Beta server office hours/Minutes/2018-03-22
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[2018/03/22 15:00] arton Rotaru: don't step on my feet [2018/03/22 15:00] Rex Cronon: how r u guys doing? [2018/03/22 15:00] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): doing good [2018/03/22 15:01] Nal (nalates.urriah): Hi Rex, good its raining [2018/03/22 15:01] Rex Cronon: i am stepping on your feet arton? [2018/03/22 15:01] Rex Cronon: hi nal [2018/03/22 15:01] arton Rotaru: lol [2018/03/22 15:01] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): Fantastic. [2018/03/22 15:01] arton Rotaru: no Nal did [2018/03/22 15:02] Rex Cronon: i guess is a new way of saying hi by stepping on peoples toes;) [2018/03/22 15:02] Bugsly Linden: foot hugs [2018/03/22 15:02] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): toes, feet, leg, torso, neck, head [2018/03/22 15:03] Rex Cronon: i should wear some iron clown shoes ;) [2018/03/22 15:04] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): Let's get started then? [2018/03/22 15:04] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): let's give it about 50min and we can start [2018/03/22 15:04] arton Rotaru: lol [2018/03/22 15:04] Rex Cronon: just 50 minutes:) [2018/03/22 15:05] arton Rotaru: hey, go away from my carrots [2018/03/22 15:05] Rex Cronon: loook. whild whirly dropped by:) [2018/03/22 15:05] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): let's get started [2018/03/22 15:05] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): hello everyone [2018/03/22 15:06] arton Rotaru: Gunaaaabend [2018/03/22 15:06] Rex Cronon: a wild* [2018/03/22 15:06] Rex Cronon: hi caleb [2018/03/22 15:06] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): DRTSIM-369 is out on RC [2018/03/22 15:07] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): it had some minor tweaks to the previous DRTSIM-369 from the week before [2018/03/22 15:07] Minuet Voir: Hello everyone [2018/03/22 15:07] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): we are confident that this is going out this coming tuesday [2018/03/22 15:07] Rex Cronon: hi minuet [2018/03/22 15:08] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): Bluesteel has got D-340, internal fixes, and is staying for another round on the RC channel [2018/03/22 15:08] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): and that's all we got [2018/03/22 15:09] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): right right [2018/03/22 15:09] arton Rotaru: you got rid of RTSIM ? [2018/03/22 15:09] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): no other RC going on Magnum and LeTigre [2018/03/22 15:09] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): we still have them but they are bottling up [2018/03/22 15:10] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): none of new ones are ready for testing right now, but we know that devs are working on them [2018/03/22 15:11] Minuet Voir: stand by [2018/03/22 15:12] arton Rotaru: Mazidox is studying the pelican up close it seems [2018/03/22 15:12] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): pelicanese [2018/03/22 15:12] Minuet Voir: How do you know? Is the pelican blushing? [2018/03/22 15:13] arton Rotaru: no, but he is using some binoculars on him [2018/03/22 15:13] Minuet Voir: /me zooms out a little further [2018/03/22 15:13] Rex Cronon: is he regurgitating a fish for mazidox? [2018/03/22 15:13] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): I want to understand in minute detail why the Pelican agrees when it does. [2018/03/22 15:13] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): Very important, you know. [2018/03/22 15:13] Minuet Voir: aha [2018/03/22 15:13] arton Rotaru: lol [2018/03/22 15:14] Rex Cronon: he is like an oracle:) [2018/03/22 15:14] Minuet Voir: Ask pelican about inventory [2018/03/22 15:14] arton Rotaru: oh inventory [2018/03/22 15:14] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): who invented the tory? [2018/03/22 15:14] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): Not something that'll be ready next week, but a dev is looking at messaging during teleports and region crossings, with the hope to make it more reliable and faster. [2018/03/22 15:14] Minuet Voir: I feel like there should be a confessional of sorts here regarding inventory. [2018/03/22 15:14] Bugsly Linden: ^exciting! [2018/03/22 15:15] Minuet Voir: /me kneels, bows her head, and makes an offering of a yummy cupcake [2018/03/22 15:15] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): Oooohhhhhh, cupcakes [2018/03/22 15:16] Minuet Voir: Bless me Aditi for I have acquired new assets since my last visit. It has been 14 days since my last inventory sync. [2018/03/22 15:16] Rex Cronon: simon said on tuesday the he was engrossed in studying sim crossings... [2018/03/22 15:16] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): cupcake is my currency [2018/03/22 15:16] Minuet Voir: Okay, so one cupcake clearly won't do. *goes back to the kitchen* [2018/03/22 15:16] Rex Cronon: sim crossings code* [2018/03/22 15:17] Bugsly Linden: Caleb the cupcake guy [2018/03/22 15:18] arton Rotaru: so, last we we talked about the scripts run % on simulators [2018/03/22 15:18] arton Rotaru: I was very brave and did a few restarts of the region [2018/03/22 15:19] arton Rotaru: and on the second attempt already, I had a new host and scripts run is around 60 to 70 % now. when it was 40 to 50 % before [2018/03/22 15:21] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): huh [2018/03/22 15:21] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): what is the region name? [2018/03/22 15:22] arton Rotaru: I also checked the scripts count on the adjacent regions, which are also homesteads, and these do run a 1000 scripts more than mine [2018/03/22 15:22] arton Rotaru: it's Norman Islands [2018/03/22 15:23] Rex Cronon: if all the sims run on same server, could the server spread the load around? [2018/03/22 15:26] Rex Cronon: . [2018/03/22 15:26] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): ! [2018/03/22 15:26] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): the two neighbors have been up for 9 days [2018/03/22 15:26] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): just side note [2018/03/22 15:28] arton Rotaru: yeah, I think the dry restart when they are 2 weeks up and running is a good thinh [2018/03/22 15:28] Rex Cronon: sometimes it gets so silent that i have to make sure i didn't get disconnected mazidox [2018/03/22 15:28] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): haha [2018/03/22 15:28] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): Running scripts could be as simple as an event handler or as complex as... Something a lot more complex that does active computation :) [2018/03/22 15:28] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): So "Running scripts" may not be an apples to apples comparison. [2018/03/22 15:29] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): EPS probably gets you a bit closer, but it's still only a poor approximation. [2018/03/22 15:29] arton Rotaru: yeah well, like I said, the region used to run in the 90-ish % for years [2018/03/22 15:29] Rex Cronon: i guess somebody made bitcoin lsl script:) [2018/03/22 15:29] arton Rotaru: lol [2018/03/22 15:32] Rex Cronon: AFK............................... [2018/03/22 15:32] Rex Cronon: afk 4 a few minutes [2018/03/22 15:32] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): I would recommend asking the land owner (or doing it yourself, if that's you) to file a support request. [2018/03/22 15:32] Minuet Voir: Is there a Concierge anymore? [2018/03/22 15:32] arton Rotaru: well, it's running quite well still, even at that rate [2018/03/22 15:33] arton Rotaru: so I'm not really complaining, I'm just wondering of the why [2018/03/22 15:34] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): 40% means that your script will still get about 18 chances a second to run, which should be plenty. [2018/03/22 15:34] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): I couldn't say Arton. It's not something we've tinkered with in quite a while, at least as far as I'm aware. [2018/03/22 15:34] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): And I *should* be the can to ask... [2018/03/22 15:35] arton Rotaru: no problem [2018/03/22 15:35] arton Rotaru: actually that restarting the region make it come back on another host, is something I didn't knew. [2018/03/22 15:35] arton Rotaru: IIRC, there was a time when that wasn't the case [2018/03/22 15:36] arton Rotaru: you would end up on the same host regardless [2018/03/22 15:36] arton Rotaru: maybe that changed with having only one datacenter now [2018/03/22 15:37] arton Rotaru: there was a so called balancing of the grid at some point [2018/03/22 15:37] arton Rotaru: to help with region crossings [2018/03/22 15:37] Whirly Fizzle: I thought there stll was [2018/03/22 15:38] arton Rotaru: it's only one datacenter now, so balacening isn't necessary anymore [2018/03/22 15:38] arton Rotaru: at least not to help with region crossings [2018/03/22 15:38] Whirly Fizzle: Because it broke a while ago (last years fantasy fair) [2018/03/22 15:38] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): Wait, what'd I break now? :) [2018/03/22 15:39] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): it wasn't me [2018/03/22 15:40] arton Rotaru: there could be some load balancing in place still indeed [2018/03/22 15:40] arton Rotaru: I think something like that was announced a few years ago [2018/03/22 15:41] arton Rotaru: to have busy regions run better [2018/03/22 15:41] arton Rotaru: or something like that [2018/03/22 15:42] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): I don't know anything about that, to be honest. But I try not to dive too deeply into the world of the Ops, for that way lies madness. [2018/03/22 15:43] Minuet Voir: [15:14:37] Mazidox Linden: Not something that'll be ready next week, but a dev is looking at messaging during teleports and region crossings, with the hope to make it more reliable and faster. [2018/03/22 15:43] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): I didn't promise anything! [2018/03/22 15:43] Minuet Voir: Ya know, I've personally never viewed this as much of a priority as I have, say keeping your attachments. [2018/03/22 15:44] Minuet Voir: Do you guys have any part in solving that long standing bug? [2018/03/22 15:44] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): As I understand it, that's the "Reliable" part Minuet. Could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm not. [2018/03/22 15:44] arton Rotaru: yeah, attachments still get lost [2018/03/22 15:45] arton Rotaru: or detached, not actually losz [2018/03/22 15:45] Minuet Voir: Yeah, that's fine. I get that. I just don't care much. lol [2018/03/22 15:45] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): i was gonna say [2018/03/22 15:45] arton Rotaru: lost even [2018/03/22 15:45] Minuet Voir: Compared to other things. [2018/03/22 15:45] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): Sorry, run that by me one more time Minuet? [2018/03/22 15:46] Minuet Voir: You mentioned someone is working of more reliable messaging during regions crossings. So I was just wondering if you guys were also involved in any way with the bug of attachments detaching during regions crossings. [2018/03/22 15:46] Minuet Voir: Which desperately needs a server side fix. [2018/03/22 15:46] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): oh [2018/03/22 15:47] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): And my response is that to my understanding, making region crossings more reliable should decrease the detachment of attachments during region crossings. [2018/03/22 15:47] Minuet Voir: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-6925 and https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-202686 [2018/03/22 15:48] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): We will know more once it's handed off to us [2018/03/22 15:48] Minuet Voir: ahhh okay [2018/03/22 15:48] Minuet Voir: I've actually been doing well with the FS fixes [2018/03/22 15:49] arton Rotaru: I still arrive naked when I get home [2018/03/22 15:49] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): lol [2018/03/22 15:49] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): on purpose? [2018/03/22 15:49] arton Rotaru: lol, no I use the LL viewer [2018/03/22 15:49] Minuet Voir: like reliably at home? [2018/03/22 15:50] Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): looking for keys and noticing there is no pocket to reach the keys [2018/03/22 15:50] Minuet Voir: lol [2018/03/22 15:50] arton Rotaru: when I do some vehicle trips on the mainland [2018/03/22 15:50] arton Rotaru: lol [2018/03/22 15:50] arton Rotaru: something like that [2018/03/22 15:50] arton Rotaru: when I finally crash at a bad crossing [2018/03/22 15:50] Minuet Voir: You lock your SL home Caleb? [2018/03/22 15:50] arton Rotaru: and TP home [2018/03/22 15:50] arton Rotaru: theres plenty of satuff missing on me [2018/03/22 15:51] Minuet Voir: That's so cute! [2018/03/22 15:51] Rex Cronon: cupcake commander? haha:) [2018/03/22 15:51] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): I lock my home! [2018/03/22 15:51] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): Not even my alts get in. [2018/03/22 15:51] Bugsly Linden: I cant even get in his home! [2018/03/22 15:51] arton Rotaru: well, just last week I stood in my SL house, and some random guy, 2 years old tried to get in [2018/03/22 15:51] Minuet Voir: Something tells me you're talking about a different sort of lock. [2018/03/22 15:51] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): Before rampant speculation gets out of hand... [2018/03/22 15:52] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): Yes, Bugsly is my alt. :P [2018/03/22 15:52] arton Rotaru: rattled at the doors [2018/03/22 15:52] Rex Cronon: u sit on a prim and do a little offset, and usually u can get into any house:) [2018/03/22 15:52] Minuet Voir: ahahahaha [2018/03/22 15:52] arton Rotaru: and then said, open the door ^^ [2018/03/22 15:52] Bugsly Linden: No I'm not! [2018/03/22 15:52] Einstein Bosch: Hello all [2018/03/22 15:52] Rex Cronon: hi einstein [2018/03/22 15:52] arton Rotaru: so door loks still work in SL [2018/03/22 15:52] arton Rotaru: locks even [2018/03/22 15:53] Minuet Voir: lol bunneh [2018/03/22 15:53] Rex Cronon: i think if u hit doors hard enough u can get through them:) [2018/03/22 15:53] Minuet Voir: PEBCAK is alive and well in SL [2018/03/22 15:53] arton Rotaru: yeah [2018/03/22 15:53] Minuet Voir: exactly Rex [2018/03/22 15:53] Rex Cronon: just like in rl:) [2018/03/22 15:54] arton Rotaru: he didn't said please open the door, though [2018/03/22 15:54] Einstein Bosch: Rusty? :) [2018/03/22 15:54] Nal (nalates.urriah): Mt double click teleports, I cam inside and click-click... [2018/03/22 15:54] Minuet Voir: That's just wrong. [2018/03/22 15:54] arton Rotaru: so I just kicked him off the region [2018/03/22 15:54] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): "Open the pod bay doors HAL" [2018/03/22 15:54] Minuet Voir: rawrrrrrrrr [2018/03/22 15:54] Minuet Voir: People have no fucking manners these days. [2018/03/22 15:54] arton Rotaru: if you are moving fast enough you get through any prim [2018/03/22 15:55] Nal (nalates.urriah): I love EJECT, it should be in big red bold letters... [2018/03/22 15:55] Minuet Voir: Some of the messages could def be more entertaining and amusing. [2018/03/22 15:55] Rex Cronon: as long as is not a XXX sim, people walking in your bedroom shouldn't be a problem:) [2018/03/22 15:56] Minuet Voir: huh? [2018/03/22 15:56] Einstein Bosch: :) [2018/03/22 15:56] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): It's just impolite though. [2018/03/22 15:56] arton Rotaru: yeah [2018/03/22 15:56] arton Rotaru: at least they could ask beforehand [2018/03/22 15:56] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): So what did everyone think of the recent blog post? :) [2018/03/22 15:56] Nal (nalates.urriah): AWESOME... [2018/03/22 15:56] Minuet Voir: Fantastic! [2018/03/22 15:56] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): Well, the Pelican approves of it at least... [2018/03/22 15:57] arton Rotaru: to be honest, I havn't read it all yet [2018/03/22 15:57] Minuet Voir: I derailed content group about Last Names. I'm so thrilled about that. [2018/03/22 15:57] Einstein Bosch: Will see later i was very late [2018/03/22 15:57] Whirly Fizzle: No mirrors *sniffle* [2018/03/22 15:57] arton Rotaru: i don't know I'm that thrilled [2018/03/22 15:57] Minuet Voir: Might be saving that for the Silver Anniversary [2018/03/22 15:57] Rex Cronon: what was your last blog post about mazidox? [2018/03/22 15:57] Nal (nalates.urriah): Oz siad a lot about names and how that is going to work. Its just gonna be a hile [2018/03/22 15:58] Nal (nalates.urriah): awhile [2018/03/22 15:58] Minuet Voir: later this year... [2018/03/22 15:58] Minuet Voir: I ordered the name Bunneh already [2018/03/22 15:58] arton Rotaru: how will I be able to keep track on my friendlist, even there are all new unnkown names to me [2018/03/22 15:58] Einstein Bosch: SL community? [2018/03/22 15:59] Minuet Voir: https://community.secondlife.com/blogs/entry/2328-happy-15th-birthday-second-life-fifteen-reasons-to-celebrate/ [2018/03/22 15:59] Cupcake Commander (caleb.linden): The names are in high demand i am sensing [2018/03/22 15:59] Nal (nalates.urriah): Oh... that could be a problem. [2018/03/22 15:59] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): *My* last blog post was The Return of the Living Objects: A Pre-Halloween Horror Story at https://community.secondlife.com/blogs/entry/2248-the-return-of-the-living-objects-a-pre-halloween-horror-story/ [2018/03/22 15:59] Mazibox (mazidox.linden): But Minuet linked the most recent blog post [2018/03/22 15:59] Whirly Fizzle: Well, Oz did say the cost will be high enough to discourage changing name often [2018/03/22 15:59] Einstein Bosch: Thanks you [2018/03/22 15:59] Minuet Voir: oopsie