Bug triage/2008-09-08/Transcript

Agenda

• [12:01] Bridie Linden: waves
• [12:01] Squirrel Wood: H'lo!
• [12:02] Bridie Linden: brb
• [12:02] Harleen Gretzky: Hi Nya
• [12:02] Squirrel Wood: don't mind my DDR announcer ^^
• [12:02] Harleen Gretzky: Hi Bridie
• [12:02] Nya Linden: heh.. hallo.
• [12:02] Harleen Gretzky: HI Ellla
• [12:03] Bridie Linden: Back, hullo!
• [12:03] Bridie Linden: Is today a holiday?
• [12:03] Squirrel Wood: Not that I am aware
• [12:04] Nya Linden: super empty today!
• [12:04] Bridie Linden: Yes, light (but important) crowd
• [12:04] Nya Linden: perhaps people heard that aric was not going to make it...
• [12:04] Nya Linden: and my alliterations are just not up to snuff.
• [12:04] Bridie Linden: We'll never know, not now...
• [12:05] Nya Linden: Well.. let's get started then! [1]
• [12:05] Bridie Linden: (dance)
• [12:05] Nya Linden: (dance)
• [12:05] Nya Linden: first off: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2967
• [12:06] Bridie Linden: is reading
• [12:07] Squirrel Wood: I would assume that mono script idle time cannot be directly compared to lsl2 idle time
• [12:08] Bridie Linden: Let's ping Vektor about this one
• [12:08] Bridie Linden: Maybe he can have a look and compare
• [12:08] Nya Linden: sure.. do we want to import?
• [12:08] Bridie Linden: Sure, will do
• [12:09] Nya Linden: ookay. next on our list is https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1402
• [12:10] Squirrel Wood: that one can almost be considered ancient...
• [12:10] Bridie Linden: nods
• [12:10] Nya Linden: is this the multiple monitors issue?
• [12:10] Squirrel Wood: I can only suggest to update the video card drivers
• [12:11] Squirrel Wood: or downgrade. whichever fixes it
• [12:11] Bridie Linden: And try 1.21 RC...
• [12:11] Bridie Linden: I don't think this is the double monitors one
• [12:11] Bridie Linden: I'll comment and mark w/last triaged?
• [12:12] Squirrel Wood: doesn't hurt to ask about dual monitor
• [12:12] Nya Linden: sounds good.
• [12:12] Bridie Linden: Will do
• [12:12] Nya Linden: next! https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1402
• [12:13] Squirrel Wood: that's the same one ^^
• [12:13] Nya Linden: heh. https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2981
• [12:13] Nya Linden: sorry.. was reading.. didn't notice my copy and paste wasn't working quite right.
• [12:13] Nya Linden: I mean.. it worked for me!
• [12:15] Nya Linden: is this another one we import and send to Vek to investigate?
• [12:15] Squirrel Wood: Might be the best thing to do
• [12:16] Harleen Gretzky: Could be related to https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2908 also
• [12:16] Nya Linden: do we have enough info to repro? or should we ask for a specific script?
• [12:16] Bridie Linden: is looking @ related issue
• [12:16] Squirrel Wood: the script may help
• [12:17] Bridie Linden: We're pushing an update to the Preview Grid today...
• [12:18] Bridie Linden: Maybe we could see if latest fixes help
• [12:18] Nya Linden: let's link to svc-2908, ask if latest fixes help and if not an example of a script that causes the problem.
• [12:18] Bridie Linden: I'll comment
• [12:18] Nya Linden: and with that, we move to https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-5701
• [12:19] McCabe Maxsted: bunch of scattered reports of that
• [12:19] McCabe Maxsted: one specifically about nvidia
• [12:20] Nya Linden: weird.. doesn't repro for me in 1.20..
• [12:21] Ellla McMahon: last reporter Case Wrangler - 12/Jun/08 12:24 AM needs an update to drivers - OpenGL is old
• [12:21] Nya Linden: but perhaps it's windows only?
• [12:21] Bridie Linden: relates to VWR-5749 or dupe?
• [12:21] Ellla McMahon: the reporter for 1.20RC hasn't left computer details
• [12:21] McCabe Maxsted: no, not windows only
• [12:22] Nya Linden: I think it's a dup bridie and 5749 has already been imported.
• [12:22] Bridie Linden: I'll resolve as such then
• [12:22] Nya Linden: McCabe - do you see this issue?
• [12:22] McCabe Maxsted: yeah, like I've said, i've seen a bunch of these
• [12:23] McCabe Maxsted: oh you mean inworld
• [12:23] McCabe Maxsted: haha no
• [12:23] McCabe Maxsted: not me
• [12:23] McCabe Maxsted: but it's not windows only
• [12:23] Nya Linden: heh.
• [12:23] Nya Linden: okay. was wondering if it was just switching modes or full-screen or what.
• [12:23] Nya Linden: let's go with dup for now and if the reporter thinks it's separate, they can reopen?
• [12:23] Harleen Gretzky: I have Windows and nVidia and do not have the issue
• [12:24] Nya Linden: I think it's a full-screen problem, personally.
• [12:24] Nya Linden: okay..... and on to https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-5949
• [12:24] Squirrel Wood: no issue here either with this
• [12:25] Nya Linden: heh.. at least *some* people can search. :)
• [12:25] Squirrel Wood: Last Triaged: 17/Aug/08 03:28 PM
• [12:26] Squirrel Wood: crash logs were requested
• [12:26] Fay Tal: i get the issue in VWR-5949 sometimes ^_^
• [12:26] McCabe Maxsted: dupe of https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3943?
• [12:27] Squirrel Wood: latest rc works fine for me. no memory leaking evident on my system
• [12:27] Squirrel Wood: and I have SL under close surveilance...
• [12:28] Nya Linden: there were a bunch of memory fixes that went into 1.21. Perhaps we should ask them to try latest RC and see if that fixes the issue?
• [12:28] Bridie Linden: nods
• [12:28] Squirrel Wood: definitely
• [12:28] Nya Linden: woot!
• [12:28] Nya Linden: has no idea why she wooted.
• [12:28] Fay Tal: :P
• [12:28] Nya Linden: and on that woot.. https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2710
• [12:28] McCabe Maxsted: does one need a reason?
• [12:29] Nya Linden: heh. I've just started typing that recently.. I still need to figure out who I picked it up from.. and growl at them.
• [12:29] Squirrel Wood: woot!
• [12:29] Squirrel Wood: :p
• [12:29] Nya Linden: hahaha.
• [12:30] Squirrel Wood: Alexa Linden - 26/Aug/08 11:00 AM
• Thank you all for the progress here. In reference to Danica's post, can someone please post here when the submission has been updated? Thank you!
• [12:30] Nya Linden: so.. on turkish, I think we're waiting for a response from Vixen. Last triaged?
• [12:30] Bridie Linden: w00t
• [12:30] Fay Tal: BugWoot :P
• [12:30] Nya Linden: got woot?
• [12:30] Squirrel Wood: Wootbeew?
• [12:30] McCabe Maxsted: is waiting for someone to post a greek translation in opposition
• [12:30] Squirrel Wood: I want to see a Klingon translation :p
• [12:31] Nya Linden: hah. I see it happening.
• [12:31] Nya Linden: okay. I vote turkish we just set as last triaged. going once?
• [12:31] Nya Linden: twice?
• [12:31] Bridie Linden: done
• [12:31] Nya Linden: sold to the Linden in dreads.
• [12:31] Nya Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8436
• [12:32] Squirrel Wood: I would assume that linux users are more familiar using keyboard shortcuts than clicking mouse buttons...
• [12:32] Nya Linden: except for that middle-click thing. That's super useful.
• [12:33] McCabe Maxsted: supporting native functionality is a good thing; love patches like these
• [12:34] Nya Linden: yeah. shall we import? Bridie?
• [12:34] Nya Linden: maybe send to RX?
• [12:35] Bridie Linden: ok
• [12:35] Nya Linden: et voila: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2999
• [12:36] Squirrel Wood: monomonomono
• [12:36] Nya Linden: I think we need more info on this one..
• [12:36] Nya Linden: like can it be reproduced and can we get the object.
• [12:36] Squirrel Wood: mayhaps the player can drop the script on vector so he can have a look at it ?
• [12:37] Harleen Gretzky: Maybe they can supply the script to a Linden
• [12:37] Bridie Linden: nods
• [12:37] Nya Linden: exactly. Bridie - how do we usually do this? ask them to give to alexa?
• [12:37] Nya Linden: or do we warn vek about it and suggest they drop it to him?
• [12:37] Bridie Linden: Often, Vektor's aware and ahead of us :)
• [12:37] Nya Linden: hah.
• [12:37] Nya Linden: okay.
• [12:38] Nya Linden: NMI then. and a ping to Vek. :)
• [12:38] Bridie Linden: I'll ask for more info
• [12:38] Nya Linden: O.o mindreader!
• [12:38] Squirrel Wood: lots of these errors need to be made more human readable :p
• [12:38] Squirrel Wood: like: Fool! U fail at writing commands properly! Type after me: llWhateverCommand ^^
• [12:38] Nya Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2996
• [12:38] Nya Linden: hahaha..
• [12:39] Nya Linden: don't you mean "u r teh suck at scriptz"
• [12:39] Nya Linden:  ?
• [12:39] Nya Linden: talks like this all day.
• [12:39] Nya Linden: blames bridie for lolcatz speak.
• [12:39] Squirrel Wood: there's so many error messages I'm sure there will be room for that one too ^^
• [12:40] Nya Linden: ANYWAY... back to 2996
• [12:40] Squirrel Wood: How dare you forget typing a } in line 31232312!
• [12:40] Nya Linden: heh. Bridie actually lol'd. I heard her.
• [12:41] Bridie Linden: grins
• [12:41] Bridie Linden: guilty as charged
• [12:41] Bridie Linden: i lol'd
• [12:41] Harleen Gretzky: This was first noticed in https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-841 but that whole issue was closed as Cannot Reproduce without fixing this
• [12:42] Nya Linden: hm.
• [12:42] Squirrel Wood: that was pre-havok 4
• [12:42] Bridie Linden: wow, long thread
• [12:43] Bridie Linden: (in other issue)
• [12:43] Bridie Linden: Shall we import and send to Andrew + Kelly?
• [12:43] Nya Linden: this has a pretty good repro case on it.. I think we should import and maybe link?
• [12:43] Nya Linden: yes.
• [12:43] Bridie Linden: GMTA
• [12:43] Bridie Linden: again
• [12:43] Nya Linden: srsly.
• [12:43] McCabe Maxsted: reading the comments, kelly asked for more info
• [12:43] Squirrel Wood: repro = woot!
• [12:44] Nya Linden: I think this should be a good bit of info for Kelly.. we'll give a heads up.
• [12:44] Nya Linden: and on to https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-552 !
• [12:45] McCabe Maxsted: likes one click repros
• [12:46] Bridie Linden: +1
• [12:46] Nya Linden: srsly.
• [12:46] Bridie Linden: Import and link to other issue?
• [12:47] Nya Linden: yep.
• [12:47] Nya Linden: web triage.
• [12:47] Bridie Linden: salutes nya
• [12:47] Nya Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-6740
• [12:48] Squirrel Wood: that one is quite annoying
• [12:48] Nya Linden: weird!
• [12:48] Nya Linden: import.
• [12:48] Wade Welles: hmm
• [12:48] Wade Welles: (Aimee here btw :)
• [12:49] Nya Linden: hey aimee!
• [12:49] Squirrel Wood: I believe it is because SL has direct support for the device while other applications access it via the installed drivers?
• [12:49] Wade Welles: multitasking, my body is elsewhere :D
• [12:49] Harleen Gretzky: Watch Sliders?
• [12:49] McCabe Maxsted: waves
• [12:49] Wade Welles: :D
• [12:49] Bridie Linden: I think we've been collecting Space Nav issues under the meta issue...
• [12:49] Wade Welles: don't see that on the Mac
• [12:50] Squirrel Wood: might be a winbugs issue
• [12:50] Bridie Linden: Wade, care to add comment?
• [12:50] Wade Welles: yeah, the SN driver is quite different on diff platforms
• [12:51] Bridie Linden: I'll mark w/last triaged date
• [12:51] Nya Linden: sounds good.
• [12:51] Nya Linden: bringing us to: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-1684
• [12:52] Bridie Linden: From Feb...
• [12:52] Nya Linden: retry! 1.21
• [12:52] Squirrel Wood: bounds check error is understandable as H4 handles things slightly different
• [12:52] Bridie Linden: I'll ask if it's still happening...
• [12:53] Nya Linden: and with leaps and bounds... https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-1684
• [12:54] Nya Linden: or grabs.
• [12:54] Bridie Linden: same one?
• [12:54] Nya Linden: pfft. https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-7157
• [12:54] Bridie Linden: Nya's suffering from lack of lunch...
• [12:54] Nya Linden: apparently, copy / paste doesn't work if it hasn't finished loading..
• [12:54] Nya Linden: or if I haven't eaten.
• [12:55] Object: Hello,: Avatar!
• [12:55] Squirrel Wood: you need to debug that issue by eating. lunch for example ^^
• [12:55] Nya Linden: I'm sending out the minions soon.. to bring me vitals.
• [12:56] Squirrel Wood: Affects Version/s: 1.19.1.4
• ?
• [12:56] Bridie Linden: Yea, can't repro
• [12:56] Squirrel Wood: afaik that one does not support sending the required data at all
• [12:56] Nya Linden: NMI - does it happen in 1.21?
• [12:57] Squirrel Wood: Ut oh! The end of the our has dared to sneak up on us :(
• [12:57] Bridie Linden: Indeed!
• [12:57] Nya Linden: eek! one more?
• [12:58] Nya Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8635
• [12:58] Nya Linden: I am, I am.. crazy.
• [12:59] Squirrel Wood: humm
• [12:59] Squirrel Wood: is a system message really neccessary when you already clicked on decline ?
• [13:00] Multi Gadget: v1.54.2 by Timeless Prototype
• [13:00] Squirrel Wood: Dear sir or madam! We regret having to inform you that due to your selfish clicking on the decline button, you ....
• [13:00] Wade Welles: I suppose it depends what you're doing with the chat log?
• [13:00] Bridie Linden: Yeah...
• [13:00] Squirrel Wood: ...forfeit membership of this great, fantastic group!
• [13:00] Wade Welles: handy to have it there if you're doing an abuse report or something
• [13:00] McCabe Maxsted: you get a message on accept
• [13:01] Nya Linden: well.. we show pretty much everything else in the chat log.. maybe import to RX and ask about consistency?
• [13:01] Bridie Linden: well, we can import and ask internally...
• [13:01] Bridie Linden: GMTA
• [13:01] Nya Linden: heh.
• [13:01] Bridie Linden: nods
• [13:01] Nya Linden: yeah. I'd like to make sure it was a decision, not a bug. :)
• [13:01] Bridie Linden: yup