This meeting was held on April 29th, 2010

Agenda

Updates
- So the grid has some issues today...
  - Meeting here: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Pooley/219/67/76
- 1.40 info
  - Havok 7 is merged.
  - should be a few more goodies
- Getting private regions into ADITI for 1.40 testing.
Releases
- 1.38.4 1st week in May
  - contains havok 4 logging.

Resolved Items

Meeting Minutes

ADITI was inaccessible so we met at Oskar's home on Pooley.
We talked about 1.40.
We talked about how to get your region to ADITI for testing under 1.40.
Maestro talked about the plan for core qa to set up an external hosting site for testing.
We had like 60 people on the region pooley. :-)

Transcript

Transcript of Oskar Linden's Beta Server Office Hour for April 29th, 2010:

[14:57] SHAMUS Carter: hi oskar
[14:57] ANSI Soderstrom: hi oskar
[14:57] ANSI Soderstrom: can i have your bear ?
[14:57] Xugu Madison: hey Oskar, thanks for hosting
[14:57] Oskar Linden: ask later :-)
[14:57] Huns Valen: needs more bathtub
[14:57] Charlene Trudeau: oskar has a bear now?
[14:57] Xugu Madison: ANSI, don't you have your own bear yet? :)
[14:57] Charlene Trudeau: lol
[14:57] Oskar Linden: not a lot of chairs here
[14:57] SHAMUS Carter: oskar has a bear?
[14:57] Oskar Linden: but this is my comfy little home
[14:58] Psi Merlin: Hi Oskar
[14:58] Charlene Trudeau: very nice :)
[14:58] Oskar Linden: hi hi
[14:58] SHAMUS Carter: very nice
[14:58] Oskar Linden: this is one of the first things I made as a linden
[14:58] Gooden Uggla: nice pad
[14:58] Xugu Madison: Hey, Oskar has a sense of aesthetics. What sort of geek are ya!? :)
[14:58] Moundsa Mayo: Very comfy, while the water stays warm.
[14:58] Oskar Linden: I am a geek who minored in fine arts
[14:59] SHAMUS Carter: ahhhh
[14:59] ANSI Soderstrom: cool roof
[14:59] Gooden Uggla: bathtub fetish, awesome
[14:59] Oskar Linden: cleanliness is next to godmodeliness
[14:59] Xugu Madison: Feel free to rez any time you like, all of you...
[14:59] Gooden Uggla: and you can have friends over!
[15:01] Oskar Linden: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Beta_Server_Office_Hours#Agenda
[15:01] Oskar Linden: there is the agenda
[15:01] Xugu Madison: Oskar has an agenda! I knew it!
[15:01] Oskar Linden: yup yup
[15:01] Oskar Linden: so yeah, thanks for coming to my home/office
[15:01] SHAMUS Carter: Yus ! a secreat one
[15:01] Oskar Linden: I'm almost never here though
[15:01] Charlene Trudeau: Oskar always has an agenda :)
[15:02] Gooden Uggla: it's a cool place, glad to be here
[15:02] Oskar Linden: most of the art on the walls is hanging in my real office
[15:02] ANSI Soderstrom: iam always here on char footsie :) nicest place in the whole sl
[15:03] Gooden Uggla: we've discovered his secret... it's all about a fascination with blinking lights...
[15:03] Oskar Linden: here comes maestro
[15:03] Oskar Linden: I love the blinking ights
[15:03] Oskar Linden: lights
[15:03] Gooden Uggla: as do we all
[15:03] SHAMUS Carter: bl;inky lights are cool
[15:03] Oskar Linden: especially if they tell time
[15:03] Xugu Madison: Note to self. If you need to distract Oskar, use xmas tree lights
[15:03] Gooden Uggla: it's our version of "oohhh shiny!"
[15:03] Oskar Linden: my favorite is the one under the water below us
[15:03] SHAMUS Carter: •*•.. HahahaA •*•..
[15:04] Gooden Uggla: adherents can be found at any fry's store...
[15:04] Oskar Linden: so item 1 in the agenda
[15:04] Oskar Linden: grid issues
[15:04] Oskar Linden: swears it wasn't us this time
[15:05] Melfina Marshdevil: you broke it
[15:05] Melfina Marshdevil: I know you did
[15:05] Charlene Trudeau: lol
[15:05] SHAMUS Carter: hehe
[15:05] Oskar Linden: thinks some kid down in phoenix needed to recharge his PSP and pulled some data center plugs out
[15:05] ANSI Soderstrom: o.O
[15:05] Charlene Trudeau: roflmao, my back yard
[15:05] SHAMUS Carter: 0.o
[15:05] Oskar Linden: Charlene!!
[15:05] Charlene Trudeau: I'll have to beat my kids on pricipal
[15:05] Charlene Trudeau: ;P
[15:05] Huns Valen: it was me
[15:05] Oskar Linden: used to live in Phoenix
[15:06] Charlene Trudeau: born and bred here :)
[15:06] Charlene Trudeau: native desert rat
[15:06] Oskar Linden: not sure if I covered that in my "Who is Oskar" story last week
[15:06] Damen Hax: It happened when i tried to rez something.. co-incidence i'm sure
[15:06] Oskar Linden: might be getting down to Phoenix soon
[15:06] Oskar Linden: has tentative plans to buy this car: [1]
[15:06] Oskar Linden: you have to go to phoenix to build it though
[15:06] Oskar Linden: realizes this is WAY off topic
[15:06] Melfina Marshdevil: site bandwidth exceeded.
[15:06] Gooden Uggla: actually, i noticed last night that 4 major north american routers were out, including the high-volume one in vancouver
[15:06] Chalice Yao: snickers.
[15:06] Melfina Marshdevil: hahah
[15:07] Oskar Linden: but... that car just makes me swoon
[15:07] Damen Hax: wow
[15:07] Charlene Trudeau: oooh fun
[15:07] Melfina Marshdevil: wishes
[15:07] SHAMUS Carter: .
[15:07] Moundsa Mayo: "It's a dry heat"
[15:07] SHAMUS Carter: pore pooly
[15:07] Oskar Linden: so yeah the grid is having issues because of a major power outage in phoenix
[15:08] SHAMUS Carter: poweroutages are never fun
[15:08] Gooden Uggla: looks like a mustang front end
[15:08] Xugu Madison: Please tell me this has been a learning experience, and the next time someone unplugs a data centre it'll reboot faster? And/or the power cable is no longer shielded, and whoever trips over it will be sacrificed to make it worthwhile...
[15:08] Oskar Linden: so that made things a tad difficult
[15:08] Oskar Linden: is amazed that OPS kept the grid up though
[15:09] Oskar Linden: send them some love over that
[15:09] Oskar Linden: srsly!
[15:09] SHAMUS Carter: yah
[15:09] Xugu Madison: nods "Yes, do send our thanks to ops!"
[15:09] SHAMUS Carter: Thank You!!
[15:09] Jonathan Yap: Did they have to push regions onto other datacenters?
[15:10] Oskar Linden: not sure what they did exactly
[15:10] Oskar Linden: mostly rerouting traffic to backups and stuff
[15:10] Oskar Linden: they do their job and I do mine
[15:10] Oskar Linden: :-)
[15:10] Oskar Linden: I have no real news for 1.40
[15:10] Oskar Linden: we're branching it at the end of next week
[15:11] Oskar Linden: so, fingers crossed, it'll be on ADITI by Friday afternoon
[15:11] Oskar Linden: I'll send out a mail or notice or something
[15:11] Skills Hak: oh oskar's place :o
[15:11] Oskar Linden: probably the OH after that we can talk about the release notes
[15:11] Oskar Linden: hey skills
[15:11] Skills Hak: where's the fridge?
[15:11] Skills Hak: hiya!
[15:11] Oskar Linden: fridge is internal to the NW column
[15:11] Noor Loam: helloo
[15:11] Xugu Madison: So... 1.40 not going to be out for testing this weekend, right? Which is fine, just want to be clear
[15:12] Oskar Linden: it will NOT be on ADITI for this weekend
[15:12] Oskar Linden: we still have a few pieces in sandbox
[15:12] Oskar Linden: and getting more through merge every day
[15:12] Oskar Linden: Milo has been doing well wrangling those pieces
[15:13] Noor Loam: do i need voice
[15:13] Oskar Linden: no
[15:14] Oskar Linden: we're all in txt
[15:14] Oskar Linden: I just noticed that kelly and simon were sitting alone in morris on aditi
[15:14] Noor Loam: ok ok
[15:14] Oskar Linden: aww
[15:14] Ardy Lay: Oi
[15:14] Oskar Linden: I forgot to tell them it moved to here
[15:14] Latif Khalifa: seems that aditi works from linden land
[15:14] Rex Cronon: hi everybody
[15:15] Oskar Linden: looks like lindens can log in
[15:15] Chalice Yao: Hey Rex.
[15:15] Oskar Linden: but I don't see any restrictions
[15:15] Latif Khalifa: Oskar, port 80 on login server seem to be firewalled off
[15:15] ANSI Soderstrom: than make us all to a linden
[15:15] SHAMUS Carter: maby it;s beinng silly?
[15:15] ANSI Soderstrom: in aditi
[15:15] Oskar Linden: that might explain it
[15:15] Rex Cronon: hi:)
[15:16] Ardy Lay: Hmm... This is a busy region.
[15:16] Oskar Linden: it is
[15:16] Oskar Linden: busier now
[15:16] Oskar Linden: :-D
[15:16] Faust Vollmar: I miss anything good yet or just discussion about Aditi misbehaving?
[15:16] Ardy Lay: Hehe
[15:16] Maestro Linden: aditi may be fixed as of 1 minute ago
[15:16] Drew Dwi: I got on aditi
[15:16] Oskar Linden: the new resis on the stage might not know what is going on
[15:17] Oskar Linden: but then we'll just tell them it's lag
[15:17] Noor Loam: lol
[15:17] SHAMUS Carter: hehe
[15:17] Gooden Uggla: careful oskar, they'll accuse ya of gaming traffic!
[15:17] Oskar Linden: well we're all here now
[15:17] Ardy Lay: o•"Lag City "•o
[15:17] Oskar Linden: heh
[15:17] Jonathan Yap: This region will be full with 2 more avatars
[15:17] SHAMUS Carter: wow 57 av in sim
[15:17] Oskar Linden: yeah I just want to get people here to play my fishing game down on the water
[15:17] Techwolf Lupindo: Bring in your alts now. :-)
[15:17] Drew Dwi: the real question is, who tripped over the power coard
[15:17] SHAMUS Carter: did not think that was still posab;le
[15:17] Oskar Linden: no one who works for us
[15:18] ANSI Soderstrom: aditi is able to login now
[15:18] Noor Loam: forgot to feed the hamster...
[15:18] Rex Cronon: gee. so dark in here. is this a vampires only, because if it is u should know i just ate garlic:)
[15:18] Oskar Linden: well even so. we're meeting here
[15:19] SHAMUS Carter: wow the sim is plumiting
[15:19] Oskar Linden: so yeah, hopefully there will be some surprises in 1.40
[15:19] Oskar Linden: can't talk about them yet
[15:19] Oskar Linden: soon :-)
[15:19] Melfina Marshdevil: meany
[15:19] Moy Loon: ;)
[15:19] Oskar Linden: I know
[15:19] Faust Vollmar: Has to be somethign that will make people angry, if you're not allowed to talk about it. =p
[15:20] Faust Vollmar: (I'm kidding)
[15:20] Oskar Linden: so on the topic of "Getting private regions into ADITI for 1.40 testing."
[15:20] Latif Khalifa: aditi fixed for all wondering about it :)
[15:20] Rex Cronon: come on oskar, make this place a little lighter:)
[15:20] Oskar Linden: this palce is perfect
[15:20] Noor Loam: use a FACELIGHT its fine here
[15:20] Oskar Linden: the sun is setting
[15:20] Oskar Linden: look at the view
[15:20] Charlene Trudeau: ewww facelights lol
[15:20] Noor Loam: ya
[15:21] SHAMUS Carter: hehe face lights are err anoying
[15:21] Charlene Trudeau: so glad we can turn off seeing them G<>
[15:21] Damen Hax: What if you don't own a whole sim but a large chunk of one, possible to have loaded onto aditi?
[15:21] Latif Khalifa: puts on his facelight 3000
[15:21] Oskar Linden: there are too many to keep track of
[15:21] Oskar Linden: so, like I mentioned last week I want to wipe the slate clean of regions we use on ADITI
[15:21] WolfPup Lowenhar: i would switch to better setting but running < 10 FPS as it is
[15:21] Tor Gant: hehe
[15:21] Oskar Linden: I'll be making a list of regions to use for a specific beta release and it will be easier to track
[15:21] Oskar Linden: I'll try to do this in jira
[15:22] Oskar Linden: see how that works: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-5755
[15:22] Melfina Marshdevil: soo if you clean the regions that means you can claim land for free?
[15:22] Damen Hax: handy to test sim with many different parcel restrictions, group owned land, user owned land
[15:22] Oskar Linden: so if you have a mainland region you for sure want up on ADITI during 1.40 testing add it there as a comment
[15:22] Drew Dwi: can you move bug island over?
[15:22] Jonathan Yap: But you will keep a base set of regions like Morris, etc. Maybe there should be a list of those some place.
[15:22] Oskar Linden: the oatmeal sims will be up and I'll try to have them more open to customized testing
[15:22] Oskar Linden: add it drew
[15:22] Drew Dwi: ty
[15:23] Faust Vollmar: Morris, and atleast two of the sandboxes, one of them probably weapons testing.
[15:23] Melfina Marshdevil: commented
[15:23] Melfina Marshdevil: :3
[15:23] Oskar Linden: cool
[15:23] Rex Cronon: and rausch too:)
[15:23] Oskar Linden: add it rex
[15:23] Faust Vollmar: ah yes cant forgtet Rausch, my bad.
[15:23] Oskar Linden: I'm not taking the requests here
[15:24] Oskar Linden: please add it to the jira
[15:24] Rex Cronon: oh. ok
[15:24] Oskar Linden: I will keep a base set of regions like Morris
[15:24] Oskar Linden: aditi is fairly starved for resources
[15:24] Oskar Linden: I will explain more in a few weeks
[15:24] Oskar Linden: but we have some regions going to testing tcmalloc soon
[15:24] Oskar Linden: and some other projects
[15:25] Oskar Linden: so I need to make sure that the regions up on ADITI are being efficiently used
[15:25] SHAMUS Carter: ahhh
[15:25] Gooden Uggla: good idea
[15:25] SHAMUS Carter: be bar none the core sims should be on aditi
[15:26] Maestro Linden: [2] hm let's see, this list might be accurate
[15:26] Oskar Linden: the core sims will
[15:26] Maestro Linden: for mainland regions on aditi
[15:26] Gooden Uggla: so babbage, fresh off fixing mono is jumping into tc malloc with half of aditi?
[15:26] Oskar Linden: I might have to update that list maestro
[15:26] Oskar Linden: it's not been the most accurate for a while
[15:26] Gooden Uggla: ./end snark
[15:26] Damen Hax: oh.. i have some land in mocha.. must be blind never noticed it on aditi
[15:26] Maestro Linden: ok
[15:27] Jonathan Yap: This used to work but is failing to connect for me now: [3]
[15:27] Maestro Linden: yeah that host went down < Jonathon :(
[15:27] Melfina Marshdevil: Opensource Obscure added a comment - 29/Apr/10 03:26 PM
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Opensource Obscure added a comment - 29/Apr/10 03:26 PM LOL
[15:27] Melfina Marshdevil: ha
[15:27] Melfina Marshdevil: good comment
[15:27] Opensource Obscure: :D
[15:27] Oskar Linden: :-)
[15:27] Maestro Linden: we're planning to get a new hosting service for that and some of our other sim communication tests
[15:28] Oskar Linden: I knew OO would get LOL in there
[15:28] Oskar Linden: oh right :-)
[15:28] Oskar Linden: tell us about the plan maestro
[15:28] Maestro Linden: 1) sign up for a 3rd party hosting service that supports PHP and maybe some other scripting languages
[15:28] Maestro Linden: 2) done
[15:29] Oskar Linden: 3) beer
[15:29] Gooden Uggla: it's good to have a simple plan
[15:29] Oskar Linden: it is gooden
[15:29] Noor Loam: I like your pink fingernails Maestro
[15:29] Maestro Linden: thanks Noor
[15:29] Gooden Uggla: and beer
[15:29] Oskar Linden: core qa doesn't mess around
[15:30] Oskar Linden: then maybe that grid tool thing I tried making will work
[15:30] Oskar Linden: that free php hosting setup wasn't the best
[15:30] Oskar Linden: ideas on an awesome domain name?
[15:30] Melfina Marshdevil: what about google apps?
[15:30] Drew Dwi: why php maestro?
[15:30] Melfina Marshdevil: lol
[15:30] Faust Vollmar: Freehostia doesnt act up too much for me, if you want a free one. =p
[15:30] Maestro Linden: we already have some scripts written in PHP
[15:30] Drew Dwi: and yea, was just thinking google app engine
[15:30] Oskar Linden: it really doesn't matter what we use drew
[15:30] Maestro Linden: so it's convenient =P
[15:30] Faust Vollmar: It acts up, but not too much.
[15:31] Xugu Madison: Burn PHP. Burn it with fire
[15:31] Oskar Linden: php is simple enough to bash out what we need
[15:31] Oskar Linden: we're not getting into a codebase debate here
[15:31] Melfina Marshdevil: heh
[15:31] Maestro Linden: we'll probably pick a host that supports several popular languages, just to have options
[15:31] Rex Cronon: added:)
[15:31] Oskar Linden: google apps is too much overhead
[15:32] Oskar Linden: we're going with dreamhost
[15:32] Gooden Uggla: call it "whosyourbeta"
[15:32] Oskar Linden: simple, cheap, and lots of options
[15:32] Melfina Marshdevil: dreamhost? can I give you a referal code?
[15:32] Drew Dwi: lol
[15:32] Techwolf Lupindo: Hmm...I have a server that host php websites.
[15:32] Moundsa Mayo: Find a service in Dallas, or Australia, Tristan de Cunha, even, ANYWHERE but Phoenix ...
[15:32] Oskar Linden: ok melfina
[15:32] Oskar Linden: im it to maestro
[15:32] Techwolf Lupindo: And its not in phoenix. :-)
[15:32] Melfina Marshdevil: logging into my account now ill have it to you in a sec.
[15:32] Lares Carter: heya everyone, and i was waiting in Aditi - really silent there ;P
[15:32] Charlene Trudeau: lol
[15:33] Charlene Trudeau: sorry, Lares
[15:33] Oskar Linden: sorry lares. I messaged the group here
[15:33] Moundsa Mayo: Ya, now we can't talk about Lares anymore.
[15:33] Oskar Linden: and updated the agenda
[15:33] Oskar Linden: most had login issues
[15:33] Charlene Trudeau: my fault, I wasn't paying attention to IMs or I'd have had him here sooner
[15:33] Rex Cronon: AFK...............................
[15:33] Rex Cronon: afk
[15:33] Lares Carter: nah, no problem. ill just read the log later.
[15:33] Faust Vollmar: hasnt heard much about dreamhost so can't comment on that choice.
[15:34] Drew Dwi: they are good
[15:34] Drew Dwi: can't argue with choice :)
[15:34] Oskar Linden: I've used them in the past
[15:34] Dante Tucker: I use dreamhost. They are pretty reliable and support pretty much everything.
[15:34] Oskar Linden: and they're super simple and you can do a lot
[15:34] Oskar Linden: I was impressed
[15:34] Oskar Linden: we really don't need a lot of fanciness
[15:34] Oskar Linden: we just need pages hosted outside of ll domains
[15:35] Oskar Linden: so that's really all I have for this week
[15:35] Oskar Linden: things will pick up again next week for sure!
[15:35] Maestro Linden: oh I have 1 more thing to add
[15:35] Oskar Linden: ok
[15:35] Oskar Linden: anyone have anything to talk about?
[15:36] Faust Vollmar: Think you'll be able to tell us what the surprises are next week? =p
[15:36] Maestro Linden: I looked into svc-5411 No "accepted/declined inventory" notice under server 1.36.0
[15:36] Melfina Marshdevil: hint us
[15:36] Melfina Marshdevil: :D
[15:36] Maestro Linden: and yeah, it's a bug for sure.
[15:36] Skills Hak: oh great
[15:36] Maestro Linden: not expected behavior
[15:36] Latif Khalifa: \o/
[15:36] Latif Khalifa: finally some good news
[15:36] ANSI Soderstrom: RL is catching me, iam sorry, have to leave... tc all, cu next week
[15:36] SHAMUS Carter: bugs are fun
[15:36] Ovaltine Constantine: Okie dokie, what'd I miss?
[15:36] Latif Khalifa: (in a world where a bug is good news)
[15:37] Latif Khalifa: but much better than expected behaviour for sure :)
[15:37] Skills Hak: i noticed that one in february i think
[15:37] Skills Hak: pretty annoying
[15:37] Oskar Linden: in a world where people freak out that ll changes behaviour they expect a bug is good news
[15:37] Latif Khalifa: yeah
[15:37] Oskar Linden: on an entirely different topic I watched this movie last night: [4]
[15:37] Skills Hak: is there a flood filter for these packets?
[15:37] Oskar Linden: it rocked
[15:37] Latif Khalifa: bug are fixable, linden behaviour is not :P
[15:38] SaZaN Senizen: :D
[15:38] Tor Gant: i most go sorry about thet.
[15:38] Oskar Linden: if ur into the arts at all or like street art/graffiti it's worth watching
[15:39] Maestro Linden: which packets, Skills?
[15:39] Skills Hak: IM_TASK_INVENTORY_ACCEPTED
[15:39] Skills Hak: declined etc
[15:39] Latif Khalifa: ImprovedInstantMessage
[15:40] Dante Tucker: There was not a few weeks ago when I got spammed with them skills.
[15:40] Maestro Linden: ah. I think what happened is that an extra check was added to the simulator to see if the transaction was "real"
[15:40] SHAMUS Carter: well i have to run
[15:40] Skills Hak: ah easy fix then i hope
[15:40] SHAMUS Carter: ill ceck the log
[15:40] Maestro Linden: and not just an IM that didn't result from a transaction
[15:41] Faust Vollmar: Sounds like that check is failing for every transaction that isnt purely within the sim itself?
[15:41] Maestro Linden: but it looks like the check is overzealous, and blocks any accept/decline messages when the sender is in a different region than the recipient
[15:41] Maestro Linden: that's what I think, Faust
[15:42] Ovaltine Constantine: Im actually being spammed right now
[15:42] Ovaltine Constantine: By messages that say "Cannot complete attachment. An attachment is pending for that spot. "
[15:42] Damen Hax: stops working on buggy code & scrolls over meeting text
[15:42] Ovaltine Constantine: Coming every 10 minutes
[15:42] Ovaltine Constantine: 10 seconds*
[15:43] Maestro Linden: odd, does that happen every time you login?
[15:43] Ovaltine Constantine: No, just today
[15:43] Latif Khalifa: that's asset server not being able to fetch object to be attached
[15:44] SaZaN Senizen: That happens a lot in pooley tbh
[15:44] SaZaN Senizen: this sim is like cursed
[15:44] Oskar Linden: too many linden homes here
[15:45] Oskar Linden: char is like the original griefer
[15:45] SaZaN Senizen: :)
[15:45] Oskar Linden: oh snap... my other machine just finished downloading the StarCraft 2 Beta for me
[15:45] Damen Hax: lsl error i just had was due to server not seeing scripts in prims inventory, they are there
[15:45] Oskar Linden: is not getting any more work done today
[15:45] Noor Loam: LOL
[15:46] Oskar Linden: did I just say that out loud
[15:46] Faust Vollmar: Damn, I swear everyone but me got in to the beta.
[15:46] Noor Loam: mhm
[15:46] SaZaN Senizen: lol
[15:46] Vaalith Jinn: is now so very jealous :o
[15:47] Oskar Linden: I don't know about this...
[15:47] Oskar Linden: it's like I waited too long for SC2
[15:47] Oskar Linden: I was HUGE on the first one
[15:47] Oskar Linden: and excited for this one
[15:47] Sebastean Steamweaver: wonders if (a) Anything has been said about PRIM_NAME/PRIM_DESC for 1.40, and if we have 1.40 release notes :D
[15:47] Oskar Linden: but the time it will take to get as good as I was...
[15:47] Noor Loam: You gonna play SWtor too, Oskar>
[15:47] Oskar Linden: I think it's fixed seb
[15:47] Ovaltine Constantine: Yes let's talk about 1.40
[15:47] Oskar Linden: we just did
[15:47] Ovaltine Constantine: Or was it already talked about
[15:47] Oskar Linden: for like 20 minutes
[15:48] Xugu Madison: 1.42 ? :)
[15:48] Oskar Linden: I'll send out the notes
[15:48] Ovaltine Constantine: While I was on Aditi for 20 minutes?
[15:48] Oskar Linden: aww
[15:48] Oskar Linden: group hug on ovaltine!
[15:48] Oskar Linden: grouphugs ovaltine
[15:48] Faust Vollmar: wouldnt mind a full llGetLinkDesc so he doesnt need the list overhead but that might be asking too much.
[15:48] Faust Vollmar: XD
[15:48] Ovaltine Constantine: Aww you dont have to hug me
[15:48] Ovaltine Constantine: Just repeat everything that was said
[15:48] Oskar Linden: everything that was said
[15:48] Oskar Linden: everything that was said
[15:48] Oskar Linden: everything that was said
[15:48] Oskar Linden: everything that was said
[15:48] Oskar Linden: everything that was said
[15:49] Oskar Linden: everything that was said
[15:49] Faust Vollmar: *rimshot*
[15:49] Oskar Linden: everything that was said
[15:49] Sebastean Steamweaver: hits the stop button.
[15:49] Ovaltine Constantine: Teehee
[15:49] Charlene Trudeau: roflmao
[15:49] Ovaltine Constantine: Now whats in 1.40
[15:49] Damen Hax: reminds me.. i could build a filter for repeat spam on yahoo client.. why cant we do that here
[15:49] Sebastean Steamweaver: I take it PRIM_NAME/DESC won't be?
[15:49] Skills Hak: Mono 2.6.1 ?
[15:49] Latif Khalifa: why do you think they won't?
[15:50] Damen Hax: auto add to ban list.. wo0hoo
[15:50] Oskar Linden: seb, there was a related bug fix that might be getting in
[15:50] Oskar Linden: not 100% sure it's what you wanted
[15:50] Maestro Linden: Mono 2.6.1 < nah not in 1.40. It'll be further down the road
[15:51] Damen Hax: sure sometimes you need to fish someone out.. but worth it in the long run `0' ciao
[15:51] Sebastean Steamweaver: Well, I think it was a feature rather than a bug fix. People wanted constants for the prim's name and description to use with llSetLinkPP.
[15:51] Latif Khalifa: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-5171
[15:51] Latif Khalifa: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-5170
[15:52] Oskar Linden: looks like it might be in seb
[15:52] Latif Khalifa: Kelly said those were done and waiting to be merged
[15:52] Oskar Linden: we'll know next week k?
[15:52] Sebastean Steamweaver: Sounds good
[15:52] Gooden Uggla: maestro when does the debian upgrade start that allows the mono upgrade?
[15:53] Oskar Linden: not for a couple months methinks
[15:53] Gooden Uggla: kk
[15:53] Maestro Linden: yeah, what oskar said
[15:53] Faust Vollmar: Now if only we could get something else the framework is already set for... llGetInventoryHash. D=
[15:53] Faust Vollmar: ducks from thrown foodstuffs.
[15:54] Gooden Uggla: smokes the hash and ignores the foodfight
[15:54] Latif Khalifa: is still preplexed about "need to update distro to install newer mono" thing
[15:54] Oskar Linden: well 6 minutes left, anything else?
[15:54] Ovaltine Constantine: Yes
[15:54] Xugu Madison: Thinking of mono upgrades, performance increases, and too many scripts; as promised, free resizer HUD: https://www.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=2275909 (based on Maestro Linden's sample script, if I remember correctly)
[15:54] Ovaltine Constantine: Whats in 1.40
[15:54] Oskar Linden: debian needs updates
[15:54] Rex Cronon: it seems i got back just in time to see the ending. aaaahhh
[15:54] Gooden Uggla: next question, did you have anything specific for us to test on the (now open) beta grid?
[15:55] Oskar Linden: not right this week
[15:55] Oskar Linden: come next week, yes. I will
[15:55] Maestro Linden: Hm there's nothing special in the new version. It shouldln't blow up, is all. ;)
[15:55] Oskar Linden: May should be an exciting month for beta testing
[15:55] Oskar Linden: make sure you stick around
[15:56] Drew Dwi: don't change that channel?
[15:56] Faust Vollmar: Maestro: Even if I blow stuff up in it? =D
[15:56] Oskar Linden: quietly closes the roof and locks you all into his office
[15:56] Gooden Uggla: also based on maestro's script - without a HUD - https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linkset_resizer_with_menu
[15:56] Maestro Linden: heh ok, that's the 1 exception =P
[15:56] Maestro Linden: ^ oh yeah, that should have a nicer UI
[15:56] Faust Vollmar: Is that one size clamped or does it just keep going?
[15:57] Melfina Marshdevil: :O oskar disabled outgoing tps
[15:57] Chalice Yao: !
[15:57] Oskar Linden: :-o
[15:57] Noor Loam: haha
[15:57] Faust Vollmar: Hahah.
[15:57] Xugu Madison: Nooooooo...
[15:57] Rex Cronon: i have a question. there might be some people in AWGroupies that would be interested in havig sims brought to beta for testing, is ok if https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-5755 is being mentioned there?
[15:57] Chalice Yao: Ciao Oskar! :>
[15:57] Oskar Linden: I will send out a message to a larger group
[15:58] Oskar Linden: anyone from AWG who is interested in beta testing should be in the Second Life Beta group
[15:58] Oskar Linden: if they're not... make em sign up
[15:58] Vaalith Jinn: *waves*
[15:58] Rex Cronon: u haven't advertised too much, so they might not know:)
[15:59] Oskar Linden: I have advertised plenty
[15:59] Xugu Madison: Seeya Oskar!
[15:59] Rex Cronon: ok
[15:59] Maestro Linden: alright guys, time for me to go too
[15:59] Xugu Madison: Seeya Maestro, have fun both of ya!
[15:59] Noor Loam: ok ILY all
[15:59] Rex Cronon: tc maestro
[15:59] Latif Khalifa: take care Mastro
[15:59] Xugu Madison: Don't do anything I would
[15:59] Maestro Linden: hah
[15:59] Maestro Linden: you too
[16:00] Moundsa Mayo: Thanks, Oskar, Maestro!
[16:00] Faust Vollmar: Remember: Stuff blowing up spectacularly is *FUN*
[16:00] Latif Khalifa: thanks for your time Oskar
[16:00] Sebastean Steamweaver: Thanks for the office hours
[16:00] Sebastean Steamweaver: Take care all - sorry I've been afk a lot
[16:00] Faust Vollmar: Heh. Hoping to hear about those surprises sooner rather than later. =p
[16:00] Rex Cronon: nice of u to make that announcement:)
[16:00] Opensource Obscure: bye everybody !
[16:01] Rex Cronon: tc os
[16:01] Rex Cronon: tc everybody
[16:01] Gooden Uggla: he said surprises next week
[16:01] Rex Cronon: have fun:)
[16:01] Oskar Linden: ok
[16:01] Oskar Linden: meeting adjourned
[16:01] Faust Vollmar: Oh yay, I musta missed it.
[16:01] Oskar Linden: thanks for coming everyone
[16:01] Melfina Marshdevil: np oskar
[16:01] Melfina Marshdevil: nice place you got
[16:01] Melfina Marshdevil: Lms it.
[16:02] Faust Vollmar: Tc Oskar
[16:02] Oskar Linden: promises to leave Pooley in peace
[16:02] Oskar Linden: glad I got the chance to show off my little home
[16:03] Melfina Marshdevil: its awesome
[16:03] Moundsa Mayo: Can we crash here?
[16:03] Melfina Marshdevil: heh
[16:03] Oskar Linden: crash?
[16:03] Oskar Linden: no
[16:03] Oskar Linden: no crashing

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