç´ æ€§ (identity.euler) | It is spring - weather is great ^^ |
| [12:05] | Torben (torben.trautman) | they are still recovering from the bunny hunt |
| [12:05] | Noelle Linden | ah ah |
| [12:05] | Noelle Linden | did you have a good Easter? |
| [12:05] | Torben (torben.trautman) | yes :) |
| [12:05] | Torben (torben.trautman) | it was like summer :) |
| [12:05] | Noelle Linden | not too much chocolate? |
| [12:06] | Noelle Linden | It's summer like in France I know |
| [12:06] | Torben (torben.trautman) | hehe, can it ever be too much? |
| [12:06] | Noelle Linden | very warm and dry |
| [12:07] | Noelle Linden | I was wondering if we could go to the KB / Lithium page on the wiki |
| [12:07] | Noelle Linden | let me give you the link |
| [12:07] | Noelle Linden | https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Platform_KB_Translation_Project |
| [12:08] | Noelle Linden | I'd like to go over articles that were localized and the ones that need localization |
| [12:08] | Torben (torben.trautman) | ok |
| [12:09] | Noelle Linden | currently, in Spanish, 4 articles were published in Lithium |
| [12:09] | Noelle Linden | http://secondlife.com/corporate/cs.php |
| [12:09] | Noelle Linden | http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Release-notes/ta-p/743443 |
| [12:10] | Noelle Linden | How to contact customer support |
| [12:10] | Noelle Linden | and |
| [12:10] | Noelle Linden | Community Standards |
| [12:10] | Noelle Linden | Guidelines, sorry |
| [12:11] | Torben (torben.trautman) | hi gefeit |
| [12:11] | Noelle Linden | there is another one in English that is ready for you to grab |
| [12:11] | Noelle Linden | http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/How-to-report-a-bug-or-request-a-feature/ta-p/733545 |
| [12:11] | Torben (torben.trautman) | I think nobody from spain is here? |
| [12:11] | ç´ æ€§ (identity.euler) | hi Youri ã‹¡ |
| [12:11] | Noelle Linden | and About the Second Life Knowledge Base |
| [12:11] | Noelle Linden | and |
| [12:11] | Noelle Linden | Usernames |
| [12:11] | Torben (torben.trautman) | hi Youri :) |
| [12:12] | Youri Ashton | hello, sorry for being late, had a few RL things to do |
| [12:12] | Noelle Linden | hi :-) |
| [12:12] | gefeit Dufaux | hi all |
| [12:12] | Noelle Linden | Hi Gefeit! |
| [12:12] | Noelle Linden | welcome |
| [12:12] | gefeit Dufaux | thank you ^^ |
| [12:12] | Noelle Linden | Gefeit is new to this group |
| [12:12] | Torben (torben.trautman) | welcome :) |
| [12:12] | Noelle Linden | and his language is Chinese |
| [12:12] | Torben (torben.trautman) | WOOOHOOO!!!! |
| [12:12] | Youri Ashton | welcome in the group gefeit! ^_^ |
| [12:13] | Noelle Linden | there is no one from Spain today |
| [12:13] | Torben (torben.trautman) | 欢迎 |
| [12:13] | Torben (torben.trautman) | (powered by google) |
| [12:13] | Noelle Linden | it's very late for you Gefeit! |
| [12:13] | Youri Ashton | noelle, i know i didnt bother with a notecard to stay in, but i think you know that even though i do it all alone and not really happy and all, i still keep doing it |
| [12:13] | Avatars-3d.com (surfaqua.oh) | hi gefeit :-) |
| [12:14] | Noelle Linden | hi Youri, glad to know :-) |
| [12:14] | gefeit Dufaux | hi |
| [12:14] | Torben (torben.trautman) | do we need to send a notecard if we attend meetings? |
| [12:14] | Noelle Linden | Gefeit will be working on the viewer |
| [12:14] | Youri Ashton | in the coming weeks i will be very busy with my friends wedding though, so not much time left for sl :( |
| [12:14] | Noelle Linden | into traditional Chinese |
| [12:15] | Noelle Linden | no problem Youri |
| [12:15] | Youri Ashton | no torben, about staying in the group and working on translations or not :) |
| [12:15] | Torben (torben.trautman) | that´s what I mean |
| [12:15] | Torben (torben.trautman) | I didn´t send a notecard because I figured that participation counts |
| [12:15] | Noelle Linden | this is fine Torben, I know you |
| [12:15] | Torben (torben.trautman) | k :) |
| [12:15] | Noelle Linden | are here every week |
| [12:15] | Noelle Linden | :-) |
| [12:16] | Torben (torben.trautman) | welcome back Identity |
| [12:16] | Youri Ashton | /me noms iccecream |
| [12:17] | Noelle Linden | so anyway, it seems that for KB articles there is some work for you to do, at least in the 4 main languages |
| [12:17] | Youri Ashton | hey rand |
| [12:17] | Torben (torben.trautman) | hi Rand |
| [12:17] | Rand (rand.linden) | Howdy! |
| [12:17] | Avatars-3d.com (surfaqua.oh) | hi rand |
| [12:17] | Torben (torben.trautman) | Noelle, this one is ready to publish: http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Deutsche-Knowledge-Base/Einen-Fehler-melden-oder-neue-Funktionen-vorschlagen/ta-p/813385/ |
| [12:17] | Noelle Linden | We definitely need some help in French and Portuguese |
| [12:18] | Torben (torben.trautman) | and this one needs to be republished because the labels were missing: http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Deutsche-Knowledge-Base/Den-Kunden-Support-kontaktieren/ta-p/809287/ |
| [12:18] | Noelle Linden | thank you Torben, this is great |
| [12:18] | Noelle Linden | thanks! |
| [12:18] | Torben (torben.trautman) | and we need help in german! |
| [12:19] | Torben (torben.trautman) | Youri, if you learn german, I learn dutch |
| [12:19] | Torben (torben.trautman) | then we can help each other :) |
| [12:19] | Noelle Linden | Torben, did you see the e-mail I sent you? |
| [12:19] | ç´ æ€§ (identity.euler) | My German is very poor :( |
| [12:19] | Torben (torben.trautman) | yes, I sent you a reply |
| [12:19] | Noelle Linden | h haven't seen it yet |
| [12:19] | Torben (torben.trautman) | you´ll like it |
| [12:19] | Noelle Linden | sounds good, thank you! |
| [12:19] | Noelle Linden | ;-) |
| [12:20] | Torben (torben.trautman) | I sent it as private message on the community platform |
| [12:20] | Noelle Linden | Rand, we had a question about adding Polish KB articles in Lithium |
| [12:20] | Torben (torben.trautman) | Rand, is there any news on the html war front? |
| [12:21] | Rand (rand.linden) | So I have a |
| [12:21] | Noelle Linden | from Identity |
| [12:21] | Rand (rand.linden) | oops |
| [12:21] | Rand (rand.linden) | heh |
| [12:21] | Rand (rand.linden) | so, to add a new lang to the KB would require a sepaerate 'board' in Lithium terminology |
| [12:21] | Rand (rand.linden) | Just like we have the German KB, French KB, etc, we would have to add a Polish KB |
| [12:22] | Rand (rand.linden) | But we are in the same position with Italian, Japanese, etc. |
| [12:22] | Noelle Linden | yes, we will have to add Japanese soon |
| [12:22] | Youri Ashton | nothing for the dutch translations yet? |
| [12:22] | Noelle Linden | how long does it take? |
| [12:22] | Rand (rand.linden) | Noelle, I suggest we put together a plan and present to Raymond, et. al. re new KBs |
| [12:22] | ç´ æ€§ (identity.euler) | And Polish Forum |
| [12:22] | ç´ æ€§ (identity.euler) | if it is possible |
| [12:23] | Rand (rand.linden) | I'm not really sure... I don't *think* it's that much work |
| [12:23] | Noelle Linden | I guess we can talk about that offline Rand |
| [12:23] | Rand (rand.linden) | sure |
| [12:23] | Noelle Linden | ok |
| [12:23] | Rand (rand.linden) | Torben, to answer your question about HTML... |
| [12:23] | Rand (rand.linden) | Unfortunately, we are at the mercy of Lithium... |
| [12:23] | Rand (rand.linden) | we added your observation, which i confirmed, to the bug report |
| [12:23] | Torben (torben.trautman) | :) |
| [12:24] | Torben (torben.trautman) | I´ll keep my fingers crossed then |
| [12:24] | Rand (rand.linden) | Raymond may know the status beyond that, but that's all i know |
| [12:24] | Rand (rand.linden) | ok, thx |
| [12:24] | Rand (rand.linden) | Also I have a question for you all... |
| [12:24] | Youri Ashton | RE: nothing for the dutch translations yet? |
| [12:24] | Youri Ashton | ask rand :) |
| [12:24] | Rand (rand.linden) | Youri, are you asking about adding a Dutch KB? |
| [12:25] | Rand (rand.linden) | Not sure i understand the question |
| [12:25] | Youri Ashton | asking in general really, i havnt done anything in a long time now |
| [12:25] | Rand (rand.linden) | At this point, Dutch translations would stay on the wiki |
| [12:25] | Youri Ashton | could see it from 2 sides though |
| [12:25] | Youri Ashton | kk |
| [12:25] | Rand (rand.linden) | Since Lithium is only supporting German, French, Spanish, and Pt. |
| [12:26] | Youri Ashton | okay, then ill wait for that to change |
| [12:26] | Rand (rand.linden) | Dutch, Polish, Italian, Japanese, all are in the same boat |
| [12:26] | Noelle Linden | so only "official" languages are supported in Lithium |
| [12:26] | Noelle Linden | for now at least |
| [12:26] | Rand (rand.linden) | So, the wiki is still an information resource, FYI |
| [12:26] | Rand (rand.linden) | It holds many "Linden Lab Official" articles |
| [12:26] | Rand (rand.linden) | as well as what we're referring to as the "Extended Knowledge Base" |
| [12:27] | ç´ æ€§ (identity.euler) | and Danish |
| [12:27] | Rand (rand.linden) | https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Extended_Knowledge_Base |
| [12:27] | Rand (rand.linden) | Personally, I would encourage continued translation work there for the "other" langs |
| [12:27] | Rand (rand.linden) | But really it is up to Noelle |
| [12:27] | Youri Ashton | grrrr @ new viewer versions reverting to default mode on all windows and settings <.< |
| [12:28] | Rand (rand.linden) | youri +1 ... that IS annoying! |
| [12:28] | Noelle Linden | I agree to do it this way Rand |
| [12:28] | Noelle Linden | on the wiki |
| [12:28] | Rand (rand.linden) | OK great |
| [12:28] | Rand (rand.linden) | Until we get the new langs into Lithium...teh wiki is the venue |
| [12:28] | Youri Ashton | the one responsable for that part needs a good kick in the rear end and needs to fix it right away <.< |
| [12:29] | Rand (rand.linden) | Youri: lol |
| [12:29] | Noelle Linden | ah ahh |
| [12:29] | Rand (rand.linden) | We should probably do some work to organize the translated content there |
| [12:29] | Rand (rand.linden) | we should at least keep track of recent translations on the wiki |
| [12:30] | Youri Ashton | good idea rand |
| [12:30] | Rand (rand.linden) | So we know what's current and what is not... |
| [12:30] | Youri Ashton | then we can not get lost in that forrest |
| [12:30] | Rand (rand.linden) | heh yep |
| [12:30] | Noelle Linden | so Rand, when translators have a translation of a KB article not suggested in the KB Translation Project |
| [12:30] | Rand (rand.linden) | So, my question is about a few articles that I am working on moving from wiki to Lithium.... |
| [12:30] | oobscure (opensource.obscure) | hello everybody back. sorry if i was mute before, i was in the car, connected via phone |
| [12:30] | Noelle Linden | they should probably use the wiki too as a venue |
| [12:30] | Youri Ashton | wb oob :) |
| [12:30] | Noelle Linden | for all languages |
| [12:30] | Torben (torben.trautman) | welcome back OO |
| [12:30] | Rand (rand.linden) | Yes, Noelle... |
| [12:31] | Noelle Linden | OO in SL while driving?? |
| [12:31] | Youri Ashton | perhaps add dates when it was change and updated |
| [12:31] | Rand (rand.linden) | To be clear: if the English article is in the wiki OR the lang is not one of the four "official" langs, then content should stay in wiki |
| [12:31] | Noelle Linden | yes |
| [12:31] | Rand (rand.linden) | If and until we are able to add new langs to Lithium |
| [12:31] | Rand (rand.linden) | So, that kinds of plays into the question I was about to pose |
| [12:32] | Rand (rand.linden) | Regarding a few articles I am moving to Lithium from wiki |
| [12:32] | Rand (rand.linden) | https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/KB_Migration_-_Second_Batch |
| [12:32] | Youri Ashton | additional info on the work progress + finished work should be both handy for the translators as the people needing the info |
| [12:32] | Rand (rand.linden) | Please look at the "Non-English Articles" section |
| [12:32] | Rand (rand.linden) | I notice that most or all of these are marked as old or unofficial translations |
| [12:32] | Noelle Linden | yes |
| [12:32] | Rand (rand.linden) | SO... my question is: should I move them over to Lithium with their English counterparts ? |
| [12:32] | Youri Ashton | french, spanish, german so far i see |
| [12:33] | Noelle Linden | they need to be updated probably |
| [12:33] | Rand (rand.linden) | OR not bother, and let you guys just re-translate when we get them in Lithum? |
| [12:33] | Rand (rand.linden) | So.... don't bother moving them? |
| [12:33] | Torben (torben.trautman) | I suggest not to bother |
| [12:33] | Noelle Linden | I think we should move them |
| [12:33] | Youri Ashton | think it's best to have the translators read and improve where needed |
| [12:33] | Noelle Linden | and update them in Lithium |
| [12:34] | Youri Ashton | no need to have work from work, pointless |
| [12:34] | Rand (rand.linden) | Hm, I am hearing two different answers! :-) |
| [12:34] | Noelle Linden | hum |
| [12:34] | ç´ æ€§ (identity.euler) | :D |
| [12:34] | Noelle Linden | ;-) |
| [12:34] | Torben (torben.trautman) | for me it would be easier not to bother |
| [12:34] | Torben (torben.trautman) | because then it makes me look at the article |
| [12:34] | Noelle Linden | ok, well you are the ones to decide |
| [12:34] | Noelle Linden | ok |
| [12:34] | Torben (torben.trautman) | and when I figure out it is up to date I can still copy/paste |
| [12:35] | Rand (rand.linden) | OK that is fine... less work for me :-) |
| [12:35] | Noelle Linden | so you want to retranslate from scratch reusing the existing translation from the wiki when possible |
| [12:35] | Torben (torben.trautman) | I figured you´d like that answer ;) |
| [12:35] | Noelle Linden | this is fine for me |
| [12:35] | Rand (rand.linden) | I think that makes some sense, because we will probably do some rewriting and editing of the English content after we move them over |
| [12:35] | Torben (torben.trautman) | yes Noelle |
| [12:35] | Youri Ashton | well as i said, and is pretty much the same as Torben said for that matter, but I think we best check for possible flaws in translations and fix that before posting it again |
| [12:35] | Noelle Linden | ok |
| [12:36] | Youri Ashton | could help a lot and for sure no one will complaint about some small flaws that might be in it |
| [12:36] | Noelle Linden | sounds good to me |
| [12:36] | Torben (torben.trautman) | on a sidenote but somehow related... Rand, any news if we can have access to the Doc jira? |
| [12:36] | Youri Ashton | i just wanted to make sure we didnt do all the translating all over again, that is the part which doesn't make sense :p |
| [12:37] | Rand (rand.linden) | Torben: Unfortunately, I don't think so at this point |
| [12:37] | Torben (torben.trautman) | ok |
| [12:37] | Rand (rand.linden) | If it were up to me, YES... :-) but it is not my decision |
| [12:37] | Torben (torben.trautman) | that´s totally fine :) |
| [12:37] | Rand (rand.linden) | Perhaps we can come up with some other task management tool... |
| [12:37] | Torben (torben.trautman) | we just need to think of an alternative |
| [12:37] | Rand (rand.linden) | yes |
| [12:38] | Torben (torben.trautman) | I could get a educator´s jira license and host a jira from home ;) |
| [12:38] | Rand (rand.linden) | One thought: which projects ARE public in Jira? |
| [12:38] | Rand (rand.linden) | Ha |
| [12:38] | Rand (rand.linden) | i.e. maybe we could use one of those existing projects (assuming we can get the ok to do that) |
| [12:38] | Rand (rand.linden) | WEB is public, right? |
| [12:38] | Torben (torben.trautman) | yes |
| [12:38] | Torben (torben.trautman) | or we could use CT |
| [12:39] | Rand (rand.linden) | Does that still work? |
| [12:39] | Torben (torben.trautman) | it would just need a different set of permissions |
| [12:39] | Youri Ashton | oh noelle, i noticed a griefer a few days ago in this sim. it might be wise to have a few of us in sim mod/admin mode so we can actually make sure nothing sticks around incase of an attack on the sim |
| [12:39] | Noelle Linden | CT still works |
| [12:39] | Torben (torben.trautman) | and CT isn´t public |
| [12:39] | Torben (torben.trautman) | it´s for the Translator2 group I believe |
| [12:39] | Noelle Linden | really Youri? |
| [12:39] | Youri Ashton | really |
| [12:39] | Noelle Linden | I think I will close access once the meeting is over |
| [12:39] | oobscure (opensource.obscure) | it seems I can't see CT currently |
| [12:40] | Youri Ashton | 1 day old avi |
| [12:40] | Noelle Linden | it will be safer |
| [12:40] | Youri Ashton | newbie male |
| [12:40] | Torben (torben.trautman) | OO you need to be added to the Translator2 group then |
| [12:41] | Torben (torben.trautman) | Rand, I can put some thought in it and write it down somewhere on the wiki if that helps |
| [12:41] | Rand (rand.linden) | Torben that would be great |
| [12:41] | Youri Ashton | dont have to close the sim, just saying it might be wise to have a few trusted translators some kick/sim ban options just in case :p |
| [12:41] | Torben (torben.trautman) | okies |
| [12:41] | Rand (rand.linden) | Like workflow, process, and "best practices" in using Jira for translators |
| [12:42] | ç´ æ€§ (identity.euler) | the scripts can be turned off here |
| [12:42] | Torben (torben.trautman) | yes |
| [12:42] | Torben (torben.trautman) | flowchart time :) |
| [12:42] | Torben (torben.trautman) | WOOOHOOO!!!! |
| [12:42] | ç´ æ€§ (identity.euler) | it should limit grifers attacks |
| [12:42] | Youri Ashton | think that will kill the scripts in avitars as well incase rezzing here <.< |
| [12:43] | Youri Ashton | and since im using this as home, rather not have those disabled <.< |
| [12:43] | Rand (rand.linden) | Another question... I noticed quite a bit of commentary in https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Knowledge_Base_Label_Translations |
| [12:43] | Rand (rand.linden) | In the German section... :-) |
| [12:43] | Rand (rand.linden) | Noelle, perhaps we should take a second look at some of the label translations? |
| [12:43] | Torben (torben.trautman) | I do have some objections |
| [12:44] | Noelle Linden | wooohh |
| [12:44] | Noelle Linden | lots of comments |
| [12:44] | Torben (torben.trautman) | for example "account" should not be changed as we use it in many different places |
| [12:44] | oobscure (opensource.obscure) | (( sorry if you already mentioned this - my questions is: as an Italian - English translator, my only current playground is supposed to be the SL wiki. true/false ? )) |
| [12:44] | Torben (torben.trautman) | didn´t have time to comment yet |
| [12:44] | Noelle Linden | I agree with Torben |
| [12:44] | Noelle Linden | we have to be careful about that |
| [12:44] | Youri Ashton | that first one stays 'griefing', best not translate that |
| [12:44] | Torben (torben.trautman) | maybe we can postpone this for next meeting or so? |
| [12:44] | Noelle Linden | OO for now yes |
| [12:45] | oobscure (opensource.obscure) | fine, thanks Noelle |
| [12:45] | Noelle Linden | but if we add Italian back to the list of "official" languages, that might change |
| [12:45] | Rand (rand.linden) | Torben: Find to postpone the discussion, but I wanted to make others aware of this document |
| [12:45] | Torben (torben.trautman) | hehe sorry :) |
| [12:45] | Rand (rand.linden) | Also, perhaps some French, Spanish, or Pt. speakers want to add comments? |
| [12:46] | Youri Ashton | Torben: no worries :p |
| [12:46] | Torben (torben.trautman) | but maybe we could change one term immediately? |
| [12:46] | Noelle Linden | Torben, find some time to review the comments in German if you can |
| [12:46] | Torben (torben.trautman) | Getting started is translated as "Anfänger" |
| [12:46] | Torben (torben.trautman) | but "Anfänger" means N00B |
| [12:46] | Youri Ashton | best not call a griefer a noob, you wont really get their thanks :p |
| [12:47] | Torben (torben.trautman) | so some articles in the german kb are labelled Noobzor |
| [12:47] | Rand (rand.linden) | well, we could just use the term "Newbie" in all langs... Just Kidding! :-) |
| [12:47] | Torben (torben.trautman) | hehehe |
| [12:47] | Rand (rand.linden) | What do you suggest as an alternative? |
| [12:47] | Torben (torben.trautman) | I would suggest "Erste Schritte" |
| [12:47] | Torben (torben.trautman) | it means first steps |
| [12:47] | Rand (rand.linden) | Ah OK, I will add that to the table now. |
| [12:47] | Noelle Linden | ok |
| [12:48] | Torben (torben.trautman) | :) |
| [12:48] | Youri Ashton | torben, just do as I try to do. change the word if needed to something that means the same but is not offending or possibly in that direction. or at least sounds a lot better |
| [12:48] | Torben (torben.trautman) | yes Youri but we can´t change labels |
| [12:48] | Youri Ashton | widen the idea spectrum on words :) |
| [12:48] | Torben (torben.trautman) | only the allmighties can ;) |
| [12:48] | Noelle Linden | lol |
| [12:49] | Rand (rand.linden) | Right, these are the built-in Lithium labels |
| [12:49] | Rand (rand.linden) | Well not built-in really, but only Admins can change |
| [12:49] | Rand (rand.linden) | One thing: if we change a label we may have to go in and re-apply it to all the articles |
| [12:49] | Youri Ashton | in that case, torben make a notecard with changes and harras rand with it :p |
| [12:49] | Youri Ashton | hehe |
| [12:49] | Rand (rand.linden) | I don't think it will just change automatically everywhere |
| [12:49] | Rand (rand.linden) | haha |
| [12:50] | Torben (torben.trautman) | I refrain from harassing Lindens since I once asked for special treatment and Lexie offered to send me into the cornfields |
| [12:50] | Noelle Linden | ;-) |
| [12:50] | Youri Ashton | cornfields aint that bad :p |
| [12:50] | Youri Ashton | been there lots of times :p |
| [12:51] | Torben (torben.trautman) | but I bet she would have turned the tv´s off first ;) |
| [12:51] | Youri Ashton | lol, Blue used to take us all into there :p |
| [12:51] | Youri Ashton | during his OH |
| [12:51] | Torben (torben.trautman) | :) |
| [12:51] | Youri Ashton | golden times, R.I.P. Blue Linden :( |
| [12:52] | Rand (rand.linden) | :-( |
| [12:52] | Rand (rand.linden) | Well, life goes on... Second Life goes on, that is... |
| [12:52] | Noelle Linden | lol |
| [12:52] | Torben (torben.trautman) | maybe he found something new and exciting :) |
| [12:52] | Torben (torben.trautman) | you never know |
| [12:53] | Rand (rand.linden) | I am asking Lexie now about changing labels... |
| [12:53] | Youri Ashton | might be so, doesnt mean we miss him and other lindens less :p |
| [12:53] | Rand (rand.linden) | Yeah, I haven't heard from Blue... |
| [12:53] | Noelle Linden | thanks Rand |
| [12:53] | Torben (torben.trautman) | Noelle, should I post the transcript? |
| [12:53] | Noelle Linden | Torben please do! |
| [12:53] | Torben (torben.trautman) | ok |
| [12:53] | Noelle Linden | thank you |
| [12:53] | Youri Ashton | oh! bad rand! you missed one of the best lindens ever ^_^ |
| [12:54] | Noelle Linden | anything else for today? |
| [12:54] | Rand (rand.linden) | Youri: I did know him "back when" but I haven't heard anything from him since... |
| [12:54] | Youri Ashton | he said he would offer me friendship on his normal avi, but so far i havnt seen him |
| [12:55] | Torben (torben.trautman) | nothing from me :) |
| [12:55] | Youri Ashton | i do have pathfinder in my list still |
| [12:55] | Noelle Linden | next week, we will meet for 1/2 hour only |
| [12:55] | Noelle Linden | at 12 - 12:30 |
| [12:55] | oobscure (opensource.obscure) | ok |
| [12:55] | Rand (rand.linden) | OK... see you all then! |
| [12:55] | Noelle Linden | sounds good to you all? |
| [12:55] | Torben (torben.trautman) | okies |
| [12:55] | Noelle Linden | thanks so much for coming |
| [12:55] | Youri Ashton | got philip, dessie, amanda, kate, lexie, mia, infinity and fisher in my friends list :) |
| [12:55] | Avatars-3d.com (surfaqua.oh) | is ok for me |
| [12:55] | ç´ æ€§ (identity.euler) | see you next week |
| [12:55] | oobscure (opensource.obscure) | thank you - and take care you all |
| [12:55] | Noelle Linden | have a wonderful night |
| [12:56] | Noelle Linden | bye! |
| [12:56] | Torben (torben.trautman) | have a great week everybody |
| [12:56] | Youri Ashton | thank you for having us noelle :) |
| [12:56] | Youri Ashton | and give your little one a big hug for me :) |
| [12:56] | Torben (torben.trautman) | and off to amanda :) |
| [12:56] | Rand (rand.linden) | bye all |
| [12:56] | Youri Ashton | got infinity on facebook as well btw :p |
| [12:56] | Avatars-3d.com (surfaqua.oh) | bye all i too :-) |
| [12:56] | Noelle Linden | bye! |
| [12:56] | Youri Ashton | byt surf |