User:Benjamin Linden/Office Hours/2007 Aug 23
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Transcript of Benjamin Linden's office hours:
| Wyn Galbraith: | Hey Jurin | |
| Jurin Juran: | hi | |
| Squirrel Wood: | So what's hot today? | |
| Benja Kepler: | any more on the OpenID? | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Squirrel is all about hot today. | |
| Benjamin Linden: | I'm not in the loop on openID stuff Benja | |
| Benjamin Linden: | what specifically were you wondering? | |
| Benja Kepler: | oh, ok, someone on a forum said you were | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Zero talked about it today. | |
| Saijanai Kuhn: | Some of the people from the Croquet progject were up on OpenID too as a way of maintaining identifiy across the multiverse | |
| Benja Kepler: | no, Zero talked about OpenID on the wiki/pjira today | |
| Ciaran Laval: | Benjamin got a mention on the forums for some reason | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | And SL | |
| Wyn Galbraith likes the idea. | ||
| Benjamin Linden: | which forum? sldev or the web forums? | |
| Saijanai Kuhn: | Second LIfe, Croquet, Home, Multiverse, etc... All with a single OpenID | |
| Benjamin Linden: | I'm a big fan of openID but I don't really know what our plans around it are | |
| Ciaran Laval: | The web forums, someone said you'd been discussing it quite a while back | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Maybe involving the UI? | |
| Benjamin Linden: | hmm I don't remember that, but it's possible | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Check Zero's log when he puts it up. | |
| Benja Kepler: | http://forums.secondlife.com/showthread.php?t=206142 | |
| Benjamin Linden: | I went to an openID talk at LinuxFest northwest a few months ago | |
| Benja Kepler: | i started some threads today ... | |
| Benja Kepler: | (haven't used the forums in ages) | |
| Ciaran Laval: | Rough crowd in the forums | |
| Benjamin Linden: | rough crowd in general :-) | |
| Benja Kepler: | yeah - I got a 'haven't read the sodding....' response | |
| Benja Kepler: | lol | |
| Benja Kepler: | egg on face on my part - my Paranoia Chip overheated today | |
| Saijanai Kuhn: | Wyn and I volunteerede to herd the cats in teh sldev forum | |
| Benjamin Linden: | what do you mean by that Saijanai? | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Yeah and I just got a call for a job interview next week. | |
| Jurin Juran: | yay wyn! | |
| Saijanai Kuhn: | trying to keep threads on tpic and such. Wyn probalby can tell you more | |
| Benjamin Linden: | wow, that's great news, Wyn! | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Just a dataentry job. | |
| Benja Kepler: | cool, Wyn - I had an interview last week... | |
| Benjamin Linden: | oh yeah, Rob was just talking to me about that, Saijanai | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Did you get the job? | |
| Benja Kepler: | yes | |
| Jurin Juran: | congrats benja | |
| Benja Kepler: | thx! | |
| Benjamin Linden: | oh that's fantastic, Benja! | |
| Benjamin Linden: | are you moving to SF? | |
| Saijanai Kuhn: | grats | |
| Benja Kepler: | haha | |
| Benja Kepler: | South London | |
| Benjamin Linden: | oh sweet | |
| Jurin Juran: | awesome | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Cool, well I need to get working. Congrats, of course you volunteer for something... | |
| Saijanai Kuhn: | Doing what? | |
| Ciaran Laval: | I thought they were in Brighton? | |
| Benjamin Linden: | are you a dev, Benja? | |
| Benja Kepler: | yes, but in DEC | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | A LL job? | |
| Benja Kepler: | (no, not LL) | |
| Ciaran Laval: | Ohhhh! | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Ah... | |
| Benja Kepler: | ahhh | |
| Wyn Galbraith can wish ;D | ||
| Benja Kepler: | back to RL for me | |
| Saijanai Kuhn: | oooh... | |
| Benjamin Linden: | oh lol | |
| Benja Kepler: | or whatever it's called now | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Me too. But data entry isn't hard work. Got to do something. | |
| Benjamin Linden: | I thought you were talking about LL Benja | |
| Saijanai Kuhn: | (reference to Castle Aaarrrggghhh goes here) | |
| Benjamin Linden: | but still, congrats! | |
| Benja Kepler: | no, RL work | |
| Benja Kepler: | :( | |
| Squirrel Wood: | rl job good! pays them nasty bills! | |
| Benja Kepler: | aye | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Got to pay my tier. | |
| Squirrel Wood: | On the topic of user interfaces... http://www.tale-of-tales.com/TheEndlessForest/ <= that "game" has a quite interesting one. Also the Abiogenesis part (which only the creators can use) may provide some nice new ideas for the UI :) | |
| Benjamin Linden: | so, I think on Tuesday someone wanted to discuss accessibility | |
| Benjamin Linden: | unless my mind is failing me | |
| Saijanai Kuhn: | spore has some intereseting ideas too. The easiest one is the 3D editor that looks like part of the world | |
| Benjamin Linden: | I'm looking forward to spore | |
| Benjamin Linden: | if it ever ships | |
| Squirrel Wood: | Spork! | |
| Saijanai Kuhn: | march 2008 according to the latest word (this month) | |
| Benjamin Linden: | wow, it keeps slipping further and further | |
| Saijanai Kuhn: | huge project | |
| Saijanai Kuhn: | MMORPG world meets ImLife | |
| Saijanai Kuhn: | SimLife | |
| Benjamin Linden: | right | |
| Benjamin Linden: | Squirrel, what is it about this other game that you like? | |
| Benjamin Linden: | hey Scope! | |
| Scope Cleaver: | Hi! | |
| Scope Cleaver: | Thanks Jurin | |
| Squirrel Wood: | Its a user interface that works completely without words. | |
| Jurin Juran: | yw scope | |
| Benjamin Linden: | interesting | |
| Benjamin Linden: | are IMs lagging for other folks too? | |
| Ciaran Laval: | Some of my chat is | |
| Squirrel Wood: | IMs have been lagging badly for me all day | |
| Benjamin Linden: | hmm, probably not a good sign | |
| Squirrel Wood: | Mostly longer messages though | |
| Ciaran Laval: | My IM's have been ok though | |
| Benjamin Linden: | I'll check out this game, Squirrel | |
| Benjamin Linden: | there's a "new" online world call vside that also has an interesting interface | |
| Benjamin Linden: | very clean | |
| Saijanai Kuhn: | mac client availabel? | |
| Saijanai Kuhn: | available? | |
| Saijanai Kuhn: | yes it is.. http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/games/role_strategy/vside.html | |
| Saijanai Kuhn: | Is Second LIfe listed on the Apple site? | |
| Benjamin Linden: | not sure | |
| Saijanai Kuhn: | http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/games/role_strategy/secondlife.html | |
| Saijanai Kuhn: | yep | |
| Squirrel Wood: | I hear voice? | |
| Saijanai Kuhn: | loveless | |
| Ciaran Laval: | Subliminal messages | |
| Benjamin Linden: | oh I think it was JayR wanted to talk more about the communicate window | |
| Dale Glass: | "RPG & Strategy"? Weird. | |
| Benjamin Linden: | but I don't see her here | |
| Ciaran Laval: | It's not as bad as I first thought | |
| Dale Glass: | oh, I wanted to ask about designing something | |
| Saijanai Kuhn: | text sizes still ned activation, at least on the Mac | |
| Flight Band: | All Go | |
| Benjamin Linden: | what's up Dale? | |
| Dale Glass: | ok, I'm trying to add some extra info to the chat log | |
| Dale Glass: | I wanted to make it for example log the owner of the object that's speaking | |
| Dale Glass: | now my problem is how | |
| Dale Glass: | First approach was adding text fields with the info. But that's ugly, and has only room for one element, so gets lost quickly | |
| Dale Glass: | so my current attempt is writing it to the log | |
| Dale Glass: | now the problem there is: If a lookup is needed, it's not possible to add the info immediately | |
| Benja Kepler: | hi Latizia | |
| Dale Glass: | eg, may need a key lookup | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | hiya folks | |
| Dale Glass: | skipping it while the info is missing isn't good, as maybe you'll only get one message | |
| Dale Glass: | so here's what I came up with: | |
| Dale Glass: | [12:00] Thingy [#1]: Hi! | |
| Dale Glass: | [12:01] #1: Dale Glass | |
| Dale Glass: | that is, if it doesn't know who, it queues it up and assigns it a number | |
| Dale Glass: | and then when it's done says what name it got | |
| Dale Glass: | any better ideas? | |
| Squirrel Wood: | How about making it Thingy (Dale Glass): Hi! ? | |
| Dale Glass: | but the problem is that on the first message my key may not be known | |
| Benjamin Linden: | that's an interesting problem Dale | |
| Dale Glass: | getting it requires asking the server | |
| Squirrel Wood: | then display (unknown) ? | |
| Dale Glass: | but if there's only 1 message from that object that's all you'll get | |
| Dale Glass: | not very useful | |
| Benjamin Linden: | Could you just have a follow-on message that says "Thingy is owned by Dale Glass"? | |
| Benjamin Linden: | and before the lookup it would say "Thingy [looking up owner]: blah blah" | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | or Dale Glass' Thingy... hn no that sounds wrong lol | |
| Ciaran Laval: | There's always one :P | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | LOL Laetizia | |
| Benjamin Linden: | or message could just not include the owner until the lookup is done | |
| Benjamin Linden: | *messages rather | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | sometimes those servers are down altogether anyway | |
| Dale Glass: | well, the problem is that there are two options: Skipping it completely, which loses valuable data | |
| Dale Glass: | or somehow queueing up the chat log and delaying it until the data arrives | |
| Dale Glass: | but that last way isn't very nice | |
| Benjamin Linden: | my suggestion is to not queue the messages and just show them without the owner info | |
| Benjamin Linden: | but then when you get the owner info display that in a message (as above) | |
| Benjamin Linden: | and then include owner with all future messages | |
| Benjamin Linden: | does that make sense? | |
| Dale Glass: | makes sense, pretty much what I have already | |
| Dale Glass: | just slightly different info, but same implementation really | |
| Benjamin Linden: | yeah, I think making the user remember a number and then correlating that number to a follow-up message would be tough for some | |
| Squirrel Wood: | keep it as simple as possible. yep. | |
| Benjamin Linden: | sounds like it will be helpful once it's done, though. I'm looking forward to checking it out | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | not sure what we're talking about but there are owner online scripts that show the owner of an object | |
| Dale Glass: | I also now display position info from IMs | |
| Dale Glass: | Turns out IM messages contain the sim and coordinates | |
| Benjamin Linden: | oh wow, cool | |
| Benjamin Linden: | the coordinates from where it originates? | |
| Dale Glass: | that took me some work to do though | |
| Dale Glass: | yep, it includes the sim key | |
| Benjamin Linden: | so you could just tp right to the source | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Interesting. | |
| Dale Glass: | but since there's no key -> sim name lookup function, I had to make a bot and make it hop through the whole grid to build a DB :-D | |
| Jansen Miles: | Erg. Privacy issues... | |
| Benja Kepler: | you get a slurl now when something gives you a notecard, like your office notecard giver, Benjamin.... | |
| Dale Glass: | so far 9000 sims explored, 3000 left | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | wow so many! | |
| Squirrel Wood: | some sim names change frequently though | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | but their keys don't, do they? | |
| Benja Kepler: | do they? I saw that Rosedale is nect to Kapor | |
| Dale Glass: | well, LL includes the data, I just show it. If there are privacy issues the thing would be not to give the viewer that data in the first place | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Sims can change their name? | |
| Benja Kepler: | *next | |
| Dale Glass: | as anybody with coding knowledge can get that info easily right now | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | yeah Wyn, if you sell Sexyland to the methodist church they may want to change the name ;) | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Wow, didn't know that. Thanks, another new thing learned today. | |
| Benjamin Linden: | I agree with Dale | |
| Dale Glass: | generally not a problem, I could run the bot weekly or such | |
| Benjamin Linden: | but it does seem like there are potential privacy issues | |
| Dale Glass: | also it's possible to teleport to a sim by key | |
| Wyn Galbraith wants to ride the bot. | ||
| Benjamin Linden: | Dale, what does the bot do, can you clarify? | |
| Dale Glass: | so it's funny, you can't know what's it called, but you can teleport to it | |
| Dale Glass: | ok, sims like assets have a key | |
| Dale Glass: | only there's no llKey2Name for sims, not even as a message the viewer can send | |
| Squirrel Wood: | I assume it TPs to the key and queries the sims name | |
| Dale Glass: | however, when you connect to a sim you get both the key and sim name | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | what if these are closed off sims? | |
| Dale Glass: | so the bot just teleports from one sim to another gathering data | |
| Dale Glass: | it doesn't need to teleport to each, keys of neighbouring sims are available | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Should get an error messagae and pass on to the next sim. | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | *message | |
| Dale Glass: | og, my viewer probably has the key for Campus, no need to TP there | |
| Benjamin Linden: | interesting | |
| Benjamin Linden: | does the bot store the data somewhere? | |
| Wyn Galbraith still wants to ride the bot, Dale. :D | ||
| JayR Cela: | Dale does the bot loose her hair and shoes when she teleports from one simm to another / LOL :_) | |
| Dale Glass: | yeah, it generates a .xml file I'll include with my next viewer | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | lmao | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Yeah it gets stuck to her bottom. | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | I hear frequent heavy TPing will kill your inventory | |
| JayR Cela: | haaaaa I knew it !!!! she has the same problem we all have too | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | I think it would be a rush to travel from sim to sim quickly. | |
| Wyn Galbraith will use an alt that has no important inventory. | ||
| Laetizia Coronet: | lol | |
| Dale Glass: | lots of lines like this in that file: | |
| Dale Glass: | <entry id="b5d5d8ea-748e-41d1-afea-41467de27f6d" handle="1125899907100672">Beaumont</entry> | |
| Dale Glass: | my bot teleports every 5 seconds on average | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Ruth Littlething, she's got nothing. | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | please make me lose all the default crap I no longer need like Hakajuru Male skin | |
| Squirrel Wood: | 720 sims per hour... | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Wow. | |
| JayR Cela: | Dale can you program you bot to hunt down and destroy griefers as well ?? | |
| Squirrel Wood: | so it takes about 17 hours to complete the mapping | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | wow that's so fast Wyn wouldn't even know what was happening | |
| Benja Kepler: | so does it have a name? like Grid Shepherd? | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | That would be an interesting ride. I've been given rides through every room in a MU* before. | |
| Dale Glass: | it's a libsecondlife bot, it doesn't load textures or anything | |
| Dale Glass: | so it's quite light | |
| Dale Glass: | it's called Gatherer Infinity | |
| Dale Glass: | offline right now | |
| Benja Kepler: | ok, so I can ban it.... | |
| Benja Kepler giggles | ||
| Jurin Juran: | LOL benja | |
| Dale Glass: | probably too late :-P | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | wow tat even sounds like a NASA project | |
| Dale Glass: | and I can always make a second one | |
| Benjamin Linden: | lol @ laetizia | |
| Benjamin Linden: | Dale, are you worried about the size of that xml file? | |
| Benjamin Linden: | seems like it might get quite large | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | It was for punishment, but it turned out to be so much fun. Took about 10 minutes to hit every room. | |
| Dale Glass: | it's about 1MB | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | "And liftoff for Space Shuttle Glass with Gatherer Infinitry on board" | |
| Wyn Galbraith claims shotgun! | ||
| Benjamin Linden: | oh that's not too bad | |
| Dale Glass: | probably should compress quite well too | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Sim astronut. | |
| Benja Kepler: | yes, and a Klingon ship will encounter it in the future and zap it | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | mind the heat resistant tiles though | |
| Wyn Galbraith is an avatar of high quality and can take it. | ||
| Squirrel Wood: | them shields compensate for defective tiles :p | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | Benjamin can I raise an UI point? | |
| Dale Glass: | ok, in case anybody is wondering why | |
| Saijanai Kuhn: | Benjamin, it seems to me that scriptable bots should be pretty high on the list for LL's internal testing use | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Might be an idea for a new SL ride Dale. | |
| Dale Glass: | I made this thing while tracking an IM spamming object | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Don't have time to explore? hit every sim anyway ;) | |
| Benjamin Linden: | yes, go ahead Laetizia | |
| Benja Kepler: | oh, yes, Dale, I read your blog | |
| Dale Glass: | problem is that IM spam can come from anywhere at all, so it's nastier than normal chat | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | it is very very hard in busy places to select a speaker to turn his volume up or down, the names jump about all the time. | |
| Squirrel Wood: | the worst thing are name changing IM spammer objects | |
| Dale Glass: | well, my next viewer will tell yo where they are and who owns them :-) | |
| Jurin Juran: | if you click on name laetizia it holds them | |
| Benjamin Linden: | Dale, can you send mea link to your blog | |
| Dale Glass: | sec... | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Just put it here Dale, I think I have it but am not sure. | |
| Laetizia Coronet would love a Random Landmark machine, you might be able to make one Dale | ||
| Benjamin Linden: | Laetizia, if you click on the column header for people's names, it will sort by name | |
| Dale Glass: | http://daleglass.wordpress.com/2007/08/09/silencing-the-voice-of-god/ | |
| Benjamin Linden: | and stop sorting by last speaker | |
| Benjamin Linden: | hey JayR I didn't even see you sneak in | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | oh! good ty | |
| Benjamin Linden: | thanks Dale | |
| Laetizia Coronet had no idea, and I am supposed to help people | ||
| Wyn Galbraith is going to have to run off to fix a computer soon, part just arrived. | ||
| Ciaran Laval: | I'd love a bookmark ability | |
| Benjamin Linden: | I have a question for you guys | |
| Benjamin Linden: | which sites, blogs, forums, etc do you use to find out about cool new builds, or classic old ones? | |
| JayR Cela: | Ben hi there I came to speak with you about my opinions on the SL voice client | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Lindens are full of questions today. | |
| Benjamin Linden: | lol | |
| Wyn Galbraith is already herding cats ;) | ||
| Benjamin Linden: | we want to *listen* more | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | builds... NWN usually | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Shoot. | |
| Squirrel Wood: | word of mouth seems to be a good source for me ^^ | |
| Jansen Miles: | Finally we can get torches and pitchforks and go after spammers as a mob! | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | my own blog is more issue and person oriented | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Picks. | |
| Grey Kurka: | I like Torleys pics for new builds | |
| Saijanai Kuhn: | would require a weeb data base for 12000 sims but would be worth it to a lot of people... | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | yes Torley is a rich source of a wide variety of new stuff | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | I've started writing about places, my blog is new and I'm new to doing them. | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Found great piano maker. | |
| Ciaran Laval: | You want to listen more Benjamin? | |
| Jurin Juran: | sue is good wyn | |
| Benjamin Linden: | what about sites like second life insider | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | neve seen it actually | |
| Benjamin Linden: | do you think it would be a good idea to have a page on the wiki, like an SL Tourists Guide or something | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Don't read a lot of blogs, or haven't in the past. | |
| Jurin Juran: | i run them all in feeds | |
| Jurin Juran: | yes it would be a good idean | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | That's a good idea. | |
| Benjamin Linden: | that people can go and add links to sites that have good tips on where to go in-world | |
| Ciaran Laval: | Yes a tourist guide is a great idea | |
| Jurin Juran: | the newbies love "things to do" group | |
| Ciaran Laval: | There's an unofficial book isn't there | |
| Grey Kurka: | When you look at pics it gives you an imediate sense of the place | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Be nice to have it all in one place. | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | Benjamin it would be good to present newbies with some package or page yes | |
| Benjamin Linden: | yes, there's a book | |
| Jurin Juran: | there is a landmark hud thats popular | |
| Ciaran Laval: | Books are too static though, web based would be better# | |
| Roman Legius HUD: Roman HUD Ready and Operational. For help, Click the HUD. | ||
| Laetizia Coronet: | but I can already hear people griping about not being on the page | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Webbased is a better idea. | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | With SLurls | |
| Benjamin Linden: | I like the wiki because people can add their own things | |
| Benjamin Linden: | and LL doesn't get blamed for favoritism | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | Prok: "The Lindens are just putting their frends on this list" | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | So is this like the SL Tourist office on wiki? | |
| Ciaran Laval: | Some people will never find their way to the wiki though | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | exactly, good thinking | |
| Benjamin Linden: | that's the beauty of the wiki | |
| Wyn Galbraith facepalms. | ||
| Grey Kurka: | But it needs to be more visual, sl is all about the visual, the Wiki is too dry | |
| Benjamin Linden: | true Ciaran, but we can do a better job of pointing people to the wiki | |
| Gatherer Infinity: | I'm in ur grid, collecting sum data. Ph33r. | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Lots of snapshots. | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | the Wiki can contain photos | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Uhoh here comes the Gatherer. | |
| Benjamin Linden: | and there are ways to make the wiki more visual | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | wheres mah gun | |
| Ciaran Laval: | Torley made a great blog about the wiki the other day but alas it's way down the blog listing now | |
| Benjamin Linden: | is that your bot dale? | |
| Squirrel Wood: | Add a "Popular Places" button to the UI `which loads up the wiki page ? | |
| Saijanai Kuhn: | A thing that Silicon Plunkett created a while back is a Sim terrain sculpty generator. Dale and Silicon should get together and create a visual 3D databsae of popular sims | |
| Benja Kepler: | I just muted the Gatherer | |
| Jurin Juran: | make it more like bloghud, with snapshots | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | I saw that, quite impressive | |
| Benjamin Linden: | what is bloghud Jurin? | |
| Benjamin Linden: | is it like sloog? | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | LOL | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | A SLOOG | |
| Laetizia Coronet wants a part of the action and considers writing more explorer blogs ;) | ||
| Benjamin Linden: | have any of you used sloog? it's great | |
| Jurin Juran: | yes it is | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | no idea what it is | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | That's a good idea, I did 'Postcards from the Sledge' on my blog. | |
| Jansen Miles: | UI idea. In the Communicate dialog, clicking on a name in the right panel highlights all of their chat text in the left. | |
| Jurin Juran: | bloghud is easier for me to use tho | |
| Chaise lounge (black leather): llStopAnimation: Script trying to stop animations but agent not found | ||
| Wyn Galbraith: | Only didn't keep track of where the snapshots were taken. | |
| Saijanai Kuhn: | associated idea: colored text for people, or groups of people in chat | |
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| Laetizia Coronet: | I did a chopper trip across 40 sims in one go | |
| Jansen Miles: | Highlighted in a non-intrusive way that doesn't impede readability. | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | and I am planning a water tour | |
| Benjamin Linden: | hmm that's an interesting idea Jansen | |
| Wyn Galbraith just wants to be put in a sphere and tour that way. "Hey that's an idea for a water tour. | ||
| Saijanai Kuhn: | Gatherer INfinity needs a group tag. | |
| Benjamin Linden: | JayR, did you want to make some comments ont he communicate window? | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | no... I'll use a freebie boat because my fancy yacht freezes uop on sim crossings | |
| Jansen Miles: | I was looking for some text just now in a long history. It's a pain. Also, the whole Ctrl-F find thing should work in the context of the Communicate dialog as well. I know it's been discussed for the scripting window. | |
| JayR Cela: | Ben would be better perhaps in private , since I really have nothing positive to say :( | |
| Dale Glass: | ack, hit an evil viewer bug | |
| Dale Glass: | yep, that's my bot | |
| Ciaran Laval: | These meetings are awfully polite, it's not like going to one of Robin's! | |
| Benjamin Linden: | that's fine, JayR, there's been plenty of negative feedback | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | Dale is there a way to recognize a bot? There is someone on Hep Island just saying hi to everyone for hours on end | |
| Benjamin Linden: | does polite = boring? :-) | |
| Grey Kurka: | I have a quick question about the building window | |
| Ciaran Laval: | Ok who TP'd Benjamin out of here? | |
| Gatherer Infinity: | I can speak through it too | |
| Connecting to in-world Voice Chat... | ||
| Squirrel Wood: | WB
??? Connected | |
| Benjamin Linden: | sorry guys, my viewer crashed | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | I've got to go too, got to fix a system. | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | LOL Benjamin | |
| JayR Cela: | byee Wyn | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | ha! | |
| Benjamin Linden: | I was trying to get fancy with the camera | |
| Dale Glass: | hehe, mine too | |
| Dale Glass: | same bug! | |
| Saijanai Kuhn: | someone wanted a 1-axis scaling option for link sets. Shouldn't be too hard to add, but again, not sure where the code lives | |
| Dale Glass: | darn thing locks up | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | get rid of that Win95 already Benjamin | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Hahah... happens to me all the time. | |
| Grey Kurka: | You have to keep draw distance real low when using Camera | |
| Benjamin Linden: | haha I might be better off with win95 | |
| Benjamin Linden: | Jurin is it my imagination or did your avatar just smile? | |
| Jurin Juran: | i smile alot | |
| Jurin Juran: | :) | |
| Benjamin Linden: | nurgle has a very cool av | |
| Grey Kurka: | Comment on the Edit window | |
| Grey Kurka: | It would greatly enhance the flow of buildin if there was a keyboard shortcut for Position, and if you could move a selected object incrimentaly with the arrow keys | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | Nurgle is. | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | uh oh he has Linden's Disease ... seeing things on the grid which are not there due to overexposure | |
| Gatherer Infinity: | Bye! | |
| Jurin Juran gave you jurin smiles crop. | ||
| Saijanai Kuhn: | laters | |
| Turtle: Yeah, bye... | ||
| Benjamin Linden: | Grey, let's plan to talk about build tools next week if you'd like | |
| Grey Kurka: | Sure | |
| Wyn Galbraith smiles for Benjamin. | ||
| Benjamin Linden: | I have to run off to another meeting unfortunately | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | good topic | |
| Benja Kepler: | thx | |
| Benja Kepler: | Benjamin | |
| Benjamin Linden: | also JayR, feel free to IM me about the voice chat UI | |
| Ciaran Laval: | Bye Benjamin | |
| Saijanai Kuhn: | making a list and checking it twice (in keeping with white beard motif) | |
| Benja Kepler: | k | |
| Benjamin Linden: | thanks folks! | |
| Laetizia Coronet: | thanks Benjamin for hosting this | |
| Jurin Juran: | bye benjamin | |
| Squirrel Wood: | Thanks for taking the time to listen to us ^^ | |
| JayR Cela: | Ben OK I will | |
| Saijanai Kuhn: | thanks benjamin | |
| Dale Glass: | bye | |
| Wyn Galbraith: | B-bye!!! :D | |
| Benjamin Linden: | my pleasure, take care! | |