Open Development User Group/Archive/2011-05-04
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13:30 | Yuzuru | Hello Oz. |
oobscure | hi everybody | |
Yuzuru | Hello | |
Office Orb | mail_to set to oz@lindenlab.com | |
Start transcription to oz@lindenlab.com | ||
Transcript will be sent to: oz@lindenlab.com | ||
oobscure | there were new web boxes in the login screen | |
13:31 | new to me at least. | |
Oz Linden | No new OPEN issues to look at today, so I have a topic: | |
13:32 | Do you use DebugOS builds on Windows? (as opposed to RelWithDebInfoOS) | |
caps router chum | I made it, weee | |
teddy Zepp | hello all | |
13:33 | caps router chum | stabs caps router |
Oz Linden | let me put it another way: suppose we were to remove Debug builds ... would you care? | |
13:34 | no one? | |
বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে | I use it on Linux | |
Oz Linden | sleepy crowd | |
teddy Zepp | ;_0 | |
;-) | ||
Techwolf Lupindo | My OS build setup handles debugging builds. I run under gdb and portage does split-debug. | |
caps router chum | You only asked about 3 seconds ago >.> | |
Yuzuru | Sorry.. I am thinking about it.. | |
caps router chum | I've only used debug once, it was only slightly useful in that case | |
Oz Linden | was longer than that for me.... must have been lagged | |
13:35 | caps router chum | slightly more usefull* than RelWithDebInfo |
Yuzuru | If I can compile it, I don't need debug build. | |
Techwolf Lupindo | I _think_ LL Debug setting only does a couple things to the code? | |
Oz Linden | I ask because they don't work on the mesh branch, which I'm attempting to merge now | |
13:36 | বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে | define "don't work"? |
caps router chum | Ah. | |
Dependenacy or code problems? | ||
Techwolf Lupindo | Perhaps we can give you a better answer Oz if we knew just what DebInfo does. | |
13:37 | বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে | Main difference between RelWithDebInfo and Debug is that the former is optimized, I think. |
Oz Linden | They are using tcmalloc to deal with some alignment issues for SSE support, but it breaks the MS heap debugger | |
13:38 | I actually don't know what the difference is specifically | |
oobscure | personally I don't need it. I only build to provide feedback to LL, so if LL doesn't need user Debug builds it's fine for me. | |
caps router chum | I think RelWithDebInfo uses the release libs but without optomizations and generates the debug symbols | |
Oz Linden | personally I am not in habit of ever using debuggers (life as a real time networking dev) | |
I use external observation and logging | ||
13:39 | Techwolf Lupindo | There is a couple #if defines that on debug, crash while Release will warning log and continue. |
13:40 | বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে | does RelWithDebInfo execute llassert()s or only llalwaysassert()? I know Release doesn't execute llasert()s. |
caps router chum | I think it does | |
Oz Linden | don't know, but that should be easy to figure out | |
Techwolf Lupindo | On linux, all debugging symbles are gen at compile with a gcc flag and those symbles can be stripped at the end and end up wiht a bin just like the gcc debug wasn't there. Hence why split-debug works. The bin is stripped and debugging is in a seperate file. | |
13:41 | caps router chum | There's bugs I'm hit were you'd only generate an error on RelWithDebInfo |
I'd* | ||
বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে | ok | |
13:42 | Then Debug probably isn't too important. There should just be some way to test whether non-realease assertions are hit, and with RelWithDebInfo that's available, then. | |
But if you want more feedback, better ask on the mailing list. I suspect there aren't many windows based devs here, today. | ||
13:43 | Oz Linden | I'll do that |
13:44 | very likely, I'll check in the mesh merge, which will break it, and then we'll figure out what to do about it after | |
Techwolf Lupindo | I would also help to clearify just what is the differences are to begine with, so that would be a good secondary question for the list. | |
13:45 | After that mesh merge, going to play with it and see if one huge patch can be generated of just the mesh stuff. | |
বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে | what for, Techwolf? | |
Oz Linden | well, it's around 2100 changesets.... | |
13:46 | বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে | I doubt that hube patch would apply to anything but exactly what it was made for. |
*huge | ||
Techwolf Lupindo | Looking at single changeset does'nt give you the idea of what all was changed. | |
Oz Linden | you certainly have an interesting way to entertain yourself.... | |
13:47 | caps router chum | Is it possible to build the mesh viewer under OS config? I'm assuming that the missing convex lib isn't a blocker to build. |
Techwolf Lupindo | hehehe | |
Oz Linden | there is a stub version of the lib available on bitbucket | |
13:48 | you'll have to build that locally and substitute the package into the autobuild configuration file | |
which is something we need to make easier.... | ||
13:49 | বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে | Different topic: Can EXP-749 be made publicly visible, please? VWR-25595 was closed as a duplicate of it. |
Office Orb | http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-25595
VWR-25595 Profile Icons (group, user) and other art missing or defaulting to generic | |
13:51 | Oz Linden | it should be visible |
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/EXP-749 | ||
caps router chum | Ah. | |
Oz Linden | it's set to be visible, anyway | |
caps router chum | Not for me | |
oobscure | VWR-25477 - same problem | |
Techwolf Lupindo | Permission Violation | |
বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে | I get "Permission Violation" on that, (like on most exp issues) | |
Oz Linden | are you logged in to jira? | |
13:52 | caps router chum | Yes. |
বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে | yes | |
Oz Linden | hmmm.... | |
Techwolf Lupindo | I'me logged in | |
Yuzuru | I am login but I can't see EXP-749 | |
Ima Mechanique | same here for "Permission Violation" | |
13:53 | Yuzuru | Permission Violation, same |
বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে | VWR-25477 is actually a even worser case, as that was moved to EXP-752, so even the originally public issue isn't visible anymore. | |
Oz Linden | I'll see what I can do... I'll have to file an issue against jira | |
13:54 | বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে | Thanks. |
caps router chum | Lol. | |
Oz Linden | if it's any comfort, both those issues are marked as fixed | |
caps router chum | Is there an issue on the openID problems with jira killing open tabs? | |
Oz Linden | but may not have been merged yet, I don't know | |
13:55 | I don't know what you're referring to, caps | |
বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে | I think the fixes are both in viewer-development, now | |
13:56 | Office Orb | End transcription |
caps router chum | When resuming a session in firefox and the openID auth redirects all open jira tabs to the dashboard. | |
I found the caps issue jira, SVC-6917 | ||
Office Orb | http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-6917
SVC-6917 Apache2-worker/caps router on sim hosts is relaying 499 HTTP status codes back to clients - not a valid wire status code | |
Oz Linden | oh... I don't know if there's an issue for that or not | |
if there is, it would be in WEB | ||
বরুনদাশ গুপ্তে | ah, yeah, jira doesn't seem to be very RESTful :-P | |
caps router chum | I couldnt find one
WEB-2771 Following a direct link to a JIRA issues shows the system dashboard instead on the first try STORM-1178 Develop tests for GPU table changes |