User:Andrew Linden/Office Hours/2008 11 13
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Transcript of Andrew Linden's office hours:
[17:05] | Simon Linden: | Andrew not here? Lemme bug him.. |
[17:05] | Sindy Tsure: | and andrew.. hi hi |
[17:05] | Kitto Flora: | Hello Andrew |
[17:05] | Sindy Tsure: | hi arawn |
[17:05] | Siobhan McCallen: | and there's andrew |
[17:06] | Obi Woebegone gave you Physics questions of a general nature. | |
[17:06] | Arawn Spitteler doesn't dare ask Sindy about Sheep: Hi, all | |
[17:06] | Rex Cronon: | hellow |
[17:06] | Sindy Tsure: | lol.. i detached it :P |
[17:06] | Andrew Linden: | Hey everyody. |
[17:07] | Sheet Spotter: | G'day eh! |
[17:07] | Andrew Linden: | The meeting has started already, right? |
[17:07] | Ellla McMahon: | hello :) |
[17:07] | Siobhan McCallen: | hi sheet |
[17:07] | Siobhan McCallen: | hi ella |
[17:07] | Slug Pet: | Touch me to bring up a menu |
[17:07] | Siobhan McCallen: | just three sheep to the wind so far, andrew |
[17:07] | Sindy Tsure: | lol@kitto |
[17:07] | range: Range set to: 4.000000 | |
[17:08] | range: Range set to: 3.000000 | |
[17:08] | range: Range set to: 2.000000 | |
[17:08] | User not online - inventory has been saved. | |
[17:08] | Slug Pet: | Give me some sugar Rex Cronon :) |
[17:08] | User not online - inventory has been saved. | |
[17:08] | Rex Cronon: | sorry only salt left |
[17:09] | Kitto Flora: | The maker wonders why these dont sell |
[17:09] | Maggie Darwin: | No battery? |
[17:09] | Siobhan McCallen: | is it a neptunian slug? them's good eatin' |
[17:09] | Kitto Flora: | No idea |
[17:09] | Sindy Tsure: | they're good with a little salt.. |
[17:09] | Arawn Spitteler: | Is there any reason they'd sell anyway but slowly? |
[17:09] | Andrew Linden: | alright, the only bit of news I've got is that server-1.25 will be deployed to some small subset of the grid tonight |
[17:09] | Slug Pet: | I love you Rex Cronon :) |
[17:09] | Siobhan McCallen: | they're freelance slugs |
[17:10] | Andrew Linden: | probably 100 or 500 regions, not sure which |
[17:10] | Sheet Spotter: | *** YAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYY *** |
[17:10] | Andrew Linden: | they'll sit until next week |
[17:10] | Andrew Linden: | and then the deploy will continue |
[17:10] | Sindy Tsure w00ts | |
[17:10] | Kitto Flora: | And no more bouncy camera? |
[17:10] | Siobhan McCallen: | can't wait! |
[17:11] | Sheet Spotter: | Are there public release notes for server releases? |
[17:11] | Siobhan McCallen: | looks fixed on beta grid |
[17:11] | Maggie Darwin: | Sheet: Yes. |
[17:11] | Sindy Tsure: | start here, sheet: http://status.secondlifegrid.net/2008/11/11/post312/ |
[17:11] | Sofia Westwick: | Thanks Andrew |
[17:11] | Sindy Tsure: | hi sofia |
[17:11] | Sofia Westwick: | Hi Sindy |
[17:12] | Sindy Tsure: | heh |
[17:12] | Andrew Linden: | I've been trying to track down a permissions bug for the past few days |
[17:12] | Sofia Westwick: | wow i can't see anyone |
[17:12] | Andrew Linden: | I think i've got a fix, but have some testing that remains. |
[17:12] | Siobhan McCallen: | Simon...thank you. Looks like the fix you did for SVC-476 is working. I checked it today. |
[17:12] | Sindy Tsure: | ew.. security thing or just a general bug, andrew? |
[17:13] | Simon Linden: | Great, glad to hear it's OK |
[17:13] | Andrew Linden: | It is a corner-case permissions problem where objects may be left modifiable when they are not supposed to be. |
[17:13] | Andrew Linden: | Not a big copy exploit. |
[17:13] | Sindy Tsure nods | |
[17:14] | Simon Linden: | I've looked a bit at the follow-on bug SVC-3187 but that one is ugly; I haven't figured it out yet |
[17:14] | Andrew Linden: | otherwise, I don't have much news. |
[17:15] | Siobhan McCallen: | I talked to Prospero and Vektor a while ago...SVC-2133 looks like it got missed |
[17:15] | Siobhan McCallen: | so Vek's going to watch it |
[17:15] | Siobhan McCallen: | Prospero reopened it internally |
[17:15] | Arawn Spitteler: | SVC-2931, is there a reason that 54 meters is considered standard link limit for Avatars? |
[17:16] | Sindy Tsure: | after 1.25 finally gets out, anything big planned for 1.26 or is it mostly bug fixes in the near future? |
[17:16] | Siobhan McCallen: | but it's okay if it hangs until 1.26 |
[17:16] | Siobhan McCallen: | or a point release if the code's done |
[17:17] | Andrew Linden: | Hrm... SVC-2133 needs to be fixed |
[17:17] | Sheet Spotter: | The release notes for server 1.25 state SVC-3207 is fixed. I believe it also fixes the original SVC-3017. |
[17:17] | Andrew Linden: | I think there may be a server-1.25-1 patch release |
[17:18] | Andrew Linden: | if I actually fix a permissions bug it would go into the .1 patch |
[17:18] | Siobhan McCallen: | damn.got the wrong number |
[17:18] | Siobhan McCallen: | 2133 isn't the one I meant |
[17:18] | Sindy Tsure: | too late! you only get one.. next! |
[17:18] | Siobhan McCallen: | nuts. |
[17:18] | Andrew Linden: | otherwise... 1.26 pick up whatever has been merged in already. Not sure what is in there right now... not much of what I've done. |
[17:18] | Siobhan McCallen: | 2133 IS the one I meant...damn numbers are confuzzling me |
[17:19] | Andrew Linden: | We've got a main-server branch that should go into the QA pipeline in the hopes that it could get into 1.26 |
[17:19] | Simon Linden: | There are a few more minor speed-ups that should make it into 1.26 |
[17:19] | Kitto Flora: | Speed ups in what, Simon? |
[17:19] | Sindy Tsure: | sims! |
[17:20] | Simon Linden: | The XML parser again ... 1.26 should be almost 2x as fast parsing as 1.23 |
[17:20] | Sindy Tsure: | wow! |
[17:20] | Simon Linden: | Hopefully that will make rezzing, TP and region crossing a little better |
[17:20] | Siobhan McCallen: | Karen says she HAS the code for 2133, and it's been hanging fire since before 1.22. Prospero and Vek think it just got lost |
[17:20] | Kitto Flora: | Thats good |
[17:20] | Andrew Linden: | Karen who? |
[17:21] | Siobhan McCallen: | sorry, Kelly |
[17:21] | Siobhan McCallen: | not looking at the window |
[17:21] | Siobhan McCallen: | bleh. got a headache the size of rhode island |
[17:21] | Andrew Linden: | Oh hrm... kelly is on an extended vacation. |
[17:21] | Maggie Darwin: | "I do not know what simulator version this change will be in, but probably not this next one (1.22)." --Kelly back in May |
[17:21] | Siobhan McCallen: | might be why it hasn't been applied |
[17:21] | Andrew Linden: | Did they say they had fixed it already and checked it into some branch? |
[17:22] | Siobhan McCallen: | vek said he's going to personally watch over it |
[17:22] | Simon Linden: | The web page says it went in Havok4-6, which was merged a long time ago |
[17:22] | Siobhan McCallen: | I gave him an example product that's affected |
[17:22] | Siobhan McCallen: | it's still broken as of yesterday on 1.25 |
[17:22] | Simon Linden: | So it sounds like that didn't really fix it |
[17:22] | Andrew Linden: | oh I see... fix pending, and assigned to Kelly |
[17:22] | Andrew Linden: | so, it probably made its way into some branch |
[17:22] | Andrew Linden: | the question is just which one |
[17:22] | Simon Linden: | I'll see if I can dig into our internal virtual paperwork... |
[17:23] | Maggie Darwin: | Kelly *describes* a fix, doesn't say it was ever actually *written* |
[17:23] | Simon Linden: | yeah, but it's marked "fix pending" and mentions an internal branch. That shouldn't happen unless he submitted some code |
[17:24] | Latif Khalifa: | the status is set at fix-pending, that usually happens when there is actual code :) |
[17:24] | Maggie Darwin: | Yeah, you can;t say where you comitted it unless you comitted something |
[17:24] | Arawn Spitteler: | What causes such extended leaves? |
[17:25] | Andrew Linden: | the comments in SVC-2133 are very old |
[17:25] | Sindy Tsure: | changed to fix-pending may-8th |
[17:25] | Andrew Linden: | so I would expect the fix to have propagated into the deploy by now |
[17:25] | Andrew Linden: | if it is still broken then we should probably re-open the bug |
[17:25] | Siobhan McCallen: | prospero said it was QAR-490, internal pJira was DEV-14375 |
[17:25] | Maggie Darwin: | Maybe the fix didn't actually fix it? |
[17:25] | Siobhan McCallen: | he reopened the interla |
[17:26] | Siobhan McCallen: | internal |
[17:26] | Simon Linden: | Our internal bug was re-opened today, but it's assigned to Kelly, so it's sitting for now |
[17:26] | Sindy Tsure: | the paperwork still goes thru, even if the problem doesn't go away |
[17:26] | Andrew Linden: | ah, DEV-14375 is "reopened" |
[17:26] | Maggie Darwin: | "For what it's worth, this bug has become worse in the last server patch." says Cheshyr |
[17:26] | Andrew Linden: | somebody reopen SVC-2311 please |
[17:27] | Siobhan McCallen: | fix pending is still open |
[17:27] | Siobhan McCallen: | have to close it first, right? |
[17:27] | Maggie Darwin: | It's now "reopened" |
[17:27] | Andrew Linden: | thanks Maggie |
[17:28] | Maggie Darwin: | JIRA is so whack in workflow |
[17:28] | Siobhan McCallen: | i didn't even see where to do that :/ |
[17:28] | Andrew Linden: | Yeah, it isn't perfect |
[17:28] | Siobhan McCallen: | argh |
[17:28] | Andrew Linden: | but it is customizable in theory |
[17:29] | Maggie Darwin: | We use Bugzilla wheer I work, but everybody does their own workflows....bug trackers have always been that way |
[17:29] | Andrew Linden: | and we have indeed customized our internal and external jira |
[17:29] | Andrew Linden: | but, as I understand it... the customizations are not easy |
[17:29] | Maggie Darwin: | We'll see what happens, Prok Neva has his own little WEB- JIRA to cuddeel now |
[17:29] | Simon Linden: | Andrew - I added the code change # to our internal bug. There may be more than one thing going on here |
[17:29] | Maggie Darwin: | "must be closed by reporter" |
[17:30] | Maggie Darwin: | Well, JIRA is written in Java, you C++ guys may find it tricky. |
[17:30] | Andrew Linden: | alright thanks Simon. |
[17:30] | Maggie Darwin: | Or it may just be crap |
[17:31] | Rex Cronon: | how is jira written in java? |
[17:31] | Maggie Darwin: | Badly, from the sound of it |
[17:31] | Sindy Tsure: | lol |
[17:31] | Latif Khalifa: | haha |
[17:31] | Andrew Linden: | I haven't actually looked at the jira code (no time) |
[17:31] | Simon Linden: | fwiw Kelly's fix has made it into our main branch, so there's some lingering problem |
[17:32] | Maggie Darwin: | Rex: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/ |
[17:32] | Rex Cronon: | thanks |
[17:32] | Sindy Tsure: | there was talk of some llMoveToTarget tweaks a while ago - more damping controls and such.. any chance we'll see that any time soon? |
[17:32] | Andrew Linden: | Well unfortunately I'm still not on a bug smashing rampage. I'm hoping to get back into that in Dec sometime. |
[17:33] | Maggie Darwin: | Runs under Tomcat. |
[17:33] | Andrew Linden: | Sindy, remind me of the llMoveToTarget() changes? |
[17:33] | Rex Cronon: | i thought was using php |
[17:33] | Andrew Linden: | were they discussed in these office hours? |
[17:34] | Sindy Tsure: | something to enable objects that move thru a serious of waypoints, for example.. |
[17:34] | Andrew Linden: | oh right |
[17:34] | Sindy Tsure: | the current way it damps makes it difficult to do that |
[17:34] | Andrew Linden: | that is a neat feature I would like to work on |
[17:34] | Sindy Tsure: | yep! actually, it was the reason i first came here |
[17:34] | Andrew Linden: | but it is not in progress |
[17:34] | Maggie Darwin: | Rex: Nope. The Wiki probably is PHP. The Blog almost certainly. JIRA is a Java servlet app. |
[17:34] | Andrew Linden: | My optimistic guess would be... |
[17:35] | Sindy Tsure: | ok.. just didn't want you to totally page it out :) |
[17:35] | Andrew Linden: | I'll hopefully fix bugs half of Dec and all of Janurary |
[17:35] | Andrew Linden: | and then maybe try to write some features |
[17:35] | Sindy Tsure also mentions http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-22 while she's randomizing the conversation anyway | |
[17:35] | Simon Linden: | There's an associated issue where gravity does some funky things with llMoveToTarget() - I looked at it but eliminating gravity would probably break old content |
[17:35] | Andrew Linden: | I've got a few that I would work on before the new scripted motion methods |
[17:36] | Sindy Tsure: | yep! http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2441 , simon! |
[17:36] | Simon Linden: | I think I need a version of that sheep generator that works on specific jira numbers |
[17:36] | Maggie Darwin: | Rex: Java Incident Reporting Application is a probable acronym. |
[17:36] | Siobhan McCallen: | a lot of devices use gravity |
[17:36] | Andrew Linden: | SVC-22 is not so much a small bug fix as it is a full project |
[17:36] | Sindy Tsure: | sheep generator! |
[17:36] | Andrew Linden: | but it might fall into my late Janurary or February efforts. |
[17:36] | Rex Cronon: | ha. ha. ha:) |
[17:37] | Maggie Darwin: | So it should become a meta issue? |
[17:37] | Latif Khalifa: | who works on backend services, ie. is there any movement on bugs that people feel most everu day related to groups, group im, and related? |
[17:37] | Andrew Linden: | that is, the solution to SVC-22 will require a significant amount fo code and design |
[17:38] | Sindy Tsure: | :\ |
[17:38] | Andrew Linden: | Latif, there is a team that works on emergency bugs |
[17:38] | Siobhan McCallen: | we're glad it's being looked at, thank you, Andrew |
[17:38] | Andrew Linden: | crashers, permissions problems, security issues |
[17:38] | Andrew Linden: | sometimes I get pulled into that |
[17:38] | Latif Khalifa: | Andrew, these are not really emergency, group chat consistently does not work ;) |
[17:38] | Latif Khalifa: | for months |
[17:38] | Latif Khalifa: | in big groupo |
[17:39] | Latif Khalifa: | groups* |
[17:39] | Arawn Spitteler: | Are we talking about, how my cranky bank won't fly, unless I make a box of siz prims? |
[17:40] | Andrew Linden: | Simon, do you know about any team working on group IM chat right now? |
[17:40] | Simon Linden: | No, I don't |
[17:40] | Andrew Linden: | I've heard people talking about it months ago, but haven't overheard any conversations about it recently. |
[17:40] | Maggie Darwin: | Andrew, if you should hear somebody say that a gadget named "Inner Strength" suddenly breaks under 1.25...it's true. The developer is MIA. And the bug is you launch an effect or attack and then can't shut it off. |
[17:40] | Ellla McMahon: | sort of connnect http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-5529 what is maint-viewer-11 |
[17:40] | Sindy Tsure: | is the problem there mostly figuring out who to include in the session? |
[17:40] | Ellla McMahon: | *connected |
[17:41] | Maggie Darwin: | I think that whoe situation may be very different after FJ gets some of his infrastructure improvements in |
[17:41] | Andrew Linden: | meh, it's hard to pay attention to all the projects people are working on |
[17:41] | Simon Linden: | Me too ... we should probably ping someone on that, or find out what the status is |
[17:41] | Simon Linden: | maint-viewer-11 is a code branch with viewer bug fixes |
[17:42] | Siobhan McCallen: | is that group chat scroll bug related to the problem where your inventory scrolls out of control when you clear the search bar? |
[17:42] | Ellla McMahon: | the scrolling has got alot worse in the latest BSI, I wonder if its connected to the fix pending for vwr-5529 |
[17:42] | Ellla McMahon: | no this is just chat Siobhan, Group, IM and Local |
[17:42] | Latif Khalifa: | Ella, no this is not a viewer bug I am talking about, I am talking about "unable to send group im" error that pops out almost everytime for certain groups |
[17:43] | Latif Khalifa: | something to do with group servers being partitioned on group uuid |
[17:43] | Ellla McMahon: | yes sorry :( |
[17:43] | Simon Linden: | Latif, do you know the jira number for that? |
[17:43] | Latif Khalifa: | which makes some of them really overloaded |
[17:43] | Siobhan McCallen: | oh, you mean the bug that you type a message, and 30 seconds later it pops up with "group error could not send message try again later", but posts it anyway most of the time? |
[17:43] | Latif Khalifa: | that one yes |
[17:43] | Latif Khalifa: | we,, |
[17:43] | Siobhan McCallen: | god that's annoying |
[17:44] | Latif Khalifa: | well it does not post most of the time |
[17:44] | Siobhan McCallen: | seems to post mine about 3/4 of the time |
[17:44] | Sindy Tsure: | i see that message a lot on some groups that only have a few hundred members.. never seen it on Help Island, which has over 3k members.. |
[17:44] | Latif Khalifa: | i am trying to lookup jira, there were dozens of reports |
[17:44] | Arawn Spitteler: | I think it just responds to the lag |
[17:44] | Ellla McMahon: | http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-1509 |
[17:45] | Maggie Darwin: | "Error message when starting group IM session" |
[17:45] | Latif Khalifa: | http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1298 |
[17:45] | Latif Khalifa: | there are litteraly dozens of reports on this |
[17:45] | Maggie Darwin: | Not quite the same as "group chat dosghit slow and out of order and messages fail" |
[17:46] | Andrew Linden: | Yeah, and that bug entry is pretty old. |
[17:46] | Andrew Linden: | There is an internal version of it |
[17:46] | Sindy Tsure: | http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-513 might be closer.. |
[17:46] | Simon Linden: | Andrew - DEV-6549? |
[17:46] | Siobhan McCallen: | vwr-1297 |
[17:46] | Andrew Linden: | Yeah |
[17:47] | Latif Khalifa: | Sindy, yeah VWR-513 descibes it well |
[17:47] | Simon Linden: | Well, we know who to bug now :) |
[17:47] | Maggie Darwin: | Yeah...people do goofy things with dup. |
[17:47] | Latif Khalifa: | none of these bugs are really VWR ;) |
[17:47] | Siobhan McCallen: | https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1297 |
[17:47] | Latif Khalifa: | they should be SVC- ;) |
[17:47] | Maggie Darwin: | VWR-1297 is actually a better JIRA than the ones it's duoed to |
[17:48] | Latif Khalifa: | well that bug, bugs me the most :) |
[17:48] | Maggie Darwin: | That's one big crack things fall down....when it's not obvious whether things are VWR or SVC...or are both |
[17:48] | Latif Khalifa: | we have "Advanced scripters of second life" which is useless as a help forum because of it |
[17:49] | Andrew Linden: | Alright, well I'll try to ask around and see who knows about group chat, and who should be working on it. |
[17:49] | Sindy Tsure has suggested a number of times that the forums get a JIRA section, so people could talk about issues before clogging up jira | |
[17:49] | Sindy Tsure really doesn't like jira for conversations.. :) | |
[17:50] | Siobhan McCallen thinks there should be a damage-enabled arena someplace for fighting over bugs before putting them in the JIRA | |
[17:50] | Sindy Tsure: | lol |
[17:50] | Maggie Darwin: | SVC-2743 is a perfect example of a problem that langushed as VWR for ages before I convinced folks the real problem was server-side |
[17:50] | Andrew Linden: | well, jira is a crucial bug-specific place where relevant information should go |
[17:50] | Arawn Spitteler: | Isn't Jira for Flame Wars? |
[17:50] | Sindy Tsure: | absolutely, andrew. i just meant somewhere where people could do a little triage first |
[17:50] | Siobhan McCallen: | that's what the arena would be for |
[17:50] | Rex Cronon: | figure out how to connect sl to wow and u can have a fighting arena |
[17:51] | Andrew Linden: | If I go up to another LL dev and start talking about some bug, they will almost always ask for the jira # |
[17:51] | Rex Cronon: | :) |
[17:51] | Kitto Flora: | 770 |
[17:51] | Maggie Darwin: | You *have* to have something like JIRA |
[17:51] | Andrew Linden: | so the jira serves as a central location to store the relevant information |
[17:51] | Sindy Tsure agrees | |
[17:51] | Siobhan McCallen: | yeah, absolutely need some kind of ticket number system |
[17:51] | Sindy Tsure: | and something that ties to source control |
[17:51] | Andrew Linden: | there are so many issues, it is hard to keep them all filed correctly in your brain. |
[17:52] | Maggie Darwin: | The workflows are sometimes a little rough |
[17:52] | Sindy Tsure: | i meant a place where people can say "is this VWR or SVC" or "has this been reported 20 times before" and stuff like that |
[17:52] | Ryozu Kojima: | Hey guys, got an announcement to make when there's time |
[17:52] | Siobhan McCallen: | but it'd stillb e great to tell the people who argue to take it to the circle and dance it out |
[17:53] | Sindy Tsure: | heya ryozu!! |
[17:53] | Siobhan McCallen: | hi ryozu |
[17:53] | Andrew Linden: | Ryozu, go ahead and announce it. |
[17:53] | Siobhan McCallen: | rut roh |
[17:53] | Sindy Tsure nods | |
[17:53] | Ryozu Kojima: | Unfortunatly, due to the new sim pricing plans, Content to Hover won't be around much longer |
[17:53] | Maggie Darwin: | Actually that happens in the JIRA, because it's nearly impossible to find anyting, You have two or three people who spend a lot of time closing dups |
[17:53] | Simon Linden: | The VWR and SVC division is probably extra fluff ... we certainly need to figure out where the bug is, but shouldn't really require a different name tag |
[17:53] | Maggie Darwin: | Sometimes they go overboard though |
[17:54] | Andrew Linden: | Alright, so we'll have to find another region. |
[17:54] | Sindy Tsure: | sorry to hear that, ryozu :( it's a really neat place! |
[17:54] | Siobhan McCallen: | you're welcome to meet in Harrington, Andrew |
[17:54] | Ryozu Kojima: | Sorry about that, just can't afford to keep it around |
[17:54] | Andrew Linden: | I'll try to hunt something down tomorrow. |
[17:54] | Rex Cronon: | try Q |
[17:54] | Maggie Darwin: | There is *something* that is causing attacments with no-copy content, like AOs, to get lost |
[17:54] | Maggie Darwin: | And there are *zillions* of JIRA reports |
[17:54] | Siobhan McCallen: | but I'm sorry to hear about that, Ryozu |
[17:54] | Kitto Flora: | A lot of content will vanish come the new sim prices |
[17:54] | Andrew Linden: | No problem Ryozu, thanks for hosting these meetings. It has been nice and peaceful here. |
[17:54] | Maggie Darwin: | Every stinking one of them has been closed "contact support -- inventory loss" |
[17:54] | Ryozu Kojima: | So am I, won't get to really finish the build |
[17:54] | Siobhan McCallen: | I've got some omni stuff. |
[17:55] | Sindy Tsure: | grid size has dropped 558 regions so far this month |
[17:55] | Maggie Darwin: | But I'm convinced there is an underlying big |
[17:55] | Maggie Darwin: | nug |
[17:55] | Maggie Darwin: | BUG |
[17:55] | Siobhan McCallen gave you New Grayson Station Welcome Center, Harrington (53, 233, 342). | |
[17:56] | Sindy Tsure: | sad news, ryozu.. its made HUGE progress over the last month, too |
[17:56] | Siobhan McCallen: | there's actually an asteroid base just sitting with a table just like this, not doing anything. |
[17:56] | Andrew Linden: | Tell you what, I'll find a new location for next week's meetings. |
[17:56] | Arawn Spitteler would never regard the grid size by sim number, while Null Sims are about: I've heard about losing inventory, with no copy items; does it get found again? | |
[17:56] | Andrew Linden: | You'll have to check the wiki for the new location. I don't have it yet. |
[17:57] | Arawn Spitteler: | Back to Newbiville? |
[17:57] | Andrew Linden: | No, not back to where we started. I forget where that was. |
[17:57] | Arawn Spitteler has fond memories of the Griefer Police dancing on the table | |
[17:57] | Maggie Darwin: | Only by going to support |
[17:57] | Sindy Tsure: | well, simon has a house.. |
[17:57] | Ryozu Kojima laughs. | |
[17:57] | Maggie Darwin: | Do a JIRA search for "chimera" for example |
[17:57] | Sindy Tsure noticed he ate all his ducks, though | |
[17:58] | Siobhan McCallen: | I'll be sad. I'll have fond memories of watching the sheep sail the waters |
[17:58] | Andrew Linden: | I've got some land, but it is in Wengen, right next to a WA on a frozen pond. |
[17:58] | Simon Linden: | I got rid of the ducks - they were doing spooky floating stuff since we released Havok 4 :( |
[17:58] | Rex Cronon: | u could use qarls sim, Q |
[17:58] | Sindy Tsure: | mine go a little nuts too, simon |
[17:58] | Andrew Linden: | yeah, qarl's sim would probably work. That one is public? |
[17:58] | Kitto Flora: | How about swans instead? |
[17:58] | Rex Cronon: | yes |
[17:58] | Ryozu Kojima: | Oh, and if no one has checked it out, hit play on your movie player and check out the ground |
[17:58] | Simon Linden: | We could do it at my space, Denby gets very little traffic |
[17:59] | Ryozu Kojima: | Won't be able to do that anymore, I dont' think anyone does it |
[17:59] | Maggie Darwin: | We have a nice full sim, and a holodeck with a variety of meeting room scenes |
[17:59] | Sindy Tsure: | cool! |
[17:59] | Maggie Darwin: | New Grayson Estate charter: http://tinyurl.com/3cvdpr |
[17:59] | Andrew Linden: | Yeah, I'd like to find a low-traffic spot |
[17:59] | Simon Linden: | In any case, please check the blog |
[17:59] | Rex Cronon: | but u have to talk to qarl about it |
[17:59] | Siobhan McCallen: | aw, cool Ryozu |
[17:59] | Sindy Tsure: | is that words or matrixy stuff? |
[18:00] | Ryozu Kojima: | Some matrix animated gif |
[18:00] | Sindy Tsure: | nice effect! |
[18:01] | Sindy Tsure: | time to run! ty, lindens!! cya, all |
[18:01] | Sindy Tsure: | ty for letting us use this area, ryozu! |
[18:01] | Siobhan McCallen: | cya sindy |
[18:01] | Simon Linden: | Bye |
[18:01] | Maggie Darwin: | Bye Sindy |
[18:01] | Rex Cronon: | bye sindy |
[18:01] | Ryozu Kojima: | Good luck finding a new place, sorry about taking it down |
[18:01] | Ryozu Kojima: | Take care all |
[18:01] | Sindy Tsure poofs in a cloud of sheeps | |
[18:01] | Andrew Linden: | Thanks Ryozu |
[18:01] | Rex Cronon: | bye ryozu |
[18:01] | Arawn Spitteler: | Ask CG, if you can use Aric's Place |
[18:01] | Simon Linden gave you Linden Village - Simon Linden, Denby (213, 45, 29). | |
[18:02] | Andrew Linden: | how about we try Simon's place next week and see how it works out? |
[18:02] | Siobhan McCallen: | whereever's fine with me |
[18:02] | Maggie Darwin: | Sure. |
[18:02] | Arawn Spitteler: | Simon's should do. Else, we could sit on the rails at Jubata |
[18:02] | Rex Cronon: | np |
[18:02] | Simon Linden: | Just need some chairs so we don't get tired |
[18:02] | Kitto Flora: | Does Simon have a LM? |
[18:02] | Siobhan McCallen: | but you're always welcome at our place |
[18:02] | Maggie Darwin: | If we do Jubata I'll rez my "Hellbound Train" |
[18:02] | Andrew Linden: | maybe we should make a landmark dispensor |
[18:02] | Andrew Linden: | and leave it on the table |
[18:03] | Maggie Darwin: | It can rez a party car... |
[18:03] | Simon Linden: | Denby 213,4529 |
[18:03] | Simon Linden: | Hmmm, what's the best way to distribute a LM? |
[18:03] | Latif Khalifa: | wow, a big sim :P |
[18:03] | Kitto Flora: | 4529? |
[18:03] | Simon Linden gave you Linden Village - Simon Linden, Denby (213, 45, 29). | |
[18:03] | Simon Linden: | 45,29 |
[18:03] | Siobhan McCallen: | kinda have to be |
[18:03] | Maggie Darwin: | 8675309 |
[18:04] | Maggie Darwin: | ni-eie-n |
[18:04] | Latif Khalifa: | Simon, find it on the map and copy SLURL ;) |
[18:04] | Kitto Flora: | I see a building there |
[18:04] | Simon Linden: | right |
[18:04] | Andrew Linden: | alright, this hour is over. |
[18:05] | Siobhan McCallen: | nice seeing everyone again |
[18:05] | Kitto Flora: | Byebye all |
[18:05] | Simon Linden: | http://slurl.com/secondlife/Denby/213/45/29 |
[18:05] | Maggie Darwin: | OK...thanks Simon, Andrew |
[18:05] | Andrew Linden: | Look for us in Denby next week. |
[18:05] | Siobhan McCallen: | thank you andrew and simon |
[18:05] | Simon Linden: | Should probably try that before distributing too far :) |
[18:05] | Latif Khalifa: | thanks :) |
[18:05] | Rex Cronon: | bye everybody |
[18:05] | Arawn Spitteler: | North of Longfellow? |
[18:06] | Rex Cronon: | have fun |