User:Benjamin Linden/Office Hours/2007 Oct 25

Transcript of Benjamin Linden's office hours:

[15:04]	Jacek Antonelli:	Heyo, Ben!
[15:05]	Digi Tal:	yay!
[15:05]	Benjamin Linden:	oops sorry Jason
[15:05]	Benjamin Linden:	hi folks!
[15:05]	Squirrel Wood:	Hello Benjamin ^^
[15:05]	Jason Swain:	Np Ben
[15:05]	Disconnected from in-world Voice Chat
[15:05]	Squirrel Wood:	https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2876 ^^
[15:05]	Benjamin Linden:	I have a meeting that ran over
[15:05]	Benjamin Linden:	nice hat Jacek :-)
[15:05]	Kooky Jetaime:	heh
[15:06]	Benjamin Linden:	so did anyone happen to see that I posted the preview files for the new UI skin to the wiki a few days ago?
[15:06]	Digi Tal:	yes, using now
[15:06]	Squirrel Wood:	what was the url again?
[15:06]	Kooky Jetaime:	ooh
[15:06]	Jacek Antonelli:	hehe, thanks
[15:06]	Benjamin Linden:	oh great!
[15:06]	Kooky Jetaime:	thats an interesting bug
[15:06]	Benjamin Linden:	https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Viewer_Visual_Update
[15:06]	Benjamin Linden:	what do you think Digi?
[15:06]	Digi Tal:	you have too much hard coded rgb in the xui files, remove the hardcoding and the colours all work right
[15:07]	Benjamin Linden:	which ones, Digi?
[15:07]	Digi Tal:	looks good
[15:07]	Benjamin Linden:	which colors, rather
[15:07]	Coco Linden gave you Ah_Fuck.
[15:08]	Digi Tal:	basically a lot of ="1 1 1 1" and such that when removed or changed to ="TheNamedColorFromXML" allows colors_base.xml to properly specify what we should see
[15:08]	Digi Tal:	know what I mean?
[15:08]	Benjamin Linden:	can you point me to a specific place in the UI where it's an issue?
[15:08]	Benjamin Linden:	like is it the menus?
[15:09]	Digi Tal:	I will make up a notecard for you as I can illustrate it better
[15:09]	Benjamin Linden:	ok
[15:09]	Jason Swain will just relog, brb
[15:09]	Benjamin Linden:	so everyone else knows, you can download that zip file from the wiki and install the updated textures and color settings into your existing SL install
[15:09]	Benjamin Linden:	and see the new look
[15:10]	Digi Tal:	yes, try it, very easy to do and easy on the eyes!
[15:10]	Sabina Stenvaag:	sorry--was late--what zip file may i ask?
[15:10]	Benjamin Linden:	oh good I'm glad you like it Digi. it's still an early version with lots of rough edges but I think it's a good start
[15:11]	Jacek Antonelli:	Woo, crashes. Fun times.
[15:11]	Benjamin Linden:	Sabina, we're talking about a zip file that you can download from the wiki that will let you preview the new look and feel for the viewer
[15:11]	Benjamin Linden:	https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Viewer_Visual_Update
[15:11]	Benjamin Linden:	that has more info
[15:11]	Sabina Stenvaag:	ah Thansk!
[15:11]	Benjamin Linden:	Jacek, did the preview files crash your viewer?
[15:12]	Jacek Antonelli:	Nope, not using the preview files at the moment. Although I am running my custom-compiled viewer, which is not as stable as the official one
[15:12]	Benjamin Linden:	ah ok
[15:14]	Sabina Stenvaag:	downlading the zip file now goody!
[15:14]	Benjamin Linden:	so hopefully the rest of you will have a chance to check it out and give me feedback
[15:14]	Benjamin Linden:	or leave it in the wiki
[15:14]	Sabina Stenvaag:	screen shot is pretty! hee hee
[15:14]	Sabina Stenvaag:	gotta say about that ESC CSI client--i loved the tp history feature
[15:15]	Jacek Antonelli:	What all is in the zip file? XUI and image files, I'm guessing?
[15:15]	Benjamin Linden:	that's correct
[15:15]	Benjamin Linden:	yeah the ESC back button is very nice
[15:15]	Squirrel Wood:	Giovanna, your voice is active
[15:15]	Benjamin Linden:	what do folks think of the new sheep viewer?
[15:16]	Sabina Stenvaag:	the top bar wiht the 'buy button' is too big
[15:16]	Sabina Stenvaag:	takes up too much space
[15:16]	Sabina Stenvaag:	but pretty colors--like the one i jsut saw a screen shot of!
[15:16]	Benjamin Linden:	:-)
[15:16]	Benjamin Linden:	it's tough convincing developers that visual design matters :-)
[15:17]	Sabina Stenvaag:	i thihnk i still like this viewer--likley cause I'm jsut used to it 9the regular LL one)
[15:17]	Sabina Stenvaag:	inventory makes more sense to me than 'my stuff'
[15:18]	Benjamin Linden:	I sort of liked the "My Stuff" label -- I suspect it might make more sense to non-gamers
[15:18]	Benjamin Linden:	but I could be wrong about that
[15:18]	Benjamin Linden:	there aren't plans to change ours though :-)
[15:18]	Sabina Stenvaag:	ah good point--but I consider MYSLEF a non gamer--though I'm not tech illeterate either
[15:18]	Sabina Stenvaag:	can't type or spell though!
[15:19]	Benjamin Linden:	lol ok, point taken Sabina
[15:19]	Squirrel Wood:	if you have "My Stuff" you need something like "My crappy Stuff" and "Junk" and stuff ^^
[15:19]	Benjamin Linden:	UI text is hard to do well
[15:19]	Jacek Antonelli:	And "Other People's Stuff"? ;D
[15:19]	Benjamin Linden:	we've just been working on some changes to the About Land Access tab
[15:20]	Benjamin Linden:	and it's tricky coming up with the right phrasing for some of these things
[15:20]	Squirrel Wood:	Hmm
[15:20]	Squirrel Wood:	Would it be possible to add the current / max prim count for the parcel on top of the screen ?
[15:20]	Sabina Stenvaag:	oh that might be helpful!
[15:20]	Squirrel Wood:	where you have the sim name, parcel name and coordinates
[15:21]	Jacek Antonelli:	Ok, one last relog and I should be on fancy new UI!
[15:21]	Benjamin Linden:	excellent :-)
[15:21]	Sabina Stenvaag:	btw--i still dont fully understand the 'claimed" date on the about land tab
[15:21]	Squirrel Wood:	let me jira that real quick ^^
[15:21]	Jacek Antonelli:	Ahhh, shiny.
[15:21]	Jacek Antonelli licks her screen.
[15:21]	Benjamin Linden:	where is the claimed date Sabina
[15:21]	Jason Swain:	is the new UI 100% only 1.18.3(5) or might 1.18.4(0) work?
[15:21]	Sabina Stenvaag:	on the about land tab
[15:22]	Benjamin Linden:	that's an interesting suggestion Squirrel, but do you think it might make things even more cluttered?
[15:22]	Benjamin Linden:	do you like the shiny, Jacek?
[15:22]	Sabina Stenvaag:	general sorry
[15:22]	Sabina Stenvaag:	General in about land
[15:22]	Jacek Antonelli:	I'm running on 1.18.4 right now, the UI preview seems to be working fine
[15:22]	Benjamin Linden:	maybe that's the date you took ownership?
[15:22]	Sabina Stenvaag:	really Jacek--i was putting the files in the non-rc viewer!
[15:22]	Jason Swain:	Thanks Jacek
[15:23]	Jacek Antonelli:	The shiny is a little bit excessive, I think. Distracting.
[15:23]	Benjamin Linden:	yes, we plan to tone down the chrome on the buttons
[15:23]	Benjamin Linden:	it makes the text hard to read
[15:23]	Benjamin Linden:	what about the general colors?
[15:23]	Sabina Stenvaag:	Benjamin--it seems to be odd--and inconsistant--WAIT--i'll bet it changes when the land is deeded to a group now that i think about it
[15:24]	Benjamin Linden:	that's probably right, Sabina
[15:24]	Squirrel Wood:	https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2877
[15:24]	Sabina Stenvaag:	yep--thats prolly it! sorry!
[15:24]	Jacek Antonelli:	One thing I did like in the old viewer that this new update does not have -- is some strong visual difference between things that are buttons, and the background behind them
[15:25]	Kooky Jetaime:	Naaa
[15:25]	Kooky Jetaime:	we don't need more stuff there
[15:25]	Jacek Antonelli:	In the old one, it's blue buttons on gray background. But here, it's chrome on chrome
[15:25]	Kooky Jetaime:	Sorry squirrel
[15:25]	Jacek Antonelli:	I really like how the buttons light up when you hover the mouse over them, though :D
[15:26]	Benjamin Linden:	yes, we'll be working on creating more contrast between the buttons and the background too
[15:26]	Benjamin Linden:	good feedback Jacek
[15:27]	Jason Swain:	ok, Quick UI question on the new lag meter, if you click the narrow button (>>) then move the lag meter to the left of the screen, then click the widen button (<<) most of it is off screen, Shall I make a jira on this?
[15:28]	Tork Avro:	whatcha u guys doin?:)
[15:28]	Benjamin Linden:	is the new lag meter in RC Jason?
[15:28]	Kooky Jetaime:	new lag meter?
[15:28]	Jason Swain:	yes Ben
[15:28]	Benjamin Linden:	hi Tork, this is a user experience meeting, you're welcome to join us
[15:28]	Benjamin Linden:	hi Ciaran
[15:28]	Tork Avro:	kool ill listen in been playing or about 3 hours total
[15:28]	Benjamin Linden:	the RC client crashes my computer :-(
[15:28]	Tork Avro:	might be helpful
[15:28]	Ciaran Laval:	Hi Benjamin
[15:28]	Benjamin Linden:	so I haven't been able to use it
[15:29]	Kooky Jetaime:	Ben, thats... not a good thing
[15:29]	Jason Swain:	Does that sound like an issue I should jira?
[15:29]	Kooky Jetaime:	sure it does
[15:30]	Jason Swain:	Cool, just making it then ^^
[15:30]	Jacek Antonelli:	The new map icons are quite pleasing to the eye. A+ on the Infohub, Telehub, and Home symbols. I can't tell what the "Classifieds" button is supposed to resemble. Using "L$" for "Land for sale" might be a bit confusing, since a similar graphic is used for "Buy L$ online".
[15:31]	Kooky Jetaime:	heh, I need to try the new RC
[15:31]	Jacek Antonelli ponders what would be better than L$. Maybe a "For Sale" sign, like they put in front of houses?
[15:31]	Kooky Jetaime:	I'm still on the old RC
[15:31]	Jacek Antonelli:	Might be hard to convey in 32x32 pixels, alas.
[15:31]	Kooky Jetaime:	how bout a little "For Sale" sign like the orange and black ones?
[15:31]	Benjamin Linden:	yes, Jacek, we went round and round on those icons
[15:32]	Benjamin Linden:	I'm glad you like the general style
[15:32]	Benjamin Linden:	but I agree there are some legibility/comprehension issues
[15:32]	Jacek Antonelli nods
[15:32]	Benjamin Linden:	and actually these icons are 16x
[15:32]	Benjamin Linden:	so very small
[15:32]	Jacek Antonelli:	Oh dear
[15:32]	Kooky Jetaime:	uhm price tag?
[15:32]	Jacek Antonelli:	Yes, that is tough to work with
[15:32]	Benjamin Linden:	and we can't use english text on icons, for international purposes
[15:32]	Jacek Antonelli:	Right
[15:33]	Benjamin Linden:	we couldn't fit a price tag into the little jewel, Kooky :-)
[15:33]	Kooky Jetaime:	heh
[15:33]	Kooky Jetaime:	ok
[15:33]	Sabina Stenvaag:	brb--reloggin with new stuff
[15:33]	Jacek Antonelli:	Do you know what the image on the Classifieds button is? I'm really curious now
[15:34]	Tork Avro:	lol this is all greek to me :P
[15:34]	Ciaran Laval:	all geek Tork, all geek
[15:34]	Jacek Antonelli:	hehehe
[15:34]	Kooky Jetaime:	hahah
[15:34]	Tork Avro:	lol
[15:34]	Kooky Jetaime:	why you hiding way over there Ciaran?
[15:35]	Ciaran Laval:	There were no chairs I could use over there kooky
[15:35]	Benjamin Linden:	it's supposed to be a classifieds section of the newspaper
[15:35]	Benjamin Linden:	with an ad circled
[15:35]	Benjamin Linden:	:-)
[15:35]	Jacek Antonelli:	Ahh
[15:35]	Ciaran Laval:	Ahh I like that Ben
[15:35]	Tork Avro:	not many normal users seem to be at this landmark
[15:35]	Kooky Jetaime:	hmm
[15:35]	Benjamin Linden:	what's "normal" Tork?
[15:36]	Tork Avro:	he kooky doesnt jetaime mean i love u?
[15:36]	Jacek Antonelli:	We're all weirdos, I guess? :D
[15:36]	Tork Avro:	like u guys all of an impact on the game im just a citizen u guys the council
[15:37]	Sabina Stenvaag:	oh shiny yes!
[15:37]	Jason Swain:	Sorry Quick question, is that a bug or a new feature? (the question I asked earlier about the lag meter)
[15:37]	Squirrel Wood:	We're normal citizens too - just trying to help Linden Labs to make the client better ^^
[15:37]	Benjamin Linden:	Tork, everyone here is a Resident, just like you
[15:37]	Kooky Jetaime:	bug
[15:37]	Benjamin Linden:	everyone's welcome to join these meetings. I'm here to get your feedback about the User Interface
[15:37]	Kooky Jetaime:	new features are things not in the client that you'd like to see. bugs are everything else
[15:38]	Benjamin Linden:	Jason, I'd say it sounds like a bug
[15:38]	Jason Swain:	cool ok, bug it is, thanks ^^
[15:38]	Kooky Jetaime:	Benjamin - you should add "Improvement" option to VWR
[15:38]	Digi Tal gave you Viewer Visual Update Notes from Digi Tal.
[15:38]	Kooky Jetaime:	it exists in other areas
[15:38]	Tork Avro:	KOOL whats that!
[15:38]	Squirrel Wood:	wear the flight feather to get a better flight experience ^^
[15:38]	Kooky Jetaime:	because there are a lot of things that arn't bugs or new features but improvments
[15:38]	Squirrel Wood:	also it lets you fly above the cloud layer
[15:39]	Kooky Jetaime:	but since we're shoehorned into one or the other....
[15:39]	Jason Swain:	thats a great idea Kooky
[15:39]	Tork Avro:	THANKS SO MUCH
[15:39]	Tork Avro:	brb
[15:39]	Kooky Jetaime face palms.. now I need to make a jira issue for that jira issue....
[15:39]	Sabina Stenvaag:	want commetns on the new look?
[15:39]	Jason Swain:	http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2878
[15:39]	Jacek Antonelli:	Looking at inventory icons now. Love the icons for Script, Notecard, Calling Card, Texture, Sound, Trash, and the clothes (especially the underwear one. hehe! :D). The icons for Object / Composite Object aren't bad, but a bit too bright.
[15:40]	Jason Swain:	Now to try that new shinny (no pun) UI ^^
[15:40]	Sabina Stenvaag:	I liked the MORE transparent pie menus
[15:40]	Jacek Antonelli:	Ah, agreed there Sabina
[15:40]	Tork Avro:	squirell if u dont hvae dice i got some and a parrot
[15:40]	Benjamin Linden:	yes please Sabina
[15:40]	Sabina Stenvaag:	also I did like the search box at the top of the ESC CSI viewer, maybe
[15:41]	Squirrel Wood:	I've got waaaay too much stuff ^^
[15:41]	Tork Avro:	bummer
[15:41]	Sabina Stenvaag:	still lookin at it! but the colors are WAY better i think
[15:41]	Tork Avro:	wow
[15:41]	Benjamin Linden:	we're adding a search box to the viewer soon
[15:41]	Tork Avro:	i heard a gun shot
[15:41]	Tork Avro:	was that form the game
[15:41]	Sabina Stenvaag:	goody!
[15:41]	Jacek Antonelli:	Yes, Tork
[15:41]	Tork Avro:	WHEW
[15:41]	Benjamin Linden:	glad you like it overall Sabina
[15:42]	Sabina Stenvaag:	ok--my linden dollar balnce seems TOO light against the grey backgorund
[15:42]	Tork Avro:	anyways gott go eat rice a roni
[15:42]	Jacek Antonelli:	hehehe
[15:42]	Kooky Jetaime:	w
[15:42]	Kooky Jetaime:	wth?
[15:42]	Benjamin Linden:	lol
[15:42]	Sabina Stenvaag:	not sure if this was in the other viewers, but could the drop down menuse go a lil more transparent too?
[15:43]	Benjamin Linden:	yes Sabina, there are definitely some specific colors we need to work on
[15:43]	Benjamin Linden:	we might do some more transparency but we have to be careful with legibility
[15:43]	Jacek Antonelli:	I'm less thrilled about the Gesture and Animation icons. The blue blends in a bit too well with the blue-silver background. Hmm.
[15:43]	Digi Tal:	you can tinker with the colors_base.xml file yourselves to test too
[15:43]	Jacek Antonelli:	Heee! Just saw the icon for hairs. Oh, my, that is funny. :)
[15:44]	Roof Doors:	Kooky Jetaime is at the door.
[15:45]	Sabina Stenvaag:	im sure this has come up before--but for organizing inventory--theres gotta be some imporvements to it--not sure if thats a UI issue though.
[15:45]	Jason Swain:	brb, going to have a go with the new UI ^^
[15:45]	Jacek Antonelli:	I think this has been said elsewhere (on the wiki, perhaps), but the toxic green on the snapshot icon is rather intense. 8)
[15:45]	Jacek Antonelli:	hehe, hurry back Jason :D
[15:45]	Jason Swain:	ty
[15:45]	Kooky Jetaime:	Hmm I need to see if anyone jiraed a dedicated "Receiving" area
[15:45]	Kooky Jetaime:	brb
[15:46]	Jacek Antonelli:	Yeah, that would be nice, Kooky. An inbox, like.
[15:46]	Benjamin Linden:	I would *love* it if you guys played with the colors and came up with some suggestions
[15:46]	Benjamin Linden:	Sabina, inventory is *defintely* a UI issue
[15:46]	Digi Tal:	You have mine already :D
[15:46]	Benjamin Linden:	and we know we need to do something about it
[15:46]	Squirrel Wood:	hmm... suggestion... add an input field to the color picker for hex values ?
[15:46]	Jacek Antonelli:	Oooh, good one Squirrel
[15:46]	Benjamin Linden:	yes, thanks Digi
[15:46]	Sabina Stenvaag:	i would LOVBEto be able to change the name of several inventory objects at ONE time
[15:47]	Digi Tal:	Benjamin, does this update bring us closer to custom skinning or is that still off in the distance?
[15:47]	Benjamin Linden:	no, unfortunately there will be very little change to the underlying skinning architecture
[15:47]	Jason Swain:	Umm, its night time?
[15:48]	Jacek Antonelli:	Sabina: Could you got into that more, what you mean?
[15:48]	Benjamin Linden:	but this project helps us drive requirements into that larger effort
[15:48]	Benjamin Linden:	and also demonstrates what is possible today
[15:48]	Digi Tal:	cool, i did learn i can replace lots of files in my viewer so thank you
[15:48]	Sabina Stenvaag:	i've got a folder of items i only wear at soem sim--I want ALL items in that folder to be remamed at ONCE clothes, objects notecrds,
[15:49]	Sabina Stenvaag:	did that make sanse benjamine?
[15:49]	Jacek Antonelli:	Sabina: So, for example, you would want to be able to put "My Sim Name" at the front of the names of all those items?
[15:49]	Jason Swain:	It might just be my PC, but the text in the chat window is /really/ hard to read (UI = 0.75), mainly way too bright background
[15:49]	Jacek Antonelli:	Or some other text (that's just an example)
[15:49]	Sabina Stenvaag:	yes--or todays date
[15:50]	Jacek Antonelli:	That's a good idea
[15:50]	Sabina Stenvaag:	withOUT haveing to create another folder
[15:50]	Benjamin Linden:	yes Sabina, it does
[15:50]	Benjamin Linden:	yes, Jason, I agree
[15:50]	Jacek Antonelli:	Hello again, Tork!
[15:50]	Tork Avro:	HI:)
[15:50]	Benjamin Linden:	how was your rice a roni?
[15:50]	Tork Avro:	looked o history glad u guys got a god idea
[15:50]	Tork Avro:	HOT
[15:51]	Jacek Antonelli:	hehehe
[15:51]	Sabina Stenvaag:	also--duplicates get on my nerves--but i want SOME dupes--can we find duplicates in our inventoyr more easily?
[15:51]	Jason Swain:	I like the buttons though, I really hope that the leagablity will be fixed though
[15:51]	Tork Avro:	can i ask a question
[15:51]	Tork Avro:	may i *
[15:52]	Benjamin Linden:	we're working on revised buttons as we speak, jason
[15:52]	Jacek Antonelli:	That's another good idea, Sabina :D Maybe right click on something, and choose "Find Duplicates" -- would put a filter on the inventory, show all the objects with the same asset UUID?
[15:52]	Kooky Jetaime:	Ben - I'd love to be able to drag folders in inventory
[15:52]	Jason Swain:	on a posistive note, it looks very futuristic
[15:52]	Kooky Jetaime:	wait a sec
[15:52]	Kooky Jetaime:	theres something wrong with what I just said
[15:52]	Kooky Jetaime:	give me a min
[15:52]	Benjamin Linden:	what did you just say, Kooky?
[15:53]	Kooky Jetaime:	Copy folders
[15:53]	Kooky Jetaime:	it would be nice to copy folders in inventory
[15:53]	Jacek Antonelli:	Ah! Yes
[15:53]	Squirrel Wood:	Tork, if you have a question, just ask it ^^
[15:53]	Jacek Antonelli:	That would be nice too
[15:53]	Jason Swain:	I would say the chat text, would be unusable for myself, I cant stand lots of bright text
[15:53]	Jason Swain:	But the feel is really clean and tidy
[15:53]	Tork Avro:	i had just gotten go kart object then i dragged it to the ground and now its not on my list i guess i did something wrong
[15:54]	Jason Swain:	Menus are really nice too
[15:54]	Ciaran Laval:	Sounds like it was a no copy item Tork
[15:54]	Tork Avro:	HMMMM i see..whats a copy item sry rele new!
[15:54]	Jacek Antonelli:	Yes, the new UI definitely feels very clean and fresh
[15:54]	Popgun (drag onto yourself) whispers: Use Mouselook (press 'M') to shoot me.
[15:54]	Popgun (drag onto yourself) whispers: Choose 'Detach' from my menu to take me off.
[15:55]	Popgun (drag onto yourself) whispers: Use Mouselook (press 'M') to shoot me.
[15:55]	Popgun (drag onto yourself) whispers: Choose 'Detach' from my menu to take me off.
[15:55]	Sabina Stenvaag:	yes--i like it lots too
[15:55]	Kooky Jetaime:	tork that won't work here
[15:55]	Benjamin Linden:	glad you guys like it overall
[15:55]	Benjamin Linden:	we're working through the specific color problems
[15:55]	Digi Tal:	I have faith
[15:55]	Benjamin Linden:	I hope to have another preview package in a week or so
[15:55]	Squirrel Wood:	Things in Second Life sometimes have permissions set that may prevent you from doing certain things with them like, modify them or make copies of them.
[15:55]	Jacek Antonelli:	Cool, sounds great Ben
[15:56]	Sabina Stenvaag:	i like having as much of a view of SL world as possible--the more configurable i can get the consoles and lil pop up windows the better
[15:56]	Digi Tal:	Looking forward to it Ben.
[15:56]	Jason Swain:	I hate to sound negative, because I think that LL does a really good job, but will there still be support for the old colour system on the text?
[15:56]	Kooky Jetaime:	Benjamin - how bout getting a little more "Safe" context menus
[15:57]	Kooky Jetaime:	ie: moving "Delete" to the bottom, after a seperator
[15:57]	Kooky Jetaime:	I Managed to delete a new asset yesterday
[15:57]	Digi Tal:	Good idea Kooky
[15:58]	Kooky Jetaime:	And what bout a "Non-safe" delete
[15:58]	Jacek Antonelli:	Benjamin, do you happen to know if it's possible to access global settings (e.g. ChatHistoryBgColor) from XUI?
[15:58]	Benjamin Linden:	Jason, do you mean will you be able to go back to the purple buttons and dark gray windows?
[15:58]	Jacek Antonelli:	(access == read, I mean)
[15:58]	Tork Avro:	i already got it :)
[15:59]	Benjamin Linden:	we are moving delete, Kooky, a dev just picked that up today
[15:59]	Kooky Jetaime:	goodie
[15:59]	Jason Swain:	Just the text colour sycem, the black background with white text
[15:59]	Jason Swain:	the buttons are nice
[15:59]	Benjamin Linden:	we are hoping to provide some additional customizability for those colors
[16:00]	Benjamin Linden:	so you will hopefully be able to control them yourself
[16:00]	Benjamin Linden:	folks I just realized I have to run to another meeting
[16:00]	Sabina Stenvaag:	this was great THanks!
[16:00]	Jacek Antonelli:	Woops!
[16:00]	Benjamin Linden:	thanks so much for your feedback on the new UI
[16:00]	Digi Tal:	Don't forget you can adjust some colors in your preferences for chat text etc
[16:00]	Squirrel Wood:	meeting frenzy ^^
[16:00]	Sabina Stenvaag:	i like it!
[16:00]	Benjamin Linden:	please add your comments to the wiki page!
[16:00]	Jason Swain:	That would be great Benjamin, is there a jira to vote for that?
[16:00]	Sabina Stenvaag:	ah right ok!
[16:00]	Jacek Antonelli:	Bye, Ben! Good job to you and the rest of the team :D
[16:00]	Tork Avro:	it was awesome metting the famous linden man!
[16:00]	Benjamin Linden:	it's very helpful for us to read your feedback
[16:00]	Kooky Jetaime makes a list, cache idea w/complete prim list,
[16:00]	Kooky Jetaime:	hehehehe
[16:00]	Benjamin Linden:	haha likewise Tork
[16:00]	Ciaran Laval:	Cheers Ben
[16:00]	Tork Avro:	lol
[16:00]	Benjamin Linden:	thanks Jacek
[16:01]	Benjamin Linden:	and Ciaran
[16:01]	Jason Swain:	Yes, Great job Benjamin, Thanks for the office hour ^^
[16:01]	Tork Avro:	nia while crocodile
[16:01]	Squirrel Wood:	See you next time ^^
[16:01]	Digi Tal:	Cheers!
[16:01]	Benjamin Linden:	thanks for coming. take care everybody!