User:Bridie Linden/Office Hours/2007 Jul 25
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Transcript of Bridie Linden's office hours:
| [14:54] | Bridie Linden nods | |
| [14:54] | Wyn Galbraith: | Now? |
| [14:54] | Barf Burt looking up waiting for people | |
| [14:54] | Bridie Linden: | soon, Wyn! |
| [14:55] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | CG Linden? |
| [14:55] | Bridie Linden: | 5 mins-ish |
| [14:55] | CG Linden: | Hi |
| [14:55] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Nice to meet yah |
| [14:55] | Bridie Linden: | Hey CG! |
| [14:55] | Gale Barzane: | hi CG linden nice to meet you |
| [14:55] | NunoSecondLife Aabye: | hi |
| [14:55] | Wyn Galbraith: | Well, I'm staying this time. Don't want to chance not getting here. |
| [14:55] | Bridie Linden: | Wyn, I like how your hair and outfit match. |
| [14:55] | Dzonatas Sol: | http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Bug_triage/Viewer_Crashes_Agenda |
| [14:55] | Wyn Galbraith waves to CG | |
| [14:56] | Bridie Linden: | Thx Dz |
| [14:56] | Dzonatas Sol smiles | |
| [14:56] | Bridie Linden: | How's everyone doing today? |
| [14:56] | Wyn Galbraith: | Hi Rex. |
| [14:56] | Daedalus Young: | doing just fine |
| [14:56] | Rex Cronon: | hi everybody |
| [14:57] | Daedalus Young: | how are you? |
| [14:57] | Bridie Linden: | Hi Rex. |
| [14:57] | Rex Cronon: | hi wyn |
| [14:57] | Bridie Linden: | Good, good - busy! |
| [14:57] | Bridie Linden: | CG - having fun today? |
| [14:57] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Sounds like someone has their mic toggled on? |
| [14:57] | Daedalus Young: | be sure to visit Hidden Starax next 6 weeks at Oyster Bay! ;) |
| [14:57] | CG Linden: | she is only typing 50 words a minute, so actually quite relaxed :) |
| [14:57] | Wyn Galbraith notes CG doesn't look like a fly. | |
| [14:58] | Iridium Linden: | Hullo |
| [14:58] | CG Linden: | Hi |
| [14:58] | Daedalus Young: | hi Iridium |
| [14:58] | Dzonatas Sol: | HUllo |
| [14:58] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Hello there tiny Linden =) |
| [14:58] | Bridie Linden: | It's Iridium! |
| [14:58] | Wyn Galbraith: | Hello Iridium! |
| [14:58] | Iridium Linden: | Hiya! |
| [14:58] | Barf Burt: | We are brought here today to dance to a happy song |
| [14:58] | Iridium Linden: | OMG, it's so nice to see all of you guys. |
| [14:58] | Iridium Linden is super excited. | |
| [14:58] | Bridie Linden: | Yes, yes! |
| [14:58] | CG Linden: | full house :) |
| [14:58] | Bridie Linden: | Torley should be showing up soon! |
| [14:58] | Gale Barzane: | happy to see you all too thought you lindens were hiding |
| [14:59] | Barf Burt: | I get to meet the amazing TOrley :D |
| [14:59] | Daedalus Young: | they are, you just found the hiding place |
| [14:59] | Gale Barzane: | lol |
| [14:59] | Rudolph Ormsby: | H guys - I am here mostly to learn, so I have someone's seat - just give me a shove ! :) |
| [14:59] | Bridie Linden: | Np Rudolph |
| [14:59] | Iridium Linden: | Dzonatas, Daedalus, Benja, Wyn, I'm star struck. |
| [15:00] | Gale Barzane: | brrb |
| [15:00] | Iridium Linden: | Ryozu is here too! Yay! |
| [15:00] | tx Oh: | dont sit on me walden |
| [15:00] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | =D |
| [15:00] | Dzonatas Sol hands over the shades | |
| [15:00] | Torley Linden shouts: OMG | |
| [15:00] | Bridie Linden: | Hooray! |
| [15:00] | Daedalus Young: | hi Torley |
| [15:00] | Torley Linden shouts: We're all chillaxin' at Bridie's hizzouse! | |
| [15:00] | Iridium Linden: | yay! Torley! |
| [15:00] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | TorleyKIPS! |
| [15:00] | Torley Linden: | Hey hey everyone! |
| [15:00] | Bridie Linden: | For sure! |
| [15:00] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | holy |
| [15:00] | Daedalus Young: | on sculpties! :D |
| [15:00] | Torley Linden: | Hehehe. |
| [15:00] | Barf Burt: | The watermelon man |
| [15:00] | Torley Linden: | Lush seating fer sure. |
| [15:00] | Gale Barzane: | cool |
| [15:00] | Bridie Linden: | Ok, shall we get started? |
| [15:00] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | hahaha ow wow |
| [15:00] | Walden Mannonen: | ok |
| [15:00] | Bridie Linden: | A few opening remarks... |
| [15:00] | Walden Mannonen: | The Watermelon Man is here so we'll get started |
| [15:00] | Iridium Linden: | http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Bug_triage/Viewer_Crashes_Agenda |
| [15:00] | Alexa Linden: | /ao on |
| [15:01] | Iridium Linden: | We have a lot to get through. |
| [15:01] | Bridie Linden: | Hey Alexa! |
| [15:01] | Bridie Linden: | Yes... |
| [15:01] | Alexa Linden: | hey :D |
| [15:01] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | My girlfriend loves your MelonKip Torley +D |
| [15:01] | LilaSilk Petrov: | Can I listen in? |
| [15:01] | Torley Linden: | Hey Alexa!: :D |
| [15:01] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | XD |
| [15:01] | Bridie Linden: | Some opening remarks -- sorry for spam! |
| [15:01] | Torley Linden: | Thanks Ryozu, it was a stroke of inspiration. |
| [15:01] | Bridie Linden: | First, welcome, welcome and thanks for coming! We really value your help and feedback! |
| [15:01] | Alexa Linden: | Hi Torley :D |
| [15:01] | Dzonatas Sol: | Top Viewer Crashes... should we leave those open? |
| [15:01] | Barf Burt: | love your youtube vids Tor |
| [15:01] | Bridie Linden: | Second, if you're new to our triages -- welcome, but be sure to take a look @ http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Bug_triage#Process_notes |
| [15:01] | Bridie Linden: | Hang on Dz |
| [15:01] | Iridium Linden: | Yay! Aric. |
| [15:01] | Bridie Linden: | Hey Aric |
| [15:01] | Dzonatas Sol: | =p |
| [15:01] | Aric Linden: | grins and waves |
| [15:01] | Bridie Linden: | :) |
| [15:02] | Bridie Linden: | Also, see Torley's great post on better bug reporting: http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/07/05/how-to-report-bugs-better/ |
| [15:02] | Bridie Linden: | (Let me know if I'm going too fast) |
| [15:02] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Heya ARic |
| [15:02] | Bridie Linden: | We'll be on the look out for good repros, system info, linking duplicate issues, making sure priority is set correctly... |
| [15:02] | Aric Linden: | heya ryozu |
| [15:02] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | And Alexa, and everyone else =D |
| [15:02] | Bridie Linden: | Hi all! |
| [15:02] | Bridie Linden: | welcome |
| [15:02] | Alexa Linden waves | |
| [15:02] | Bridie Linden: | I'm planning to keep this a text-chat triage (as opposed to using voice) -- thoughts/feedback welcome. |
| [15:02] | Torley Linden is so excited about Bridie's first inworld office hour and bug triage. :) | |
| [15:02] | Bridie Linden: | I'll be posting the transcripts after each triage, too. Make a landmark so it's easy to come back here next week! |
| [15:02] | Alexa Linden: | WOOT! |
| [15:02] | Bridie Linden loves the Lindens! | |
| [15:03] | Iridium Linden: | omg, me too, Torley. |
| [15:03] | Bridie Linden: | Third, the agenda is here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Bug_triage/Viewer_Crashes_Agenda |
| [15:03] | Walden Mannonen: | Linden Time!!! Linden Time!!! OMG It's Linden Time!!! |
| [15:03] | Bridie Linden: | We will only be able to get through a portion of the current list... |
| [15:03] | Benja Kepler says hi to the Lime Tree Family | |
| [15:03] | Bridie Linden: | I welcome help creating/editing the agenda each week - hint, hint. |
| [15:03] | Bridie Linden: | :) |
| [15:03] | Bridie Linden: | With that said, let's get to work... |
| [15:03] | Bridie Linden: | sound good? |
| [15:03] | Ryozu Yamamoto nods. | |
| [15:04] | Alexa Linden: | /ao off |
| [15:04] | Gale Barzane: | speaking of crashes |
| [15:04] | Bridie Linden: | So, we have quite a list of Top Viewer crashes from Dan Linden... |
| [15:04] | Bridie Linden: | These are sent in to us, but don't have repros -- |
| [15:04] | Aric Linden: | yea! Dan Linden W00T! |
| [15:04] | Aric Linden: | grins |
| [15:04] | Bridie Linden: | yes, w00t for Dan! |
| [15:05] | Bridie Linden: | but his recommendation was that we *not* import unless there's a fix... |
| [15:05] | Wyn Galbraith waves as she returns. | |
| [15:05] | Bridie Linden: | Aric, others - thoughts? |
| [15:05] | Barf Burt thinks that Linden Labs is the greatest | |
| [15:05] | Daedalus Young: | hm, looks quite source code technical :/ |
| [15:05] | Dzonatas Sol: | VWR-589 has a note from Nicholaz |
| [15:05] | Bridie Linden: | Thx Dz |
| [15:05] | Dzonatas Sol: | but that from May |
| [15:05] | Aric Linden: | W/out meaning to sound glib, I think I'd trust Dan's judgement here |
| [15:06] | tx Oh: | i miss vwr-219 on the list, client hangs / crashes on mac osx and linux when parcel radio stream is ogg vorbis |
| [15:06] | Rex Cronon: | Script run-time error |
| [15:06] | Rex Cronon: | Math Error |
| [15:06] | Bridie Linden: | Hmm - so what to do with VWR-589? |
| [15:06] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | That might be fixed soon tx |
| [15:06] | Dzonatas Sol: | I suggest leave it open ... since that note was from May |
| [15:06] | Bridie Linden nods | |
| [15:07] | tx Oh: | also for macs? |
| [15:07] | Rex Cronon: | how fitting is this? i come to discuss viewer crashes, and i crash. |
| [15:07] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Not sure about Macs =/ |
| [15:07] | Bridie Linden: | So shall we move down the agenda to Viewer Crashes, VWR-1682? |
| [15:07] | Iridium Linden: | https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1682 |
| [15:07] | Iridium Linden: | Votes: 1 - System reboot shortly after login on 1.18.0.6 |
| [15:08] | Torley Linden: | This is a type of issue that seems not specific to SL... |
| [15:08] | Dzonatas Sol: | A Reboot is not really a crash... resolve/need more info? |
| [15:08] | Torley Linden: | It's likely other stressful conditions which exercise a computer would result in the same... |
| [15:08] | tx Oh: | can't confirm this (vwr-1682) on linux |
| [15:08] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Seems comptuer related more than SL related |
| [15:08] | Bridie Linden: | I liked Torley's question about trying w/FL |
| [15:08] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Maybe even driver related |
| [15:09] | Aric Linden: | I'd be interested in knowing if this happens consistently or not. |
| [15:09] | Aric Linden: | and always with SL only |
| [15:09] | Torley Linden: | It sounds like we have some outstanding questions that we need answers for. |
| [15:09] | Dzonatas Sol: | Mmhmm, that'll depend on what other 3D apps are being used |
| [15:09] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Need more info then |
| [15:09] | Iridium Linden: | So we'll mark "needs more info." |
| [15:09] | Torley Linden: | Makes sense to me to do "Needs More Info". |
| [15:09] | Iridium Linden: | https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1765 |
| [15:10] | Bridie Linden: | Thx yes |
| [15:10] | Iridium Linden: | Votes: 1 - Compleate system hang after inworld a few minutes |
| [15:11] | tx Oh: | vwr-1765: what operating system? |
| [15:11] | JK Lab HUD 3 AO Male Full V10.3.1: Communication with the server..... | |
| [15:11] | Bridie Linden reads | |
| [15:11] | Dzonatas Sol: | This is one of the old Thunderbirds, very lowest supported chip |
| [15:12] | Bridie Linden: | Hmm - what do you think ARic? |
| [15:12] | Aric Linden: | agrees with Dzonatas |
| [15:12] | Aric Linden: | but it still is a supported chip. |
| [15:12] | Bridie Linden: | There seems to be several 'hang' issues... |
| [15:13] | Bridie Linden: | Resolve or meta-issue? |
| [15:13] | Iridium Linden: | Hiya, Bub. Thanks for coming. |
| [15:13] | Aric Linden: | I think we might suggest that the user reduce frameset allowed. |
| [15:13] | Dru Rossini: | may I listen in? |
| [15:13] | Bub Linden: | Hello Iridium. Welcome to... Er, I mean, of course! |
| [15:13] | Bridie Linden: | Sure Dru |
| [15:13] | Iridium Linden: | lol |
| [15:13] | Bridie Linden: | Hi bub! |
| [15:13] | Iridium Linden: | Sure Dru. |
| [15:13] | Bub Linden: | Hey B$! |
| [15:13] | Iridium Linden: | So we'll make a note of "won't fix?" |
| [15:13] | Aric Linden: | I also think there might be a pipe issue here, I'm curious about the Lag monster comment |
| [15:14] | Aric Linden: | I think we should suggest they reduce frame rate allowed and try running that wy |
| [15:14] | Aric Linden: | way |
| [15:14] | Torley Linden: | Yes, as Aric said. |
| [15:14] | Torley Linden: | We should get Fast TImers results. |
| [15:14] | Bridie Linden: | Sounds good, Torley to update? |
| [15:14] | Torley Linden: | Yes... what additional info do we need from the reporter? |
| [15:14] | Iridium Linden: | https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1863 |
| [15:14] | Iridium Linden: | Votes: 0 - vtdisp Blue screen |
| [15:14] | Bridie Linden: | Hang on Iridium |
| [15:15] | Aric Linden: | Torley, ask them to reset their frame rate allowed lower and see if that helps with hangs and lang |
| [15:15] | Aric Linden: | erm, lag |
| [15:15] | Dzonatas Sol: | My guess it is a driver more than the Thunderbird in 1765 |
| [15:15] | Daedalus Young: | is Resolved as Needs More Info - 1863 |
| [15:15] | Torley Linden: | OK Aric, I'll resolve as "Needs More Info". (VWR-1765) |
| [15:15] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Needs more info |
| [15:15] | Torley Linden: | And I'll ask 'em that, thanx. |
| [15:15] | Bridie Linden: | Perfect |
| [15:15] | Aric Linden: | update drivers yadda yadda too |
| [15:15] | Torley Linden: | (For context, many of these crashes I've come across have been resolved as "Needs More Info".) |
| [15:15] | Bridie Linden nods | |
| [15:15] | Torley Linden: | We should prolly have standard boilerplate "Did you try... ?" text to paste in too in the future. |
| [15:16] | Aric Linden: | nods at torley. |
| [15:16] | Bridie Linden: | Good idea... |
| [15:16] | Wyn Galbraith laughs as she hears the voices in her head make weird noises. | |
| [15:16] | Aric Linden: | Good idea |
| [15:16] | Bridie Linden: | Ok, now onto VWR-1863 |
| [15:16] | Dzonatas Sol *nods* | |
| [15:16] | Bridie Linden: | Click on box near me for hyperlink to page! |
| [15:16] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | VWR-1863: Needs more info |
| [15:16] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Whoops |
| [15:16] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | VWR-1863 |
| [15:16] | Aric Linden: | I think cow's comments say it all |
| [15:16] | Wyn Galbraith: | I get that one all the time. |
| [15:16] | Dzonatas Sol: | need more info on 1863... sys info |
| [15:16] | Bridie Linden: | Yup |
| [15:17] | Gale Barzane: | didnt load for me |
| [15:17] | Rudolph Ormsby: | The BS of D is becoming more frequent - my partner gets it all the time now |
| [15:17] | Ryozu Yamamoto shouts: Heya Michael! | |
| [15:17] | Wyn Galbraith has an Intel chipset on her laptop. "So I get that same stop Bluescreenofdeath with display driver stuck in thread. | |
| [15:17] | Wyn Galbraith waves at MichaelFrancis. | |
| [15:17] | Iridium Linden: | We ready for the next one? |
| [15:17] | Torley Linden: | OK, Needs More Info! |
| [15:17] | Bridie Linden: | Exact repros help, Rudolph |
| [15:18] | Torley Linden: | *marks it* |
| [15:18] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Wyn: What kind of video card? |
| [15:18] | Bridie Linden: | Yes, VWR-673 |
| [15:18] | Iridium Linden: | https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-673 |
| [15:18] | Gale Barzane: | man you guys are moving faster than i can read |
| [15:18] | Wyn Galbraith: | Intel chipset. |
| [15:18] | Iridium Linden: | Votes: 5 - Viewer freeze on timed-out asset download request. |
| [15:18] | Wyn Galbraith: | Internal to the motherboard. |
| [15:18] | Bridie Linden: | sorry, Gale! |
| [15:18] | Wyn Galbraith: | I bet that's what he's got. |
| [15:18] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Sounds lie it |
| [15:18] | Bridie Linden: | This is kinda of an oldy... |
| [15:18] | tx Oh: | no more info's on recent browsers with vwr-673 |
| [15:18] | Wyn Galbraith: | I just bet the Intel Celeron M is Intel all the way. |
| [15:18] | Gale Barzane: | this one bugs me the most |
| [15:19] | Bridie Linden: | 673 == needs more info |
| [15:19] | Aric Linden: | we on 673? |
| [15:19] | CG Linden: | where are we at? 673? |
| [15:19] | Iridium Linden: | Yes |
| [15:19] | Iridium Linden: | 673 |
| [15:19] | Torley Linden: | Yeah, this "Needs More Info" too. |
| [15:19] | Torley Linden: | Looks like no new reports. |
| [15:19] | Bridie Linden: | Everyone caught up? |
| [15:19] | Bridie Linden: | :) |
| [15:19] | Gale Barzane: | yes |
| [15:19] | Gale Barzane: | lol |
| [15:19] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Need to knwo if it still happens, yeah |
| [15:19] | Aric Linden: | I think if they say "yes" to torleys question, then just assign it to me for internal repro |
| [15:20] | Bridie Linden: | Great, thx ARic |
| [15:20] | Iridium Linden: | so 673 needs more info too. |
| [15:20] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Yep |
| [15:20] | Bridie Linden: | /nods |
| [15:20] | Bridie Linden nods | |
| [15:20] | Torley Linden: | Yeah, I'll watch if this gets reopened then. |
| [15:20] | Bridie Linden: | :) |
| [15:20] | Torley Linden: | (With new info.) |
| [15:20] | Iridium Linden: | https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1853 |
| [15:20] | Dzonatas Sol: | Be nice if they get the IM... I'll send them one |
| [15:20] | Rex Cronon: | if i have a crash that i can't reproduce should i even bother going to jira? it seems if things can't be preproduced they are ignored:( |
| [15:20] | Iridium Linden: | Votes: 1 - Missing fonts = segfault x64 Linux |
| [15:20] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Rex: Not true |
| [15:20] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Rex: You can add it to Jira in hopes that others will add mroe info as well. |
| [15:20] | Bridie Linden: | Rex, the more info the better... |
| [15:21] | Bridie Linden: | Yes, Ryozu. |
| [15:21] | Torley Linden: | Yes Rex -- putting the info out in public helps. |
| [15:21] | Torley Linden: | Someone else can go, "Wait, I have a missing piece of info to add!" |
| [15:21] | Bridie Linden: | I asked Tofu about 1853... |
| [15:21] | Torley Linden: | And this has already happened many times; I've seen it and participated in many issues where people collaborated to find a solution. |
| [15:21] | Torley Linden: | Like Second Life itself, people coming together make the difference. |
| [15:21] | Aric Linden: | Rex, too many various systems out there for us to test everything internally. it's really nice to see what other see |
| [15:22] | tx Oh: | on vwr-1853 the solution is given |
| [15:22] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | VWR-1853 Has a solution poted with it, import? |
| [15:22] | Aric Linden: | It helps us understand what we should be doing a better job of internally |
| [15:22] | Aric Linden: | import, but this is just a build issue. |
| [15:22] | Aric Linden: | need to make sure everything is added to the build |
| [15:22] | Torley Linden: | I don't think this is Critical -- I'd down-prioritize it. What say ye? |
| [15:22] | CG Linden: | I guess that one may be a symptom of the build process... |
| [15:22] | Bridie Linden: | Tofu said about 1853: "...suspects the user was simply running or building incorrectly - plenty of other SLDevs are performing 64-bit linux builds and I haven't heard other reports of this problem" |
| [15:23] | Dzonatas Sol: | 1853, it shouldn't crash even if the build itself can be fixed... so there are two problems |
| [15:23] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Aye Torleykips |
| [15:23] | tx Oh: | it would be nice to check if a font is missingbefore opening it |
| [15:23] | Aric Linden: | whoops. i didn't see that comment |
| [15:23] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Neither did I o_o |
| [15:23] | Torley Linden: | Since there's a workaround solution I'd "Major" it and then import. Sound good? |
| [15:24] | Iridium Linden: | kk, so importing 1853? |
| [15:24] | Bridie Linden: | Sounds good, Torley. |
| [15:24] | Torley Linden: | Kk... *imports*! |
| [15:24] | Iridium Linden: | https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1864 |
| [15:24] | Iridium Linden: | Votes: 1 - dwt_decode_tile SegFault |
| [15:24] | Aric Linden: | I'd say it's normal, torley, it's just a matter of making sure the right fonts and cursors are included in the build |
| [15:24] | Bridie Linden: | Iridium is fast! SUPA fast! |
| [15:24] | Torley Linden: | K Aric -- thanks, will do. |
| [15:24] | Torley Linden: | Hehe, we're moving along at a brisk pace here. |
| [15:24] | Dru Rossini: | would be nice to be able to import a .3ds or some kind of dxf file into a sculptie |
| [15:25] | Dru Rossini: | /(my only comment) |
| [15:25] | Iridium Linden: | you guys are the fast ones, not me. |
| [15:25] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Isn't this related to the last one? |
| [15:25] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Err, wait |
| [15:25] | Aric Linden: | I think we should import this one and have someone look at the logs. |
| [15:25] | Bridie Linden: | 1864, Ryozu |
| [15:26] | Dzonatas Sol: | 1864, Awsoonn seems to be able to repro it, but Seg has tried and can't |
| [15:26] | Bridie Linden: | Sounds good, Aric. |
| [15:26] | Ryozu Yamamoto looks embarresed: >_> wrong tab | |
| [15:26] | Torley Linden: | OK, *imports*! |
| [15:26] | Bridie Linden: | :) Ryozu |
| [15:26] | Dru Rossini: | /hehehh - bevis here - he said "logs" hehe |
| [15:26] | Iridium Linden: | https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1855 |
| [15:26] | Iridium Linden: | Votes: 1 - Crash immedatly on Login |
| [15:26] | Bub Linden: | /dru lol |
| [15:26] | Dru Rossini: | /oh think that was related to the outtage |
| [15:27] | Dru Rossini: | /never did get to repply if my inworld experience was getting better or worse/// |
| [15:27] | Bridie Linden: | It was created on Saturday, though |
| [15:27] | Dru Rossini: | /i dunno - been kinda quirky here and there on my intel mac. |
| [15:27] | Gale Barzane: | may i add something to this |
| [15:28] | Bridie Linden: | Sure, Gale |
| [15:28] | Torley Linden: | The reporter seems to be having a lot of crash-esque problems. |
| [15:28] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Dru: You might be interested in this: Click Client->Debug Settings, then find "PlayTypingAnim" in the list and set it to FALSE |
| [15:28] | Gale Barzane: | ive noticed when both us and uk useers are on at same time log in crashes happen the most |
| [15:28] | Dru Rossini: | /and honestly at this point i thought that what is was. |
| [15:28] | Dru Rossini: | /oh ok.... |
| [15:28] | Torley Linden: | Ryozu: That's one of my faves. :) |
| [15:29] | Wyn Galbraith added her comments to VWR-1863 by the by. | |
| [15:29] | Dzonatas Sol: | 1855 may be related to 1864 |
| [15:29] | Bridie Linden: | That's what I was wondering Dz... |
| [15:29] | Dzonatas Sol: | but 1855 happens on the first render screen |
| [15:29] | Bridie Linden: | Import and look into? |
| [15:29] | Torley Linden: | Link 1855 and 1864 too? |
| [15:30] | Aric Linden: | I think we should look at this, but the priority needs to drop. |
| [15:30] | Aric Linden: | Linux isn't as burning as other stuff |
| [15:30] | Iridium Linden: | kk, so import and drop priority? |
| [15:30] | Bridie Linden: | On both Aric? |
| [15:30] | Torley Linden: | Drop to Major then, Aric? |
| [15:30] | Bridie Linden: | I agree. |
| [15:30] | Aric Linden: | i think so, Torley. |
| [15:30] | Maureen Selene thinks Linux is VERY burning :-) | |
| [15:30] | Torley Linden: | OK... changing priorities and importing. |
| [15:30] | Bridie Linden: | Thx Torley! |
| [15:31] | Iridium Linden: | https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-376 |
| [15:31] | Aric Linden: | grins his agreement at Maureen |
| [15:31] | Torley Linden: | We're running a good ship here. |
| [15:31] | Dru Rossini: | welll now THAT is a menu i like! |
| [15:31] | Bridie Linden: | Moving right along! |
| [15:31] | Iridium Linden: | Votes: 3 - Voice Viewer randomly crashing |
| [15:31] | MichaelFrancis Linden: | isn't that due to some of the memory leaks? |
| [15:31] | Wyn Galbraith hasn't seen that one. | |
| [15:31] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Heya Glitch |
| [15:31] | Bridie Linden: | Wow - 1.14 |
| [15:31] | Gale Barzane: | happens ever 15 to 30 minutes for me it will crash and have to relog |
| [15:32] | Dzonatas Sol: | 376, resolve/needs more info for crash log? |
| [15:32] | MichaelFrancis Linden: | Gale: what operating system are you on? |
| [15:32] | Bridie Linden: | Yes, needs more info. |
| [15:32] | Gale Barzane: | windows me |
| [15:32] | Bridie Linden: | Hey MichaelFrancis! |
| [15:32] | Torley Linden: | Hmmm... |
| [15:32] | Iridium Linden: | We ready for the next one? |
| [15:32] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | yeah |
| [15:32] | Bridie Linden: | Or ? Torley? |
| [15:32] | Torley Linden: | Issue Tracker's going a bit slow for me. |
| [15:32] | MichaelFrancis Linden isn't sure we officially support WinME. Aric? | |
| [15:33] | Aric Linden: | We don't MichaelFrancisc. Instead we pity those using it |
| [15:33] | Aric Linden: | meow |
| [15:33] | Gale Barzane: | lolo |
| [15:33] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | ME is built off of 98, I'd assume not? |
| [15:33] | Iridium Linden: | lol |
| [15:33] | Gale Barzane: | thanks |
| [15:33] | Ryozu Yamamoto chuckles | |
| [15:33] | Torley Linden: | 376 should have some crash logs, I can supply info on how to attach those or send them. |
| [15:33] | Rudolph Ormsby suggests Mozilla firefox with all issues preloaded in tabs to resolve speed of Issue Tracker..... | |
| [15:33] | Torley Linden: | "Needs More Info" sounds good on this one. |
| [15:33] | Iridium Linden: | kk |
| [15:33] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Agreed Torley |
| [15:33] | Iridium Linden: | https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1459 |
| [15:33] | MichaelFrancis Linden: | We do have some fixes that supposedly address the memory leakage issues coing in the net build. |
| [15:33] | Iridium Linden: | Votes: 1 - Unexpected crash in Mac OS X: Using a menu? |
| [15:33] | Bridie Linden nods | |
| [15:34] | MichaelFrancis Linden: | that might help alleviate some of the crashing on ME |
| [15:34] | tx Oh: | there was a menu issue which gets fixed |
| [15:34] | Dru Rossini: | Oh |
| [15:34] | Daedalus Young: | 1459 is about 1.17.0; I've had terrible crashing problems on my Mac in 1.17.0, but those were fixed in later versions |
| [15:34] | Dzonatas Sol: | 1459 looks like it can be reproduced, anybody have a mac? |
| [15:35] | Bridie Linden: | Resolve needs more info/try with latest build, etc...? |
| [15:35] | Torley Linden: | Yeah, again, seems to be a one-off... |
| [15:35] | Torley Linden: | not much to go on. |
| [15:35] | Dru Rossini: | would (when I could) talk about a sim wide glitch we seemed to have happen to multiple group assigned objects being returned in groups named for one of the objects in said group. |
| [15:35] | Torley Linden: | Haven't heard anything since I last asked there. |
| [15:35] | Daedalus Young: | yes, would like to know if it still happens |
| [15:35] | Iridium Linden: | kk, so needs more info? |
| [15:35] | Bridie Linden: | yes |
| [15:36] | Bridie Linden: | Dru, let's try and save time near the end to discuss, ok? |
| [15:36] | Torley Linden: | "Needs More Info" it is! |
| [15:36] | Torley Linden: | We're moving at a brisk pace. |
| [15:36] | Iridium Linden: | https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1718 |
| [15:36] | Iridium Linden: | otes: 1 - First Look: Selecting multiple items in object contents then choosing Properties causes crash. |
| [15:36] | Benja Kepler: | I have reproduced this crash (VWR-1718). It happens if objects are selected with Ctrl+click as well. But not on individual objects. |
| [15:36] | Torley Linden: | And we're a little over half of the way through the hour. |
| [15:36] | Dzonatas Sol: | Can LindeBot detect when jira issues have been newly resolved and automatically IM people in-world? |
| [15:36] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Oh, 1718! |
| [15:36] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | That one's been giving me arthritis |
| [15:36] | Aric Linden: | I'd be interested in knowing what _NS calls are related to. |
| [15:36] | Daedalus Young: | 1718 looks like "select multiple objects and hit enter"-crash |
| [15:37] | Torley Linden: | VWR-1718 sounds like it's a solid repro. |
| [15:37] | Torley Linden: | Daedalus: That's what I thought too. |
| [15:37] | Daedalus Young: | which is fixed, iirc |
| [15:37] | Aric Linden: | have to investigate that |
| [15:37] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Very solid |
| [15:37] | Dru Rossini: | np |
| [15:37] | Torley Linden: | Or at least, some steps we can follow... for once! |
| [15:37] | Dru Rossini: | sorry |
| [15:37] | Torley Linden: | :D |
| [15:37] | Benja Kepler: | not enter, select properties from thecontext menu |
| [15:37] | Bridie Linden: | Isn't this a dupe? |
| [15:37] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | You're welcome ;) |
| [15:37] | Torley Linden: | No, not a dupe, it's somewhat different. |
| [15:37] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | I don't think so? I looked for a dupe |
| [15:37] | Torley Linden: | This one pertains to object contents, the other "delete and crash" is about stuff in Inventory -- unless they work the same way. |
| [15:37] | Dru Rossini: | MIYA HEEEE MIYA HOOOOO MIYA HAWWW MIYA HA HAAAA! |
| [15:37] | Torley Linden: | I can check internally and clarify that... I believe Tofu fixed the other one. |
| [15:37] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | I don't think so, this looks like a problem with the XML |
| [15:38] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Maybe |
| [15:38] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Dunno |
| [15:38] | Bridie Linden: | The one that Tofu fixed Torley? |
| [15:38] | Dru Rossini: | omg |
| [15:38] | Bridie Linden: | lol |
| [15:38] | Aric Linden: | MichaelFrancis, have you guys reproed this inhouse? |
| [15:38] | Torley Linden: | Bridie: Yes, the https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1732 one |
| [15:38] | Bridie Linden: | Ok, so import 1718? |
| [15:39] | Bridie Linden: | Yes, thx Torley |
| [15:39] | Torley Linden: | 1718 looks easy enough to repro. |
| [15:39] | Torley Linden: | I'm for importing it. |
| [15:39] | Aric Linden: | agreed |
| [15:39] | Torley Linden: | *imports* |
| [15:39] | Iridium Linden: | https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-228 |
| [15:39] | Iridium Linden: | Votes: 2 - Attempting to log into a down sim results in a randomized location |
| [15:39] | Glass of Margarita whispers: Margarita Time! | |
| [15:39] | Gale Barzane: | gawd yes |
| [15:39] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | o_o |
| [15:39] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | That hardly seems an issue |
| [15:39] | Dzonatas Sol: | 228, it might be good to have a backup home location, yes? |
| [15:40] | Torley Linden: | Randomized location? I think it's supposed to be an Infohub, not just "any place". |
| [15:40] | Torley Linden: | Sec, I'll have a look. |
| [15:40] | Dzonatas Sol: | See also SVC-251 Death teleport fails when teleporting to a home point you no longer have access to |
| [15:40] | Rex Cronon: | i actually think of this as a feature:) |
| [15:40] | Aric Linden: | I think this might be getting looked at as part of the auth process |
| [15:40] | Gale Barzane: | even i have a home setting and you would think it should log me in there but it dont |
| [15:41] | Maureen Selene: | Actually, i wish that SL didn't have a second Home location as the ability to automatically tp to an alternate location if the sim you are in dies. |
| [15:41] | Torley Linden: | VWR-228 is a New Feature request... |
| [15:41] | Aric Linden: | I think we should import it and pass it internally to make sure that it gets considered as a user story for age verification |
| [15:41] | Bridie Linden: | Ok |
| [15:41] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | lol! |
| [15:41] | Aric Linden: | it'd be timely since we're in that part of the code now |
| [15:41] | Torley Linden: | Also remeber someone can choose their login location from the splash screen. |
| [15:41] | Rex Cronon: | i like random:) |
| [15:41] | Torley Linden: | Preferences > General > Show Start Location on Login Screen |
| [15:41] | Torley Linden: | *imports* |
| [15:41] | Iridium Linden: | So import? |
| [15:41] | Bridie Linden: | link to SVC-251? |
| [15:41] | Iridium Linden: | kewl |
| [15:41] | Iridium Linden: | https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-524 |
| [15:42] | Iridium Linden: | Votes: 2 - X300 / x600 Graphics Card Crash |
| [15:42] | Dzonatas Sol: | linked |
| [15:43] | Bridie Linden: | ATI card... |
| [15:43] | Torley Linden: | Oh interesting, this one even has a sub-task. |
| [15:43] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | No idea why though o_o |
| [15:44] | Rex Cronon: | ok, i posted my viewer crash bug on jira. hope something good comes out of it. VWR-1895 |
| [15:44] | Bridie Linden: | Thx Rex |
| [15:44] | Rex Cronon: | np |
| [15:44] | Dzonatas Sol: | sub-taskk: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1894 has this number Ticket #: 4051-4221384 |
| [15:44] | Bridie Linden: | What shall we do with 524? |
| [15:45] | Torley Linden: | 524 sounds like an older issue we resolved... |
| [15:45] | Torley Linden: | sec... |
| [15:45] | Aric Linden: | Ask what happens when they do a gpu driver update |
| [15:45] | Torley Linden: | We have an older issue! |
| [15:45] | Torley Linden: | "ATI X300 and X600 laptops crash before reaching the login screen" - SL-40022 internal. |
| [15:45] | Torley Linden: | Resolved by James awhile ago. |
| [15:45] | Bridie Linden: | Great! |
| [15:45] | Iridium Linden: | So mark as resolved? |
| [15:46] | Bridie Linden: | Fixed? |
| [15:46] | Torley Linden: | They appear to be the same basic problem. |
| [15:46] | Aric Linden: | love torley for jira mastery |
| [15:46] | Dzonatas Sol: | I'll close VWR-1894 as a dupe |
| [15:46] | Bridie Linden: | Thx Dz |
| [15:46] | Daedalus Young: | certainly, Aric |
| [15:46] | Torley Linden: | =^_^= |
| [15:46] | Torley Linden: | Yes, mark this as resolved, and subsequent problems which are infact different should be filed as new issues. |
| [15:46] | Iridium Linden: | https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-629 |
| [15:46] | Iridium Linden: | Votes: 3 - Buffer Overrun message from the MS Visual C++ Runtime Library - viewer terminated. |
| [15:47] | Torley Linden: | I'll cross-link that internally... |
| [15:48] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | 1.15 |
| [15:48] | Bridie Linden: | Resolve more info? - try w/latest viewer, etc? |
| [15:48] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | CPU Properties CPU Type AMD Athlon XP-A, 2081 MHz (6.25 x 333) 2800+ CPU Alias Barton CPU Stepping A2 L1 Code Cache 64 KB L1 Data Cache 64 KB L2 Cache 512 KB (On-Die, Full-Speed) CPU Physical Info Package Type 453 Pin PGA Package Size 4.95 cm x 4.95 cm Transistors 54.3 million Process Technology 6Mi, 0.13 um, CMOS, Cu Die Size 101 mm2 Core Voltage 1.65 V I/O Voltage 1.6 V Typical Power 53.7 - 60.4 W (depending on clock speed) Maximum Power 68.3 - 76.8 W (depending on clock speed) CPU Manufacturer Company Name Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. Product Information http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118,00.html CPU Utilization CPU #1 78 % |
| [15:48] | Dzonatas Sol: | Same X600 on 629 =) |
| [15:48] | Aric Linden: | yes |
| [15:48] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Ack, crap |
| [15:48] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | SOrry |
| [15:48] | Bridie Linden: | s'ok Ryozu |
| [15:48] | Bridie Linden: | :) |
| [15:48] | Rex Cronon: | what is that thing about scripts or gestures making you crash? |
| [15:49] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | He posted later that it seemed resolved with 1.17 |
| [15:49] | Dzonatas Sol: | oops.. scratch my last comment... tab confusion here |
| [15:49] | Aric Linden: | I think that assuming it's related to the buffer over run is nice, but not worth keeping the bug open for |
| [15:49] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | But for whatever reason, my Copy option is disabled |
| [15:49] | Torley Linden: | Thanks Dz for closing that sub-task earlier. |
| [15:49] | Dzonatas Sol: | yw |
| [15:50] | Torley Linden: | I've noticed a problem in JIRA where I have to right-click and copy something else first, and then I can copy and paste again. |
| [15:50] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Jaybird Noel - 26/Jun/07 11:37 AM My issue seems fixed with upgrade to 1.17.1.0 |
| [15:50] | Bridie Linden: | So, 629 - resolve 'needs more info'? |
| [15:50] | Bridie Linden: | Or fixed? |
| [15:50] | Aric Linden: | I'd say just resolve fixed |
| [15:50] | Aric Linden: | but that might just be me. |
| [15:50] | Bridie Linden: | I see Jaybird's comments too |
| [15:50] | Torley Linden: | Yeah,. looks fixed per VWR-176 which is also resolved. |
| [15:51] | Torley Linden: | A dependency. |
| [15:51] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | I'd say resolved |
| [15:51] | Iridium Linden: | https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-695 |
| [15:51] | Dzonatas Sol: | Agree, the new issue should be on a new jira |
| [15:51] | Iridium Linden: | Votes: 0 - Old fashioned memory corruption |
| [15:51] | Aric Linden: | yep |
| [15:51] | Daedalus Young: | in 1.16 |
| [15:51] | Daedalus Young: | most memory problems are solved since then, aren't they? |
| [15:51] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | huh, need more info |
| [15:52] | Bridie Linden: | Yup - try w/latest viewer,et c |
| [15:52] | Aric Linden: | Need more info |
| [15:52] | CG Linden: | my viewer just crashed :) |
| [15:52] | Bridie Linden: | As expected, a fair bit of clean up going through these issues... |
| [15:52] | Kotoko Kohime: | lol |
| [15:52] | Gale Barzane: | ahahah |
| [15:52] | Aric Linden: | If it's still a problem, provide a repro - where were you, what were you doing etc |
| [15:52] | Gale Barzane: | nice to know it happens to you guys too |
| [15:52] | Iridium Linden: | Shall we keep moving? |
| [15:52] | Bridie Linden: | We're winding down - should we try for one more or let Dru bring his issue up? |
| [15:52] | tx Oh: | cg: can you give more details? |
| [15:52] | Iridium Linden: | https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-854 |
| [15:53] | Benja Kepler: | I couldn't reproduce this (VWR-854) with the 3 latest viewers, so I closed this today. |
| [15:53] | Iridium Linden: | Votes: 0 - Viewer crashes in non-Administrator user in MS Vista |
| [15:53] | Bridie Linden: | One more it is! |
| [15:53] | Bridie Linden: | lol |
| [15:53] | Iridium Linden: | ah, kk. |
| [15:53] | Dzonatas Sol: | ty Benja |
| [15:53] | Iridium Linden: | https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-861 |
| [15:53] | Benja Kepler: | yvw |
| [15:53] | Torley Linden: | Hehe! |
| [15:53] | Iridium Linden: | Votes: 1 - memory leak |
| [15:53] | Daedalus Young: | again 1.16 |
| [15:53] | tx Oh: | oh, i'm more curious abiut the letters a-o |
| [15:53] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | tx? |
| [15:54] | Dzonatas Sol: | tx, do you have a crash log? |
| [15:54] | Maureen Selene: | I can confiorm that crashes under Vista have reduced much in numer, though they're stil present :-) |
| [15:54] | Torley Linden: | Thanks for resolving your own issue Benja. :) |
| [15:54] | Aric Linden: | I'd be interested in knowing what drivers they have |
| [15:54] | jaypac Taggart: | bye all was nice thanks |
| [15:54] | jaypac Taggart: | need to go |
| [15:54] | Bridie Linden: | 861? |
| [15:54] | Aric Linden: | but I'd consider this resolved |
| [15:54] | Iridium Linden: | Bye! |
| [15:54] | Bridie Linden: | Thx jaypac! |
| [15:54] | Daedalus Young: | bye jay |
| [15:54] | Bridie Linden: | Great, resolve 861! |
| [15:55] | Torley Linden: | *resolves* |
| [15:55] | Iridium Linden: | kewl |
| [15:55] | Bridie Linden: | Fixed, right? |
| [15:55] | tx Oh: | talking about 861? i really like to know what the letters a0o mean |
| [15:55] | Bridie Linden: | Ok, let's stop here -- from the the list |
| [15:55] | Torley Linden: | Yes, by the reporter's own admission. |
| [15:55] | Iridium Linden: | 16 Issues. |
| [15:55] | Torley Linden: | Nice to see you here tx. :) |
| [15:55] | tx Oh: | a-o |
| [15:55] | Bridie Linden: | Is Dru still here? |
| [15:56] | Bridie Linden: | What a great turn-out BTW!! |
| [15:56] | Torley Linden: | Yes so good to see many of you here. |
| [15:56] | Torley Linden: | Seating is cozy, atmosphere is warm... :) |
| [15:56] | Aric Linden: | if only we had beer |
| [15:56] | Glitch Braess: | Does anyone else see the huge amount of textures? |
| [15:56] | Gale Barzane: | :) you guys went very fast glad to see you guys are working hard on em |
| [15:56] | Maureen Selene wonders if she can ask about a non-viewer crash bug here ? | |
| [15:57] | Dzonatas Sol: | Woot! Lots of people and much business done |
| [15:57] | Bridie Linden: | Sure, Maureen -- quickly though, ok? :) |
| [15:57] | Glitch Braess: | Comnig from the Help Island over there O.o |
| [15:57] | Benja Kepler: | gr* g'night all |
| [15:57] | Bridie Linden: | Thx Benja! |
| [15:57] | Iridium Linden: | Night! |
| [15:57] | Rex Cronon: | i hope that when VWR-1895 is discussed, somebody can send me an im |
| [15:57] | Dzonatas Sol: | Thanks you Lindens! |
| [15:57] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Productive meeting ;) |
| [15:57] | Torley Linden: | Indeed! |
| [15:58] | Torley Linden: | So good to see new and old faces here. |
| [15:58] | Dzonatas Sol: | and thanks for all showing1 |
| [15:58] | Torley Linden: | *takes pictures* |
| [15:58] | Wyn Galbraith: | Thanks for having the meeting and I am modeling an outfit made of one of Torley's textures enhanced with color. |
| [15:58] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Heck of a turnout |
| [15:58] | Maureen Selene: | Ok, i keep seing objects that are skewed , totatins off by a small fraction from where ileft them, edit the objct, and without eveb doign anything, it pops aright again, what is that ?? |
| [15:58] | Gale Barzane: | hhehe :) did ya get my av good side? left side just like the donald |
| [15:58] | Bridie Linden: | Sounds familiar... |
| [15:58] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | Maureen: Floating point math |
| [15:58] | Torley Linden: | I dig that teal-cyan-ishness! |
| [15:58] | CG Linden: | yes |
| [15:58] | Maureen Selene: | only started happening the last update or two. |
| [15:58] | CG Linden: | if you want to do precision building, locate yourself close to the origin |
| [15:59] | Tree Kyomoon: | hello folks |
| [15:59] | Dzonatas Sol: | Torley, I think my picture looks better in this chair than Benjamin's =) |
| [15:59] | Maureen Selene: | has it been fixed yet ? |
| [15:59] | Rex Cronon: | hi tre |
| [15:59] | Kotoko Kohime: | ive noticed that one editing an attached prim then reattaching it |
| [15:59] | Rex Cronon: | tree* |
| [15:59] | Rudolph Ormsby: | It's cool to see how this triage meeting works - I am very impressed ! My partner often sticks bugs in JIRA - she will be pleased this stuff gets looked at ! |
| [15:59] | Dzonatas Sol: | the other chair gave a petrified look |
| [15:59] | Wyn Galbraith: | You should see the outfit with the zebra print. |
| [15:59] | Kotoko Kohime: | seems to jump off from what previous edited position |
| [15:59] | Bridie Linden: | Great Rudolph! |
| [15:59] | CG Linden: | Oh, is it where you feel you moved a prim, and it jumps back to the old position? |
| [15:59] | Kotoko Kohime: | not always but sometimes never couldnt actively reproduce the effect |
| [16:00] | tx Oh: | (i just like to see tofu's gstreamer released :---) |
| [16:00] | Kotoko Kohime: | yeah mostly on small prims in the 0.0x size |
| [16:00] | CG Linden: | I think that if you release the mouse button outside a certain area, it seems to think you cancelled your move |
| [16:00] | Iridium Linden: | kk, I'm off. |
| [16:00] | Iridium Linden waves. | |
| [16:00] | Bridie Linden: | Thx Iridium!! |
| [16:00] | MisticTeanna Kohime: | hello |
| [16:00] | Aric Linden: | bye Iridium |
| [16:00] | Tree Kyomoon: | hello and by iridium :) |
| [16:00] | Aric Linden: | rock on! |
| [16:00] | Wyn Galbraith waves, 'Thanks again for the meeting. | |
| [16:00] | CG Linden: | make sure you keep your pointer within the ruler area... but would need to experiment a little |
| [16:00] | Maureen Selene: | what happes usually is i edit something, leave it for a nother obect. and suddenly its skewed. edi it again, and suddeny its right again. |
| [16:00] | Rex Cronon: | bye iridium |
| [16:00] | Torley Linden: | See ya Iridium, thanks for yer help! |
| [16:00] | Dzonatas Sol: | take care Iridium |
| [16:01] | CG Linden: | Hmmm - certainly worth filing then |
| [16:01] | Rex Cronon: | bye everybody i have to go somewhere else. |
| [16:01] | tx Oh: | continue? |
| [16:01] | Bridie Linden: | Maureen: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-94 |
| [16:01] | Dzonatas Sol: | k all, i'm back at hacking the viewer for Vista users =) |
| [16:01] | Aric Linden: | I'm gone. Thanks for hosting Bridie |
| [16:02] | Torley Linden: | Yeah have a good one Aric! |
| [16:02] | Wyn Galbraith: | B-bye!!! :D |
| [16:02] | Bridie Linden: | Bye! |
| [16:02] | Aric Linden: | cya torley |
| [16:02] | Torley Linden: | Great hosting Bridie. :D |
| [16:02] | Gale Barzane: | bye aric |
| [16:02] | Aric Linden: | bye all... |
| [16:02] | Wyn Galbraith takes off too. | |
| [16:02] | tx Oh: | svc-94? i can't see it in the list |
| [16:02] | Ryozu Yamamoto: | OUch, froze up |
| [16:02] | Tree Kyomoon: | darn looks like i missed a good meeting |
| [16:02] | Kotoko Kohime: | sorry got called off a sec there |
| [16:02] | Bridie Linden: | It wasn't on the list, rx :) |
| [16:02] | Bridie Linden: | sorry, tx |
| [16:02] | Wyn Galbraith: | You did, boney ole Tree ;) |
| [16:02] | Kotoko Kohime: | when i move the prim it was by direct change of the coordinates |
| [16:02] | Maureen Selene: | I've seen svc-94, its annoying, but not the oe i mean. |
| [16:03] | Kotoko Kohime: | on reattach it moved ive only seen it since the last viewer |
| [16:03] | Wyn Galbraith: | You and Aric have the same hairstyilst it seems. |
| [16:03] | Torley Linden: | Hmmm Maureen if it's got a clear series of steps, you definitely should enter it in the Issue Tracker. |
| [16:03] | Crissa Javelin: | Anyone know where Aura Linden's plot is? |
| [16:03] | Bridie Linden nods | |
| [16:03] | Torley Linden: | More info about how to report issues @ https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Issue_tracker |
| [16:03] | Wyn Galbraith runs off to visit Blue. | |
| [16:03] | Torley Linden: | This place looks so awesome in WindLight! |
| [16:03] | Bridie Linden: | :) |
| [16:04] | Bridie Linden: | Thanks everyone for coming! |
| [16:04] | Bridie Linden: | See you next week! |
| [16:04] | CG Linden: | Ok, I'm off - impressive meeting and even more impressive throughput :) |
| [16:04] | Gale Barzane: | i stood mistic so you could sit |