Beta Server Office Hours/Minutes/2015-01-29
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[2015/01/29 15:00] DG-X 3000 Mix Deck: Click on me to get dialog box
[2015/01/29 15:00] DG-X 3000 Mix Deck: Type /1a to get adjust dialog box
[2015/01/29 15:00] Caleb Linden: hiya
[2015/01/29 15:00] Lucia Nightfire: and hi
[2015/01/29 15:00] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Hello, Caleb.
[2015/01/29 15:01] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Hello, Inara, Lucia, Whirly, Gibson and Jenna.
[2015/01/29 15:01] Whirly Fizzle: Heya Caleb
[2015/01/29 15:01] Taiyou Braveheart: /me barks!
[2015/01/29 15:01] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Hello, Tiyou.
[2015/01/29 15:02] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Hello, arton and Psi.
[2015/01/29 15:02] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Hello, Nalates.
[2015/01/29 15:02] arton Rotaru: Gr0? Gott
[2015/01/29 15:02] arton Rotaru: lol
[2015/01/29 15:02] arton Rotaru: I'll try that again next week
[2015/01/29 15:02] Caleb Linden: Servus
[2015/01/29 15:02] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Hello, TankMaster.
[2015/01/29 15:03] Nal (nalates.urriah): Hi Yuzuru abd all...
[2015/01/29 15:03] Nal (nalates.urriah): and^
[2015/01/29 15:03] Jenna Felton: hello all who came after my last greetings :)
[2015/01/29 15:04] Inara Breen: Hi, folk who arrived while I was akf!
[2015/01/29 15:05] arton Rotaru: I see some missing avatar pieces on Jenna and Gibson
[2015/01/29 15:05] arton Rotaru: ahh there they are
[2015/01/29 15:05] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Hello, Martin.
[2015/01/29 15:06] MartinRJ Fayray: hi
[2015/01/29 15:06] Inara Breen: Thought you might be participating in the snowball fight over on the main grid, Caleb ;-)
[2015/01/29 15:06] Caleb Linden: I should! I miss snow
[2015/01/29 15:06] Caleb Linden: the snow
[2015/01/29 15:06] Caleb Linden: not the rapper
[2015/01/29 15:06] And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): i want snow
[2015/01/29 15:07] And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): its to warm here
[2015/01/29 15:07] Whirly Fizzle: WE have snow today \o/
[2015/01/29 15:07] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): It's snowing here. 5 cm snow layed.
[2015/01/29 15:07] Gibson Firehawk: im not jealous :P
[2015/01/29 15:07] Nal (nalates.urriah): 74F and overcast here... rain coming.
[2015/01/29 15:07] Rex Cronon: hello folks
[2015/01/29 15:08] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): http://www.hiroshima-u.ac.jp/top/camera/ This university is near here.
[2015/01/29 15:08] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Hello, Rex.
[2015/01/29 15:08] Jenna Felton: hi Rex
[2015/01/29 15:08] Caleb Linden: There was an event in SF where they announced that snow would be delivered for a snow ball fight, and all it was was a little pile dumped on a haystack
[2015/01/29 15:08] Rex Cronon: hi yuzuru
[2015/01/29 15:08] Rex Cronon: hi jenna
[2015/01/29 15:09] rcdsQueChatLog: State changed.{click me to get the url}
[2015/01/29 15:09] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Hello, Simon.
[2015/01/29 15:09] Caleb Linden: simon said he is going to come in a minute
[2015/01/29 15:09] Inara Breen: That's still enough to bring around 1.3 of the UK to a grinding halt, Caleb ...
[2015/01/29 15:09] Caleb Linden: oh hi simon
[2015/01/29 15:09] Inara Breen: 1/3, rather!
[2015/01/29 15:09] Simon Linden: Hi everyone
[2015/01/29 15:09] And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): heya simon
[2015/01/29 15:09] Inara Breen: Hi, Simon.
[2015/01/29 15:09] Whirly Fizzle: Heya Simon
[2015/01/29 15:09] Rex Cronon: hi simon
[2015/01/29 15:09] Whirly Fizzle: I know right Inara? Doesnt take much lol
[2015/01/29 15:10] Jenna Felton: hi Simon :)
[2015/01/29 15:10] Inara Breen: One sodding hail storm here, Whirls, and people were screaming about the terrible driving conditions....
[2015/01/29 15:10] Caleb Linden: let's get started for the quick updates.
[2015/01/29 15:11] Caleb Linden: For the RC Channels we have the fix for "Issue with llRequestExperiencePermissions() triggering experience_permissions_denied() and XP_ERROR_NOT_PERMITTED_LAND after prior 5 minute no response period. ". Please go ahead and confirm if you like
[2015/01/29 15:11] Lucia Nightfire: it works now
[2015/01/29 15:11] Caleb Linden: great!
[2015/01/29 15:12] Caleb Linden: and simon, has put out a new chat server code on aditi, which we are going to stress test later
[2015/01/29 15:13] Caleb Linden: I hope that I fixed all the wiki pages that were relevant to us, but if there are any left outdated, let me know
[2015/01/29 15:14] Caleb Linden: I open the floor for questions now :)
[2015/01/29 15:14] Caleb Linden: simon, let us know when you want to do the pile on
[2015/01/29 15:14] Whirly Fizzle: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_Release/3.7.25.298030 needs edited to remove "MAINT-2560 Please show avatar names above camera crosshairs in Show Look At feature" from resolved issues list please. That feature was backed out.
[2015/01/29 15:15] Caleb Linden: thank you, i'll pass it along
[2015/01/29 15:15] Whirly Fizzle: Ta
[2015/01/29 15:15] Gibson Firehawk: /me nolink> smiles
[2015/01/29 15:15] Whirly Fizzle: Gibson! lol
[2015/01/29 15:15] Gibson Firehawk: lol
[2015/01/29 15:16] Whirly Fizzle: Stop doing that. I keep thinking FS has that bug ;)
[2015/01/29 15:17] Whirly Fizzle: Im going to change my display name on agni to nolink :D
[2015/01/29 15:17] And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): whats that do?
[2015/01/29 15:17] Gibson Firehawk: the maint-rc viewer
[2015/01/29 15:17] Whirly Fizzle: Its a bug in the maint-RC lol
[2015/01/29 15:17] Gibson Firehawk: nolink> is seen all over the place
[2015/01/29 15:17] Gibson Firehawk: so bad it wonders how it ever passed QA....if there even was QA
[2015/01/29 15:18] Lucia Nightfire: I wonder how a lot of stuff passes QA
[2015/01/29 15:18] Gibson Firehawk: whats the bug count for the maint-rc now Whirly....4 or 5?
[2015/01/29 15:19] Whirly Fizzle: hmm sec
[2015/01/29 15:19] Caleb Linden: This? https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-8324
[2015/01/29 15:19] Whirly Fizzle: https://jira.secondlife.com/issues/?filter=16749
[2015/01/29 15:19] Inara Breen: /me looks under the speaker rim, "Hi, Oz!"
[2015/01/29 15:19] Oz Linden: Hi
[2015/01/29 15:19] Whirly Fizzle: Heya Oz
[2015/01/29 15:20] Gibson Firehawk: yes thats it Caleb...and even more spots than that ticket covers
[2015/01/29 15:20] Whirly Fizzle: Check the dupe for more places
[2015/01/29 15:21] Caleb Linden: I read in an internal backlog that the viewer version carrying the fix is currently under test
[2015/01/29 15:21] Caleb Linden: let me check some more
[2015/01/29 15:23] Caleb Linden: It's not in 298030
[2015/01/29 15:24] Whirly Fizzle: No, thats the Maint-RC with the bug
[2015/01/29 15:24] Gibson Firehawk: 29830 is the one currently in the pipe that the bug repros on
[2015/01/29 15:26] Caleb Linden: Simon or Oz, is there a viewer user group meeting where this bug can be addressed?
[2015/01/29 15:26] Simon Linden: We'll get to this later, but please join the groups "Group Chat Chat" and "Group Chat Test"
[2015/01/29 15:26] Caleb Linden: ok will do
[2015/01/29 15:26] Simon Linden: BUG-8324 ?
[2015/01/29 15:26] Whirly Fizzle: secondlife:///app/group/fa943583-23f5-3242-da23-52024f1e05c4/about secondlife:///app/group/19e6bef4-74bc-242c-e49f-94815cb3b494/about
[2015/01/29 15:27] Oz Linden: What do you mean by 'addressed'?
[2015/01/29 15:27] Simon Linden: That's already been brought into the system ... it'll get fixed
[2015/01/29 15:27] Caleb Linden: where they can ask about BUG-8324
[2015/01/29 15:28] Caleb Linden: great, thanks simon
[2015/01/29 15:28] Gibson Firehawk: it just got brought up during Whirly teasting as a side note
[2015/01/29 15:28] Gibson Firehawk: =)
[2015/01/29 15:29] Whirly Fizzle: nolink yus. S'all good :D
[2015/01/29 15:29] Caleb Linden: chatting while teleporting and crossing regions?
[2015/01/29 15:29] Oz Linden: It's in the pipeline and will be fixed
[2015/01/29 15:29] Simon Linden: I updated our internal report status so it will get attention
[2015/01/29 15:30] Whirly Fizzle: Though a new weekly UG for discussing viewer issues would be nice
[2015/01/29 15:30] Whirly Fizzle: There isn't one
[2015/01/29 15:31] Lucia Nightfire: Caleb should get his own show, I mena UG, heh
[2015/01/29 15:31] Oz Linden: it's certainly fine to bring them up at my Monday morning meeting (though it's cancelled next week)
[2015/01/29 15:31] Simon Linden: He has one here :)
[2015/01/29 15:31] Nal (nalates.urriah): Isn't the OS MOnday meeting good for that viewer discussion?
[2015/01/29 15:32] TuTy's - Happy Guy FREE AO - priority3 (just wear): *** IF THE AO DOES NOT START IN 30 SECONDS PLEASE UNWEAR AND WEAR IT AGAIN ***
[2015/01/29 15:32] TuTy's - Happy Guy FREE AO - priority3 (just wear): Loading notecard 'Default'...
[2015/01/29 15:32] TuTy's - Happy Guy FREE AO - priority3 (just wear): Typing override: On
[2015/01/29 15:32] TuTy's - Happy Guy FREE AO - priority3 (just wear): 12 animation entries found in Notecard.
[2015/01/29 15:32] TuTy's - Happy Guy FREE AO - priority3 (just wear): Finished reading notecard 'Default'.
[2015/01/29 15:32] Second Life: Entering god mode, level 200
[2015/01/29 15:33] TuTy's - Happy Guy FREE AO - priority3 (just wear): *** IF THE AO DOES NOT START IN 30 SECONDS PLEASE UNWEAR AND WEAR IT AGAIN ***
[2015/01/29 15:33] TuTy's - Happy Guy FREE AO - priority3 (just wear): Loading notecard 'Default'...
[2015/01/29 15:33] TuTy's - Happy Guy FREE AO - priority3 (just wear): Typing override: On
[2015/01/29 15:33] TuTy's - Happy Guy FREE AO - priority3 (just wear): 12 animation entries found in Notecard.
[2015/01/29 15:33] TuTy's - Happy Guy FREE AO - priority3 (just wear): Finished reading notecard 'Default'.
[2015/01/29 15:33] Second Life: Entering god mode, level 200
[2015/01/29 15:37] Caleb Linden: oooh it froze up for a bit
[2015/01/29 15:37] Lucia Nightfire: cause 2014 only got one feature in that regard
[2015/01/29 15:37] Simon Linden: We have a nice pile of LSL feature requests piling up :)
[2015/01/29 15:37] Oz Linden: Simon is the LSL Feature Champion, so be nice to him
[2015/01/29 15:37] Lucia Nightfire: heh
[2015/01/29 15:37] arton Rotaru: [15:37] Caleb Linden: oooh it froze up for a bit Me Too
[2015/01/29 15:38] Lucia Nightfire: well, everyone has their assignments before their fun
[2015/01/29 15:38] arton Rotaru: me too got frozen
[2015/01/29 15:38] Oz Linden: We had hoped to be able to count a general release of Experiences as the big LSL feature for last year... didn't quite make that
[2015/01/29 15:38] Nal (nalates.urriah): Got a big lockup on Group Chat Test entry
[2015/01/29 15:38] Gibson Firehawk: is the experience tools viewer expected to be released soon?
[2015/01/29 15:38] Lucia Nightfire: I'm sort of glad it didn't get released then as theres been a lot of fixes in the last half year
[2015/01/29 15:39] Caleb Linden: froze up again
[2015/01/29 15:39] Oz Linden: It's just waiting for some server side work to finish
[2015/01/29 15:39] Whirly Fizzle: If you don't disable logging the viewer will freeze a bit when the chats being spammed like that
[2015/01/29 15:39] Lucia Nightfire: theres still a few more to go too, heh, but its overall much better looking for release now
[2015/01/29 15:39] Nal (nalates.urriah): Has any price been decided on for Exp Toll Keys?
[2015/01/29 15:39] Oz Linden: Yes
[2015/01/29 15:40] Whirly Fizzle: Did everyonme top spamming the group chats? Im not seeing any new posts
[2015/01/29 15:40] Lucia Nightfire: I'm still waiting on Troy to say yay or nay on my grid-wide key request, heh
[2015/01/29 15:40] Nal (nalates.urriah): Do we have to wait for official announcement? :)
[2015/01/29 15:40] Whirly Fizzle: Oh Tank started again lol
[2015/01/29 15:40] Simon Linden: So the lag in the viewer there ...
[2015/01/29 15:40] Simon Linden: I believe thats viewer side and because of having a lot of chat history
[2015/01/29 15:41] Whirly Fizzle: Ya
[2015/01/29 15:41] Oz Linden: Of course, Nal :-)
[2015/01/29 15:41] Whirly Fizzle: Thats not new, its always happened
[2015/01/29 15:41] And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): dunno qwhat your refering to...
[2015/01/29 15:41] Simon Linden: I hit it as well ... clicking on the group tab after being in local
[2015/01/29 15:41] Nal (nalates.urriah): Yeah, I get significant viewer freeze going into Group Chat Test
[2015/01/29 15:41] Inara Breen: Yup, ditto
[2015/01/29 15:42] Lucia Nightfire: gah, thought I was gonna crash, lol
[2015/01/29 15:42] Simon Linden: If we're basicaly done here, I'm going to go cross a few regions to see how chat goes
[2015/01/29 15:42] Simon Linden: Thanks everyone for the help today
[2015/01/29 15:43] And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): fun times
[2015/01/29 15:43] Inara Breen: Also getting it when swapping from Group Chat Chat to Group Chat Test.
[2015/01/29 15:43] Inara Breen: I blame Tank!
[2015/01/29 15:43] Jenna Felton: that seems a nice group chat bomb, just tell a large group to post a large web page into group chat exatelly at 12PM :)
[2015/01/29 15:44] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Group chat spam!
[2015/01/29 15:44] Whirly Fizzle: Append chat messages, fonts & Process messages <- in fast timers
[2015/01/29 15:46] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Chat file of Group Chat test is over 3M!
[2015/01/29 15:46] Whirly Fizzle: lol
[2015/01/29 15:46] Whirly Fizzle: I blame Tank :P
[2015/01/29 15:46] And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): what funy was watching my chat continue pasting for about 20 seconds after i stoped entering in more text :P
[2015/01/29 15:46] Caleb Linden: oh yeah, here it is again
[2015/01/29 15:46] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Good Job! ThankMaster.
[2015/01/29 15:47] Nal (nalates.urriah): I thought my viewer crash a couple of times... long freeze.
[2015/01/29 15:48] And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): on a slow hard drive, i can see that being an issue
[2015/01/29 15:50] Lucia Nightfire: anyoen seeing me floating?
[2015/01/29 15:50] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): You are floating, Lucia.
[2015/01/29 15:50] Lucia Nightfire: this bug won't happen after the sim has been up an hour
[2015/01/29 15:50] Whirly Fizzle: I see you in your usual sit pose. Laying down hovering
[2015/01/29 15:50] Lucia Nightfire: ok see me standing
[2015/01/29 15:50] Whirly Fizzle: Stood up now
[2015/01/29 15:51] Caleb Linden: huh
[2015/01/29 15:51] Lucia Nightfire: now see me?
[2015/01/29 15:51] Whirly Fizzle: Sit/hover now
[2015/01/29 15:51] Lucia Nightfire: told you
[2015/01/29 15:51] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Now I see you, Lucia.
[2015/01/29 15:51] Lucia Nightfire: I tp to some other sim and my AO sit anim starts playing again
[2015/01/29 15:51] Whirly Fizzle: HUD, server or FS AO?
[2015/01/29 15:52] Lucia Nightfire: it won't do that after the sims have been up for over an hour though
[2015/01/29 15:52] Lucia Nightfire: its my HUD
[2015/01/29 15:52] Caleb Linden: i see you hover lucia
[2015/01/29 15:52] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): I can't see you for some seconds.
[2015/01/29 15:52] Lucia Nightfire: right, Oz, but I shouldn't be
[2015/01/29 15:52] Lucia Nightfire: I stood up
[2015/01/29 15:52] Lucia Nightfire: the anim stopped
[2015/01/29 15:52] Lucia Nightfire: then I tp'd out and my anim stared playing again
[2015/01/29 15:52] Whirly Fizzle: I see it playing a p4 sit animation
[2015/01/29 15:53] Lucia Nightfire: it uses llSetAnimationOverride()
[2015/01/29 15:53] Lucia Nightfire: there is no other change event or timer polling
[2015/01/29 15:53] Whirly Fizzle: Oh, that can bug out on region change
[2015/01/29 15:53] Oz Linden: A repro script and BUG would be most appreciated
[2015/01/29 15:53] Lucia Nightfire: ok, here I go again
[2015/01/29 15:53] Simon Linden: Thanks everyone for the group chat testing, I think this is enough
[2015/01/29 15:54] Lucia Nightfire: see ?
[2015/01/29 15:54] Lucia Nightfire: I'm showing my sit anim again
[2015/01/29 15:54] Caleb Linden: huh, even on nearby chat
[2015/01/29 15:54] Whirly Fizzle: Lucia, is it maybe https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-6814 ?
[2015/01/29 15:55] Lucia Nightfire: looks like it, whirls
[2015/01/29 15:55] Lucia Nightfire: again
[2015/01/29 15:55] Lucia Nightfire: standing
[2015/01/29 15:55] Lucia Nightfire: standing anim
[2015/01/29 15:55] Lucia Nightfire: now I tp
[2015/01/29 15:55] Whirly Fizzle: Ya, thought it was that
[2015/01/29 15:55] Whirly Fizzle: Happens on TP or just dragging yourself across a region while sitting
[2015/01/29 15:55] Lucia Nightfire: now it ain't doing it, lol
[2015/01/29 15:55] Whirly Fizzle: So its filed Oz :P
[2015/01/29 15:56] Oz Linden: Thank you
[2015/01/29 15:56] Nal (nalates.urriah): Thanks Lindens, everyone
[2015/01/29 15:56] Lucia Nightfire: ain't doing it now
[2015/01/29 15:56] Inara Breen: Ciao, Nalates
[2015/01/29 15:56] Caleb Linden: thanks
[2015/01/29 15:56] Nal (nalates.urriah): Bye all
[2015/01/29 15:56] Whirly Fizzle: Ty Lindens
[2015/01/29 15:56] Lucia Nightfire: it stopped doing it close to the end of last UG I displaed the bug
[2015/01/29 15:56] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Thank you, Simon, Caleb and Oz.
[2015/01/29 15:57] Caleb Linden: i see you guys next week!
[2015/01/29 15:57] Inara Breen: Thanks, Caleb, Simon, Oz
[2015/01/29 15:57] Oz Linden: I'm going to go read opensource-dev ... bye
[2015/01/29 15:57] Caleb Linden: thanks for coming