User:Benjamin Linden/Office Hours/2007 Oct 25
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Transcript of Benjamin Linden's office hours:
| [15:04] | Jacek Antonelli: | Heyo, Ben! |
| [15:05] | Digi Tal: | yay! |
| [15:05] | Benjamin Linden: | oops sorry Jason |
| [15:05] | Benjamin Linden: | hi folks! |
| [15:05] | Squirrel Wood: | Hello Benjamin ^^ |
| [15:05] | Jason Swain: | Np Ben |
| [15:05] | Disconnected from in-world Voice Chat | |
| [15:05] | Squirrel Wood: | https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2876 ^^ |
| [15:05] | Benjamin Linden: | I have a meeting that ran over |
| [15:05] | Benjamin Linden: | nice hat Jacek :-) |
| [15:05] | Kooky Jetaime: | heh |
| [15:06] | Benjamin Linden: | so did anyone happen to see that I posted the preview files for the new UI skin to the wiki a few days ago? |
| [15:06] | Digi Tal: | yes, using now |
| [15:06] | Squirrel Wood: | what was the url again? |
| [15:06] | Kooky Jetaime: | ooh |
| [15:06] | Jacek Antonelli: | hehe, thanks |
| [15:06] | Benjamin Linden: | oh great! |
| [15:06] | Kooky Jetaime: | thats an interesting bug |
| [15:06] | Benjamin Linden: | https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Viewer_Visual_Update |
| [15:06] | Benjamin Linden: | what do you think Digi? |
| [15:06] | Digi Tal: | you have too much hard coded rgb in the xui files, remove the hardcoding and the colours all work right |
| [15:07] | Benjamin Linden: | which ones, Digi? |
| [15:07] | Digi Tal: | looks good |
| [15:07] | Benjamin Linden: | which colors, rather |
| [15:07] | Coco Linden gave you Ah_Fuck. | |
| [15:08] | Digi Tal: | basically a lot of ="1 1 1 1" and such that when removed or changed to ="TheNamedColorFromXML" allows colors_base.xml to properly specify what we should see |
| [15:08] | Digi Tal: | know what I mean? |
| [15:08] | Benjamin Linden: | can you point me to a specific place in the UI where it's an issue? |
| [15:08] | Benjamin Linden: | like is it the menus? |
| [15:09] | Digi Tal: | I will make up a notecard for you as I can illustrate it better |
| [15:09] | Benjamin Linden: | ok |
| [15:09] | Jason Swain will just relog, brb | |
| [15:09] | Benjamin Linden: | so everyone else knows, you can download that zip file from the wiki and install the updated textures and color settings into your existing SL install |
| [15:09] | Benjamin Linden: | and see the new look |
| [15:10] | Digi Tal: | yes, try it, very easy to do and easy on the eyes! |
| [15:10] | Sabina Stenvaag: | sorry--was late--what zip file may i ask? |
| [15:10] | Benjamin Linden: | oh good I'm glad you like it Digi. it's still an early version with lots of rough edges but I think it's a good start |
| [15:11] | Jacek Antonelli: | Woo, crashes. Fun times. |
| [15:11] | Benjamin Linden: | Sabina, we're talking about a zip file that you can download from the wiki that will let you preview the new look and feel for the viewer |
| [15:11] | Benjamin Linden: | https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Viewer_Visual_Update |
| [15:11] | Benjamin Linden: | that has more info |
| [15:11] | Sabina Stenvaag: | ah Thansk! |
| [15:11] | Benjamin Linden: | Jacek, did the preview files crash your viewer? |
| [15:12] | Jacek Antonelli: | Nope, not using the preview files at the moment. Although I am running my custom-compiled viewer, which is not as stable as the official one |
| [15:12] | Benjamin Linden: | ah ok |
| [15:14] | Sabina Stenvaag: | downlading the zip file now goody! |
| [15:14] | Benjamin Linden: | so hopefully the rest of you will have a chance to check it out and give me feedback |
| [15:14] | Benjamin Linden: | or leave it in the wiki |
| [15:14] | Sabina Stenvaag: | screen shot is pretty! hee hee |
| [15:14] | Sabina Stenvaag: | gotta say about that ESC CSI client--i loved the tp history feature |
| [15:15] | Jacek Antonelli: | What all is in the zip file? XUI and image files, I'm guessing? |
| [15:15] | Benjamin Linden: | that's correct |
| [15:15] | Benjamin Linden: | yeah the ESC back button is very nice |
| [15:15] | Squirrel Wood: | Giovanna, your voice is active |
| [15:15] | Benjamin Linden: | what do folks think of the new sheep viewer? |
| [15:16] | Sabina Stenvaag: | the top bar wiht the 'buy button' is too big |
| [15:16] | Sabina Stenvaag: | takes up too much space |
| [15:16] | Sabina Stenvaag: | but pretty colors--like the one i jsut saw a screen shot of! |
| [15:16] | Benjamin Linden: | :-) |
| [15:16] | Benjamin Linden: | it's tough convincing developers that visual design matters :-) |
| [15:17] | Sabina Stenvaag: | i thihnk i still like this viewer--likley cause I'm jsut used to it 9the regular LL one) |
| [15:17] | Sabina Stenvaag: | inventory makes more sense to me than 'my stuff' |
| [15:18] | Benjamin Linden: | I sort of liked the "My Stuff" label -- I suspect it might make more sense to non-gamers |
| [15:18] | Benjamin Linden: | but I could be wrong about that |
| [15:18] | Benjamin Linden: | there aren't plans to change ours though :-) |
| [15:18] | Sabina Stenvaag: | ah good point--but I consider MYSLEF a non gamer--though I'm not tech illeterate either |
| [15:18] | Sabina Stenvaag: | can't type or spell though! |
| [15:19] | Benjamin Linden: | lol ok, point taken Sabina |
| [15:19] | Squirrel Wood: | if you have "My Stuff" you need something like "My crappy Stuff" and "Junk" and stuff ^^ |
| [15:19] | Benjamin Linden: | UI text is hard to do well |
| [15:19] | Jacek Antonelli: | And "Other People's Stuff"? ;D |
| [15:19] | Benjamin Linden: | we've just been working on some changes to the About Land Access tab |
| [15:20] | Benjamin Linden: | and it's tricky coming up with the right phrasing for some of these things |
| [15:20] | Squirrel Wood: | Hmm |
| [15:20] | Squirrel Wood: | Would it be possible to add the current / max prim count for the parcel on top of the screen ? |
| [15:20] | Sabina Stenvaag: | oh that might be helpful! |
| [15:20] | Squirrel Wood: | where you have the sim name, parcel name and coordinates |
| [15:21] | Jacek Antonelli: | Ok, one last relog and I should be on fancy new UI! |
| [15:21] | Benjamin Linden: | excellent :-) |
| [15:21] | Sabina Stenvaag: | btw--i still dont fully understand the 'claimed" date on the about land tab |
| [15:21] | Squirrel Wood: | let me jira that real quick ^^ |
| [15:21] | Jacek Antonelli: | Ahhh, shiny. |
| [15:21] | Jacek Antonelli licks her screen. | |
| [15:21] | Benjamin Linden: | where is the claimed date Sabina |
| [15:21] | Jason Swain: | is the new UI 100% only 1.18.3(5) or might 1.18.4(0) work? |
| [15:21] | Sabina Stenvaag: | on the about land tab |
| [15:22] | Benjamin Linden: | that's an interesting suggestion Squirrel, but do you think it might make things even more cluttered? |
| [15:22] | Benjamin Linden: | do you like the shiny, Jacek? |
| [15:22] | Sabina Stenvaag: | general sorry |
| [15:22] | Sabina Stenvaag: | General in about land |
| [15:22] | Jacek Antonelli: | I'm running on 1.18.4 right now, the UI preview seems to be working fine |
| [15:22] | Benjamin Linden: | maybe that's the date you took ownership? |
| [15:22] | Sabina Stenvaag: | really Jacek--i was putting the files in the non-rc viewer! |
| [15:22] | Jason Swain: | Thanks Jacek |
| [15:23] | Jacek Antonelli: | The shiny is a little bit excessive, I think. Distracting. |
| [15:23] | Benjamin Linden: | yes, we plan to tone down the chrome on the buttons |
| [15:23] | Benjamin Linden: | it makes the text hard to read |
| [15:23] | Benjamin Linden: | what about the general colors? |
| [15:23] | Sabina Stenvaag: | Benjamin--it seems to be odd--and inconsistant--WAIT--i'll bet it changes when the land is deeded to a group now that i think about it |
| [15:24] | Benjamin Linden: | that's probably right, Sabina |
| [15:24] | Squirrel Wood: | https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2877 |
| [15:24] | Sabina Stenvaag: | yep--thats prolly it! sorry! |
| [15:24] | Jacek Antonelli: | One thing I did like in the old viewer that this new update does not have -- is some strong visual difference between things that are buttons, and the background behind them |
| [15:25] | Kooky Jetaime: | Naaa |
| [15:25] | Kooky Jetaime: | we don't need more stuff there |
| [15:25] | Jacek Antonelli: | In the old one, it's blue buttons on gray background. But here, it's chrome on chrome |
| [15:25] | Kooky Jetaime: | Sorry squirrel |
| [15:25] | Jacek Antonelli: | I really like how the buttons light up when you hover the mouse over them, though :D |
| [15:26] | Benjamin Linden: | yes, we'll be working on creating more contrast between the buttons and the background too |
| [15:26] | Benjamin Linden: | good feedback Jacek |
| [15:27] | Jason Swain: | ok, Quick UI question on the new lag meter, if you click the narrow button (>>) then move the lag meter to the left of the screen, then click the widen button (<<) most of it is off screen, Shall I make a jira on this? |
| [15:28] | Tork Avro: | whatcha u guys doin?:) |
| [15:28] | Benjamin Linden: | is the new lag meter in RC Jason? |
| [15:28] | Kooky Jetaime: | new lag meter? |
| [15:28] | Jason Swain: | yes Ben |
| [15:28] | Benjamin Linden: | hi Tork, this is a user experience meeting, you're welcome to join us |
| [15:28] | Benjamin Linden: | hi Ciaran |
| [15:28] | Tork Avro: | kool ill listen in been playing or about 3 hours total |
| [15:28] | Benjamin Linden: | the RC client crashes my computer :-( |
| [15:28] | Tork Avro: | might be helpful |
| [15:28] | Ciaran Laval: | Hi Benjamin |
| [15:28] | Benjamin Linden: | so I haven't been able to use it |
| [15:29] | Kooky Jetaime: | Ben, thats... not a good thing |
| [15:29] | Jason Swain: | Does that sound like an issue I should jira? |
| [15:29] | Kooky Jetaime: | sure it does |
| [15:30] | Jason Swain: | Cool, just making it then ^^ |
| [15:30] | Jacek Antonelli: | The new map icons are quite pleasing to the eye. A+ on the Infohub, Telehub, and Home symbols. I can't tell what the "Classifieds" button is supposed to resemble. Using "L$" for "Land for sale" might be a bit confusing, since a similar graphic is used for "Buy L$ online". |
| [15:31] | Kooky Jetaime: | heh, I need to try the new RC |
| [15:31] | Jacek Antonelli ponders what would be better than L$. Maybe a "For Sale" sign, like they put in front of houses? | |
| [15:31] | Kooky Jetaime: | I'm still on the old RC |
| [15:31] | Jacek Antonelli: | Might be hard to convey in 32x32 pixels, alas. |
| [15:31] | Kooky Jetaime: | how bout a little "For Sale" sign like the orange and black ones? |
| [15:31] | Benjamin Linden: | yes, Jacek, we went round and round on those icons |
| [15:32] | Benjamin Linden: | I'm glad you like the general style |
| [15:32] | Benjamin Linden: | but I agree there are some legibility/comprehension issues |
| [15:32] | Jacek Antonelli nods | |
| [15:32] | Benjamin Linden: | and actually these icons are 16x |
| [15:32] | Benjamin Linden: | so very small |
| [15:32] | Jacek Antonelli: | Oh dear |
| [15:32] | Kooky Jetaime: | uhm price tag? |
| [15:32] | Jacek Antonelli: | Yes, that is tough to work with |
| [15:32] | Benjamin Linden: | and we can't use english text on icons, for international purposes |
| [15:32] | Jacek Antonelli: | Right |
| [15:33] | Benjamin Linden: | we couldn't fit a price tag into the little jewel, Kooky :-) |
| [15:33] | Kooky Jetaime: | heh |
| [15:33] | Kooky Jetaime: | ok |
| [15:33] | Sabina Stenvaag: | brb--reloggin with new stuff |
| [15:33] | Jacek Antonelli: | Do you know what the image on the Classifieds button is? I'm really curious now |
| [15:34] | Tork Avro: | lol this is all greek to me :P |
| [15:34] | Ciaran Laval: | all geek Tork, all geek |
| [15:34] | Jacek Antonelli: | hehehe |
| [15:34] | Kooky Jetaime: | hahah |
| [15:34] | Tork Avro: | lol |
| [15:34] | Kooky Jetaime: | why you hiding way over there Ciaran? |
| [15:35] | Ciaran Laval: | There were no chairs I could use over there kooky |
| [15:35] | Benjamin Linden: | it's supposed to be a classifieds section of the newspaper |
| [15:35] | Benjamin Linden: | with an ad circled |
| [15:35] | Benjamin Linden: | :-) |
| [15:35] | Jacek Antonelli: | Ahh |
| [15:35] | Ciaran Laval: | Ahh I like that Ben |
| [15:35] | Tork Avro: | not many normal users seem to be at this landmark |
| [15:35] | Kooky Jetaime: | hmm |
| [15:35] | Benjamin Linden: | what's "normal" Tork? |
| [15:36] | Tork Avro: | he kooky doesnt jetaime mean i love u? |
| [15:36] | Jacek Antonelli: | We're all weirdos, I guess? :D |
| [15:36] | Tork Avro: | like u guys all of an impact on the game im just a citizen u guys the council |
| [15:37] | Sabina Stenvaag: | oh shiny yes! |
| [15:37] | Jason Swain: | Sorry Quick question, is that a bug or a new feature? (the question I asked earlier about the lag meter) |
| [15:37] | Squirrel Wood: | We're normal citizens too - just trying to help Linden Labs to make the client better ^^ |
| [15:37] | Benjamin Linden: | Tork, everyone here is a Resident, just like you |
| [15:37] | Kooky Jetaime: | bug |
| [15:37] | Benjamin Linden: | everyone's welcome to join these meetings. I'm here to get your feedback about the User Interface |
| [15:37] | Kooky Jetaime: | new features are things not in the client that you'd like to see. bugs are everything else |
| [15:38] | Benjamin Linden: | Jason, I'd say it sounds like a bug |
| [15:38] | Jason Swain: | cool ok, bug it is, thanks ^^ |
| [15:38] | Kooky Jetaime: | Benjamin - you should add "Improvement" option to VWR |
| [15:38] | Digi Tal gave you Viewer Visual Update Notes from Digi Tal. | |
| [15:38] | Kooky Jetaime: | it exists in other areas |
| [15:38] | Tork Avro: | KOOL whats that! |
| [15:38] | Squirrel Wood: | wear the flight feather to get a better flight experience ^^ |
| [15:38] | Kooky Jetaime: | because there are a lot of things that arn't bugs or new features but improvments |
| [15:38] | Squirrel Wood: | also it lets you fly above the cloud layer |
| [15:39] | Kooky Jetaime: | but since we're shoehorned into one or the other.... |
| [15:39] | Jason Swain: | thats a great idea Kooky |
| [15:39] | Tork Avro: | THANKS SO MUCH |
| [15:39] | Tork Avro: | brb |
| [15:39] | Kooky Jetaime face palms.. now I need to make a jira issue for that jira issue.... | |
| [15:39] | Sabina Stenvaag: | want commetns on the new look? |
| [15:39] | Jason Swain: | http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2878 |
| [15:39] | Jacek Antonelli: | Looking at inventory icons now. Love the icons for Script, Notecard, Calling Card, Texture, Sound, Trash, and the clothes (especially the underwear one. hehe! :D). The icons for Object / Composite Object aren't bad, but a bit too bright. |
| [15:40] | Jason Swain: | Now to try that new shinny (no pun) UI ^^ |
| [15:40] | Sabina Stenvaag: | I liked the MORE transparent pie menus |
| [15:40] | Jacek Antonelli: | Ah, agreed there Sabina |
| [15:40] | Tork Avro: | squirell if u dont hvae dice i got some and a parrot |
| [15:40] | Benjamin Linden: | yes please Sabina |
| [15:40] | Sabina Stenvaag: | also I did like the search box at the top of the ESC CSI viewer, maybe |
| [15:41] | Squirrel Wood: | I've got waaaay too much stuff ^^ |
| [15:41] | Tork Avro: | bummer |
| [15:41] | Sabina Stenvaag: | still lookin at it! but the colors are WAY better i think |
| [15:41] | Tork Avro: | wow |
| [15:41] | Benjamin Linden: | we're adding a search box to the viewer soon |
| [15:41] | Tork Avro: | i heard a gun shot |
| [15:41] | Tork Avro: | was that form the game |
| [15:41] | Sabina Stenvaag: | goody! |
| [15:41] | Jacek Antonelli: | Yes, Tork |
| [15:41] | Tork Avro: | WHEW |
| [15:41] | Benjamin Linden: | glad you like it overall Sabina |
| [15:42] | Sabina Stenvaag: | ok--my linden dollar balnce seems TOO light against the grey backgorund |
| [15:42] | Tork Avro: | anyways gott go eat rice a roni |
| [15:42] | Jacek Antonelli: | hehehe |
| [15:42] | Kooky Jetaime: | w |
| [15:42] | Kooky Jetaime: | wth? |
| [15:42] | Benjamin Linden: | lol |
| [15:42] | Sabina Stenvaag: | not sure if this was in the other viewers, but could the drop down menuse go a lil more transparent too? |
| [15:43] | Benjamin Linden: | yes Sabina, there are definitely some specific colors we need to work on |
| [15:43] | Benjamin Linden: | we might do some more transparency but we have to be careful with legibility |
| [15:43] | Jacek Antonelli: | I'm less thrilled about the Gesture and Animation icons. The blue blends in a bit too well with the blue-silver background. Hmm. |
| [15:43] | Digi Tal: | you can tinker with the colors_base.xml file yourselves to test too |
| [15:43] | Jacek Antonelli: | Heee! Just saw the icon for hairs. Oh, my, that is funny. :) |
| [15:44] | Roof Doors: | Kooky Jetaime is at the door. |
| [15:45] | Sabina Stenvaag: | im sure this has come up before--but for organizing inventory--theres gotta be some imporvements to it--not sure if thats a UI issue though. |
| [15:45] | Jason Swain: | brb, going to have a go with the new UI ^^ |
| [15:45] | Jacek Antonelli: | I think this has been said elsewhere (on the wiki, perhaps), but the toxic green on the snapshot icon is rather intense. 8) |
| [15:45] | Jacek Antonelli: | hehe, hurry back Jason :D |
| [15:45] | Jason Swain: | ty |
| [15:45] | Kooky Jetaime: | Hmm I need to see if anyone jiraed a dedicated "Receiving" area |
| [15:45] | Kooky Jetaime: | brb |
| [15:46] | Jacek Antonelli: | Yeah, that would be nice, Kooky. An inbox, like. |
| [15:46] | Benjamin Linden: | I would *love* it if you guys played with the colors and came up with some suggestions |
| [15:46] | Benjamin Linden: | Sabina, inventory is *defintely* a UI issue |
| [15:46] | Digi Tal: | You have mine already :D |
| [15:46] | Benjamin Linden: | and we know we need to do something about it |
| [15:46] | Squirrel Wood: | hmm... suggestion... add an input field to the color picker for hex values ? |
| [15:46] | Jacek Antonelli: | Oooh, good one Squirrel |
| [15:46] | Benjamin Linden: | yes, thanks Digi |
| [15:46] | Sabina Stenvaag: | i would LOVBEto be able to change the name of several inventory objects at ONE time |
| [15:47] | Digi Tal: | Benjamin, does this update bring us closer to custom skinning or is that still off in the distance? |
| [15:47] | Benjamin Linden: | no, unfortunately there will be very little change to the underlying skinning architecture |
| [15:47] | Jason Swain: | Umm, its night time? |
| [15:48] | Jacek Antonelli: | Sabina: Could you got into that more, what you mean? |
| [15:48] | Benjamin Linden: | but this project helps us drive requirements into that larger effort |
| [15:48] | Benjamin Linden: | and also demonstrates what is possible today |
| [15:48] | Digi Tal: | cool, i did learn i can replace lots of files in my viewer so thank you |
| [15:48] | Sabina Stenvaag: | i've got a folder of items i only wear at soem sim--I want ALL items in that folder to be remamed at ONCE clothes, objects notecrds, |
| [15:49] | Sabina Stenvaag: | did that make sanse benjamine? |
| [15:49] | Jacek Antonelli: | Sabina: So, for example, you would want to be able to put "My Sim Name" at the front of the names of all those items? |
| [15:49] | Jason Swain: | It might just be my PC, but the text in the chat window is /really/ hard to read (UI = 0.75), mainly way too bright background |
| [15:49] | Jacek Antonelli: | Or some other text (that's just an example) |
| [15:49] | Sabina Stenvaag: | yes--or todays date |
| [15:50] | Jacek Antonelli: | That's a good idea |
| [15:50] | Sabina Stenvaag: | withOUT haveing to create another folder |
| [15:50] | Benjamin Linden: | yes Sabina, it does |
| [15:50] | Benjamin Linden: | yes, Jason, I agree |
| [15:50] | Jacek Antonelli: | Hello again, Tork! |
| [15:50] | Tork Avro: | HI:) |
| [15:50] | Benjamin Linden: | how was your rice a roni? |
| [15:50] | Tork Avro: | looked o history glad u guys got a god idea |
| [15:50] | Tork Avro: | HOT |
| [15:51] | Jacek Antonelli: | hehehe |
| [15:51] | Sabina Stenvaag: | also--duplicates get on my nerves--but i want SOME dupes--can we find duplicates in our inventoyr more easily? |
| [15:51] | Jason Swain: | I like the buttons though, I really hope that the leagablity will be fixed though |
| [15:51] | Tork Avro: | can i ask a question |
| [15:51] | Tork Avro: | may i * |
| [15:52] | Benjamin Linden: | we're working on revised buttons as we speak, jason |
| [15:52] | Jacek Antonelli: | That's another good idea, Sabina :D Maybe right click on something, and choose "Find Duplicates" -- would put a filter on the inventory, show all the objects with the same asset UUID? |
| [15:52] | Kooky Jetaime: | Ben - I'd love to be able to drag folders in inventory |
| [15:52] | Jason Swain: | on a posistive note, it looks very futuristic |
| [15:52] | Kooky Jetaime: | wait a sec |
| [15:52] | Kooky Jetaime: | theres something wrong with what I just said |
| [15:52] | Kooky Jetaime: | give me a min |
| [15:52] | Benjamin Linden: | what did you just say, Kooky? |
| [15:53] | Kooky Jetaime: | Copy folders |
| [15:53] | Kooky Jetaime: | it would be nice to copy folders in inventory |
| [15:53] | Jacek Antonelli: | Ah! Yes |
| [15:53] | Squirrel Wood: | Tork, if you have a question, just ask it ^^ |
| [15:53] | Jacek Antonelli: | That would be nice too |
| [15:53] | Jason Swain: | I would say the chat text, would be unusable for myself, I cant stand lots of bright text |
| [15:53] | Jason Swain: | But the feel is really clean and tidy |
| [15:53] | Tork Avro: | i had just gotten go kart object then i dragged it to the ground and now its not on my list i guess i did something wrong |
| [15:54] | Jason Swain: | Menus are really nice too |
| [15:54] | Ciaran Laval: | Sounds like it was a no copy item Tork |
| [15:54] | Tork Avro: | HMMMM i see..whats a copy item sry rele new! |
| [15:54] | Jacek Antonelli: | Yes, the new UI definitely feels very clean and fresh |
| [15:54] | Popgun (drag onto yourself) whispers: Use Mouselook (press 'M') to shoot me. | |
| [15:54] | Popgun (drag onto yourself) whispers: Choose 'Detach' from my menu to take me off. | |
| [15:55] | Popgun (drag onto yourself) whispers: Use Mouselook (press 'M') to shoot me. | |
| [15:55] | Popgun (drag onto yourself) whispers: Choose 'Detach' from my menu to take me off. | |
| [15:55] | Sabina Stenvaag: | yes--i like it lots too |
| [15:55] | Kooky Jetaime: | tork that won't work here |
| [15:55] | Benjamin Linden: | glad you guys like it overall |
| [15:55] | Benjamin Linden: | we're working through the specific color problems |
| [15:55] | Digi Tal: | I have faith |
| [15:55] | Benjamin Linden: | I hope to have another preview package in a week or so |
| [15:55] | Squirrel Wood: | Things in Second Life sometimes have permissions set that may prevent you from doing certain things with them like, modify them or make copies of them. |
| [15:55] | Jacek Antonelli: | Cool, sounds great Ben |
| [15:56] | Sabina Stenvaag: | i like having as much of a view of SL world as possible--the more configurable i can get the consoles and lil pop up windows the better |
| [15:56] | Digi Tal: | Looking forward to it Ben. |
| [15:56] | Jason Swain: | I hate to sound negative, because I think that LL does a really good job, but will there still be support for the old colour system on the text? |
| [15:56] | Kooky Jetaime: | Benjamin - how bout getting a little more "Safe" context menus |
| [15:57] | Kooky Jetaime: | ie: moving "Delete" to the bottom, after a seperator |
| [15:57] | Kooky Jetaime: | I Managed to delete a new asset yesterday |
| [15:57] | Digi Tal: | Good idea Kooky |
| [15:58] | Kooky Jetaime: | And what bout a "Non-safe" delete |
| [15:58] | Jacek Antonelli: | Benjamin, do you happen to know if it's possible to access global settings (e.g. ChatHistoryBgColor) from XUI? |
| [15:58] | Benjamin Linden: | Jason, do you mean will you be able to go back to the purple buttons and dark gray windows? |
| [15:58] | Jacek Antonelli: | (access == read, I mean) |
| [15:58] | Tork Avro: | i already got it :) |
| [15:59] | Benjamin Linden: | we are moving delete, Kooky, a dev just picked that up today |
| [15:59] | Kooky Jetaime: | goodie |
| [15:59] | Jason Swain: | Just the text colour sycem, the black background with white text |
| [15:59] | Jason Swain: | the buttons are nice |
| [15:59] | Benjamin Linden: | we are hoping to provide some additional customizability for those colors |
| [16:00] | Benjamin Linden: | so you will hopefully be able to control them yourself |
| [16:00] | Benjamin Linden: | folks I just realized I have to run to another meeting |
| [16:00] | Sabina Stenvaag: | this was great THanks! |
| [16:00] | Jacek Antonelli: | Woops! |
| [16:00] | Benjamin Linden: | thanks so much for your feedback on the new UI |
| [16:00] | Digi Tal: | Don't forget you can adjust some colors in your preferences for chat text etc |
| [16:00] | Squirrel Wood: | meeting frenzy ^^ |
| [16:00] | Sabina Stenvaag: | i like it! |
| [16:00] | Benjamin Linden: | please add your comments to the wiki page! |
| [16:00] | Jason Swain: | That would be great Benjamin, is there a jira to vote for that? |
| [16:00] | Sabina Stenvaag: | ah right ok! |
| [16:00] | Jacek Antonelli: | Bye, Ben! Good job to you and the rest of the team :D |
| [16:00] | Tork Avro: | it was awesome metting the famous linden man! |
| [16:00] | Benjamin Linden: | it's very helpful for us to read your feedback |
| [16:00] | Kooky Jetaime makes a list, cache idea w/complete prim list, | |
| [16:00] | Kooky Jetaime: | hehehehe |
| [16:00] | Benjamin Linden: | haha likewise Tork |
| [16:00] | Ciaran Laval: | Cheers Ben |
| [16:00] | Tork Avro: | lol |
| [16:00] | Benjamin Linden: | thanks Jacek |
| [16:01] | Benjamin Linden: | and Ciaran |
| [16:01] | Jason Swain: | Yes, Great job Benjamin, Thanks for the office hour ^^ |
| [16:01] | Tork Avro: | nia while crocodile |
| [16:01] | Squirrel Wood: | See you next time ^^ |
| [16:01] | Digi Tal: | Cheers! |
| [16:01] | Benjamin Linden: | thanks for coming. take care everybody! |