Beta Server Office Hours/Minutes/2009-12-10
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This meeting was held on December 10th, 2009
Agenda
- Discuss resolution of previous open items.
- Updates
- Releases
- 1.34.0 is live on AGNI now
- Any other business
- wassup with SVC-3895
Resolved Items
1.34.0 is released on AGNI
Meeting Minutes
- Talked about 1.34
- Talked about Linden Homes
- Let the meeting out early
Transcript
Transcript of Oskar Linden's Beta Server Office Hour for December 10th, 2009:
[15:03] Psi Merlin: Looks OK so far. [15:03] Oskar Linden: hello [15:03] Psi Merlin: Hi Oskar [15:03] Liandra Ceawlin: Howdy! [15:03] Lil Linden: well.. that's good :) [15:03] Roland Riddler: hello [15:04] Oskar Linden rustles up an agenda [15:04] Oskar Linden: what are you guys up to today? [15:04] Psi Merlin: Did you reroll the pilot regions with the main group Lil? [15:05] Richard Linden is Online [15:06] Lil Linden: The pilot regions were rolled on Tuesday [15:07] Oskar Linden: this is the agenda link http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Beta_Server_Office_Hours [15:07] Oskar Linden: I'm a little out of it today [15:08] Oskar Linden: my brain is mush [15:08] Liandra Ceawlin: There's an agenda nao! =:o [15:08] Oskar Linden: yes liandra [15:08] Oskar Linden: the biggest news is that 1.34.0 is fully rolled to AGNI [15:08] Oskar Linden: right lil? [15:09] Psi Merlin: Sanrk received the pilot on Tuesday as usaul - and restarted on the same sim host today - could be it just fell over. [15:09] Psi Merlin: *Snark [15:09] Oskar Linden: anything you wanna talk about in regards to the release lil? [15:09] Lil Linden: that is indeed the biggest news [15:09] Lil Linden: Hmm. [15:09] kizmut Smit: I got "different version " messages a couple times TP'ing around today. [15:09] Lil Linden: I'm mostly interested in hearing about any issues that might be 1.34 related [15:10] Oskar Linden: as am I [15:10] Psi Merlin: Hi Ima, Krahazik [15:10] Lil Linden: not much else to report. The big "surprise" of 1.34 has been blogged about now [15:10] Oskar Linden: so I'm sure you can all guess what the 'extra' stuff in 1.34 was after last weeks blog post [15:10] Oskar Linden: heh [15:10] Oskar Linden: lil beat me to it [15:10] Oskar Linden: so yeah, Linden Homes [15:10] Lil Linden: https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/land/blog/2009/12/04/home-is-where-you-hang-your-avatars-hat [15:10] Ima Mechanique: hi Psi, everyone [15:10] Oskar Linden: we had to do some parcel level restructuring code [15:11] Oskar Linden: some script limits related stuff [15:11] Oskar Linden: most of the changes were to deploy related tools though [15:11] Oskar Linden: a few sim changes, and a few db schema changes [15:11] Oskar Linden: a lot of the code is web related [15:12] Oskar Linden: so yeah [15:12] Lil Linden: just out of curiosity, any opinions on the Linden Homes project? [15:12] Twisted Laws: i think it sounds like a good idea [15:12] Oskar Linden: I'm pretty excited about it actually [15:12] Oskar Linden: the new regions look AMAZING [15:13] Liandra Ceawlin: I think anything that can help make new users stay is a good idea. It seems like there are not many staying anymore. I don't think it's handy for older users, but I guess that is not its purpose. :P [15:13] Twisted Laws: are they online? [15:13] kizmut Smit: Jack showed me a pic from there.. [15:13] kizmut Smit: It's got some HUGE shrooms lying around, [15:13] Oskar Linden: of course they are online twisted [15:13] Oskar Linden: just not a line you can get to :-D [15:13] Twisted Laws: haha [15:14] kizmut Smit: What would you say is the biggest difference between Linden Homes and First Land (besides the free houses and landscaping)? [15:14] Oskar Linden: what is first land? [15:15] kizmut Smit: The original beginner's land for paying users. [15:15] Oskar Linden: I guess I wasn't here for it [15:15] Twisted Laws: sounds like you can't game the new method the way that first land was being gamed [15:15] kizmut Smit: I think it ended in 2007 [15:15] Oskar Linden: Linden Homes is set up pretty nifty [15:16] kizmut Smit: Your profile says 2008 so that would make sense.. heh [15:16] Twisted Laws: i got my first land and all the land around me was soon for sale at 5 times the cost or more [15:16] Oskar Linden: your parcel comes with a fully functioning home AND you have full prim allocation [15:16] Liandra Ceawlin: The linden home uses up the 512m premium tier, right? Or do we get both? >_> [15:16] Oskar Linden: it will use your tier [15:16] Liandra Ceawlin: Nods. [15:16] Ima Mechanique: do you still pay to buy the Linden HOme? [15:16] Liandra Ceawlin: Oh, the homes don't count against prim allowance huh? Very cool. [15:16] Oskar Linden: no you do not pay for the home [15:17] Ima Mechanique: OK are us oldbies eligible? [15:17] Oskar Linden: if you have not used your tier I believe you are [15:17] Liandra Ceawlin: Doh, lol. [15:17] Ima Mechanique: hehe I can get my tier back [15:17] Oskar Linden: sell sell sell! [15:18] Oskar Linden: my alt will buy it for L$10 [15:18] Richard Linden is Offline [15:18] Liandra Ceawlin: Evil. :P [15:18] Lil Linden: oskar's a shrewd business man [15:18] Oskar Linden: actually Oskar is nice... watch out for his alt though [15:19] Richard Linden is Online [15:20] Twisted Laws: its hard for me to beat the tier on a couple sandboxes tho, great prim limit (usually) [15:20] Oskar Linden: heh [15:20] Oskar Linden: soooo [15:20] Oskar Linden: how is 1.34 feeling on AGNI? [15:21] Psi Merlin: They sound like a nice idea - the prim limit for 512 is kinda tight to work with if you have to make a nice home with it as well. [15:21] Oskar Linden: Psi... we're making the home [15:21] Oskar Linden: and it doesn't count against uyor prim limit [15:21] Twisted Laws: seems great (sandboxes in pilot) and haven't seen any problems there [15:21] kizmut Smit: I'm not seeing any difference TBH. [15:21] Oskar Linden: awesome kizmut [15:21] Oskar Linden: 1.34 was a ***** to release [15:22] Richard Linden is Offline [15:22] Psi Merlin: Yes - the included home helps a lot there. [15:22] Liandra Ceawlin: I can't tell any difference. I didn't realize there had been a rolling restart until this morning, lol. [15:22] Oskar Linden: it did NOT want to go out [15:22] Lil Linden: ***** = pleasure [15:22] Lil Linden: right? [15:22] Oskar Linden: no [15:22] Lil Linden: hehe [15:22] Oskar Linden: it felt like giving birth to an elephant [15:22] Lil Linden: Liandra: most of what was in 1.34 was for Linden Homes [15:22] Lil Linden: there are a couple bug fixes though [15:22] Liandra Ceawlin: Nods. I meant that in a good way, like, no bugs I have seen. :P [15:22] Oskar Linden: there was a last minute content breaking showstopper that took us a few days to figure out [15:22] Lil Linden: gotcha :) [15:22] kizmut Smit: Linden Homes is supposed to encourage people to get used to having land on SL.. to stimulate the real estate market. [15:23] Oskar Linden: among other things kizmut [15:23] Psi Merlin: 1.34 arrived on agni without drama for me. [15:23] Oskar Linden: the regions are really pretty [15:23] Oskar Linden: but yeah, we got 1.34 through QA finally [15:24] Oskar Linden: really last minute possible [15:24] Oskar Linden: but it seems to have gone well and is looking good [15:24] Oskar Linden: thanks all for your help in the beta testing phase [15:25] Object: Me is a bear [15:25] Twisted Laws: whens 1.36 coming? [15:25] Oskar Linden: well we are getting code complete this week hopefully [15:26] Oskar Linden: I think it is scheduled for mid january [15:26] Liandra Ceawlin: And is there any ETA yet for BabbageMagic on Agni, the memory quota testing and such, I mean? [15:27] Liandra Ceawlin: Sorry for bothering about it, but I am supposed to ask, lol. [15:27] Lil Linden: 1.36 is scheduled for early February [15:28] Oskar Linden: BabbageMagic? [15:28] Lil Linden: is that Script Limits? [15:28] Oskar Linden: is that a euphemism? [15:28] Lil Linden: hehe [15:28] Oskar Linden: I am imagining a Linden talent show [15:28] Oskar Linden: where Babbage does magic [15:29] Oskar Linden: Lindens Got Talent [15:29] Opensource Obscure: maybe it's about SVC-3895 [15:29] Liandra Ceawlin: Lol! [15:29] JIRA-helper: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-3895 [#SVC-3895] Rezzing Mono scripted object cripples sim FPS [15:29] Oskar Linden: sometimes my dysleixa is hilarious [15:29] Psi Merlin: Steam powered magic of course [15:29] Oskar Linden: I read 'cripples' without the cr [15:29] Oskar Linden: and an n [15:29] Liandra Ceawlin: Yea, script limits, Lil. Sorry, phone is ringing a lot. :< [15:29] Oskar Linden did a triple take [15:29] Oskar Linden: *sigh* [15:31] Opensource Obscure: IIRC, we're going to get improved Statistics with regard to server performances. is this complete server-side now? [15:31] Lil Linden: I'm not sure what the schedule on that is [15:32] Lil Linden: now that 1.34 is done though, it'll probably come up on the radar [15:32] Lil Linden: ask next week :) [15:32] Liandra Ceawlin: Okies, thanks. :P [15:32] Oskar Linden: we had our first 1.36 planning meeting yesterday [15:32] Oskar Linden: I have already forgot almost everything they said [15:33] Oskar Linden: I don't really have anything else today [15:33] kizmut Smit makes a note "nipples sim" preferred over "cripples sim" [15:33] Oskar Linden: I didn't say preferred [15:33] kizmut Smit: I would. [15:33] Twisted Laws: why is main grid 140927 and this one is 140892? [15:33] Oskar Linden: it is just interesting to me how my dyslexia intentionally tries to brighten my day [15:33] Oskar Linden: Twisted: it's because we haven't updated this [15:34] Oskar Linden: we were SUPER tight for time [15:34] Oskar Linden: and were testing the last bug fix on a single region [15:34] Twisted Laws: ah [15:34] Lil Linden: I'll roll Aditi to catch it up next week [15:34] Ima Mechanique: Oskar, that's not dyslexia, just a dirty mind [15:34] Oskar Linden: :-( [15:34] Lil Linden: feel free to pester me about that on Agni if it's not done in a timely manner :) [15:35] Oskar Linden: probably so Ima but you didn't have to call me on it [15:35] Twisted Laws: and the sim i rent land it was rebooted twice today :p [15:35] Ima Mechanique: no, but I'm helpful like that ;-) [15:36] Twisted Laws: 8:31 and 13:24 [15:36] Liandra Ceawlin: I apologize for being rude, but I'm going to have to go back to agni. People chasing me with pitchforks and such. ;( Y'all have a good day, and thanks for your time! [15:36] Twisted Laws: bye [15:36] Ima Mechanique: bye Liandra, don't let the peasants get you ;-) [15:37] Oskar Linden: have a good one liandra [15:37] Lil Linden: thanks for coming Liandra [15:37] Oskar Linden: she's already gone [15:37] Lil Linden: oh. [15:37] Lil Linden is slow. [15:37] kizmut Smit replaces "pitchforks"with "nipples" in his notes too for good measure [15:37] Oskar Linden: anybody working on anything cool? [15:38] Oskar Linden: good idea kizmut [15:38] Twisted Laws: snowglobe patches.. actually got one in finally :) [15:38] Opensource Obscure: my region uses social networks now. http://friendfeed.com/lolsl [15:38] Ima Mechanique: no, wrestiling with Media content [15:38] kizmut Smit: Been trying ways to get region names outside the sim with only global coords. [15:38] Oskar Linden: interesting [15:39] kizmut Smit: Within LSL of course) [15:39] Oskar Linden: of course [15:39] kizmut Smit: I'm sure it is more likely possible withoutside means. [15:39] kizmut Smit: ohh edia content.. that reminds me.. [15:39] Oskar Linden: so Ovaltine, what is your spherical rotator thingy? [15:40] kizmut Smit: I saw a youtube video of someone using interactive flash media in-world. [15:40] Opensource Obscure: mmm link, kizmut? [15:40] Oskar Linden: there are some interesting internal projects that we are working on like that [15:40] Twisted Laws: old dale glass'es viewer had a region.xml file that give you the location to name database, kismut but not in lsl [15:40] Opensource Obscure: talk us about them, oskar! [15:40] Oskar Linden: WELL... [15:41] Oskar Linden: I can't [15:41] Oskar Linden: but they sure are interesting [15:41] Oskar Linden: and will be out as soon as they get them to lil and I [15:41] Oskar Linden: and we give the all clear signal [15:41] Ima Mechanique: Oskar, you tease [15:41] Ovaltine Constantine: Oh, Lady Gaga's "The Orbit" [15:41] Oskar Linden: yes I do [15:41] Oskar Linden: did you make it ovaltine? [15:41] Ovaltine Constantine: Yah [15:42] Oskar Linden: cool [15:42] Twisted Laws: i gotta go, cya all laters [15:42] Oskar Linden: later twisted [15:42] kizmut Smit: bye bye Twisted [15:42] Opensource Obscure: bye twisted! [15:42] Ima Mechanique: bye Twisted [15:42] Oskar Linden: can I get a copy on agni Ovaltine? [15:42] Lil Linden: adios [15:42] Oskar Linden bats his eyes suggestively [15:42] Ovaltine Constantine: Teehee [15:42] Ovaltine Constantine: Ok [15:42] Oskar Linden: \o/ [15:43] Opensource Obscure: (( anyone can share or point to a good script for basic sim statistics? )) [15:44] Oskar Linden: I'd ask Moon Metty [15:44] Oskar Linden: she always had fancy stuff [15:45] Oskar Linden: I'd love to see an animation in world tied to when you have your inv window open and are ruffling through it [15:45] Oskar Linden: it would look like you are digging through a bag [15:45] Oskar Linden: well, unless you guys want to sit here for 15 more minutes and just chat we can end this early? [15:45] Oskar Linden: I really have nothing more to chat about LL related [15:45] kizmut Smit: Mine wouldn't look so social at most times then. [15:46] Opensource Obscure: did i lose answer to this? > IIRC, we're going to get improved Statistics with regard to server performances. is this complete server-side now? [15:46] Oskar Linden: I don't know OSO [15:46] Oskar Linden: can I call you OSO? [15:46] Opensource Obscure: fine [15:46] Opensource Obscure: it would be OSOm [15:46] Ima Mechanique: would be good with a "sorting inventory" specific version. - ruruffles through and chucks stuff occasionally [15:46] Oskar Linden: :-D [15:46] Oskar Linden: not OSOb? [15:47] Opensource Obscure: I meant Awesome sorry [15:47] kizmut Smit: I got it OSOM [15:47] Opensource Obscure: ah well babylon [15:47] kizmut Smit: XD [15:47] Oskar Linden: I was just trying to truncate your long name [15:47] Oskar Linden: like 'lil' [15:48] Oskar Linden: ez to type [15:48] Oskar Linden: 2 letters [15:48] Opensource Obscure: that would be awesome = osom [15:48] Oskar Linden: I write it ossm [15:48] Oskar Linden: :-D [15:48] Oskar Linden is having a bad beard day [15:48] Opensource Obscure: xD [15:48] Oskar Linden: like a bad hair day [15:48] Oskar Linden: for beards [15:48] Ima Mechanique: but lower [15:48] Oskar Linden: yeah [15:48] Oskar Linden: a few inches [15:49] Opensource Obscure: i'm going to do a job meeting tomorrow. i should die now. bye all! thanks for the meeting [15:49] Oskar Linden: I just can't get it together today [15:49] Oskar Linden: gonna need some gel [15:49] Oskar Linden: or beard pomade [15:49] Opensource Obscure: ahahah [15:49] Ima Mechanique: bye OS [15:49] Oskar Linden: later OSOb ;-) [15:49] Opensource Obscure: byeeye [15:49] Oskar Linden: I think I am gonna adjourn this meeting [15:49] Oskar Linden: keep an eye out on AGNI for 1.34 issues [15:49] Oskar Linden: I'd appreciate it [15:50] Ima Mechanique: adjourn away, never stops us talking ;-) [15:50] Oskar Linden: thanks all [15:50] Lil Linden: anyone wanna see a video of some lindens pwning rockband? :) [15:50] Oskar Linden: I am gonna AFK here for a minute though [15:50] Ima Mechanique: oh yeah lil [15:50] Lil Linden: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et8eboYjCqk [15:50] Oskar Linden: that is a time shift video [15:50] Psi Merlin: Thanks Oskar, Lil [15:50] Oskar Linden: all 4 of those people are Lil [15:50] Oskar Linden: seriosuly [15:50] Oskar Linden: recorded 4 times [15:50] Oskar Linden: stitched together [15:50] Oskar Linden: Lil is AMAZING [15:50] Lil Linden: interesting [15:50] Lil Linden: I didn't know I did that [15:51] Oskar Linden: you were drunk [15:51] Oskar Linden: again [15:51] Lil Linden: I am a pretty hot vocalist though [15:51] Oskar Linden: totally [15:51] Oskar Linden: ok everyone [15:51] Oskar Linden: thanks for coming [15:51] Oskar Linden: :-D [15:51] Oskar Linden: l8r) [15:51] Lil Linden: adios guys :) [15:51] Oskar Linden: /afk [15:52] Lil Linden is Offline [15:52] Ima Mechanique: bye Oskar [15:53] Ima Mechanique: bye Psi [15:53] Roland Riddler: cya all [16:01] Psi Merlin waves