User:Andrew Linden/Office Hours/2009 09 24

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  • [2009/09/24 17:00] GG Office Hours HUD v1.5: 5:00 PM: Andrew Linden: Technical issues, SL architecture, physics engine
  • http://slurl.com/secondlife/Denby/213/45/34 (Starts now)
  • [2009/09/24 17:00] Moon Metty: Rex :)
  • [2009/09/24 17:00] Rex Cronon: hi moon:)
  • [2009/09/24 17:00] Ardy Lay: Lissa, duct tape
  • [2009/09/24 17:00] Rex Cronon: hi verybody
  • [2009/09/24 17:00] Twisted Laws: hi's
  • [2009/09/24 17:00] Ardy Lay: Liisa even
  • [2009/09/24 17:00] Meeter: Welcome to Linden office hours
  • [2009/09/24 17:00] Kaluura Boa: Hi everybody
  • [2009/09/24 17:00] Slee Mayo: hello
  • [2009/09/24 17:00] Rex Cronon: hi
  • [2009/09/24 17:00] Moon Metty: hello :)
  • [2009/09/24 17:00] Rehman Polanski: Hello All
  • [2009/09/24 17:01] Rex Cronon: hi
  • [2009/09/24 17:01] Slee Mayo: someone catch that roll of duct tape
  • [2009/09/24 17:01] Liisa Runo whispers: hi all
  • [2009/09/24 17:01] Tiny Blue Kitty Head: All Go
  • [2009/09/24 17:01] Rex Cronon: can u belive this. i finally make it here on time and no lindes:)
  • [2009/09/24 17:01] Rex Cronon: hi
  • [2009/09/24 17:01] Moon Metty: hahahaha
  • [2009/09/24 17:01] Ardy Lay: Hehe
  • [2009/09/24 17:02] Charlette Proto: weird error in log "2009-09-24T23:53:21Z WARNING: LLWorld::addRegion: LLWorld::addRegion exists, but isn't alive"
  • [2009/09/24 17:02] Rex Cronon: its the living dead:)
  • [2009/09/24 17:02] Slee Mayo: it was there in spirit
  • [2009/09/24 17:03] Slee Mayo: hello reddot, haven't seen you an awhile
  • [2009/09/24 17:03] Tiny Blue Kitty Head: All Go
  • [2009/09/24 17:03] Youri Ashton: ello
  • [2009/09/24 17:03] Charlette Proto: WB Morgaine
  • [2009/09/24 17:03] Rex Cronon: hi
  • [2009/09/24 17:03] Youri Ashton: hey simon!
  • [2009/09/24 17:04] Ardy Lay: Hello Simon
  • [2009/09/24 17:04] Charlette Proto: poor kitty look at you under the table Morg
  • [2009/09/24 17:04] Moon Metty: hi Simon :)
  • [2009/09/24 17:04] Rex Cronon: hi simon
  • [2009/09/24 17:04] Simon Linden: hello
  • [2009/09/24 17:04] Morgaine Dinova: I'm bouncing through multiple viewers, until the Lindens appear. So far, every Snow and LL viewer all the way back to 1.22.11 has the sit position bug. It's gotta be 1.30
  • [2009/09/24 17:04] Morgaine Dinova: Hi Simon
  • [2009/09/24 17:04] Charlette Proto: can't you raise with "Page Up" Morg?
  • [2009/09/24 17:05] GG Office Hours HUD v1.5: 5:00 PM: Andrew Linden: Technical issues, SL architecture, physics engine
  • http://slurl.com/secondlife/Denby/213/45/34 (Started 5 minutes ago)
  • [2009/09/24 17:05] Charlette Proto: the sit has a height script
  • [2009/09/24 17:05] Slee Mayo: morg fit nicely in Which's chair earlier
  • [2009/09/24 17:05] Youri Ashton: lol, morg you like to be under the table? dont look up any skirts now! :)
  • [2009/09/24 17:05] Morgaine Dinova: Charlette: I don't want to compensate for the bug, I want to diagnose it :-)
  • [2009/09/24 17:05] Charlette Proto: Morg likes to look at my legs
  • [2009/09/24 17:05] Ardy Lay: Hello Andrew
  • [2009/09/24 17:05] Rex Cronon: hi undrew
  • [2009/09/24 17:05] Youri Ashton: hey andrew!
  • [2009/09/24 17:05] Andrew Linden: Hello
  • [2009/09/24 17:05] Moon Metty: hi Andrew :)
  • [2009/09/24 17:05] Morgaine Dinova: Simon: all viewers tested so far have this sit bug.
  • [2009/09/24 17:05] Charlette Proto: hehe I'm all about appearances/image before bugs
  • [2009/09/24 17:05] Moon Metty: nice to see you all again
  • [2009/09/24 17:06] Neo Nino: Hey Andrew :)
  • [2009/09/24 17:06] Slee Mayo: hi twist, longtime no see
  • [2009/09/24 17:06] Andrew Linden: What is the sit bug
  • [2009/09/24 17:06] Youri Ashton: reddot, omg, that name i havnt seen for a long time
  • [2009/09/24 17:06] Morgaine Dinova: That's all Snowglobes and all LL viewers back to 1.22.11 --- all place the sit position way down
  • [2009/09/24 17:06] Charlette Proto: unless the bug prevents good looks
  • [2009/09/24 17:06] Displace: Could not find animation 'uplip'
  • [2009/09/24 17:06] Displace: Unable to find specified agent to request permissions.
  • [2009/09/24 17:07] Morgaine Dinova: So it looks like 1.30 to me
  • [2009/09/24 17:07] Neo Nino: hmm we seem to e sitting ok
  • [2009/09/24 17:07] Displace: Could not find animation 'uplip'
  • [2009/09/24 17:07] reddot99 Republic: i'm here every weel.
  • [2009/09/24 17:07] Displace: Unable to find specified agent to request permissions.
  • [2009/09/24 17:07] reddot99 Republic: week,
  • [2009/09/24 17:07] Displace: Could not find animation 'uplip'
  • [2009/09/24 17:07] Displace: Unable to find specified agent to request permissions.
  • [2009/09/24 17:07] Youri Ashton: i aint :)
  • [2009/09/24 17:07] Neo Nino: least on my viewer it looks ok
  • [2009/09/24 17:07] Charlette Proto: sorry if I look like I swallowed a bottle of pills, I'm actually alert (kind of)
  • [2009/09/24 17:07] Youri Ashton: its 2am here, cant blaim me :p
  • [2009/09/24 17:07] Andrew Linden: where do I buy the mini avatar outfit?
  • [2009/09/24 17:07] Youri Ashton: which one?
  • [2009/09/24 17:08] Andrew Linden: the one that Morgaine is wearing that sits wrong?
  • [2009/09/24 17:08] Liisa Runo: i have the freebie AO, somekind of construction kit for those
  • [2009/09/24 17:08] Charlette Proto: she poffed I think
  • [2009/09/24 17:08] Morgaine Dinova: Oh, it's not specific to this one though.
  • [2009/09/24 17:08] Youri Ashton: think thats a mini avi flaw
  • [2009/09/24 17:08] Charlette Proto: no sitting on box behind andrew
  • [2009/09/24 17:08] Morgaine Dinova: It's all tinies except Nyx :PPPPP
  • [2009/09/24 17:08] Moon Metty: lol
  • [2009/09/24 17:08] Youri Ashton: :p
  • [2009/09/24 17:09] Youri Ashton: think ill go tiny as well
  • [2009/09/24 17:09] Ardy Lay: I think I have noticed a difference too.
  • [2009/09/24 17:09] Youri Ashton: lol, oops. thats kinda to tiny
  • [2009/09/24 17:09] Morgaine Dinova: Nyx reckons it has something to do with the distance between some body parts, which makes tinies sitting worse than unfolded avs under 1.30.
  • [2009/09/24 17:10] Charlette Proto: how was the 1.3 rollout received?
  • [2009/09/24 17:10] Andrew Linden: hrm... the mini avatar is achieved by giving it a weird convoluted animation that folds the human figure to fit inside, right?
  • [2009/09/24 17:10] Morgaine Dinova looks for another tiny av
  • [2009/09/24 17:10] Moon Metty: yes
  • [2009/09/24 17:10] Morgaine Dinova: Andrew: yeah, it's a mess
  • [2009/09/24 17:10] Charlette Proto: tinies are a bad hack really
  • [2009/09/24 17:10] Youri Ashton: feet on the table, nice :p
  • [2009/09/24 17:10] Andrew Linden: so it may be that the folding animation is doing something bad here, but this problem is new to 1.30 as I recall
  • [2009/09/24 17:11] Liisa Runo: i sit just fine
  • [2009/09/24 17:11] Youri Ashton: used page up :)
  • [2009/09/24 17:11] Morgaine Dinova: Tinies should never have happened. The limits on the standard av should have been extended instead.
  • [2009/09/24 17:11] Youri Ashton: [17:09] Chair: Press Page Up to move chair up, or Page Down to move chair down
  • [2009/09/24 17:11] Charlette Proto: precisely Morgaine
  • [2009/09/24 17:11] Displace: Could not find animation 'uplip'
  • [2009/09/24 17:11] Andrew Linden agrees. However much content in SL should never have happened.
  • [2009/09/24 17:11] Charlette Proto: the av sceleton can't be tiny or huge
  • [2009/09/24 17:11] Displace: Unable to find specified agent to request permissions.
  • [2009/09/24 17:11] Displace: Could not find animation 'uplip'
  • [2009/09/24 17:11] Displace: Unable to find specified agent to request permissions.
  • [2009/09/24 17:11] Displace: Could not find animation 'uplip'
  • [2009/09/24 17:11] Displace: Unable to find specified agent to request permissions.
  • [2009/09/24 17:11] Displace: Could not find animation 'uplip'
  • [2009/09/24 17:11] reddot99 Republic: andrew, i've seen it for months
  • [2009/09/24 17:11] Displace: Unable to find specified agent to request permissions.
  • [2009/09/24 17:12] Morgaine Dinova: But since getting anything changed is close to impossible .... tinies happened instead.
  • [2009/09/24 17:12] Andrew Linden: ok, so not so new. Good to know.
  • [2009/09/24 17:12] Youri Ashton: rather see a tiny then a micro
  • [2009/09/24 17:12] Andrew Linden: Yup. We have tinies.
  • [2009/09/24 17:12] Charlette Proto: what do you mean Andrew, we don't want to be in Blue Mars
  • [2009/09/24 17:12] Youri Ashton: micro's are even smaller and hard to see
  • [2009/09/24 17:12] Moon Metty: we have a tiny plague , you could say!
  • [2009/09/24 17:12] Slee Mayo: ugh, blue mars....don't get me started
  • [2009/09/24 17:12] Charlette Proto: now Blue Mars is lame wtf were they thinking of or not
  • [2009/09/24 17:12] Moon Metty: a huge tiny plague
  • [2009/09/24 17:13] Morgaine Dinova: LOvely, Liisa!!!!
  • [2009/09/24 17:13] Morgaine Dinova: But shows the same bug
  • [2009/09/24 17:13] Liisa Runo: maybe it is just the tinies from this creator?
  • [2009/09/24 17:13] Charlette Proto: BM is an absolute joke and horrid performance to boot
  • [2009/09/24 17:13] Maggie Darwin: They were thinking of VC money and retiring in Hawaii
  • [2009/09/24 17:13] Youri Ashton: 2 pussycats :D
  • [2009/09/24 17:13] Andrew Linden: Let's see... do we have any announcements?
  • [2009/09/24 17:13] Slee Mayo: morgaine, try my chair please, i'm curious to see the results
  • [2009/09/24 17:13] Youri Ashton: super pussycat?
  • [2009/09/24 17:14] Maggie Darwin: And their web programmers are almost as bad as LLs.
  • [2009/09/24 17:14] Andrew Linden: I'm fixing bugs today, but not any of the bugs we've talked about here. Some SEC bugs, and a sim crasher that was introduced in 1.30.
  • [2009/09/24 17:14] Displace: Could not find animation 'uplip'
  • [2009/09/24 17:14] Displace: Unable to find specified agent to request permissions.
  • [2009/09/24 17:14] Displace: Could not find animation 'normallip'
  • [2009/09/24 17:14] Displace: Unable to find specified agent to request permissions.
  • [2009/09/24 17:14] Displace: Could not find animation 'uplip'
  • [2009/09/24 17:14] Displace: Unable to find specified agent to request permissions.
  • [2009/09/24 17:14] Displace: Could not find animation 'uplip'
  • [2009/09/24 17:14] Displace: Unable to find specified agent to request permissions.
  • [2009/09/24 17:14] Displace: Too many errors... dropping further messages until the flood stops
  • [2009/09/24 17:14] reddot99 Republic: is it the one that forced cordova and goguen down most of yesterday?
  • [2009/09/24 17:14] Moon Metty: great fix for vwr-6110 Andrew, what a relief
  • [2009/09/24 17:14] Meeter: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-6110
  • [#VWR-6110] [ ] I was attaching a hud when my other hud with animations-content (worth 22000LD!) disappeared.
  • [2009/09/24 17:14] Youri Ashton: lol, got that one as well morg
  • [2009/09/24 17:15] Youri Ashton: was a free one
  • [2009/09/24 17:15] Charlette Proto: yeah there is a new sim crasher with huge blue surfaces bopping up and down
  • [2009/09/24 17:15] Morgaine Dinova: I don't seem to have another proper tiny
  • [2009/09/24 17:15] Neo Nino: Yes Andrew, thanks for fixing that attachment-drop bug
  • [2009/09/24 17:15] Youri Ashton: liisa, your invisi prim is showing :p
  • [2009/09/24 17:15] Andrew Linden: don't know what hit cordova
  • [2009/09/24 17:15] Neo Nino: Don't think you get enough thanks for actually fixing stuff :)
  • [2009/09/24 17:15] Displace: Could not find animation 'uplip'
  • [2009/09/24 17:15] Displace: Unable to find specified agent to request permissions.
  • [2009/09/24 17:15] Displace: Could not find animation 'uplip'
  • [2009/09/24 17:15] Displace: Unable to find specified agent to request permissions.
  • [2009/09/24 17:16] Displace: Could not find animation 'uplip'
  • [2009/09/24 17:16] Displace: Unable to find specified agent to request permissions.
  • [2009/09/24 17:16] Andrew Linden: I'd have to dig into that. Probably not. The crasher I'm after is very intermittent.
  • [2009/09/24 17:16] Simon Linden: I don't ... I'm mostly stuck on The Project That Must Not Be Named
  • [2009/09/24 17:16] Moon Metty: ah, that one
  • [2009/09/24 17:16] Andrew Linden: Isn't that all projects that the executives think up?
  • [2009/09/24 17:16] Ardy Lay: Can you give it a number?
  • [2009/09/24 17:17] reddot99 Republic: was down for hours yesterday, and " goguen and cordova is broken.. theres 1min return time in goguen and i think scripts are disabled in cordova"(from a imlog)
  • [2009/09/24 17:17] Charlette Proto: wow Simon give as the pisc if descriptions are still NDA
  • [2009/09/24 17:17] Charlette Proto: pics*
  • [2009/09/24 17:17] Ardy Lay: Rizal is no-script now too.
  • [2009/09/24 17:18] Charlette Proto: OpenSource can be like an open sewer when the good will is on a low ebb
  • [2009/09/24 17:18] Andrew Linden: there is a cuttoff stuff to get into server-1.32, deadline is tomorrow
  • [2009/09/24 17:19] reddot99 Republic: also. could we get a better group detection function?
  • [2009/09/24 17:19] Andrew Linden: however, some bug fixes can probably get into server-1.32 up to about two weeks before deploy
  • [2009/09/24 17:19] Andrew Linden: so I might be able to fix a few more
  • [2009/09/24 17:19] reddot99 Republic: that returns a group key instead of a integer?
  • [2009/09/24 17:19] Neo Nino: oh what's in 1.32?
  • [2009/09/24 17:19] Andrew Linden: total time from code freeze to deploy is supposed to be five weeks, I think
  • [2009/09/24 17:19] Andrew Linden: we'll see if we can make that schedule
  • [2009/09/24 17:19] Morgaine Dinova: Well I don't know what to conclude. But I've seen many avs broken on sitting now, which wasn't the case in 1.27
  • [2009/09/24 17:20] Andrew Linden: Stuff in 1.32... some stuff to support the Viewer2.0 project I think.
  • [2009/09/24 17:20] Simple Necklace - light gold, on spine: All Go
  • [2009/09/24 17:20] Andrew Linden: But little of that will be visible until we expose viewer2.0
  • [2009/09/24 17:21] Andrew Linden: some infrastructure improvements for central services -- residents shouldn't notice any changes
  • [2009/09/24 17:21] Object: Could not find script 'Ammo'.
  • [2009/09/24 17:21] Object: Could not find script 'Safe / Unsafe'.
  • [2009/09/24 17:21] Object: Could not find script 'Mode'.
  • [2009/09/24 17:21] Object: Could not find script 'Ammo'.
  • [2009/09/24 17:21] Maggie Darwin: Not really much improved then. :-)
  • [2009/09/24 17:21] Andrew Linden: I've got a few bugs that will be fixed there...
  • [2009/09/24 17:21] Andrew Linden: don't have a list handy
  • [2009/09/24 17:22] reddot99 Republic: actually andrew how hard would it be to get a llGetGroupKey()? or something like that
  • [2009/09/24 17:22] Andrew Linden: VWR-13202 will probably be included
  • [2009/09/24 17:22] Meeter: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-13202
  • [#VWR-13202] Right clicking mouse triggers arrow key control events
  • [2009/09/24 17:22] Andrew Linden: SVC-185 too
  • [2009/09/24 17:22] Meeter: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-185
  • [#SVC-185] llParticleSystem (and others) anal about types
  • [2009/09/24 17:22] Moon Metty: ok
  • [2009/09/24 17:23] Andrew Linden: reddot99, add llGetGroupKey() to Misc-3077 It is not hard for querying against an object
  • [2009/09/24 17:23] Meeter: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-3077
  • [#MISC-3077] Meta-Issue: List of Linden-Confirmed Easy Changes/Additions With Large Returns
  • [2009/09/24 17:23] Andrew Linden: would that query the agent? or an object?
  • [2009/09/24 17:23] Andrew Linden: er... avatar or prim-object?
  • [2009/09/24 17:24] Liisa Runo: and same for llGetObjectDetails
  • [2009/09/24 17:24] Morgaine Dinova: In wireframe, is the seat's sit point marked, and the av's sit point known, so you can check their correspondance?
  • [2009/09/24 17:24] reddot99 Republic: query object, much like you can use gllGetOwnerKey() ona object or a the owner and it turns out the same,
  • [2009/09/24 17:24] Andrew Linden: SVC-3860 will probably be in 1.32
  • [2009/09/24 17:24] Meeter: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-3860
  • [#SVC-3860] llStopAnimation("prejump") freezes avatar
  • [2009/09/24 17:24] Moon Metty: aha
  • [2009/09/24 17:25] Moon Metty: great
  • [2009/09/24 17:25] Andrew Linden: Morgaine, I don't think the seat's sit point is ever marked in the viewer.
  • [2009/09/24 17:26] Andrew Linden: reddot99, that llGetGroupKey() would be easy. A good candidate for misc-3077
  • [2009/09/24 17:26] Morgaine Dinova: Andrew: I'm looking, but can't see it. Hard to diagnose without that info.
  • [2009/09/24 17:27] Maggie Darwin: Morg in a human avi. Seldom seen....
  • [2009/09/24 17:27] Youri Ashton: lol, indeed maggie
  • [2009/09/24 17:27] Andrew Linden: If I were to sort my list of side projects that I'd like to get done... I think two would be at the top:
  • [2009/09/24 17:27] Morgaine Dinova: lol
  • [2009/09/24 17:28] Andrew Linden: misc-3077 and the "return neighbors objects that overlap my land" project
  • [2009/09/24 17:28] Ardy Lay: \o/
  • [2009/09/24 17:28] Andrew Linden: I can't even remember all the side projects I had.
  • [2009/09/24 17:28] Youri Ashton: sounds like something interresting
  • [2009/09/24 17:28] Maggie Darwin: That second is a big prereq for megas
  • [2009/09/24 17:29] reddot99 Republic: SVC-2928 found the jira for that,
  • [2009/09/24 17:29] Meeter: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2928
  • [#SVC-2928] LLGetGroup() call request
  • [2009/09/24 17:29] Andrew Linden: Yes, the return-overlap-objects is a pre-requirement for megaprim liberation.
  • [2009/09/24 17:29] Andrew Linden: reddot99, could you link that to the misc-3077?
  • [2009/09/24 17:29] Youri Ashton: would solve indeed a lot of problems
  • [2009/09/24 17:30] Meeter: Timecheck : office hours is half over
  • [2009/09/24 17:30] Andrew Linden: oh yeah, I'm remembering some of the other projects I wanted to do. Sigh.
  • [2009/09/24 17:30] Youri Ashton: have any idea of when that feature may be ready? or still in a 'too early to tell' stage?
  • [2009/09/24 17:30] Andrew Linden: Which feature Youri?
  • [2009/09/24 17:31] Youri Ashton: [17:29] Andrew Linden: Yes, the return-overlap-objects is a pre-requirement for megaprim liberation.
  • [17:29] Andrew Linden: reddot99, could you link that to the misc-3077?
  • [2009/09/24 17:31] reddot99 Republic: i did link that,
  • [2009/09/24 17:32] Andrew Linden: It really comes down to me Youri. If I had two days of nothing to do I could finish the return-overlaping-objects problem... sorta. I could implement the server-side, but it would be deployed disabled.
  • [2009/09/24 17:32] Andrew Linden: Then the next task would be to convince the administrators of the grid (#support and #concierge) to actually turn it on.
  • [2009/09/24 17:32] Morgaine Dinova: Somebody clone Andrew. Please
  • [2009/09/24 17:32] Youri Ashton: lol
  • [2009/09/24 17:32] Moon Metty: :)
  • [2009/09/24 17:33] Arawn Spitteler's tied up with distractions: we've mntioned SVC-22 and SVC-93 already? Jack, today, mentioned the likelyhood of 1.30.2
  • [2009/09/24 17:33] Meeter: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-93
  • [#SVC-93] llSetPrimitiveParams PRIM_ROTATION and llSetRot incorrectly implemented for child prims
  • [2009/09/24 17:33] Meeter: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-22
  • [#SVC-22] Vehicles crossing region borders aren't always treated as vehicles and can get incorrectly returned if the destination parcel is no-entry or parcel-full
  • [2009/09/24 17:33] Andrew Linden: And it would wait for whatever server could pick it up... probably a few months after completion on my part
  • [2009/09/24 17:33] Youri Ashton: cloning him wont solve the problem im affraid, Philip will just put the clone to work as well, making it double fun for him
  • [2009/09/24 17:33] Youri Ashton: lol
  • [2009/09/24 17:33] Maggie Darwin: No, don't clone him. He won't be threadsafe.
  • [2009/09/24 17:33] Andrew Linden: so ... not til 2010 at leasts
  • [2009/09/24 17:33] reddot99 Republic: hmm, found something, http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-1612
  • [2009/09/24 17:33] Meeter: [#SVC-1612] llGetObjectDetails works on avatars but does not return with OBJECT_GROUP
  • [2009/09/24 17:35] Youri Ashton: interresting indeed
  • [2009/09/24 17:35] Arawn Spitteler: It would take a while but, if we could form a circle, to develop an interlocking ability to Channel, then other people could do Andrew's Work, while Andrew does it also.
  • [2009/09/24 17:36] Arawn Spitteler wonders how other gods ever got anything done without him.
  • [2009/09/24 17:36] Andrew Linden: Well, that LSL call is new to me. It may be that it could be expanded in scope with little work. I'm not sure -- I'd have to look at the code.
  • [2009/09/24 17:36] Youri Ashton: could be interresting to test out
  • [2009/09/24 17:36] reddot99 Republic: it explains the outcome as is in a commenr
  • [2009/09/24 17:37] reddot99 Republic: comment
  • [2009/09/24 17:37] Arawn Spitteler: There's a lot more we could do with Groups, such as detectedRank, but Linden LAbs seems disinclined.
  • [2009/09/24 17:37] reddot99 Republic: i've got a few doors i would like several groups to be able to use, instead of just one
  • [2009/09/24 17:37] Morgaine Dinova: Groups.max += 75, but LL seems disinclined :P
  • [2009/09/24 17:38] Youri Ashton: i rather see on the map and mini map the dots change, for example, everyone you dont know or friended in yellow, lindens in blue, friends in red, something like that
  • [2009/09/24 17:38] Arawn Spitteler wonders how much of the Group Code is Legacy, Code, or LAgacy, being utterly indecyphrable o futue programmers.
  • [2009/09/24 17:38] Youri Ashton: infact it is already in several 3th party viewers
  • [2009/09/24 17:38] reddot99 Republic: youri, 1.23 i think
  • [2009/09/24 17:39] reddot99 Republic: has it implemented
  • [2009/09/24 17:39] reddot99 Republic: sorta
  • [2009/09/24 17:39] Twisted Laws: kelly linden says its disabled intentional
  • [2009/09/24 17:39] Youri Ashton: 1.23 crashes with me to many times, i rather wait till next release :)
  • [2009/09/24 17:39] reddot99 Republic: which is disabled?
  • [2009/09/24 17:39] Maggie Darwin: 1.23 is just as stable as 1.22 for me
  • [2009/09/24 17:39] Maggie Darwin: But I do hear complaints
  • [2009/09/24 17:39] Twisted Laws: returning group keys and gives a reason there
  • [2009/09/24 17:39] Youri Ashton: i got a ATI card, so explains my crashes mostly
  • [2009/09/24 17:40] reddot99 Republic: could we get a url?
  • [2009/09/24 17:40] Arawn Spitteler hasno card, and still crashes
  • [2009/09/24 17:40] Twisted Laws: in the jira, about the 3rd comment
  • [2009/09/24 17:40] Morgaine Dinova: This 1.22.11 (which I only ran to test the sitting) is working perfectly.
  • [2009/09/24 17:40] Maggie Darwin: No card? Bet you have an awesome frame rate then.
  • [2009/09/24 17:40] Charlette Proto: ATI never worked for me in Second Life™ (anything else for that matter in comparison with Nvidia)
  • [2009/09/24 17:40] Twisted Laws: 4th
  • [2009/09/24 17:41] Maggie Darwin: Headless SLV
  • [2009/09/24 17:41] reddot99 Republic: this is not true "Residents can currently choose not to show their group title above their head, or their group title may not actually reflect the group they are in. I think adding this reveals information not currently readily available in the viewer which is why it was initially omitted."
  • [2009/09/24 17:41] reddot99 Republic: it sets you to no group
  • [2009/09/24 17:41] Slee Mayo: * GT 9500 1gig Nvidia support....4km far clip...no probs
  • [2009/09/24 17:41] Twisted Laws: same as llDetectedGroup
  • [2009/09/24 17:41] reddot99 Republic: not hiding it,
  • [2009/09/24 17:41] Youri Ashton: ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2, most of the time problems
  • [2009/09/24 17:41] Arawn Spitteler thinks 4 FPS is a good way of smoothing non-dynamic vehicle motion
  • [2009/09/24 17:42] Moon Metty: lol
  • [2009/09/24 17:42] Youri Ashton: biggest problem infact is the OpenGL drivers though, the rest seems to be petty much okay
  • [2009/09/24 17:43] reddot99 Republic: andrew, could you forsee any issues reenabling that ?
  • [2009/09/24 17:43] Morgaine Dinova: You should try to recruit a GL optimization guru. Would inject a lot of goodness into SL, if everyone gained an extra 30 FPS
  • [2009/09/24 17:43] Youri Ashton: I have to disable the "OpenGL vertex buffer objects" for example to let the viewer run better, else it crashes or even gives the blue screen fo death
  • [2009/09/24 17:44] Charlette Proto: BTW OpenGL (3.2) in Nvidia 191 driver works great and with an .inf hack does notebooks too
  • [2009/09/24 17:44] Kaluura Boa: =^_^= 30 FPS... A dream...
  • [2009/09/24 17:44] Maggie Darwin: Certainly cut down on whining about ARC... :-)
  • [2009/09/24 17:44] Youri Ashton: would be a great help indeed morg
  • [2009/09/24 17:44] Andrew Linden: I haven't been paying attention to video cards hardware and drivers lately.
  • [2009/09/24 17:44] Youri Ashton: right now i have 14 fps
  • [2009/09/24 17:45] Youri Ashton: 211 msec for ping sim
  • [2009/09/24 17:45] Slee Mayo: 44 here
  • [2009/09/24 17:45] Maggie Darwin: Do you really think there's that much slop in how SLV calls OpenGL? 30 FPS?
  • [2009/09/24 17:45] Moon Metty: i can imagine Andrew :)
  • [2009/09/24 17:45] Andrew Linden: Runitai Linden knows all about the current state of that.
  • [2009/09/24 17:45] reddot99 Republic: 1.1 fps
  • [2009/09/24 17:45] Slee Mayo: ouch
  • [2009/09/24 17:45] Youri Ashton: on 1.21 i had 70fps+
  • [2009/09/24 17:45] Youri Ashton: 1.1???
  • [2009/09/24 17:45] Youri Ashton: omg
  • [2009/09/24 17:45] Andrew Linden: reddot99, you're at 1.1 FPS?!
  • [2009/09/24 17:45] reddot99 Republic: yeah, looking at the table
  • [2009/09/24 17:45] Youri Ashton: thought i had a problem :o
  • [2009/09/24 17:45] Moon Metty: that's a slideshow
  • [2009/09/24 17:45] Morgaine Dinova: Nah, there's so much legacy crud upon crud upon crud, I bet +30 FPS is doable. I've hand-optimized code for a client (but am not a GL expert), and you can get incredible gains if you think laterally a bit.
  • [2009/09/24 17:46] Andrew Linden: I'm at 10 FPS. I've got an old crappy card.
  • [2009/09/24 17:46] reddot99 Republic: lol, i'm on a crappy onboard card
  • [2009/09/24 17:46] Youri Ashton: looking towards the water i get about 26fps
  • [2009/09/24 17:46] Maggie Darwin: I'm cranking 12 at the moment ....flycammed so everybody is in-frame
  • [2009/09/24 17:46] Youri Ashton: 31 now
  • [2009/09/24 17:46] Charlette Proto: I'm getting 19FPS with everything on max including Anisotropic filtering from Nvidia in a notebook
  • [2009/09/24 17:46] Moon Metty: i have 15
  • [2009/09/24 17:46] Siobhan McCallen: 17.5, if I pull draw distance back to 64m
  • [2009/09/24 17:47] Youri Ashton: getting my camera to the mast fo the boat gets me even up to 44
  • [2009/09/24 17:47] reddot99 Republic: if i did max, i'd have like .05
  • [2009/09/24 17:47] Charlette Proto: draw at 512 too
  • [2009/09/24 17:47] Youri Ashton: 288m for me
  • [2009/09/24 17:47] Andrew Linden: I lowered my graphics settings and now get 13fps
  • [2009/09/24 17:47] Siobhan McCallen: draw at 512, I get 12.5
  • [2009/09/24 17:47] Maggie Darwin: Golly, I wish we has a slider in-screen for draw distance, since you have to ride it all the time
  • [2009/09/24 17:47] Youri Ashton: i can run everything on max tho, just only do that for picstures
  • [2009/09/24 17:47] Siobhan McCallen: up to 13
  • [2009/09/24 17:47] Charlette Proto: simply put Second Life™ is Nvidia world
  • [2009/09/24 17:48] reddot99 Republic: andrew, whats worse, i am on mminimun quality,
  • [2009/09/24 17:48] Maggie Darwin: Yeah, brought me up to 14. It's just a PITA to trim it allatime.
  • [2009/09/24 17:48] Object: FPS: 44.602051
  • Dilation: 0.993098
  • [2009/09/24 17:48] Andrew Linden: that's what I meant, minimum quality
  • [2009/09/24 17:48] Youri Ashton: oh, trust me, ill never buy another bloody ATI card ever again
  • [2009/09/24 17:48] Youri Ashton: never had any problems with NVIDIA... EVER
  • [2009/09/24 17:48] Siobhan McCallen: I'm on high quality
  • [2009/09/24 17:48] Charlette Proto: BTW I'm getting an impression that OpenGL is better than DX these days (based on Second Life™ vs Blue Mars and Google Earth)
  • [2009/09/24 17:49] Morgaine Dinova: Maggie: there's a 3rd party viewer with draw distance on a slider bottom right. Can't remember which, but prolly Meerkat or Emerald
  • [2009/09/24 17:49] Siobhan McCallen: emerald
  • [2009/09/24 17:49] Arawn Spitteler: If yo ever buy another bloody card, Youri, be sure someone was murdered for it, and it didn't drive them to Suicide.
  • [2009/09/24 17:49] Maggie Darwin: I noticed the RealExtend people are using DirectX
  • [2009/09/24 17:49] Andrew Linden: There were some nVidia cards that would burn out. We've been plagued by that here at LL, but it was a few years ago.
  • [2009/09/24 17:49] Slee Mayo: i think the emareald slider goes up to 512m
  • [2009/09/24 17:49] Maggie Darwin: It's emerald, Morg
  • [2009/09/24 17:49] Morgaine Dinova: kk
  • [2009/09/24 17:49] Youri Ashton: i am gonne try to run linux debian and see what i can get from that, perhaps i can gain more fps
  • [2009/09/24 17:49] Opensource Obscure: I'd have a question on World > Region/Estate > Debug > Top Colliders and Top Script. I'd like more information about both scripts and colliders scores - is there something like a scale for those values?
  • [2009/09/24 17:49] reddot99 Republic: google earth uses opengl,
  • [2009/09/24 17:49] Charlette Proto: yes Morg, bothe Emerald and Meerkat have draw slider and it goes beyond 512
  • [2009/09/24 17:49] Youri Ashton: vista also takes out a lot of pc power
  • [2009/09/24 17:50] Siobhan McCallen is not going to get into the Great 3rd Party Viewer Debate
  • [2009/09/24 17:50] Slee Mayo: yuh, which is why i stay on xp
  • [2009/09/24 17:50] Andrew Linden: Youri, Runitai Linden claims for fastest FPS use nVidia + Linux.
  • [2009/09/24 17:50] Charlette Proto: Google Earth has a choice of DX or GL and GL works better with buildings onNvidia cards
  • [2009/09/24 17:50] Maggie Darwin: Oh, heard the GOOG Chrome Frame plugin for IE improves JS performance 10x. Hee hee hee
  • [2009/09/24 17:50] Arawn Spitteler wonders if a viewer could be hacked to less than 64
  • [2009/09/24 17:50] Youri Ashton: i had no choice, the damn shops here refused to sell me xp
  • [2009/09/24 17:50] Slee Mayo: i'll back that up...nvidia is much better
  • [2009/09/24 17:51] Maggie Darwin: I'll sell you Ubuntu. :-)
  • [2009/09/24 17:51] Youri Ashton: interresting to know andrew, thanks for the tip :)
  • [2009/09/24 17:51] Slee Mayo: *previous ATI user
  • [2009/09/24 17:51] Youri Ashton: ubuntu is free >.<
  • [2009/09/24 17:51] reddot99 Republic: so, that makes me wonder, multiple nvidia cards?
  • [2009/09/24 17:51] reddot99 Republic: what effect might that have
  • [2009/09/24 17:51] Maggie Darwin: Yeah, so? :-)
  • [2009/09/24 17:51] Morgaine Dinova: ATI just never figured out GL. Cory used to bang his head against ATI's misimplementation of GL continually.
  • [2009/09/24 17:51] Slee Mayo: i use one card, GT 9500
  • [2009/09/24 17:51] Siobhan McCallen: space heater
  • [2009/09/24 17:51] Andrew Linden: I tend to get by on liquidated cards. Personally I wouldn't pay more than about $120 for a new card.
  • [2009/09/24 17:51] Slee Mayo: i haven't had the first graphics issue in SL
  • [2009/09/24 17:51] Andrew Linden: More than that and I'll wait for the price to go down.
  • [2009/09/24 17:51] Twisted Laws: set RenderFarClip to less than 64 or more than 512
  • [2009/09/24 17:52] Maggie Darwin: Liquidated cards? Bad fan, prolly.
  • [2009/09/24 17:52] reddot99 Republic: lol
  • [2009/09/24 17:52] Youri Ashton: the first card ill buy next will be with a complete new pc
  • [2009/09/24 17:52] Slee Mayo: my 1 gig card was only $129
  • [2009/09/24 17:52] Youri Ashton: dont have much CPU anyways
  • [2009/09/24 17:52] Slee Mayo: geforce..
  • [2009/09/24 17:52] Charlette Proto: Twisted what does " RenderFarClip" relate to?
  • [2009/09/24 17:52] Twisted Laws: draw distance
  • [2009/09/24 17:52] Slee Mayo: draw distance
  • [2009/09/24 17:53] Youri Ashton: think ill go download ubuntu after this meeting and try it out
  • [2009/09/24 17:53] Charlette Proto: ah OK the UI limitation on 512m
  • [2009/09/24 17:53] Twisted Laws: draw distance is limited from 64 to 512 in the xml file so you could change it there.. or use the debug setting to set it to what you want
  • [2009/09/24 17:53] Youri Ashton: should be able to install it next to vista
  • [2009/09/24 17:53] Andrew Linden: Ubuntu doesn't come with the nVidia drivers, but it makes it easy to download them after instalol.
  • [2009/09/24 17:53] Andrew Linden: install
  • [2009/09/24 17:53] Youri Ashton: i got ati :)
  • [2009/09/24 17:54] Siobhan McCallen: good term, instalol
  • [2009/09/24 17:54] Youri Ashton: drivers are no problem, i download such things in advance :p
  • [2009/09/24 17:54] Slee Mayo: MS term
  • [2009/09/24 17:54] Andrew Linden: Oh well... probably not much reason to go to Ubuntu Youri
  • [2009/09/24 17:54] Youri Ashton: got 1.5Tb external :p
  • [2009/09/24 17:54] Charlette Proto: haha ATI and Linux is another thing; don't go there please
  • [2009/09/24 17:54] Slee Mayo: 1.5TB nternal
  • [2009/09/24 17:54] Youri Ashton: why not andrew?
  • [2009/09/24 17:54] Maggie Darwin: MSFT trademarked "IntelliLOL"
  • [2009/09/24 17:54] Kaluura Boa: It wworks... Tha's my config...
  • [2009/09/24 17:55] Andrew Linden: The ATI OpenGL drivers for linux are not very good. Er... have not been good for years.
  • [2009/09/24 17:55] Youri Ashton: lol, darned
  • [2009/09/24 17:55] Andrew Linden: Kaluura, you're on Linux + ATI?
  • [2009/09/24 17:55] Meeter: Timecheck : office hours is almost over
  • [2009/09/24 17:55] Charlette Proto: ATI (AMD) may have good will for Open Source but the results are dismal
  • [2009/09/24 17:55] reddot99 Republic: andrew, what would it take to get SVC-1612 reneabled, if it really is because of t being disabled?
  • [2009/09/24 17:55] Kaluura Boa: Yep... It works... Not very fast but my CPU is outdated
  • [2009/09/24 17:55] Liisa Runo: Kal, tell them how old you computer is
  • [2009/09/24 17:55] Siobhan McCallen whispers: svc-22
  • [2009/09/24 17:56] Morgaine Dinova: In theory ATI drivers will surpass nVidia's, since AMD has given all the ATI docs to the FOSS community. Unfortunately that's still theory.
  • [2009/09/24 17:56] Andrew Linden: The ATI drivers have been getting better, but just don't compete with nVidia on linux, or so I've heard.
  • [2009/09/24 17:56] Opensource Obscure: I'm on Linux Ubuntu + Nvidia GT 9600 and SL works fine
  • [2009/09/24 17:56] Youri Ashton: my pc is in march 3 years old
  • [2009/09/24 17:56] Slee Mayo: here here
  • [2009/09/24 17:56] Arawn Spitteler: Child, by cmparison
  • [2009/09/24 17:56] Youri Ashton: CPU: Intel Core 2 Series Processor (2671 MHz)
  • Memory: 4095 MB
  • OS Version: Microsoft Windows Vista Service Pack 2 (Build 6002)
  • Graphics Card Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.
  • Graphics Card: ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2
  • Windows Graphics Driver Version: 8.14.0010.0697
  • OpenGL Version: 2.1.8918
  • [2009/09/24 17:56] Kaluura Boa: Mine is older than that
  • [2009/09/24 17:57] Maggie Darwin: [17:51] TwitterBox v0.4: oobscure: Andrew Linden: Runitai Linden claims for fastest FPS use nVidia + Linux #secondlife (24 Sep 17:51 SLT)
  • [2009/09/24 17:57] Charlette Proto: what is it with Second Life™ reporting Centrino 2 CPUs as 25nm fabricate and a Xenon chip
  • [2009/09/24 17:57] Opensource Obscure: do you agree that a quad-core CPU is not actually necessary to SL if you're not used to run multiple applications ?
  • [2009/09/24 17:57] Slee Mayo: not bad, youri, i'd think about changing vidcards though
  • [2009/09/24 17:57] Arawn Spitteler: It's good for devs to have outdatesd systems, and to remember a lot of non-profits don't want game cards on their sstems
  • [2009/09/24 17:57] Andrew Linden: I had a question I was going to ask you guys. I forget what it was.
  • [2009/09/24 17:57] Youri Ashton: quad core is not good yet
  • [2009/09/24 17:57] reddot99 Republic: quad core is no better than sinlge core for sl,
  • [2009/09/24 17:58] reddot99 Republic: as its built for one
  • [2009/09/24 17:58] Slee Mayo: how many greifers have we killed topday, andrew?
  • [2009/09/24 17:58] Youri Ashton: Slee: i rather have a new pc all together, damn junk just keeps having problems
  • [2009/09/24 17:58] Andrew Linden: I don't track down griefers anymore.
  • [2009/09/24 17:58] Maggie Darwin: I have a quad and like it very much. I doubt SLV uses it effectively.
  • [2009/09/24 17:58] Morgaine Dinova: Everyone runs multiple applications, assuming that you click on URLs. It's common to have a zillion tabs open.
  • [2009/09/24 17:58] Siobhan McCallen: eleventy zillion
  • [2009/09/24 17:58] Charlette Proto: ??? [17:57] Charlette Proto: what is it with Second Life™ reporting Centrino 2 CPUs as 25nm fabricate and a Xenon chip
  • [2009/09/24 17:58] Youri Ashton: i have ffs less points then a similar system with a 8800 card o_0
  • [2009/09/24 17:58] Opensource Obscure: i alwaysclose web browser when i make SL video or need best performances
  • [2009/09/24 17:59] Slee Mayo: i thank lightning for taking out my old box...i went through tigerdirect and pieced together a super fast system for under $600
  • [2009/09/24 17:59] Youri Ashton: benchmark points that is
  • [2009/09/24 17:59] Andrew Linden: Yeah, it doesn't cost much for a really good computer these days.
  • [2009/09/24 17:59] Maggie Darwin: Tigerdirect is a ripoff house. I'll never deal wth them again.
  • [2009/09/24 17:59] Morgaine Dinova: ps -efl | wc -l
  • 470
  • [2009/09/24 17:59] Charlette Proto: Centrino 2 > "CPU: Intel Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon (0.25 micron process) with external L2 cache (2527 MHz)"
  • [2009/09/24 18:00] Morgaine Dinova: Multiple cores helps a lot
  • [2009/09/24 18:00] Slee Mayo: i've never had a problem with them *shrug
  • [2009/09/24 18:00] Andrew Linden has to look up those ps options.
  • [2009/09/24 18:00] Opensource Obscure: thanks simon and andrew - bye everybody
  • [2009/09/24 18:00] reddot99 Republic: micron is different from nm
  • [2009/09/24 18:00] Youri Ashton: i never buy another pc online ever again, ill rather go to a store thats more expansive but without ripping people off for quality
  • [2009/09/24 18:00] Meeter: Thank you for coming to Linden office hours
  • [2009/09/24 18:00] Arawn Spitteler: One idiot in Customer Service can lose a host of customers
  • [2009/09/24 18:00] Morgaine Dinova: Andrew: oh, just "list everything"
  • [2009/09/24 18:00] Moon Metty: see you OS :)
  • [2009/09/24 18:00] Maggie Darwin: Latrers OS
  • [2009/09/24 18:00] Andrew Linden: I usually do 'ps aux'
  • [2009/09/24 18:00] Siobhan McCallen waves
  • [2009/09/24 18:00] Morgaine Dinova: See you OO
  • [2009/09/24 18:00] Charlette Proto: good luck andrew and Simon with those NDA viewer things
  • [2009/09/24 18:00] Youri Ashton: only my old pentium 1 was working as it should
  • [2009/09/24 18:01] Rex Cronon: tc
  • [2009/09/24 18:01] Youri Ashton: after that never had any pc that worked as it suppost to :S
  • [2009/09/24 18:01] reddot99 Republic: andrew, would you please see abouut enabling SVC-1612?
  • [2009/09/24 18:01] Andrew Linden: ok thanks for coming
  • [2009/09/24 18:01] Morgaine Dinova: Yeah, "ps aux" is the BSD version of "ps -efl" from SysV Unix
  • [2009/09/24 18:01] Youri Ashton: thanks for having us andrew and simon!
  • [2009/09/24 18:01] Arawn Spitteler's vehicle would like to be able to find its way home: Thx for coming, Andrew.
  • [2009/09/24 18:01] Siobhan McCallen: thank you andrew and simon
  • [2009/09/24 18:01] Andrew Linden: it's been a long day today. I even fixed a bug... something about NaN's getting into the physics engine.
  • [2009/09/24 18:01] Morgaine Dinova: TC Andrew/Simon
  • [2009/09/24 18:01] Moon Metty: :)
  • [2009/09/24 18:01] Youri Ashton: think ill go test out ubuntu, just to be sure
  • [2009/09/24 18:01] Slee Mayo: fixing a bug requires whiskey as a reward
  • [2009/09/24 18:02] Siobhan McCallen: for a second I thought that was "nine inch nails"
  • [2009/09/24 18:02] reddot99 Republic: oh thank you for that andrew, finally
  • [2009/09/24 18:02] Moon Metty: see you soon Andrew and Simon
  • [2009/09/24 18:02] Youri Ashton: check both frame rates on benchmark and see if i get a better result on SL
  • [2009/09/24 18:02] Andrew Linden: Youri, you can test it without installing Ubuntu
  • [2009/09/24 18:02] Arawn Spitteler: Today's crash brought to you, by the number Z
  • [2009/09/24 18:02] Youri Ashton: i know :p
  • [2009/09/24 18:02] Youri Ashton: got it on CD :p
  • [2009/09/24 18:02] Andrew Linden: however, I don't think it is easy to test the accelerated OpenGL drivers without installing... I haven't tried it to be truthful
  • [2009/09/24 18:02] Youri Ashton: reboot is something im not happy about tho, takes to much time...
  • [2009/09/24 18:02] Youri Ashton: love sleep mode :p
  • [2009/09/24 18:03] Youri Ashton: ill let you know my results
  • [2009/09/24 18:03] reddot99 Republic: NaN plus physics, bad day,
  • [2009/09/24 18:03] Morgaine Dinova: Reboot is accepting that your O/S is screwed :-)
  • [2009/09/24 18:03] Youri Ashton: lol
  • [2009/09/24 18:03] Morgaine Dinova: uptime
  • 02:03:23 up 166 days, 20:38, 132 users, load average: 1.69, 1.72, 1.76
  • [2009/09/24 18:03] Youri Ashton: my Os is screwed up :p
  • [2009/09/24 18:04] reddot99 Republic: or you need to do an update :p
  • [2009/09/24 18:04] Youri Ashton: and vista aint OS really, its plain ripping people off :)
  • [2009/09/24 18:04] Maggie Darwin: I'd have better uptime on Linux if the house power was reliable
  • [2009/09/24 18:04] Andrew Linden: wow, I use a Mac laptop running Ubuntu, but it doesn't have that kind of uptime
  • [2009/09/24 18:04] Slee Mayo: just wait for win7
  • [2009/09/24 18:04] Slee Mayo: *rollseyes
  • [2009/09/24 18:04] Youri Ashton: microsoft is one of the biggest companies that rip people off openly :p
  • [2009/09/24 18:04] Charlette Proto: no need to wait Win7 is great
  • [2009/09/24 18:04] reddot99 Republic: what model andrew?
  • [2009/09/24 18:05] Charlette Proto: RC works a 100%
  • [2009/09/24 18:05] Andrew Linden: MacBook Pro... 2 years old
  • [2009/09/24 18:05] Youri Ashton: aight, time for my to fly and test :p
  • [2009/09/24 18:05] Arawn Spitteler: Anyone seen that Norton Security Spam? Have they dropped out of the Virus Hunting biz?
  • [2009/09/24 18:05] Youri Ashton: bye bye all!
  • [2009/09/24 18:05] Slee Mayo: cya
  • [2009/09/24 18:05] Morgaine Dinova: Cyu Youri
  • [2009/09/24 18:05] Rex Cronon: tc
  • [2009/09/24 18:05] reddot99 Republic: my macbook has stayed on that long before, wuith mac os running
  • [2009/09/24 18:05] Moon Metty: are you still here Simon?
  • [2009/09/24 18:06] reddot99 Republic: probly older though,
  • [2009/09/24 18:06] Tiny Blue Kitty Head: All Go
  • [2009/09/24 18:06] Slee Mayo: someone told me there would be punch and pie here.....
  • [2009/09/24 18:06] Kaluura Boa: And give my prim back; Reh...
  • [2009/09/24 18:07] Rehman Polanski: hehe. ur wish is my command
  • [2009/09/24 18:07] Arawn Spitteler: I don't happen to have any punch, but coffee and tea I have
  • [2009/09/24 18:07] Simon Linden: sorry, been multitasking ... it's been one of those days ...
  • [2009/09/24 18:07] Moon Metty: hehe
  • [2009/09/24 18:07] Slee Mayo: morgaine
  • [2009/09/24 18:07] Slee Mayo: try please
  • [2009/09/24 18:07] Simon Linden: I had some donuts in my inventory, but they're likely to be stale...
  • [2009/09/24 18:07] Slee Mayo: ugh
  • [2009/09/24 18:07] Morgaine Dinova: Ugh
  • [2009/09/24 18:07] Moon Metty: :)
  • [2009/09/24 18:07] Slee Mayo: weird
  • [2009/09/24 18:08] Moon Metty: sorry i was out of the running for a while
  • [2009/09/24 18:08] Morgaine Dinova: Something's definitely changed for sitting
  • [2009/09/24 18:08] Simon Linden: I also have to run ... thanks everyone for coming, I should be more involved next time
  • [2009/09/24 18:08] Moon Metty: i see i missed an opportunity to test svc-3819
  • [2009/09/24 18:08] Meeter: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-3819
  • [#SVC-3819] "Top Scripts" in estate tools is inaccurate
  • [2009/09/24 18:08] Rex Cronon: tc simon
  • [2009/09/24 18:08] Moon Metty: i'll post on the jira, ok?
  • [2009/09/24 18:08] Morgaine Dinova: Tc Simon
  • [2009/09/24 18:08] Kaluura Boa: svc-1
  • [2009/09/24 18:08] Meeter: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-1
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  • [2009/09/24 18:08] Arawn Spitteler still gets splinters through his cheeks
  • [2009/09/24 18:09] Morgaine Dinova: lol
  • [2009/09/24 18:09] Liisa Runo: svc-2
  • [2009/09/24 18:09] Slee Mayo: ok, time to head back to the sandbox, have fun
  • [2009/09/24 18:09] Meeter: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2
  • [#SVC-2] Rezzed object key changes on region move
  • [2009/09/24 18:09] Simon Linden: bye everyone
  • [2009/09/24 18:09] Moon Metty: see you :)
  • [2009/09/24 18:09] Kaluura Boa: vwr-1
  • [2009/09/24 18:09] Meeter: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1
  • [#VWR-1] Texture repeats is transmitted to other prims upon linking
  • [2009/09/24 18:09] Morgaine Dinova: Slee, Nyx's av appears to be immune to the sitting problem too.
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