Beta server office hours/Minutes/2018-01-25

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[2018/01/25 15:00]  Mazidox Linden: Ok, it's 3, so as is tradition we'll wait a couple of minutes for people to filter in.
[2018/01/25 15:01]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): how are you guys?
[2018/01/25 15:01]  Einstein Bosch: I'm ok but it very cold in Europe. What about you?
[2018/01/25 15:01]  Nal (nalates.urriah): Good, but I still have to make 3 or 4 attempts to get logged into Aditi.
[2018/01/25 15:01]  Jenna Felton: /me is good, thank you :)
[2018/01/25 15:02]  Mazidox Linden: Nalates, can you elaborate on that?
[2018/01/25 15:02]  Einstein Bosch: I update all my inventory this week using SL support :)
[2018/01/25 15:03]  Einstein Bosch: The idea of changing password not always work.
[2018/01/25 15:03]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): we don't have this mechanism anymore
[2018/01/25 15:03]  Nal (nalates.urriah): I'll log in, rez, and find I am stuck. Can't move, tp, ot chat. I get a 'degraded connection' error message. Never a problem on main grid (4 hops - 12 hops here)
[2018/01/25 15:04]  Nal (nalates.urriah): Tracing route to []
[2018/01/25 15:04]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): would it help to clear  the user_settings folder?
[2018/01/25 15:04]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): at least rename the current files with .bkup (for backup)
[2018/01/25 15:04]  Nal (nalates.urriah): Caleb, for the login problem?
[2018/01/25 15:04]  Einstein Bosch: I do that often :)
[2018/01/25 15:05]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): yeah, Nal
[2018/01/25 15:05]  Nal (nalates.urriah): ? I'll try it after the meeting.
[2018/01/25 15:05]  Whirly Fizzle: Oh that degraded performance error is a weird one.  Try deleting all LM's in your inventory & also delete your favorite LM's.  See if that fixes it.  It fixes it for some people
[2018/01/25 15:05]  Einstein Bosch: Again supprt can make a fresh copy on your SL inventory :)
[2018/01/25 15:05]  Einstein Bosch: *support
[2018/01/25 15:06]  Nal (nalates.urriah): Thx Whirly.
[2018/01/25 15:06]  Mazidox Linden: But you lose everything you made here Einstein!
[2018/01/25 15:06]  Mazidox Linden: Which I suppose for most of you isn't much, but I live here!
[2018/01/25 15:06]  Einstein Bosch: Easy! Pass all to one alt :)
[2018/01/25 15:06]  Mazidox Linden: If I ever got copied over from Agni I'd be a very unhappy can.
[2018/01/25 15:07]  Whirly Fizzle: Here's one example where clearing Lms fixed it
[2018/01/25 15:07]  Einstein Bosch: Welcome Rex
[2018/01/25 15:07]  Mazidox Linden: So, let's get started with our agenda
[2018/01/25 15:07]  Rex Cronon: hi einstein
[2018/01/25 15:08]  Rex Cronon: hi everybody
[2018/01/25 15:08]  Jenna Felton: hello Rex and all who I missed to greet
[2018/01/25 15:08]  Nal (nalates.urriah): Thx Whirly...
[2018/01/25 15:08]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): alright
[2018/01/25 15:09]  Mazidox Linden: This week we promoted a couple of things to RC on Agni including DRTSIM-367 (internal fixes) and a version of the service that handles avatar bakes, built with the new version of our OS.
[2018/01/25 15:09]  Rex Cronon: hi nal
[2018/01/25 15:09]  Nal (nalates.urriah): Hi Rex
[2018/01/25 15:09]  Rex Cronon: hi jenna
[2018/01/25 15:10]  Mazidox Linden: We've also (as I mentioned last week) put a new-OS version of our Email to Object service on Aditi, along with a build of DRTSIM-340.
[2018/01/25 15:12]  Rex Cronon: btw. todays log is appended at end .
[2018/01/25 15:13]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): thank you rex
[2018/01/25 15:13]  Rex Cronon: oh, we is doing "
[2018/01/25 15:13]  Rex Cronon: u r welcome
[2018/01/25 15:13]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): and as always we are trying to look out for more services getting updated and ready for agni push
[2018/01/25 15:13]  Rex Cronon: who is doing*
[2018/01/25 15:14]  Jenna Felton: ohh, sorry Rex
[2018/01/25 15:14]  Jenna Felton: and all who are reading the log
[2018/01/25 15:14]  Rex Cronon: don't worry. lol
[2018/01/25 15:14]  Mazidox Linden: There are logs up from the last 2 meetings on the SBUG wiki page now. All thanks to Caleb!
[2018/01/25 15:14]  Rex Cronon: i thought somebody was spaming:)
[2018/01/25 15:15]  Jenna Felton: i tried to test email here and it seems even object can not send eimail to other one in same region
[2018/01/25 15:15]  Rex Cronon: awsome caleb:)
[2018/01/25 15:15]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): don't thank me :)
[2018/01/25 15:15]  Mazidox Linden: That's not surprising Jenna, objects sending emails is expected to fail on Aditi.
[2018/01/25 15:15]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): i was behind those
[2018/01/25 15:15]  arton Rotaru: obj to obj email works, I just tried last week
[2018/01/25 15:16]  arton Rotaru: but you can't email to an obj from outside
[2018/01/25 15:16]  Mazidox Linden: /me looks as concerned as a spraycan can
[2018/01/25 15:16]  Mazidox Linden: Um
[2018/01/25 15:16]  Rex Cronon: release some pressure mazidox:)
[2018/01/25 15:17]  Whirly Fizzle: I don't think we can test it here.
[2018/01/25 15:17]  Mazidox Linden: You should be able to email objects on Aditi.
[2018/01/25 15:17]  Mazidox Linden: If that's not working, we have a problem.
[2018/01/25 15:17]  Mazidox Linden: I'll put it on my list for tomorrow (this afternoon is already blocked out unfortunately).
[2018/01/25 15:18]  Rex Cronon: if sim resets than email address of obj changes
[2018/01/25 15:18]  Jenna Felton: strange, i have two objects, the one is sending eimail to second one just nearby and the mail target not receives it.
[2018/01/25 15:18]  Jenna Felton: should it work on this sim?
[2018/01/25 15:18]  Mazidox Linden: Jenna, email sending is expected to be broken, email receiving is expected to work. So if you send an email from your mail client/webmail, it should work OK.
[2018/01/25 15:18]  Jenna Felton: ah
[2018/01/25 15:19]  Jenna Felton: but how can i check receiving when i can not send from inside or outside SL?
[2018/01/25 15:19]  Rex Cronon: u can frou outside
[2018/01/25 15:19]  Rex Cronon: from*
[2018/01/25 15:21]  arton Rotaru: [15:20] llEmail v0.1: Object-Name: llEmail v0.1
[2018/01/25 15:21]  arton Rotaru: obj to obj email just worked
[2018/01/25 15:21]  Mazidox Linden: /me jots down more things to check
[2018/01/25 15:21]  Jenna Felton: ok, i could have bug in my script
[2018/01/25 15:22]  mailTarget: whispers: Send the message to to notify me. Pooling once a minute.
[2018/01/25 15:22]  arton Rotaru: remember, llEmail has a 20.0 delay as well
[2018/01/25 15:22]  Rex Cronon: the lindens being present has the magical effect of making obj to obj email  work:)
[2018/01/25 15:22]  Jenna Felton: id correct?
[2018/01/25 15:22]  Jenna Felton: is
[2018/01/25 15:22]  arton Rotaru:
[2018/01/25 15:23]  arton Rotaru: instead of second life
[2018/01/25 15:23]  Jenna Felton: ah
[2018/01/25 15:23]  arton Rotaru:"
[2018/01/25 15:23]  Rex Cronon: it might be good idea to use llownersay
[2018/01/25 15:23]  mailTarget: whispers: Send the message to to notify me. Pooling once a minute.
[2018/01/25 15:24]  mailTarget: whispers: Checking mail box...
[2018/01/25 15:25]  Mazidox Linden: Oh dear. There's a chance this region will restart soon.
[2018/01/25 15:25]  Jenna Felton: stil seem have a bug apparently
[2018/01/25 15:25]  arton Rotaru: see, mine works
[2018/01/25 15:25]  mailTarget: whispers: Checking mail box...
[2018/01/25 15:27]  Jenna Felton: i wanted to whisper it so more people can send mails and see receiving :)
[2018/01/25 15:30]  Jenna Felton: perhaps LSL needs a new function llCreateMailbox() which will return the valid email address and start receiving emails via llGetNextEmail
[2018/01/25 15:31]  Jenna Felton: so you can import the same script from Main to here and it will work without editing
[2018/01/25 15:31]  Einstein Bosch: It is suppose to work from prim to avatar?
[2018/01/25 15:32]  arton Rotaru: no
[2018/01/25 15:32]  Mazidox Linden: Avatars (properly it's agents) can't receive emails, only IMs.
[2018/01/25 15:32]  Whirly Fizzle: I'm totally lost now with what's supposed to work & not work on Aditi
[2018/01/25 15:32]  arton Rotaru: that's llInstantMessage
[2018/01/25 15:32]  Rex Cronon: well, if u give it your rl email address it should work
[2018/01/25 15:32]  Einstein Bosch: I means avatar email, sorry.
[2018/01/25 15:33]  arton Rotaru: on aditi emails to objects from outside sl does not work
[2018/01/25 15:33]  arton Rotaru: but works on Agni
[2018/01/25 15:34]  arton Rotaru: so the updated service can't be tested on aditi
[2018/01/25 15:35]  Einstein Bosch: Not working here. just tested.
[2018/01/25 15:35]  Rex Cronon: btw. i was wondering. sl viewer is now available  only for 64bi? no 32 bit version?
[2018/01/25 15:35]  Jonathan Yap: You can install the Obsolete viewer on 32 bit but it is pretty old
[2018/01/25 15:36]  Mazidox Linden: There's a 64 bit viewer for 64 bit computers. And a 32 bit version if you can't use the 64 bit version.
[2018/01/25 15:36]  arton Rotaru: I doubt they will end the 32 bit
[2018/01/25 15:37]  Rex Cronon: where do u download the 32bit version from?
[2018/01/25 15:37]  Rex Cronon: of the sl viewer
[2018/01/25 15:37]  Mazidox Linden: You can download the latest Official Linden Lab viewer from
[2018/01/25 15:37]  Mazidox Linden: We'll get you the right version.
[2018/01/25 15:38]  arton Rotaru:
[2018/01/25 15:38]  arton Rotaru: there it reads Running a 32 bit system? Download the Windows 32 bit viewer
[2018/01/25 15:38]  Rex Cronon: thank u mazidox
[2018/01/25 15:38]  Rex Cronon: thank u arton
[2018/01/25 15:39]  arton Rotaru: I usually run one of those though
[2018/01/25 15:40]  Rex Cronon: arton. thatfirst link u gave only has the 64bit
[2018/01/25 15:40]  arton Rotaru: no
[2018/01/25 15:41]  arton Rotaru: just read the text which is written there
[2018/01/25 15:41]  Rex Cronon: oh. i didn't see it. is not redered right on my screen
[2018/01/25 15:41]  arton Rotaru: ah
[2018/01/25 15:42]  arton Rotaru: lucia would do "smh"
[2018/01/25 15:42]  arton Rotaru: ^^
[2018/01/25 15:42]  Rex Cronon: lol
[2018/01/25 15:43]  Mazidox Linden: The fact that no restart has happened yet is not helping my pesticide pressure
[2018/01/25 15:44]  mailTarget: whispers: Got a mail:
[2018/01/25 15:44]  mailTarget: whispers: Got a mail:
[2018/01/25 15:44]  arton Rotaru: yay
[2018/01/25 15:44]  Jenna Felton: seems to work
[2018/01/25 15:45]  Rex Cronon: cool:)
[2018/01/25 15:46]  arton Rotaru: are you doing rolling restarts on aditi currently?
[2018/01/25 15:46]  mailTarget: whispers: Got a mail:
[2018/01/25 15:46]  Mazidox Linden: Not for all of it, just some of it.
[2018/01/25 15:46]  Jenna Felton: this was from outside
[2018/01/25 15:46]  Mazidox Linden: I'm going to leave that out of the official log Jenna
[2018/01/25 15:46]  Mazidox Linden: Don't want to give out your email address.
[2018/01/25 15:46]  Jenna Felton: thank you Mazi :)
[2018/01/25 15:46]  Einstein Bosch: :)
[2018/01/25 15:47]  arton Rotaru: to late, it is logged on Rex chat logger already
[2018/01/25 15:47]  Techwolf Lupindo: /me takes notes
[2018/01/25 15:47]  Jenna Felton: true :)
[2018/01/25 15:47]  Techwolf Lupindo: :-D
[2018/01/25 15:47]  Mazidox Linden: I am sure that's fixable.
[2018/01/25 15:49]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): noted
[2018/01/25 15:49]  Jenna Felton: on Aditi it is and here it is,
[2018/01/25 15:49]  Jenna Felton: because i used at main grid and it worked
[2018/01/25 15:49]  arton Rotaru: true, outside email just worked for my object too
[2018/01/25 15:50]  Mazidox Linden: It's
[2018/01/25 15:50]  Jenna Felton: i mean on Agin it is :)
[2018/01/25 15:50]  Mazidox Linden: Oh, yes. ... Right?
[2018/01/25 15:50]  Jenna Felton: agni
[2018/01/25 15:50]  Mazidox Linden: Sorry, like I said, I live on Aditi.
[2018/01/25 15:50]  Jonathan Yap: seems to have a MX record
[2018/01/25 15:51]  Mazidox Linden: Oh, there's the restart.
[2018/01/25 15:51]  Mazidox Linden: Ok, we're going to wrap up in about 5 minutes.
[2018/01/25 15:51]  Mazidox Linden: Anyone have any last things they want to raise?
[2018/01/25 15:52]  Rex Cronon: shineys?
[2018/01/25 15:52]  arton Rotaru: lol
[2018/01/25 15:52]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): a glass
[2018/01/25 15:52]  arton Rotaru: cheers
[2018/01/25 15:52]  Einstein Bosch: Coffee break
[2018/01/25 15:52]  Bugsly Linden: Mmmm Coffee
[2018/01/25 15:52]  Mazidox Linden: Tea!
[2018/01/25 15:52]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): sounds good!
[2018/01/25 15:53]  Nal (nalates.urriah): OK, bye all
[2018/01/25 15:53]  Bugsly Linden: But I want to stay up all night!
[2018/01/25 15:53]  Bugsly Linden: bb all!
[2018/01/25 15:53]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): thanks for coming