User:Torley Linden/Office Hours/2008-02-15

6 AM

Torley Linden: WHOA!
Torley Linden: BEAR ROMSEY!
Torley Linden: Hello!
ROMSEY Homewood: hello Torley!
Torley Linden: It's a quite morning, hi too Harleen!
Torley Linden: Hey Randal!
Harleen Gretzky: Hi Torley :)
Torley Linden: It's all rezzing in for me now.
Randal Kline: hi all
ROMSEY Homewood: hehe!
Fay Tal: hii =)
ROMSEY Homewood: Torley Totoro
Pim Peccable gave you Whatever.
Torley Linden: Good to see ya here! What's new and exciting?
Chase Marellan: Good morning, Torley, all!
ROMSEY Homewood: hi! :O))
Chase Marellan: Is it sad that I have to think really hard about the answer to that question? :)
ROMSEY Homewood: its all new and exciting! hehe!
Fay Tal: well.. missing poser 7 sl model file download ^^
Chase Marellan: good morning, patch!
Patchouli Woollahra: omg it's a Totorley
Fay Tal: hii patch ^^
Patchouli Woollahra just saw the most horrifying Totoro homage ever a few minutes ago.
Patchouli Woollahra: http://sachsen.deviantart.com/art/TonariNoTotoro-Bus-Stop-57754491
Torley Linden: I've seen that before Patch, you showed me that link.
ROMSEY Homewood: eep! scary!!!
Torley Linden: It was freaky!
Torley Linden: Fay: Are you making poses/animations?
Patchouli Woollahra: well, I'm doing a few.
Patchouli Woollahra: also: patching a couple of open-permed ones into my products.
Fay Tal: trying to, i just reinstalled poser 7 :)
Patchouli Woollahra is also revelling in the fact that glow now works without atmospheric shaders.
Patchouli Woollahra: it's gorgeous, just don't put any other windows on top of SL while you're windowed. it does funky things.
Fay Tal: :P
Torley Linden: Ahhh.
Patchouli Woollahra: which was something that, oddly enough, the previous atmospheric shader was immune to no matter what I did.
Torley Linden: Patch, I've seen that before, but not recently.
Torley Linden: Early glow bugs were severely amusing and seurreal.
Patchouli Woollahra: I know.
Leffard Lassard: Hello.
Patchouli Woollahra: I have a picture of a safety-goggled Fennec in the midst of tons of Fullbright objects.
Patchouli Woollahra: this was back when people still didn't have Glow and just went for a Full-Bright = Full Glow setting.
Patchouli Woollahra: The picture is impossible to do without staging now.
Patchouli Woollahra: sadly.
ROMSEY Homewood: cool! ty :O)
Torley Linden: Safety goggles are fun.
Torley Linden: ROMSEY, thanks for the new Totoro avatar, I've gotta try that out soon.
ROMSEY Homewood: np! gr8 fun making it
Patchouli Woollahra: We need a Horror Totoro avatar for halloween.
Patchouli Woollahra: suddenly I'm glad we don't have any under 18s in here.
Torley Linden: Totorohorror?
Torley Linden: @_@
Patchouli Woollahra: imagine the kids' protests if I walked around with the bloodied remains of several residents in my mouth.
Torley Linden: It'd be cool to hear a death-grindcore metal version of that evil Totoro.
Torley Linden: Presumably those "several residents" are ad farmers?
Torley Linden: ;)
Patchouli Woollahra: ooh, that's a toughie.
Torley Linden: Oh gosh, was that off-color! It got so quiet!
Chase Marellan: I can think of a few to nominate.
Torley Linden: Hahaha.
Patchouli Woollahra: btw, it's great to see Linden Labs finally reclaim responsibility for the way the world is to some extent.
Torley Linden: SL creates both pleasant and awkward situations for human vices (like greed).
Nock Forager: hello everyone!
Chase Marellan: Hi, Nock
Chase Marellan: agreed, Torley
Torley Linden: Patch, yeah, it took some thinking on that... glad you think so... we're on this theme of making the mainland more valuable.
Fay Tal: hi nock :)
Chase Marellan: I like that idea.
Chase Marellan: It'll be a very tough balance, though.
Patchouli Woollahra: the public works department, the retaliation against extortionists on the mainland.
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Patchouli Woollahra: Chase: it edges dangerously close to 'editorial control' too.
Chase Marellan: exactly.
Chase Marellan: For example:
Patchouli Woollahra: At some point, I'm afraid LL may be tested in terms of its legal responsibilities with these new policies.
Patchouli Woollahra pauses.
Torley Linden: Part of the problem that delayed it (in my opinion) was the proliferation of "too many ideas" and possible approaches, there were certainly lots of heated public discussions.
Patchouli Woollahra: But it's not much of a problem if we keep paying our tier and buying stuff with L$.
Chase Marellan: I have a 12,000m piece of property with a mall on it. Right outside of that, there's a huge ad with a naked woman on it, with stars over her naughty bits
Chase Marellan: it's 512, for sale for 18,000L.
Patchouli Woollahra: Chase: you just described Northstar Mall on a bad day.
Chase Marellan: Yeah
Chase Marellan: and it's a PG sim, too.
Patchouli Woollahra: Additional bonus: the woman is a wearable macro furry.
Chase Marellan: so is it indecent? is it obscene? Is it extortion?
Patchouli Woollahra: I dunno about indecent.
Chase Marellan: :) this is an actual photo of a human, though.
Patchouli Woollahra: but I would presume that obscene is whatever gives Socrates an erection though.
Chase Marellan: :)
Torley Linden: @_@
Torley Linden: Patch, have you said that to him?
Torley Linden: Hahahaha.
Torley Linden: I cannot believe I just heard that.
Patchouli Woollahra: I was right next to him.
Chase Marellan: I don't wnat to be the thought police
Moard Ling: So Crates
Chase Marellan: but I gotta think it's extortion.
Torley Linden: "Only in Second Life!" Yeah, some of these, or a lot of these cases are going to be subjective judgment calls, and from the first few decisions, later consistency must be shaped.
Patchouli Woollahra: Either that is extortion, or my mom is a giant totoro with spiked paw gloves.
Torley Linden: There is a difference between "extortion" and "blackmail" tho...
Torley Linden: http://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/white_collar_crimes/extortion_blackmail.htm
Patchouli Woollahra: excuse me, I'm getting pummeled by spiked paws atm elsewhere.
Patchouli Woollahra: (this may or may not affect the validity of my accusation)
Moard Ling: whats the blue collar version ?
Torley Linden: Extortion tends to "carry the threat of unlawful and often violent action if demands are not met".
Torley Linden: Hahaha Moard.
Torley Linden: *is reminded of the difference between libel and slander*
Patchouli Woollahra: so if the action is already being carried out, it's not extortion?
Patchouli Woollahra: also in the news: tons of people screeching for Phillip Linden to have a makeover.
Torley Linden: I'm not a lawyer and don't know if that's always true!
Moard Ling: Is tehere a Rumpole Linden ?
Torley Linden: Rumpole, what is that?
Torley Linden: Haha Patch I saw the Bootleg Phil vid the other day.
Torley Linden: That was a lot of fun.
Moard Ling: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumpole_of_the_Bailey
Torley Linden: I know it's kind of an oldie but... has anyone here seen that/not seen that?
Patchouli Woollahra: if Rumpole cannot be found, he either does not exist presently, or has chosen to delist him or herself for work privacy reasons.
Patchouli Woollahra: Agent Linden does that for national security reasons all the time.
Torley Linden: Oooh an English sort of legal drama...
Torley Linden: Rumpole sounds like a British Matlock!
Torley Linden: Kinda.
Torley Linden: *I like Matlock*
Patchouli Woollahra once sang Secret Agent Linden to him while he was on and behind her.
Torley Linden: I don't think there's a Agent Linden anymore.
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ROMSEY Homewood: afk
Moard Ling: lol to the bootleg
Torley Linden: Hmmm looks like it's a hidden account. :p
Chase Marellan hasn't seen the makeover video
Torley Linden: BOOTLEG PHIL - http://youtube.com/watch?v=6JZSh9o71jQ
Chase Marellan: thx
Patchouli Woollahra: "Secret Agent Liiin-den/ Secret Agent Lin-deeen, They've taken away your number / and given you a sur-naaame"
Torley Linden: Oh YouTube, thank you for all the free videos! Not so many thanx, however, for the low-quality!
Moard Ling: Has everyone seen the VRR
Torley Linden: No Moard, what's that?
Chase Marellan: OK, THAT's funny.
Moard Ling: http://youtube.com/watch?v=tJmnoae0OSQ
Nock Forager: lol, it's funny video :)
Patchouli Woollahra: And now for something more horrifying: Ronald McDonald done to gabba trance in Japanese: http://www.boingboing.net/2008/02/08/insane-ronald-mcdona.html
Moard Ling: Boing boing rokcs :)
Torley Linden: They have wonderful things. ;)
Chase Marellan: Speaking of horrifying, can anybody recommend a good builder for a horror-based build?
Torley Linden: *loads the Ronald*
Torley Linden: Chase, have you seen any horror builds you already liked? I know Grim Misfit has done some rather... grim stuff.
Patchouli Woollahra: I remember a build earlier in SL's life. "Sim Horror".
Torley Linden: Saeya Nyanda has that spooky black/white town.
Torley Linden: Patch, ah yes, Bedazzle!
Torley Linden: I was part of Bedazzle once, many moons ago.
Chase Marellan: I haven't seen any, but granted, I don't get around much.
Patchouli Woollahra: four sims, actual admission prices, a contest and serious players.
Patchouli Woollahra: and shadow bakes!
Torley Linden: Using new Search and looking for horror-related terms... there's a lot of vampire/goth stuff in SL.
Torley Linden: Good memory Patch!
Chase Marellan: Good thought. thanks.
Patchouli Woollahra: back when the average person did NOT have a card that could render local-light very well.
Gellan Glenelg: hi
Chase Marellan: Hi, Gellan
Torley Linden: Yeah, Jimmy Thomson and Foxy Xevious, the shiznit.
Torley Linden: Hiya Gellan!
Torley Linden: HAHAHAHA this Insane Ronald McDonald is GREAT, this is right up my alley!
Torley Linden: It's so hyperkinetic.
Patchouli Woollahra: I have a link to Sinatra Cartier's darkride build.
Patchouli Woollahra: go down after the meeting and throw a few L$ at it with a friend.
Torley Linden: That's a classic too, Patch.
Patchouli Woollahra: very little primmage, but lots of atmosphere.
Torley Linden: I really recommend it... such a ride in a compact space.
Moard Ling: is the ronald thing meant to enocurage you to eat there or take tranqs ?
Torley Linden: It's like a heritage build.
Patchouli Woollahra: DarkDharma Daguerre has a tradition of putting out a horror-themed build every Halloween.
Patchouli Woollahra: Moard, I dunno.
Patchouli Woollahra: they have MP3s to some of the original music, which I took too.
Torley Linden: If you've ever wanted to see someone vomit in time with a beat, watch http://youtube.com/watch?v=rq6Gxl7g7xA but it's GROSS so do not watch if you have a weak stomach!
Patchouli Woollahra: it's catchy.
Torley Linden: Amon Tobin rules.
Patchouli Woollahra: I have it playing next to my fripSide and jun and Allision stuff.
Moard Ling: M advertise a different deli sandwich everyday, in fact tehre ar eonly 5 of them
Torley Linden: Patch: Yeah, DarkDharma has a lot of great horror avatars, from what I understand.
Moard Ling: OMG confirm birthdate on YOuTube!
Torley Linden: Patch, hey, I think you know this... where are some good/fave places to find super-deformed avatars in Second Life? Really cute ones, even cel-shaded ones?
Patchouli Woollahra: you think this is bad, you should see the ad whre ronald mcdonald is a sassy fashion babe.
Torley Linden: I'm looking for avatars in Second Life that could equal or better Hello Kitty MMO cuteness.
Patchouli Woollahra: you know the obvious original Tinies...
Torley Linden: (It's gonna be a tough race, I know!)
Torley Linden: Yup, Tinies are great... how about more Asian-esque stuff?
Patchouli Woollahra: Kyro Krillan's Tardimals are a puke response to them.
Moard Ling: Wierd Shit ?
Torley Linden: Hahaha I saw the Tardimals.
Torley Linden: I have the, uh, awkward crocodile one.
Nock Forager: You can try Osaka SIM. they have tiny only shopping mall.
Patchouli Woollahra: I think I have a USB Witch Tiny.
Torley Linden: Osaka gets brought up a lot, thanks Nock.
Patchouli Woollahra: also: a orange winged bunny.
Torley Linden: Any nice chibi stuff would RULE, including sculptie faces.
Patchouli Woollahra: I've worn them here on two separate occasions.
Moard Ling: Were you at the Linden hugging yesterday Torley ?
Patchouli Woollahra: I'm wearing my latest one this week.
Torley Linden: ROMSEY I really like the flag, it makes me blush!
Patchouli Woollahra: It goes live on sale at tomorrow's Great Toy Gathering.
Torley Linden: I sure was Moard!
Torley Linden: Visited a couple times. :)
Torley Linden: Got lots of hugs!
ROMSEY Homewood: hehe! Torley for President!
Moard Ling: Gte much Action ?
Torley Linden: President of what? :D
Torley Linden: Hehehe.
ROMSEY Homewood: Melons
Torley Linden: Mmmm. Yeah I'm still trying to get the National Watermelon Board into Second Life.
Moard Ling: Valenties mush be SL premium day
Torley Linden: Who else has funny videos they wanna share?
ROMSEY Homewood: wasnt sure if you were rep or dem so i chose melons
Moard Ling: sorry only do maudlin
Torley Linden: Maudlin is fine too actually!
Torley Linden: Hahaha ROMSEY.
Patchouli Woollahra graffitis Torley's table suddenly for a moment!
Torley Linden: I'm not particularly political.
Patchouli Woollahra: This is the poster for tomorrow's Great Toy Gathering.
Torley Linden: If you hate Colonel Sanders, http://youtube.com/watch?v=MwyPI-zKqRs (warning, has graphic violence)
ROMSEY Homewood: only where melons are concerned i hope
Moard Ling: I di a vid but it makes me cry .. http://youtube.com/watch?v=K6aIyjKPrp0
Chase Marellan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFjH4ZqwOB4
Patchouli Woollahra: Torley: I remember a Obilith machinima where KFC stood for "Kill The F---ing Chickin"
Torley Linden: Whoa, Patch, lift that up?
Torley Linden: Who did graphic design on that? Nice fonts.
Torley Linden: Hahaha Patch.
Torley Linden: ROMSEY, great that it's a flexi-flag... ;)
Patchouli Woollahra: Subversive Vavoom, one of SL's earlier doll avatar creators.
Moard Ling: wow that chicken oen real;l ymake sme hungry
Patchouli Woollahra: this is the second gathering. the first was on new year's eve eve last year.
Torley Linden: Haha ROMSEY it looked like you were scratching your back.
ROMSEY Homewood: hehe!
ROMSEY Homewood: i am furry
Moard Ling: "There can be only one"
Patchouli Woollahra: clicking on it gets you a notecard to the event.
GREAT TOY GATHERING II POSTER owned by Patchouli Woollahra gave you 'THE GREAT TOY GATHERING II' ( http://slurl.com/secondlife/Grasmere/172/29/37 ).
Patchouli Woollahra: essentially, it's just a gathering of people who like dressing up as dolls, robots, statues and other man-made men.
Patchouli Woollahra: and women.
Torley Linden: Ohh I've seen some awesome dolls by Subversive.
Patchouli Woollahra: and the occasional Dalek.
Torley Linden: EX-TERMINATE!
Patchouli Woollahra: I wonder how many older residents have the battling Dalek toyset.
Moard Ling: EX-FOLLIATE
Torley Linden: *likes how in the newest WL and RC, the toolbar gradually slides off the screen as you go into Mouselook*
Torley Linden: Patch, who was that toyset made by?
Moard Ling: rumours are Davros is comign back
ROMSEY Homewood: saw the Nekobus from Tororo
Patchouli Woollahra: I'm not aware, Torley. It's been a freebie on the NCi boards for a while.
ROMSEY Homewood: at the RURU club
Torley Linden: OMG, ROMSEY, someone made that in SL?
Torley Linden: OMG I HAVE GOT TO CHECK THAT OUT, have a landmark ROMSEY? :)
ROMSEY Homewood: yes its amazing but not for sale
Patchouli Woollahra: is it a avatar or a vehicle?
Torley Linden: "RURU CLUB diafall"? Or another?
ROMSEY Homewood: Santen Juran is the fellow
Patchouli Woollahra: because the nature of that character makes a ridable nekobus a bit hard.
ROMSEY Homewood: ill find the LM
Torley Linden: Thanks.
Torley Linden: Haha Patch, it'd take some good animated sculptie work.
XLR8RRICK Hudson: hello everyone is this a private meeting
Patchouli Woollahra: can't sit on avatars anymore, can't animate a primset over 31prims in size physically.
Aliana Tomsen: elloo all xD
Patchouli Woollahra: I think we lost something the moment people stoppped being sittable.
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Torley Linden: Hi Aliana!
Torley Linden: Welcome to Watermelinden Land!
Aliana Tomsen: lol ty
Chase Marellan: hi, Aliana, XLR
Patchouli Woollahra: don't mind the graffiti on the table, it's a invite to the great toy gathering tomorrow xD
Torley Linden: I replaced my old greeter here (too spammy) with a new script from Simbad (haha, I like that name). Did anyone have any problems with it?
Torley Linden: Patch, those are awesome glow tubes on your back.
Patchouli Woollahra: thanks, it took me a while to rewire it after the last WL upgrade.
Aliana Tomsen: nice place tho
Chase Marellan: no, problem
Torley Linden: OK thanks. =)
Patchouli Woollahra: there's another issue with the new non-atmospheric shader :(
Torley Linden: What issue?
Chase Marellan: I mean no problem. :)
Patchouli Woollahra: the old glow-behind transparent isn't as punchy anymore.
Patchouli Woollahra: would it hurt to implement both shaders and choose between them depending on how the client was set up? :(
Torley Linden: I think that may've been intentional... or at least, we're making change so GLOW doesn't interfere with HUDs, nametags, etc. eventually.
Patchouli Woollahra: jsut thinking.
Patchouli Woollahra: =sigh=
Torley Linden: In the future we're hoping for a broadened Materials system with different "flavors" of glow, shiny, etc.
Patchouli Woollahra: but that effect was so fricking cool.
Torley Linden: Some of the earliest glow bugs were frickin' cool!
Moard Ling: surely teh viewer can tell you if its drawing a missing page on you ?
Patchouli Woollahra: Oh yeah, The Future is very bright indeed.
Torley Linden: There was one, you resize the screen, and it makes what looks like a glitchy starshower of glow go across the screen.
Torley Linden: Lemme find a photo of it...
Aliana Tomsen: well thanks for the warm welcoming i poof, nice day y'all
Torley Linden: Take care Aliana!
Chase Marellan: Bye Aliana
Patchouli Woollahra: the effects of having to suddenly increase the post-render buffer for glow, I suppose.
Patchouli Woollahra: I've seen that effect on several free or open engines I've played with before. :(
Torley Linden: http://www.flickr.com/photos/torley/813031268/in/set-72157600825345613/
Torley Linden: All those crazy rippled vertical lines, that's a glow bug!
Moard Ling: Is th sudden blackness appearign a knwon bug ?
Torley Linden: Moard, sudden blackness? Describe more?
Patchouli Woollahra: oh yeah, btw, this is the fripside I'm listening to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm4ET5sLKNE
Patchouli Woollahra: most of their music is a touch more depressing, but this is oddly upbeat.
Torley Linden: Haha Patch you and my brother would totally get along on the music front.
Moard Ling: youll be panning aroudn and teh screen will go balck
Torley Linden: Moard, I haven't seen that... I saw *one* odd instance of a hollow top hat I have, its inside went black.
Moard Ling: has only happened on this first look releease
Torley Linden: Hi Jamana and XLR8RRICK!
Jamana Berkmans: greetings
Torley Linden: Friendly greetings!
ROMSEY Homewood: hello :O)
Nock Forager: Hi!
Patchouli Woollahra: poster's an invite to the Great Toy Gathering session tomorrow.
Torley Linden: Patch, I'm surprised someone would attempt an AMV like this, even with the "WinAVI Video Converter" watermark.
Patchouli Woollahra: second in the row. click for a notecard.
Patchouli Woollahra: Torley: eh, Japanese fans can outfanatic the average person, Torley.
Jamana Berkmans: what time is it over in the usa?
Moard Ling: WInAVi lol
Torley Linden: *takes a picture of the poster, it's great graphic design*
Torley Linden: I love those obssesions.
Moard Ling: Virtual dub rocks
Patchouli Woollahra: Subversive ftw.
Torley Linden: Jamana, which time zone? ;) Haha.
Patchouli Woollahra: the first gathering was a bit more wicked.
Jamana Berkmans: mm
Patchouli Woollahra: it was an actual doll box from Imp Merlin.
Patchouli Woollahra: sadly, the girl cashed her chips in a fortnight ago.
Patchouli Woollahra: sold the factory build, disbanded her shop group, sold off the land.
XLR8RRICK Hudson: 6:38 - 9:38 in the usa
Jamana Berkmans: ah
Jamana Berkmans: its starting to get dark here
Patchouli Woollahra: As a bonus, my namesake Patchouli Knowledge is in that AMV at some point.
Patchouli Woollahra: I should do an avatar like that one of these days xD
Moard Ling: anyone bought an av on ebay ?
Torley Linden: I didn't know that was the origin, Patch... how'd you decide on that character?
Torley Linden: Moard, where do they sell avs on eBay?
Moard Ling: i expect tahts whgere i;ll end up when i die RL
Moard Ling: full of no trans stuff
Chase Marellan: for sale on ebay?
XLR8RRICK Hudson: lol Moard
Patchouli Woollahra: It was random.
Moard Ling: preconfgured firends list
Patchouli Woollahra: the name just popped.
Torley Linden: Those are nice hearts coming from your shoes, Harleen.
Nock Forager: (Have to go now, see ya everyone :)
Moard Ling: special @girl folder never used
Patchouli Woollahra: bang, out of nowhere.
Torley Linden: See ya Nock!
Torley Linden: Ahhh.
ROMSEY Homewood: byeeeee
Patchouli Woollahra: I would not buy anything from eBay for SL currently till eBay respects the tangibility of SL products.
Patchouli Woollahra: as well as our concept of permissions.
Chase Marellan: bye Nock
Patchouli Woollahra: there's also the problem that LL's inhouse fraudbreaker systems don't work on L$s traded over eBay.
Moard Ling: So much girl stuff i dont wnat to use/loose
Patchouli Woollahra: if you buy L$ on eBay, and it's fradulent, Zee reserves the right to grab it back off you, plus 50%.
Moard Ling: really .. buy lindens !
Patchouli Woollahra: so you're out for around 250% of the L$ you bought in the worst case.
Patchouli Woollahra: it's a pain really. one almost starts to understand why There officially put a ban on reverse conversions from TBs to US$.
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Torley Linden: Gosh, I wanna sign up for Hello Kitty world.
Patchouli Woollahra: officially - if you know the right people and places, you can do so .
Jamana Berkmans: dang, i still havent made anything yet i have been here for 1 month
Patchouli Woollahra: Torley: you should see Akela's response to that.
Torley Linden: Jamana, what have you tried?
Patchouli Woollahra: "I have no mouth and I must scream"
Torley Linden: Patch, haha on Massively? Or elsewhere?
Torley Linden: LOL...
Jamana Berkmans: houses
Torley Linden: I find there are big successes that come from filling niche needs...
Torley Linden: note the #1-selling product on SLExchange.com right now...
Torley Linden: sculptie templates!
Patchouli Woollahra: Coming from a Linden that makes sense.
Moard Ling: ROMSEY could i have copy of the shoudler bear pls
Patchouli Woollahra: where are those sculptie templates again? ^^;
Chase Marellan: But that's true in most markets.
Torley Linden: Cel Edman made Sculptypaint and some people still found that too hard to use, so it looks like he used it to make packs of sculpties which can be used in a variety of applications.
Chase Marellan: Niche marketing is a huge trend.
Patchouli Woollahra: Chase I know, I just made tier this month from selling chibi androids.
Chase Marellan: There you go.
Patchouli Woollahra: my biggest boost was from yesterday's Valentine's Day.
Torley Linden: http://uncensored.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=551412
Torley Linden: OK, so correct me, it's #2 now, because a Valentine's Day bear is #1. :)
Patchouli Woollahra: 200 Waldina Katarines out the door for L$650 each.
Torley Linden: That sure is a cute bear.
Torley Linden: "If they buy it, you will profit!"
Patchouli Woollahra: I know, but that's the funny thing. it was NOT a Valentine's Day cash-in.
Torley Linden: How do ya mean, Patch?
Torley Linden: I gotta say, these are some smooth lookin' sculpties! http://uncensored.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=images&ItemID=551412
Chase Marellan: Well, my grandfather just got up for the day, so I'm going AFK. Hopefully I'll be back before everbody poofs. If not, have a great day, everbody...
Torley Linden: Take care Chase!
Patchouli Woollahra: I sat in one of the kissing boxes in this avatar.
Torley Linden: Whoa, what in blazes!
Torley Linden: Haha.
Torley Linden: *waits for Patch's whole head to form*
Maniko Manamiko: hi everyone
Patchouli Woollahra: wewt wewt!
Torley Linden: Hiya Maniko!
Maniko Manamiko: hi torley:)
Moard Ling: There were a lot of boxes to sit in
Patchouli Woollahra: everyone loved teh little beating heart inside.
Jamana Berkmans: i think i need more RAM
Tear Thor: Big Fan here Torley
Torley Linden: Aww thanks Tear! :D
Torley Linden: I appreciate you letting me know!
Torley Linden: Where did you hear of me from, Tear?
Patchouli Woollahra: the problem isn't ram. the problem is recent alterations to the way the viewer renders sculptmaps.
Tear Thor: The Blogs
Torley Linden: Ahh.
Patchouli Woollahra: at least one of the Goons is using it to smear Michi Lumin atm.
Moard Ling: They banned youtube at work .... no more tuts at lunctime
Torley Linden: Aw Moard, that's too bad. YouTube can be pretty addictive.
Torley Linden: Patch, what happened with that?
Patchouli Woollahra: something about pushing the team in charge of sculpties to degrade the way they did sculpties so the Luskwood tree could render entirely.
Patchouli Woollahra: I call bullshit.
Patchouli Woollahra: I'm not supposed to do this, but I've looked at some of the textures Michi used, and a lot of them are insanely cheaty - half or even a quarter of what a sculptmap should be actually, and lots of repeats.
Patchouli Woollahra: if you use the same sculptmap repeatedly, you gain some massive efficiencies in most modern video accelerators.
Patchouli Woollahra: just as it is with normal viewed textures.
Torley Linden: Hmmm.
Torley Linden: I haven't been to Lusk in a long time.
Patchouli Woollahra: You should go back there.
Torley Linden: What's the net result of Michi doing this? Faster performance?
Patchouli Woollahra: Michi is perversely insane about efficiencies in cute the way Totorley is insane about chestnuts flavered with watermelonz.
Torley Linden: Hahahaha.
Torley Linden: Michi's very observant, I do know that.
Patchouli Woollahra: she's ben here since almost day one. she'd be one of those residents who was drilled into respecting what a sim could do.
Patchouli Woollahra: and remember, this was on a Class 1 or 2 in the first place.
Patchouli Woollahra: They don't make simulator servers like those anymore.
Torley Linden: "There is no Class 6!" -Jack Linden... hahaha.
Torley Linden: ;)
Torley Linden: But seriously, yeah,
Torley Linden: I remember reading Michi's early posts on the forums way back.
Torley Linden: And how she went into great detail about analyzing sim stats.
Patchouli Woollahra: She's even borrowed some teleportation technology from Data Linden to make bouncing around more easy.
Patchouli Woollahra: it's still experimental though.
Fay Tal: hehe class 6 would rock when it does finaly come
Patchouli Woollahra walked in one day to find half the platform covered in jello.
Patchouli Woollahra: my first thought was "Data hasn't fixed THAT problem yet, I see"
XLR8RRICK Hudson: lol someone just told me they bought a lot in a class 6 sim LOL
Patchouli Woollahra: I fear that without improvements in what a single region is capable of, a Class 6 will probably amount to more regions on the same simulator, XLR8RRICK.
Jamana Berkmans: do you need to have a premium membership to enter the forums?
Patchouli Woollahra: Not really.
Patchouli Woollahra: the premium membership only entitles you to hold your first 512sqm of mainland free for as long as the fee is paid up.
Patchouli Woollahra: as well as L$300 a week in stipends.
Gellan Glenelg: jamana, I think you just need payment info on file
Patchouli Woollahra: depending on your age, that stipend may be larger.
Torley Linden: Has anyone seen that movie, Jumper? Loosely based on a novel... about human teleportation.
Jamana Berkmans: thanx :_D
Patchouli Woollahra: due to abuses of the First Land sociological engineering programme, they had to remove the right to buy First Lands.
Tear Thor: What about the mule some never got?
ROMSEY Homewood: not yet, looks interesting
XLR8RRICK Hudson: no I havent
Torley Linden: I remember "flipping plots"!
Patchouli Woollahra: Torley: I was about to make a spoof poster.
Fay Tal: not yet, will probably wait for dvd to come out
Patchouli Woollahra: "Sweater: Everywhere Is Cold"
Torley Linden: HAHAHA.
Torley Linden: OMG, that sounds LOLarious.
Torley Linden: I'm on Netflix...
Torley Linden: I like Netflix a lot.
Torley Linden: I know it isn't international tho.
Torley Linden: And by "international", I mean, "outside the US".
Patchouli Woollahra: I know, I also haven done that Hyper-Incredible Power-Punching Linden Operatives movie poster yet.
Patchouli Woollahra: HIPPLO-Zord FTW.
Jamana Berkmans: i am experiencing slow fps
Patchouli Woollahra is still trying to figure out how to do a Philip Zordon floaty head in a tube.
Moard Ling: anybody get sick whilst watching cloverfield ?
Patchouli Woollahra: I never get sick of watching Blumfield.
Torley Linden: Moard, I didn't see that, just read spoilers.
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Torley Linden: I'd like to find a way to better do hand-held cam simulation in Sony Vegas movie editor tho.
XLR8RRICK Hudson: Jamana you may friend me and I will help you after this meeting
Patchouli Woollahra: take higher-rez video, keep panning around it repeatedly.
Patchouli Woollahra: better done in Shake or After Effects, or another NLE with a good ability at handling panning around video fast.
Jamana Berkmans: thanks
Torley Linden: *nod* I may just get the NewBlueFX pack, they rock.
Torley Linden: Wish Shake was on Windows too. :p
Patchouli Woollahra: as I was saying, I made tier yesterday in one shot.
Torley Linden: I don't like After Effects/Premiere UI...
Patchouli Woollahra: 200 of this avatar at L$650 each.
Moard Ling: *waits for youtube to be broadcastable quality*
Torley Linden: Wow really Patch? You're doing excellent!
Torley Linden: Moard, I'd like that too. H.264 high-qual!
Patchouli Woollahra: Torley: neither do I, but it's the 600-tonne elephant in the room.
Torley Linden: Patch, where's your main store?
Patchouli Woollahra: in Leafminer.
Torley Linden: "ChibiMekas Display Store"?
Torley Linden: *checks your picks*
Patchouli Woollahra: that would be it, yes xD
Torley Linden: Sorry ROMSEY I don't exchange friendships on this account but send a friendship request to Torley Olmstead. =o)
Patchouli Woollahra: I apologise for the shop, it was a poor build compared to my avatars.
Torley Linden: It's OK Patch, you're not alone there. :)
Patchouli Woollahra: and when I have the time, I will personally tear TheWorldOf a new one.
Patchouli Woollahra: Damned Woozls.
Torley Linden: Patch, which sculptie apps do you prefer?
Patchouli Woollahra: no wonder the fennec in my house acts up so racist everytime she finds a woozl on a help line.
Patchouli Woollahra: Torley: I'm a devout Lightwaver. 10 years' experience.
Patchouli Woollahra provided a touch of work for a month on BSG Razor.
Torley Linden: Oooh.
Patchouli Woollahra: which is kinda funny - Lightwave came to prominence for its use on some earlier space warfare dramas.
Torley Linden: Way cool.
Moard Ling: Lightwaver ... is taht jar jar binks society
Patchouli Woollahra: but if you're starting from scratch...
Torley Linden: Babylon 5!
Patchouli Woollahra: I recommend modo from Luxology instead.
Torley Linden: I'm glad you can impart more of your skills into SL via Sculpties.
Torley Linden: Modo looks like it has a really nice UI, I haven't used it yet.
Patchouli Woollahra: they don't have a dongle key requirement.
Patchouli Woollahra: they have a fetish for vidtuts that makes Torley look like Tateru.
Torley Linden: Dongles irk me.
Moard Ling: They wer so crless with al the Babylons
Patchouli Woollahra: and for the bonus? Imagemagick rocks for seamless texture autogen if you have Photoshop CS3 and modo.
Torley Linden: *checks it out*
Patchouli Woollahra: http://www.luxology.com
Patchouli Woollahra: The company's hardcore is essentially exiled Lightwave Modeler programmers and designers.
Torley Linden: I haven't heard of ImageMagick before but I severely recommend Filter Forge for texture-making... http://www.filterforge.com
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Patchouli Woollahra: and it shows in their emphasis on modelling and textures.
XLR8RRICK Hudson: modo is rich
Dizzy Banjo zooms in at the last minute !
Chase Marellan is back and glad he didn't miss everything.
Chase Marellan: Hi, Dizzy!
Patchouli Woollahra: hewwo Dizzy.
Torley Linden: Heya Dizzy!
Dizzy Banjo: :D
Torley Linden: You're here for the endgame, muhahaa.
Dizzy Banjo: hehe
Patchouli Woollahra: it's good it's good.
Torley Linden: I'm surprised not more Residents use/talk about Filter Forge.
Moard Ling: dont see a prcie on modo
Patchouli Woollahra: US$899.
Chase Marellan: hehehehe.
Moard Ling: *coughs*
Dizzy Banjo: btw.. that windlight freezey nastyness seems to be alot better with this release Torley
Patchouli Woollahra: if you're a student, you can get it for around US$150
Moard Ling: is that Linden
Torley Linden: Dizzy, good to know.
Patchouli Woollahra: if you're a GREAT student, (grades above 4.0 on average), you get a US$50 dollar discount.
Chase Marellan: Torley: might be because you need Photoshop, and that's, what, $600?
Torley Linden: Hahaha, oh that's great.
Torley Linden: Chase, no, Filter Forge works standalone too.
Dizzy Banjo: i got one of these toyz things...
Torley Linden: And there are cheaper versions of it too.
Dizzy Banjo: hey have you seen a.viary ?
Patchouli Woollahra: and if you're a bloody pirate, you get throttled by me very very hard.
Torley Linden: Basic Edition's $80... http://www.filterforge.com/buy/
Patchouli Woollahra: no, really.
Dizzy Banjo: http://a.viary.com/
Jamana Berkmans: crash
Torley Linden: No, Dizzy?
Torley Linden: *checks it out*
Dizzy Banjo: its super cool
Patchouli Woollahra: dongles happen because idiots pirate the software and make it hard for them to earn a living.
Patchouli Woollahra: and what happens?
Dizzy Banjo: gotta admit i found a link to it from Cory's blog :S
Torley Linden: *requests an invitation*
Patchouli Woollahra: the dongle adds around US$200-700 a seat.
Moard Ling sticks with PaintShopPro and thick crayons
Torley Linden: Wow, that's an awesome front page.
Torley Linden: Sure catches my eye.
Dizzy Banjo: its like a slimmed down PS but all online
Torley Linden: Thanks Dizzy, this looks rockin'!
Dizzy Banjo: lots of other tools in there i think
Torley Linden: I like how easy webapps are to install. ;)
Torley Linden: Convenient.
Patchouli Woollahra: if I had my way, pirates who stole people's work would be hung from the mizzenmast at noon.
Patchouli Woollahra pauses... thinks...
Dizzy Banjo: but the invite only gets you onto the graphics program
Patchouli Woollahra: Arr.
Dizzy Banjo: lol patch
Chase Marellan: :)
Torley Linden: Hmmm is that because the other stuff isn't ready yet, or some other reason, Dizzy?
Dizzy Banjo: you have to "produce something cool" to get onto the other demos
Torley Linden: Hmmm... a new way of "levelling up" I see!
Torley Linden: ;)
Dizzy Banjo: but yeah probably not ready yet.. lol
Dizzy Banjo: i wanted to try the music software
Torley Linden: I bet!
Patchouli Woollahra: that's one way of separating the wannabees from the actual artists.
Patchouli Woollahra: hey, Dizzy, remember that product sketch I sent you on your rezday?
Moard Ling: isn't there a nerw pirate MUD starting
Dizzy Banjo: oh yeah
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Patchouli Woollahra: hehe.
Dizzy Banjo: lol
Jamana Berkmans: vacation starting tommorow
Moard Ling: SIde Meier rocks
Patchouli Woollahra: I really have a wierd design process.
Dizzy Banjo: its very true to the sketch
Patchouli Woollahra: Come up with a personality, come up with a color, come up with a body, come up with toys.
Dizzy Banjo has commissioned Patchouli to produce an avatar for one of his mysterious alts.. lol
Patchouli Woollahra: shhh.
Torley Linden: "Flash-Player based 3D modeller", geez, they sure are getting advanced!
Fay Tal: yay the sl model files are back ^^
Dizzy Banjo: as only her amazing imagination can produce...
Moard Ling: i put loads of rnadom stuff in fodlers and where the folder, soem stuff klnock sothe rstuff off
Patchouli Woollahra: I'm trying to think about it.
Patchouli Woollahra: but the idea of the avatar carrying around a giant iPod Shuffle is not working.
Torley Linden: Ohhh VERY interesting that Aviary was made by Worth1000...
Torley Linden: that makes so much sense!
Dizzy Banjo: yeh they seem an interesting bunch
Torley Linden: Worth1000, for anyone who didn't already know, has lots of Photoshop contests.
Dizzy Banjo: some of the demo videos are great
Torley Linden: I gotta root down and check s'more out soon.
Patchouli Woollahra: http://allwomenstalk.com/wp-content/thumbs/47211.jpg <-- Imagine the iPod that goes with this.
Jamana Berkmans: dang, i wasnt here on valentine's day, what actually happened?
Torley Linden: I'm going to go for now, but it's been a fun office hour! I'll be back here at 2 PM PST... thanks for visiting me!
Torley Linden: Jamana: LOVE.
Patchouli Woollahra: FIVE HUNDRED TIMES LARGER
Dizzy Banjo: lol patch
Moard Ling: loads of kissing
Tear Thor: Bye Torley
Patchouli Woollahra: poor Jamana.
Moard Ling: bear fren zy
Gellan Glenelg: bye torley
Jamana Berkmans: bye
Moard Ling: lollipops
Dizzy Banjo: cyas Torley
Patchouli Woollahra starts humming "I Kissed A Linden"
Chase Marellan: bye!
Torley Linden: Friendly goodbye for now! =)
Patchouli Woollahra: http://www.myspace.com/thehappybunnygarden
Moard Ling: did you kiss one Pat ?
XLR8RRICK Hudson: T C Torley

2 PM

Torley Linden: Friendly greetings!
Torley Linden: :D
Daedalus Young: hi Torley!
Chase Euler: I was about to ask if this was the right place for Torley's office hours, but judging by the 3d migraine that I seem to have appeared in, it is :)
Torley Linden: Oh wow look who's here already!
KMeist Hax: yay it's torley, desu
Yeti Bing: hi torley!
AlexanderThe Benelli: Ahh
fr43k Paine: woohoo, hello Torley! :D
Tegg Bode: Hi Torley
Gwendolyn Cassini: hey our big friend mr Torley himself :) <3
Torley Linden: This is fantastic... !
AlexanderThe Benelli: Hi torley
Gwendolyn Cassini: Hi Torley :D
Daedalus Young: cool new Dazzle tuts
nokithecat Writer: Halllooooo
AlexanderThe Benelli: main pink
Dakota Tebaldi: Hi Torley
AlexanderThe Benelli: trim pink
AlexanderThe Benelli: main green
Torley Linden: Thanks Daed! Sharp eye on that... I'm going to be making a blog post announcement about Dazzle, hopefully next week...
AlexanderThe Benelli: trim red
Torley Linden: Great to see you all here!
Gwendolyn Cassini: :)
Tegg Bode: You might need to move to a private island so you can have more than 40 guests :)
Torley Linden: Also expanding my involvement in video tutorials, there's gonna be a LOT more...
Torley Linden: Hehe Tegg!
Gwendolyn Cassini: Loved the last tut :)
Tegg Bode: Gday Mate!
Torley Linden: Thanks Gwendolyn!
Torley Linden: G'day!
Gwendolyn Cassini: thanks Torley for showing us that
AlexanderThe Benelli: main dkgreen
Torley Linden: So many ways to meet and greet.
Summer Seale: hi torley =)
Torley Linden: Aye, yeah, since 2004 I've been asked about uploading sounds...
Gwendolyn Cassini: your avi is even cuter than in the tuts :D
Torley Linden: it wasn't very clear in text alone.
Torley Linden: *smiles*
Torley Linden: And by all means, any video tutorial suggestions, please let me know. In the near future I'll be covering SLURLs too.
AlexanderThe Benelli: Torley, why are u doing the basic tuts in the CSI:NY viewer ?
Torley Linden: That's another topic, how to use them.
Al Sonic: Search got your place back again =)
AlexanderThe Benelli: Or wasnt it the electric sheep viewer?
Torley Linden: Alexander: It isn't the CSI:NY viewer, it's the new Dazzle refresh...
KMeist Hax: it's not the Onrez viewer, desu
AlexanderThe Benelli: ahh..kk
Torley Linden: For now, see: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Dazzle but that's kind of outdated.
Squirrel Wood: Pink and green greetings, Torley ^^
Torley Linden: And reason why I'm doing them in Dazzle, is because eventually we'll transition to it, and I didn't want the Basics tutorials to go stale too quickly.
Torley Linden: Haha pink and green greetings to you, Squirrel!
Gwendolyn Cassini: ohh you are going to change the looks of the viewer?
Torley Linden: Gwendolyn, yes. Nothing *majorly different* yet but it's a refresh, and a long-needed one at that...
KMeist Hax: we should have some of the video tutorials on Help Island and the welcome areas, desu
Daedalus Young: the RC already has newer artwork
Daedalus Young: on the no-push and no-build icons, for example
Torley Linden: Yeah, as Daed points out, we're already enroute to a transition...
Torley Linden: *looks up at those icons*
Torley Linden: Hippo bless Brent Linden for his art.
Gwendolyn Cassini: :) although I think the viewer is just fine, I like the fresh look of the new one though
Torley Linden: Brent's been doing a lot of the new art...
Torley Linden: it's minty fresh!
Torley Linden: Haha.
Torley Linden: I'm going to be doing community communication for Dazzle, so whatever blog comments, Issue Tracker reports, etc. come up, I'll corral them for Team Dazzle.
AlexanderThe Benelli: I like the new windlight/rc look, but dazzle looks even cooler (just downloading the files to play with it l8er)
Torley Linden: You can always feel free to let me know directly at my office hours too.
Gwendolyn Cassini: Torley do you know when Havok 4 will be released in main grid? I have a friend who is dying to know
Torley Linden: Alexander, hehe, those files may not work anymore, but hopefully we'll have Dazzle out in First Look soon enough.
Summer Seale: torley, i had a small suggestion for you just to see what you think before i jira it. and also an invitation for tomorrow for a big event. but i'll wait my turn. =)
KMeist Hax: gwendolyn you're talking to the wrong linden, desu
Torley Linden: Gwendolyn, Havok 4 is currently being rolled out on a gradual basis! So it's happening *right now* but in waves.
Torley Linden: Sidewinder and Andrew Linden can tell ya more about Havok 4.
AlexanderThe Benelli: :-/
Torley Linden: Summer, okay, what's your idea? :)
Summer Seale: ok
Gwendolyn Cassini: ok ill tell my friend that
Marianne McCann: Hiya
AlexanderThe Benelli: Mhh.....just go to the havok4 office hr next time *g*
fr43k Paine: Hi Marianne
Torley Linden: Hehe yes, they can tell you a lot... gosh they haven't listed their office hour on the main Office Hours page.
Gwendolyn Cassini: but Dazzle in the new first look? will WL be in the first look still?
Summer Seale: in the non-windlight/rc version of graphics preferences, you used to have input boxes. ilove the sliders, but input boxes were so much faster for like particle count and draw distance when trying to go accuratly back and forth. maybe you can add that again? just a suggestion.
AlexanderThe Benelli: They have, found it there i think...
KMeist Hax: maybe a double click gives you an input box, desu?
Torley Linden: Summer, hmmm yeah we tried to streamline that without looking so cluttered.
Summer Seale: i't's not a biggie, just thought i'd mention it
Summer Seale nods np =)
Torley Linden: Or even if clicking on the far right turns it into an input box...
Torley Linden: I know a lot of audio plugins do that.
Torley Linden: (I'm referring to VST plugins, e.g., kvraudio.com)
Tasty Tiramisu: (i'm back)
Torley Linden: Welcome back!
Tasty Tiramisu: friendly greetings Torley
Gwendolyn Cassini: welcome back Tasty, i hope your coffee tastes well?
Torley Linden: Friendly greetings!
Summer Seale: the other is an invitation to Raglan Shire, the tinies community. we're having a huge mardi gras parade and celebration, i believe at 12SL tomorrow in the day. if you can make it, i think you would have some fun. they even built a little french quarter for it. the invite is for anyone here and everywhere btw.
Torley Linden: Mmm coffee, I had coffee with cereal this morning. Ran out of milk so used cereal and creamer instead. Won't be a regular occurrence.
Gwendolyn Cassini: hahahaha
Torley Linden: Oh sure Summer, do you have an invitation texture or landmark?
Tegg Bode: lol
Marianne McCann: Cool - always enjoy my visits to Raglan Shire, even if I feel kinda tall there
Summer Seale: ya i think so. i'll check and give it to you
Squirrel Wood: coffee + vanilla flavored milk ^^
Torley Linden: It's been a long time since I was at Raglan... thanks for letting me know!
Summer Seale: ihave land in raglan that i'm making into a park
KMeist Hax: i like raglan shire, everywhere else in SL seems so big, desu
Gwendolyn Cassini only use soy insted of milk (im intolerant of milk)
Squirrel Wood: and hazelnut flavor is good too
Summer Seale: ya i figured you might enjoy it. the invitation is for everyone =)
Summer Seale: let me check the invites
Shirley Marquez: do you mean the people are big, or the things are big, or both?
KMeist Hax: both, desu
Summer Seale: found he sign
Summer Seale gave you Tiny MARDI GRAS sign.
Torley Linden: Thanks got it!
Summer Seale: have to rez it tho
Summer Seale: anyone else want it?
Shirley Marquez: I think that people make buildings huge because the camera angles are so difficult if you make them a realistic size
Torley Linden: It's a long weekend this weekend, at least in the US, eh?
KMeist Hax: yeah, dsu
Al Sonic: The latest Windlight sure seems to be the visually glitchy one, what with the Planar mapping errors and sculpt preview problems.
KMeist Hax: I have an attachment that changes the camera angle for all avatars, desu
Torley Linden: Shirley, yeah, that strikes me as true too... I'm going to do a video tutorial showing navigation in tight spaces. Mouselook helps some... but I agree about the proportions.
Marianne McCann: I tink dat's kinda true, Shirley. I know I have a heck of a time with dat. Part of it is avatar default sizes, though I think
Torley Linden: Al: Sadly so! Planar mapping should be fixed in the next update BUT... I didn't know about the sculpt preview probs? Is there an Issue Tracker # for that?
Torley Linden: I should make sure that gets looked at, if it already isn't being taken care of.
Al Sonic: Yep, just made one.
Shirley Marquez: not just that... but if the walls are too close it's hard to get a good view
Torley Linden: Oh thanks Al, gimme da link and I'll make sure Team WindLight has a look.
Tegg Bode: Yes got to allow for cameras, I use 10m ceiling heights, it's also easy to do positioning in steps of 10 :)
Torley Linden: =o)
KMeist Hax: yeah, desu...
Marianne McCann: How close it Windlight to RC, Torley? We counting the weeks or the days?
Torley Linden: And avatars themselves are relatively tall, like the average height here is like, 6 meters I think.
Marianne McCann: is
Gwendolyn Cassini: hahaha 6 meters? nah 2,5 at most
Shirley Marquez: not THAT big -- 6 to 7 feet, not meters
Torley Linden: Mari: Weeks. But shouldn't be longer than early Q208.
KMeist Hax: you can't make avatars smaller than around 5 feet without tinyAV AOs, desu
Torley Linden: Oohs, FEET.
Torley Linden: Thanks for the correction.
Summer Seale: lol
Torley Linden: I moved from Canada to US and it shows!
Torley Linden: ;)
Gwendolyn Cassini got a tiny joey avatar somewhere in my inv
Al Sonic: Ah here it is again. http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-4959
Tegg Bode: I'ts just a bit like old castles with their high ceilings
Marianne McCann: /my avatar is 3' 9" according to the freebie ruers, an is the shortest before AOs
Daedalus Young: I always found it odd SL measures things in meters
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Daedalus Young: I'd expect feet and inches and stones
Summer Seale: i like meters. it makes more sense
AlexanderThe Benelli: löl
CeeJay Tigerpaw: Most of the world uses meters
Daedalus Young: makes more sense to me too
AlexanderThe Benelli: Its SI units
Torley Linden: Gosh that looks like crap, Al... OK... thanks. *bookmarked*
Summer Seale: and i'm american through and through =)
KMeist Hax: why not, I mean the US is the only country in the world that still uses feet, desu
Daedalus Young: I'm brought up with meters
Summer Seale: england isn't on imperial still?
Summer Seale: i thought they kinda were for some things
CeeJay Tigerpaw: Someone should make an avatar that has meters (electric meters) instead of feet ...
Shirley Marquez: no... except that they still use miles per hour
KMeist Hax: somewhat, desu
Gwendolyn Cassini: lol thats why I think 10 meter walls are absurd, who makes walls that is as large as at least 5 people standing on top of eachothers shoulders
Summer Seale: i love my 10 meter wall spaces *grins*
Torley Linden: Hey, I want to toss out a wild idea, not that it'll be guaranteed to happen... but out of curiosity... what do you guys think of a Linden building contest, where Lindens must come inworld and build stuff, then have pictures posted to the blog and a vote done by Residents?
Chase Euler: we drink in pints and drive in miles, but everything else seems to have gone metric over here in the UK
KMeist Hax: seems like a good idea, desu
Summer Seale: lol good idea torley =)
Gwendolyn Cassini: england changed into metric system about 12 years ago
Marianne McCann: Sounds good, Torley. Heh... seehow well they do!
Shirley Marquez: sounds like fun, Torley
KMeist Hax: as posted in the DPW announcement, lindens don't make nearly enough content, desu
Summer Seale: i think it's fun but they might not enjoy it =)
CeeJay Tigerpaw: Good idea, Torley.
Torley Linden: (I didn't come up with the idea, it came from an experienced dev whose opinion and ideas I respect a lot, but interested in what you think...)
Daedalus Young: yeah, sounds fun
Tegg Bode: lol having grown up with both metric and imperial, got to say metric is less complicated and can't wait till Imperial dissappears, sick of having 2 sets of spanners for differen country vehicles :)
CeeJay Tigerpaw: There should be forfeits for the losing contestants, too.
AlexanderThe Benelli: yep, drink&drive is imperial stuff, the rest is meters now :P
CeeJay Tigerpaw: Something like a dunking stool.
Torley Linden: Haha what kind of forfeits?
Gwendolyn Cassini: good thin g Torley
Summer Seale: you might get stale donuts thrown at you in the office for suggesting it =)
fr43k Paine: Yea great idea, we host similar events, it`s fun :-)
Gwendolyn Cassini: just dont mention wich linden build which buidling
KMeist Hax: lol desu
Daedalus Young: oh and I'd love to see a contest with a grand prize of being added to the Linden Department of Public Works :)
Gwendolyn Cassini: although if you would make anything i think itll be hard to miss LOL
Shirley Marquez: I'm sad that I was busy yesterday and missed the Linden kissing booth
Torley Linden: This dev and I agreed that many Lindens don't really experience the day-to-day woes and bugs in the build tools and elsewhere.
nokithecat Writer: / I sure like the colors in the windlight client, they make for very nice pictures. (^_^) But with the latest windlight my map takes about 2 minutes to open each time. I hope some one can fix it in a future update!
Torley Linden: Hahahaha Daed.
Summer Seale: it's a good idea
Summer Seale: omg!
Daedalus Young: number 5 is alive!
Summer Seale: number five alive!
Torley Linden: Aw Shirley, it was very fun and active there!
Gumby Roffo: soz
CeeJay Tigerpaw: Five is alive!!
Torley Linden: HAHAHAHA. Mmm Short Circuit.
Torley Linden: OK thanks for the feedback.
Gumby Roffo: Morning/evening all
Gumby Roffo: G'day Torley
Torley Linden: nokithecat, out of curiosity, is this only in WindLight? Or the RC viewer too?
Summer Seale: i'll brb gonna afk a few mins. i do love the idea, torley =) great av, gumby =)
Gwendolyn Cassini: oh Shirley me too, I always wanted to kiss certain lindens hahaha
Torley Linden: Mmmm.
Marianne McCann: Oh - Torley. Didja know the pretty stars in yer water are a boating hazard? I tink there non-phantom
nokithecat Writer: This is only in the last 2 windlight client updates
CeeJay Tigerpaw: Torley, did you know the server that has the SURL to watermelindon land is off-line?
Torley Linden: CeeJay, aw crap, which SLURL?
Torley Linden: Thanks for letting me know.
CeeJay Tigerpaw: I couldn't get here from the Linden office-hours page.
Torley Linden: Mari: Oh my gosh, let me check...
nokithecat Writer: I have to use the regular client to get around SL
Shirley Marquez: snipr.com/torley
Gwendolyn Cassini: i used Torleys profile instead
CeeJay Tigerpaw: http://snipr.com/torley
KMeist Hax: I tried to TP here from OI, actually, just remembering you have office hours on friday, and I realized you can't look at the map or TP out from OI, desu :D
Torley Linden: Stars are phantom now, thanks...
Shirley Marquez: that's the pointer on the wiki page
Marianne McCann: Dat's my boat down there. I was sailin it over an hit them
CeeJay Tigerpaw: I also used the provile.
Torley Linden: Thanks Shirley and CeeJay, I should replace that...
Marianne McCann: Yer welcome - thankoo!
CeeJay Tigerpaw: but it took me embarrassingly long to think of it.
Torley Linden: Use http://torley.com/office , it should be more reliable. Snipr.com was nice for awhile but they're having problemos!
Shirley Marquez: I found the location on the Google Calendar and typed it into the map
Torley Linden: Where did you see the http://snipr.com/torley URL?
Gwendolyn Cassini: on the office hours page
Shirley Marquez: on the wiki page for office hours
CeeJay Tigerpaw: I have a bookmarked site of all the office hours.
CeeJay Tigerpaw: That is the one.
Torley Linden: AHH yes I see that.
Torley Linden: OK, replacing it nowwww...
Torley Linden: Your watchfulness is really appreciated!
Gwendolyn Cassini: Torley that had thats above the water, is that the same hat used in your Melon Snow video?
CeeJay Tigerpaw: (Tiger wags finger at Torley)
CeeJay Tigerpaw: Not watchful, just fell into an empty URL.
Gwendolyn Cassini: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE0oymCrwg
Torley Linden: Hahahaha.
Marianne McCann: I actually have been having fun trying my hand at border crossings lately, an finding them to no be nearly as bad as they have been
Torley Linden: Oh my gosh I have another funny video coming up soon...
Torley Linden: Gwen, WHY YES IT IS!!!!
Gwendolyn Cassini: wow 13 new video's at your youtube
Torley Linden: Except the one near the piano is much much bigger.
Gwendolyn Cassini: cant wait to see it Torley
nokithecat Writer gave you Avilion Isle SunSet! ,,,=^_^=,,,.
CeeJay Tigerpaw: SL should be an adventure: Border crossings make it so. <grins cynically>
KMeist Hax: lol desu
nokithecat Writer gave you Avilion Nexus ~ Haunting.
Marianne McCann: Recent travels through this area, by boat: http://community.livejournal.com/second_lifers/647107.html
Daedalus Young: you can do a tutorial "how to attend a Linden office hour?" :P
Torley Linden: I hope to accelerate video tutorial production soon with no loss in quality. ;) Part of it is that video tutorials are becoming a bigger work focus, partially dependent on if the company sees them as "valuable" so you watching them and feedback means a LOT!
Gwendolyn Cassini: :)
Torley Linden: nokithecat, these are wonderfully atmospherics.
Shirley Marquez: what hardware and software do you use to make the TuTORials? Maybe that could be the subject of one?
nokithecat Writer: Yes windlight is very nice (^_^) many options
KMeist Hax: I should build a "Torley Tutorial Viewer" object for easy inworld viewing, desu
Gwendolyn Cassini: oh he covered that in his personal blog
AlexanderThe Benelli: Mhh...torley..i think its a vista bug, but not sure: My default browser is FireFox, every programm opens links in FF,,,,just SL loves to open them in IE every time.....
Tegg Bode: Maybe we need bigger sims to have less border crossings :)
Gwendolyn Cassini: last month blog post
Torley Linden: Shirley, ahhh in the past I've detailed my computer setup, software is mentioned here: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Torley_Linden/Vidtut_process
Shirley Marquez: thank you, Torley!
Torley Linden: The problem with making a video tutorial about making video tutorial is recursion, I need to find a good way to tape me taping... if that makes sense.
Torley Linden: And you're welcome Shirley.
Marianne McCann: Oh - an I hafta ask for my brother. He wants the gesture from your last TutTORial
Torley Linden: Heheh KMeist. :D
nokithecat Writer gave you Tazz Babii ~ Avilion Nexus.
Daedalus Young: /boom
KMeist Hax: then you'll have to make a video tutorial about making a video tutorial about making a video tutorial, desu
Torley Linden: Alexander: Hmmm... not sure why that is happening, but it's frustrating it isn't easier to pick a default browser.
Gwendolyn Cassini: yeah that gesture was awesome :DDD
Torley Linden: HAHAHAH KMeist.
Torley Linden: LOL!!!!
Torley Linden: Beatboxing is fun.
AlexanderThe Benelli: Anybody got the same problem? (SL ignoring the setting for the default browser?)
Gwendolyn Cassini: yep got the same problem
Torley Linden: That's one thing I love about being unrehearsed, spontaneity just comes out, I had no idea it'd turn out so well with the reversed laser raindrops.
Daedalus Young: SL picks the right browser on Mac OS X for me
Chase Euler: it works for me okay
Gwendolyn Cassini: I just love my Firefox, but it keeps picking IE
Torley Linden: Alexander, has uninstalling and reinstalling SL helped at all?
Al Sonic: Hey has any Linden been tweaking the glow? 'Cause I think glow is looking more pixelly than before.
Shirley Marquez: I found a problem in WindLight recently (not sure how many other viewers it affects) -- a big lag spike whenever get one of those "Your Friend is online" popups
CeeJay Tigerpaw: Ditto for me on a Mac -- I use Safari.
Daedalus Young: I use Opera on Mac
KMeist Hax: in b4 the video tutorial gesture becomes popular everywhere, desu
Torley Linden: Al, hmmm it looked pixelly in very early builds and there are Debug Settings to control it... not sure why it'd look pixelly before now (I haven't seen it).
AlexanderThe Benelli: Mhh... i think its an issue with all slclients+vista
Summer Seale: i actually use IE as my default browser for SL, because my firefox has so many permanent tabs open that it takes longer to load. so i use IE for a quick click in SL and save the link to FF later if iwant to save it. =)
Gwendolyn Cassini: what about the big circles you'd see if you have your draw to big in windlight, is that fixed already?
Torley Linden: Oh yes Shirley, I think that's in RC as well, the older ones, have you tried the newest RC?
Torley Linden: Very hot bug, Shirley.
Torley Linden: Gwen, the circles in the sky were a bug with Sky Mesh Detail, that's fixed.
Jacek Antonelli gave you Gift for Torley from Jacek (rez me).
Daedalus Young: I'm happy to have captured the sky circles on Snapzilla back then :)
Tasty Tiramisu: it seems SL has several ways of starting a browser, sometimes as an independant process, sometimes as a child process
Shirley Marquez: haven't tried the latest RC yet.. but I"m betting that there will be a new Windlight soon that has that code
AlexanderThe Benelli: Mhh....i stopped counting, but even after the aprox 20th reinstall no change :P
Torley Linden: Yes, there'll be a WindLight soon based on RC2...
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Heart Print - Rt/Click - Wear: Can't create object 'Left Print' because the parcel 'Video Tutorials @ Torley's Watermelinden Land of Happy' at Grasmere 164.858, 35.4616 is full.
nokithecat Writer: (^_^) Yaaay!
Al Sonic: Hmm, well, nevermindit, I'm not seeing it right now.
AlexanderThe Benelli: Any1 knows if there is a jira# for the browser issue?
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Heart Print - Rt/Click - Wear: Can't create object 'Left Print' because the parcel 'Video Tutorials @ Torley's Watermelinden Land of Happy' at Grasmere 164.327, 32.7004 is full.
Heart Print - Rt/Click - Wear: Can't create object 'Left Print' because the parcel 'Video Tutorials @ Torley's Watermelinden Land of Happy' at Grasmere 163.995, 32.1079 is full.
Heart Print - Rt/Click - Wear: Can't create object 'Left Print' because the parcel 'Video Tutorials @ Torley's Watermelinden Land of Happy' at Grasmere 163.973, 29.5908 is full.
Marianne McCann: To be honest, I dun much use the regular viewer anymore. 99.44% of my SL time is on Windlight
Torley Linden: Alexander, I *think* so, I've heard similar reports before.
Gwendolyn Cassini: so Torley, are you willing to share that gesture? *puppy eyes*
Shirley Marquez: ooh, glad to see there's another Sony Vegas fan in the world!
AlexanderThe Benelli: kk...will take a look after the office hr
Torley Linden: WindLight's popularity has been a double-edged sword for us... since it's a First Look we can't recommend that people be dependent on it, but OMG IT'S SO PRETTY.
Dakota Tebaldi: I have to use the regular viewer; my computer probably isn't up to spec for WindLight
Torley Linden: Gwen, the "/boom"? :)
Gwendolyn Cassini: uhuh :D
KMeist Hax: I use the windlight viewer for everything except betagrid, desu
Shirley Marquez: try it, Dakota -- the recent versions cope well with lesser hardware
Shirley Marquez: you don't get all the eye candy, but it runs
Torley Linden: Oh sure, anyone who wants "/boom", just say "BOOM!" out in the open!
nokithecat Writer: One other issue, the Mono test grid was having allot of network problems and crashing/can't TP/can't boarder cross. I hope someone can look into it..
Squirrel Wood uses WL exclusively :p
Guen Shan: hi *mews*
Marianne McCann: BOOM!
KMeist Hax: BOOM! desu.
Tegg Bode: Yes sky and water so pretty, damn makes joining the water to prim water impossible now :)
CeeJay Tigerpaw: V^vv^V PuRrRrzZz V^vv^V
Dakota Tebaldi: BOOM!
Shirley Marquez: I use it except for CSI -- the OnRez viewer works better there
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Marianne McCann accepted your inventory offer.
Heart Print - Rt/Click - Wear: Can't create object 'Left Print' because the parcel 'Video Tutorials @ Torley's Watermelinden Land of Happy' at Grasmere 174.446, 31.2005 is full.
KMeist Hax: they should let you use the water shader on prim faces, to help with prim water issues, desu
Marianne McCann: YAY!
KMeist Hax accepted your inventory offer.
Gwendolyn Cassini accepted your inventory offer.
Shirley Marquez: KM -- there is a proposal for water prims in the JIRA, go vote for it!
Dakota Tebaldi accepted your inventory offer.
Gwendolyn Cassini: Yay thank you Torley :DDD
Torley Linden: Yayzerama that's a lotta boom, HAHA. Use it for fun!
Dakota Tebaldi: cool, thanks
Marianne McCann: Water... prims?
KMeist Hax: searching jira, desu
Gwendolyn Cassini <3 Torley Linden!
Torley Linden: Hehe happy to help.
KMeist Hax: marianne: prims with the water shader on the faces, desu
Torley Linden: Gosh Gumby that avatar is just too awesome.
Shirley Marquez: a new material type, so that they would get the Windlight water shaders
Tegg Bode: Cool water prims, yes please, windlight on a prim? :)
AlexanderThe Benelli: Im using it for photos,and used windlight 100% until the newest one came out, since then im trying to find drivers for the nvdida go 6800 under vista 64bit (they dont exsist i think)
Gumby Roffo: TY Torley
Summer Seale: you know what torley? you should post a picture of your desk sometime. i'm wondering what it looks like.
Torley Linden: Yeah, that's certainly a popular feature request, having the water shader on prims... easier to "match".
Torley Linden: You're very welcome!
Gumby Roffo: Im back in mech mode
AlexanderThe Benelli: "water prims" would be really cool!
Torley Linden: Haha Summer, it looks pretty minimalist. A big wood slab, two monitors. The usual wires, and oh, thanks to my wife yesterday, bonsai.
Summer Seale: is it a big watermelon? does it have donuts? is your monitor pink and green? do you have a dartboard? inquiring minds want to know =)
Summer Seale: \o/ bonsai!
Torley Linden: Hahaha I would recolor more stuff IRL watermelon if it was easier.
Torley Linden: I would love, love more watermelon stuff.
Gwendolyn Cassini: cant wait till WL settings can be a inventory item too
Shirley Marquez: I have to run -- nice to see everyone, and friendly goodbyes!
Summer Seale: see you shirley =)
Torley Linden: Friendly goodbye Shirley, and good to see ya!
Marianne McCann: Ya. If only you could right-click RL content to get a pie menu
Daedalus Young: bye!
Dakota Tebaldi: Bye Shirley
Marianne McCann: Bye Bye!!
Torley Linden: Gwen, yes, that'll be a real treat...
Torley Linden: Haha exactly, Mari... *Edit* LOL!
KMeist Hax: bye-bye, desu
Tasty Tiramisu: bye Shirley
Tegg Bode: Pink & green spraypaint is cheap, might want to masking tape up a few things first :)
fr43k Paine: take care Shirley
AlexanderThe Benelli: Qarl said no tradable WL settings before the release, prob, later than sooner :-(
Torley Linden: "Oh look, I retextured my dog!"
Marianne McCann: Bad enough when I try to use camera controls in Photoshop
Summer Seale: wow!
Summer Seale: hi guen!!!
Squirrel's Fortune Cookie: Here's some wisdom for you:
Squirrel's Fortune Cookie: Politics is made up of two words. "poli" which is Greek for "many", and "tics", which are bloodsucking insects. -- Gore Vidal
KMeist Hax: pink-and-green computer, desu?
Daedalus Young: I painted my shack in Puzzle Pirates pink & green :P
Torley Linden: Alexander, yes, that's right, where did you hear him say that, outta curiosity? His office hours?
Gumby Roffo: if only I could " return all the crap in my computer room , back to its correct spot
AlexanderThe Benelli: office hr
Torley Linden: *nods*
Torley Linden: LOL Daed!
Gwendolyn Cassini: last week I was bringing my kid to school. Biking past a building. And the glow on the windows of a appartment building looked just like Shiny. I even moved my head up and down trying to make the shiny move *ducks*
AlexanderThe Benelli: just today
Torley Linden: I played Puzzle Pirates a bit a long time ago...
KMeist Hax: lol
Torley Linden: pink + green do make me very happy. It's a longtime childhood dream I brought into Second Life.
Gwendolyn Cassini: I believe im in SL to much LOL
Torley Linden: Haha Gwen!
Daedalus Young: that's one of the cool things about SL
Marianne McCann: Gwen - there have been days around here when I have wondered what settings the RL sky is using.
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Torley Linden: There're some funny YouTube videos showing "SL in RL"... there was a French one which is SO WELL DONE.
Heart Print - Rt/Click - Wear: Can't create object 'Left Print' because the parcel 'Video Tutorials @ Torley's Watermelinden Land of Happy' at Grasmere 171.119, 32.8238 is full.
Heart Print - Rt/Click - Wear: Can't create object 'Left Print' because the parcel 'Video Tutorials @ Torley's Watermelinden Land of Happy' at Grasmere 170.906, 32.58 is full.
Heart Print - Rt/Click - Wear: Can't create object 'Left Print' because the parcel 'Video Tutorials @ Torley's Watermelinden Land of Happy' at Grasmere 173.704, 31.6604 is full.
Torley Linden: http://youtube.com/watch?v=flkgNn50k14
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Daedalus Young: yeah, that was funny
Heart Print - Rt/Click - Wear: Can't create object 'Left Print' because the parcel 'Video Tutorials @ Torley's Watermelinden Land of Happy' at Grasmere 171.518, 31.6634 is full.
Heart Print - Rt/Click - Wear: Can't create object 'Left Print' because the parcel 'Video Tutorials @ Torley's Watermelinden Land of Happy' at Grasmere 169.956, 30.573 is full.
Summer Seale: hi guen =)
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Heart Print - Rt/Click - Wear: Can't create object 'Left Print' because the parcel 'Video Tutorials @ Torley's Watermelinden Land of Happy' at Grasmere 168.494, 29.6848 is full.
KMeist Hax: meh my favorite is still the Third Life video, desu
Summer Seale: long time no see =)
Gumby Roffo: the office one is a hoot!
AlexanderThe Benelli: I was laying a pattern in rl and had like half of it when i thought about using "shift drag copy" and "just turn it" :P
Guen Shan: hi summer ^^
Torley Linden: Third Life, wasn't that a candy bar commercial?
KMeist Hax: lol
AlexanderThe Benelli: Ans just sime days ago
Gwendolyn Cassini: oh yeah that one is awesome :D
Torley Linden: Hahah, it's funny how the popular method to copy in here isn't exactly intuitive... but useful once you know how.
AlexanderThe Benelli: i was driving on the motorway
Gwendolyn Cassini: yes it was a kitkat commercial
KMeist Hax: sometimes when I see red links on a web page I think it's a missing page, desu
AlexanderThe Benelli: and saw the sky and sun on the water
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Heart Print - Rt/Click - Wear: Can't create object 'Left Print' because the parcel 'Video Tutorials @ Torley's Watermelinden Land of Happy' at Grasmere 168.633, 30.0875 is full.
Heart Print - Rt/Click - Wear: Can't create object 'Left Print' because the parcel 'Video Tutorials @ Torley's Watermelinden Land of Happy' at Grasmere 168.384, 30.1738 is full.
Guen gives Torrid a big hug.
Guen Shan purrs
AlexanderThe Benelli: and thought..."Woow....nearly as good as WL"
AlexanderThe Benelli: *g*
Guen Shan purrs
Gwendolyn Cassini: http://youtube.com/watch?v=OrAHBk4ZAeQ
Rock Pond Pose ball: llStopAnimation: Script trying to stop animations but agent not found
Torley Linden: Ah, Pastrami Linden looked to SOOO much RL inspiration to make WL purty.
Torley Linden: He tweaked the heck out of the default day cycle...
AlexanderThe Benelli looks the vid
Torley Linden: Ah yeah I saw that Kitkat commercial, good stuff.
Multi Chair Crate v1.0.42 (TORLEY MOD) whispers: Maximum number of chairs reached, please rez another Multi Chair table.
AlexanderThe Benelli: it is.....just....AMAZING
AlexanderThe Benelli: *g*
Marianne McCann: Torley - do you know if Pastrami is in Northern California?
Torley Linden: Nice to see someone running Second Life on an iPhone... http://youtube.com/watch?v=bJF3LBREabk
Torley Linden: No Mari, he's in Boston, why? =)
Daedalus Young: I once looked out over a large lake and saw the shore on the other side, but it was all hazed, and I thought "oh that ugly gap at the horizon!"
Gwendolyn Cassini: Patrami??? That name makes me hungry
Tasty Tiramisu: Torley, i have a notecard for you, that can be used to add to " For a better Chat-Experiance" tutorial
AlexanderThe Benelli: löööööl..the kitkat ad is just cool
Marianne McCann: Jes wondering from the times I've looked at the sky here an wondered
Tasty Tiramisu gave you Keyboard Tip: Chat Buffer is under CONTROL.
Torley Linden: Thanks Tasty... hmmm.
Marianne McCann: Hey Kara
Torley Linden: Yes, some of those are my faves.
Torley Linden: (Chat shortcuts, that is.)
AlexanderThe Benelli: ahh...torley...have u considere havong some1 translate ur tuts?
Kara Spengler: Hello Marianne, still rezzing
Gwendolyn Cassini: wow thats sooo cool! I want an Iphone too hahaha
Tasty Tiramisu: many unknown ones with chat
Torley Linden: Alexander, yes, the International Team and I have discussed it too. I'm certainly open to it.
Marianne McCann: Some of the local RL "default sky" reminds me of the WL setting, hence why I was curious of the local atmosherics
AlexanderThe Benelli: I'm german, so im always trying to make the Linden think about it
Torley Linden: *nods*
AlexanderThe Benelli: Nice!
Torley Linden: I'd be happy to give the raw video files and upload them too... (I use Sony Vegas)
Marianne McCann: Gwen - I jes did a computer upgrade, so I have to wait on iPhones for a while
Torley Linden: So it's definitely "open for consideration" as they say.
AlexanderThe Benelli: I could try myself on them *g*
Squirrel Wood: http://kotaku.com/355302/when-the-final-boss-is-sick-of-being-the-final-boss ^^
Squirrel Wood: very good video
Torley Linden: HAHA Squirrel, that is a BRILLIANT video.
Torley Linden: The sense of humor, poise, and timing in that is masterful.
Marianne McCann: Thant's a fun one, Squirrel!
AlexanderThe Benelli: My voice isnt that nice, but i got a dj with a nice and pleasent voice
Torley Linden: If anyone wants to see a good motion graphics (moving fonts) demo reel, check out http://www.energidesign.com and click on the DEMO REEL link. Very, very awesome.
Torley Linden: I was watching motion graphics lately to learn more about that sort of fanciness.
AlexanderThe Benelli: So,torely, perhaps we can get in touch for the translation thing?
Kara Spengler: title
Torley Linden: Alexander, ahh well I'll certainly keep a note that you're interested! I think we need to wait for the International Team to come up with a plan for how we're going to do it per-language.
Torley Linden: Very much, VERY much appreciated you let me know. :)
Gwendolyn Cassini: looks a bit like Diablo @ Squirrel
Squirrel Wood: yep
Gumby Roffo: I have just finished Terry Pratchett's Book " Making Money", Couldn't help compairing it to the SL banks LOL
AlexanderThe Benelli: KK....i ill try to annoy lotte with it, too *g*
Marianne McCann: Good move on the ad farms, by the by
Shockwave Plasma: TP is great
Torley Linden: Hehehe.
Gwendolyn Cassini: Pratchett is cool :)
Torley Linden: Mari, oh yeah, Jack and our land gurus would be happy to hear that... it's all about bringing more value to the mainland.
AlexanderThe Benelli: yep, good move,the ad farms
Marianne McCann nods
Multi Chair Crate v1.0.42 (TORLEY MOD) whispers: Maximum number of chairs reached, please rez another Multi Chair table.
Gwendolyn Cassini: yeah great move the adfarms.
Marianne McCann: /e loves her mainland plot
Kara Spengler: yes, thanks! although unfortunately the 9500 linden ad next to me "mysteriously" went off the market immediately .... not that the ad went away
Torley Linden: And by "value" I do include HAPPINESS. :)
KMeist Hax: best blog post EVER
Gumby Roffo: Ad farms, my smiley face boxes have turned into trees over night, woot!
Shockwave Plasma: Agrees about the add-farms, lok like the mainland is getting a make over
Daedalus Young: ooh, I just got an idea: you could set out a race on the Southern Continent
Marianne McCann: I'm really excited about the LDPW. Would love to help out on it, even
Tegg Bode: Yep, bet the AR team will be busy for a while :)
Marianne McCann: Daedalus - or do the SL Kessel Run!
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: hi there!
Marianne McCann: Hey Handmade!
Torley Linden: Yeah I look forward to the work done via LDPW... big projects a-rollin'.
Daedalus Young: Kessel? I don't know that?
Gwendolyn Cassini: Hi Handmadeandroid :D
Torley Linden: I saw that SL Kessel Run!
Torley Linden: Heard about it from Mari by way of the Privateer Space area...
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: i did it when i first joined, took a long time
Tegg Bode: I was thinking when Havok 4 setles in we should have a wacky auto race around one of the continents :)
Daedalus Young: yeah
Marianne McCann: Torley - the sim owner of Privateer jes added another level this week. Huge new space station
Torley Linden: Wacky races, reminds me of Muttley. ;)
Daedalus Young: have people machinima it
Torley Linden: Mari, that place has so many levels, incredible usage of vertical space. The texturing is so fun...
Torley Linden: thanks again for introducing me to it!
Marianne McCann snickers like Muttley
Marianne McCann: Oh ya. It blows me away every time I visit it
Torley Linden: Haha, funny cartoon laughs crack me up so much.
Torley Linden: Woody Woodpecker too.
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: i just came in at the end of the convo about ad farns is there a link?
Squirrel Wood: Oooo! Torley! You should check out AudioSurf ^^
Torley Linden: http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/02/13/mainland-and-the-ad-farm-problem/
Torley Linden: What is this AudioSurf? :)
Squirrel Wood: http://www.audio-surf.com/
Torley Linden: OHHH I haven't actually played that yet but it doth look SO COOL.
Torley Linden: Haha "Still Alive" is top on there, that's like, one of the biggest geek hits evar.
Gwendolyn Cassini: Torley what is a bodycrusher? I saw it floating above your head ;)
Marianne McCann: I've been encouraging folks to do a bit more travel about. It's actually interesting to do in some areas. Depressing in others, but the ad farm thing is so gonna help dat
Torley Linden: Oh nice, "Knights of Cydonia" is on the list, what a fave of mine!
Squirrel Wood: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH8iTd87GhU video
Tegg Bode: Hmm som many good cartoon, not on enymore, kids are stuck on yugi card cartoon & pokemon which went out of fad a few years ago :)
Torley Linden: Gwen, that's part of my avatar's script to make my body smaller.
Torley Linden: So that I don't stand all, but I'm mini!
Gwendolyn Cassini: oh ok, didnt know that. I should check my tiny avi's better
Torley Linden: *stand tall
Tegg Bode: lol glad it wasn't a griefer weapon :)
Torley Linden: Most tiny avi's use scrunched "meatball" animations, invisiprims, or some combination...
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: interesting blog
Marianne McCann: Tegg - I think it comes and goes. In the 80s, people complained abotu "Captain Plant," in the 70s, about "The Jackson 5 cartoon"
KMeist Hax: yup, desu
Dakota Tebaldi: There was a Jackson 5 cartoon?
Torley Linden: Hahahahaha.
Torley Linden: I remember watching the Bibi's Kids and MC Hammer cartoons.
Torley Linden: Those were a dig, y0.
Dakota Tebaldi: Ah well, I was too busy watching Ghostbusters.
Marianne McCann: yup. It came on a half hour or so before the Osmonds cartoon
Marianne McCann: Heck, there was even a Rubick's Cube cartoon at one time
Torley Linden: That is so weird.
Gwendolyn Cassini spend hours playing Duck hunt...
Torley Linden: How could they make A WHOLE CARTOON on that!
AlexanderThe Benelli was shortly afk and just read somethign like 45lines of chat :P
Torley Linden: I remember on Duck Hunt, I used to pretend that the 2nd controller would move the ducks around, and it turned out to be t rue.
Torley Linden: I was so freaked out.
Gwendolyn Cassini: or watching Dungeons and dragons or Captain planet
KMeist Hax: lol
Marianne McCann: It was... bad.
Torley Linden: My fave Captain Planet villain was Dr. Blight.
Gwendolyn Cassini: whahaha Torley
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: is your avatar of
Tegg Bode: Lol, it's just there seems to be bigger guns & violence , but no one gets a balckend face anymore :)
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: off the japanese cartoons whos name escapes me torley?
Torley Linden: Oh my gosh, there's like 25 people here... thanks for visiting me, I must say!
fr43k Paine: Turtles, Galaxy Rangers and Saber Rider ! :-)
Marianne McCann: Totoro
Torley Linden: Astro Boy!
Gwendolyn Cassini: dont remember them that good anymore, but I always wanted to be heart :D
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: yes¬!
Torley Linden: Yes, I'm based on Totoro.
Torley Linden: I'm a watermelon spirit...
Torley Linden: I'd like to see Mei and the Catbus, apparently that's a rare film!
KMeist Hax: lol
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: we watched that for a lecture last month torley lol
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: my lecturer rocks
Torley Linden: Oh really, a LECTURE? On what?
Marianne McCann: I jesgot the Astro Boy set the other day. SOme great stuff. But I am a fan of osuma's work
Torley Linden: Sure sounds like he rocks.
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: design
KMeist Hax: great now I have to make a sculptie catbus, desu
Torley Linden: Mmmm.
Gwendolyn Cassini: Torley did you tried that dress I gave to you? Or shall I send it to your alts too?
Torley Linden: I heard there's a catbus at a club in SL but I haven't seen it yet.
Torley Linden: Gwen, what was the name of it again? I haven't tried it on yet but it looked so awesome on you.
Gwendolyn Cassini: *CC* I love watermelons
Torley Linden: Mmmmelons.
Gwendolyn Cassini: but i gave it to you in a box
Gwendolyn Cassini: and i called that box happy valentine torley
Can't create object 'Object' because the parcel 'Video Tutorials @ Torley's Watermelinden Land of Happy' at Grasmere 180.391, 18.1009 is full.
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: we always talk about films torley...this week i saw a dvd called 'closer' about the lates singer of joy division, the band that went on to become new order, i think you would like it
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: late*
Torley Linden: Thanks Gwen!
Torley Linden: Ah got it.
Gwendolyn Cassini gave you Happy Valentine Torley Linden.
Torley Linden: Intriguing, I am a reasonable New Order fan.
Torley Linden: Thanks for the recommendation, Handmade.
Marianne McCann: I loved the Valentine's area yesterday... but I gt the feeling ia is gonna hafta use mroe island next year. Plce was so full an so laggy at times
Torley Linden: I listened to a music box/lullaby version of "Blue Monday" and "Bizarre Love Triangle".
Marianne McCann: ia = Mia*
Gwendolyn Cassini: lol who doesnt want to kiss a Linden ... :D
Torley Linden: Yeah, did you get the pun too, "Isle of View"? ;)
Torley Linden: I thought that was SO clever.
Gwendolyn Cassini: Spike is very high on my list of very kissable Lindens hahaha
Dakota Tebaldi: Ha
Marianne McCann: Uh huh
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: funny i never liked joy division, now in the context of seeing the singers life story, tit good
Gwendolyn Cassini: or Pathfinder
AlexanderThe Benelli: whats planned for easter? Linden Egg hunt? :P
Marianne McCann: I only kissed Mia. An dat was an eskimo kiss
Torley Linden: ^_^
Torley Linden: I know we have an easter Linden... forge the name at the moment tho.
Summer Seale: torley is so cute that if you kissed him, you might get cooties. =)
Marianne McCann: An egg roll on the governor's lawn!
Torley Linden: Awwwwwe.
Torley Linden: Haha, roll some SLeggs!
Gwendolyn Cassini: yeah Torley you and my husband are very very alike with your hobbies :) You were already vbery kissable to me hahahaa
Marianne McCann: Torley - I think Leprechaun Linden will be around before the easter one
Squirrel Wood: Does Easter Linden have bunny ears? :p
Torley Linden: Hehehe.
Torley Linden: Why rabbits, why rabbits I wonder...
Torley Linden: I like soft little yellow chicks.
Torley Linden: They're so cute.
Synidez Dreadlow: hey all
AlexanderThe Benelli: Mhh....dont make the griefers here the "roll some SLeggs" thing, or we are going to be surrounded by eggs and eggs and eggs :P
Summer Seale: hi synidez =)
Gwendolyn Cassini: Leprechaun Linden :D handing out golden watermelons?
fr43k Paine: Hi Synidez
KMeist Hax: lol
Daedalus Young: four-leafed melons
Torley Linden: Anyone who thinks Colonel Sanders is an evil bastard should watch http://youtube.com/watch?v=MwyPI-zKqRs , it's like the ultimate revenge fantasy, BEWARE it has graphic violence.
Tegg Bode: Well we tried to change it to Bilbies in Oz but it never really took off
Torley Linden: Hahaha.
Marianne McCann: Leprechaun came an took piccies with me an my siblings last year. It was fun
AlexanderThe Benelli: Torley...at easter, do u hide eggs? Or do u hide small watermelons?
AlexanderThe Benelli: :P
Gwendolyn Cassini: awwwww cute
Torley Linden: Most likely "personal-size" watermelons.
AlexanderThe Benelli: löl
Gwendolyn Cassini: wow now i saw mor... not that cute anymore hahaha
Squirrel Wood: Giant Watermelindens ^^
KMeist Hax: lol
Marianne McCann: So after Mono, Havok4, and Windlight... what's next?
Torley Linden: SURPRISES, that's what. Hahaha.
Daedalus Young: SpeedTree!
Marianne McCann: BOOM!
Torley Linden: Well we have serious plans for stability & performance.
Summer Seale: the same thing we always try to do with SL, marianne: try to take over the world!
KMeist Hax: lol
Torley Linden: There's plans to make the new user experience easier too...
Torley Linden: including video tutorials. ;)
Torley Linden: LOL Summer.
Marianne McCann: I think so Summer, but where will we find a duck and a hose at this hour?
Torley Linden: And WindLight will have successor phases.
Summer Seale: lol!
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Marianne McCann: Nimbus?
Torley Linden: Eventually we hope, yes...
Marianne McCann: cool
Torley Linden: better trees too (but that's still a ways off).
Guen Shan: stability would be a nice feature ^^
Guen Shan: *mews*
Summer Seale: i vote for stability
Daedalus Young: HTML-on-a-prim
Marianne McCann: Ya. I'm fond of stability
nokithecat Writer: / With the efforts to make SL better by improving the experience for residents with the Linden Department of Public Works. Will there be more public and protected land? Any though of adding public land to main land to fill in missing gaps? Maybe even linking main lands?
AlexanderThe Benelli: "[14:50] Torley Linden: Well we have serious plans for stability & performance."...and you decided to better not even think about realizing them ? :P
Torley Linden: Definitely need to squash a lot of the ugly bugs that've been around a long time, I keep stressing that sometimes it's small annoying bugs that make the biggest difference, totally makes me upset when I keep coming across tiny things over and OVER and OVER.
Marianne McCann: Noki - Plexus was tempting me on Wednesday with talk of more marina space
Torley Linden: Alexander: In addition to what we've already done, continuing on that track, I mean. :-)
Daedalus Young: yeah, the missing coastline will be completed, right?
Torley Linden: nokithecat: I don't know about that. You should ask one of our land gurus.
Squirrel Wood: BUG REPORT!
Squirrel Wood: Tools > Bug Reporting..
Squirrel Wood: http://jira.secondlife.com
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: invidia have purchased the physics chip manufactorer Ageia this week and are promising future cards with physics processor built on
Torley Linden: There's an Infohub improvement project too...
KMeist Hax: lol
Daedalus Young: and I once heard the idea is to have a strip of water around the entire mainland
Torley Linden: Handmade, I saw that in the news. I want to see what happens with that.
KMeist Hax: Squirrel, I need that Bug Report gesture, desu
Squirrel Wood complains that there is not enough watermelinden colored stuff in SL.
Guen Shan: Torley annoying repeating things, like crashing? ^^
Torley Linden: Haha Squirrel, I'd say that too, but I'm biased.
Gwendolyn Cassini: there are no info hubs in the new mainlands, I hope they will be added there
Guen Shan giggles
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: yeah they were talking about having 3 card systems with a mixture of functions across the cards
KMeist Hax: Torley, get your help videos in the infohubs and Help Islands, it would make things a lot better, desu
Gwendolyn Cassini: crash on tp: at least once every 4 tps...
Marianne McCann: Torley - I think one big improvement for infohubs would simpy be more oversight, really. So many troublemakers and scams go through em ::-(
Torley Linden: Guen: Whenever there's a reproducible crash, it should be fixed ASAP. Ones that happen "sporadically" are harder to track down. We have an improved internal crash metrics system tho.
Tegg Bode: Stairs for Torleys offuce so no flying AV's don't have to cheat? :)
Torley Linden: Gwendolyn, the viewer suddenly crashes? Or gives you a "disconnect" message?
Gwendolyn Cassini: disconnect
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: how has the planer bug come about?
CeeJay Tigerpaw: There ought to be a way for landowners to cooperate systematically with the SL protected lands stuff. I have an area in my property that is entirely open to the public, but many people who might want to use it are perhaps too polite to do so.
Torley Linden: Thanks KMeist, good idea, I've been hoping to...
Torley Linden: Gwen, sounds like SVC-972, I hate that problem too.
Torley Linden: Handmade, fixed for likely the next WL release.
Torley Linden: Runitai was very quick to jump on that bug.
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: yippee
Gwendolyn Cassini: but that suddenly crashing of the viewer while giving a C++ runtime error is still there :/
AlexanderThe Benelli: kk....than im full of hope....u are doing a great job anyway...just making sl running with this MEGA ammount of data ,traffic, etc is quite a task, making it as smooths as a "Normal" online game which has a fraction of the data (e.g. using a library with objects) is something you can probably dedicate ur whole life too
Gwendolyn Cassini: but less often as first
KMeist Hax: i'll build you an object to go through the various tutorials if yo want, desu
Guen Shan: Torley i was teasing you a little ^^
Torley Linden: Runitai was also the one who originally added planar texturing to SL, he's a veritable graphics guru.
Marianne McCann: CeeJay - would dat eb someting the SLPRS folks might be able to know about?
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: wow maths head
Guen Shan: but you're right, sporadic crashes are annoying
Torley Linden: KMeist: That's very nice of you! I've just added a test player to this land that can change between video tutorials.
nokithecat Writer: With my windlight client, if I TP from a LM in my Inventory, it will freeze for a minute then log me out every time. To TP with Windlight I have to open map, wait 2 minutes then TP..
Gwendolyn Cassini played the Sims2 before, and when that crashed I lost my families. And that was way laggier. So I love SL
Al Sonic: Ahh. Very nice. Hope he'll do well fixing its bug.
Tegg Bode: I wish I had a maths head I could use at times
KMeist Hax: nice, desu
Torley Linden: Reproducible crashes almost always get Critical priority, if not Showstopper (if they happen way too frequently or can't be avoided).
Torley Linden: nokithecat: I have that problem!!! I know what that is, try turning off Client menu > Rendering > Object-Object Occlusion and let me know if that's a workaround.
nokithecat Writer: (^_^)
nokithecat Writer: I hope it works (^_^)
Torley Linden: nokithecat, if that works for you, please comment here: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3513 , I've been trying to find more people with the same prob.
Torley Linden: "WindLight: Viewer sometimes freezes when teleporting"
Marianne McCann: Oh, I remember 0one thing i was gonna ask ya, Torley. Your windlight settings Did you have those on your website somewhere?
KMeist Hax: Sometimes I'll TP without the teleporting thing coming up, so the world seems to disappear and reappear, desu
Summer Seale: i'ts on the wiki =)
Torley Linden: Sure Mari, they're at the bottom of http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Windlight
Summer Seale: ih ave them saved on my desktop
KMeist Hax: I actually kind of like that, desu
Marianne McCann: Excellent - thankoo!
Summer Seale: ok! i gotta run
Summer Seale: thank you torley, so much.
Summer Seale: i love your meetings =)
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: ive noticed that this week KM laggy Tp's
nokithecat Writer: ok (^_^) Thank you!
Torley Linden: You're soo welcome! Thanx for coming over!
Torley Linden: :-)
Summer Seale: remember the mardi gras parade tomorrow at raglan shire! i think you will love it!
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KMeist Hax: i will, desu
Summer Seale: they even built floats =)
Marianne McCann: I've been enjoying AM Radio's "Nostalgia" setting, too. http://raulcrimson.wordpress.com/2007/12/13/nostalgia-a-windlight-setting-by-am-radio/
Torley Linden: I hope I can come, sounds exciting.
Torley Linden: Oooh.
Summer Seale: ya it's gonna be awesome
Summer Seale: seriously amazing work
Summer Seale: anyway!
Summer Seale: see you everyone! thank you again torley! *hugs*
Torley Linden: Lemme see that... ooooh.
Torley Linden: Works well with AM Radio's builds, thanks for the pointer.
Torley Linden: *hugz Summer*
Marianne McCann: You're welcome!  :-)
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Marianne McCann: Ya missed him by moments last week, at the AM hours
Torley Linden: Haha, on Raul Crimson's blog, he has that pixelart on the right-hand side... I love that stuff.
Guen Shan: i love 8bit stuff *mews*
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: lol ubik must hae been busy today
Torley Linden: I'm a big fan of chiptune music too.
Torley Linden: I like seeing pixelated avatars in Second Life as well.
Gwendolyn Cassini: time flies when having fun :) Its midnight here. Im off to bed :)
AlexanderThe Benelli: Ahh...nice...need to upload some WL settings, didnt realize that its that easy
Marianne McCann: Ni ni Gwen!
Dakota Tebaldi: Nite Gwendolyn
Guen Shan: Torley have you ever listened to tatata moto?
Torley Linden: Have a good nite Gwen!
Torley Linden: Thanx for coming!
Torley Linden: No Guen, tell me more!
Torley Linden: Sounds like a very melodic name.
Guen Shan: it's a japanese dj
Tasty Tiramisu: Goodnight Gwendolyn
Guen Shan: i saw him once
Gwendolyn Cassini: Good night all. Oh Torley Ive send the dress to Tester and Serendipity too. If you want it for more alts let me know
KMeist Hax: my favorite game of all time will always be Earthbound, desu
Guen Shan: wait i'll give you a link to his myspace site
Torley Linden: Oh lovely, thanks Gwen! Sooo appreciated.
Torley Linden: Earthbound (Mother) has some wacky music, I remember watching my brother play that game when I was sick, I was so tripped out.
Torley Linden: The battle music is so weird.
KMeist Hax: it's my favorite music, desu
Torley Linden: *I like video game RPG battle music a lot, particularly Final Fantasy stuff*
Gumby Roffo: did you get a chance to try the Sub out Torley?
Torley Linden: Not yet Gumby! Looks fun tho.
AlexanderThe Benelli: Ahh...hearing "dj"...
Marianne McCann: I love the subs at prim Hearts. Someday when I have more land... watch out world!
Torley Linden: Reminds me of a certain Beatles movie. ;)
Torley Linden: IN A WORLD... WITH MORE PRIMS...
KMeist Hax: LOL
Torley Linden: IN A TIME... WITH LESS LAG...
Torley Linden: Haha.
Marianne McCann laughs
AlexanderThe Benelli: Torley, the "view admin options" bug, is there a jira# for it?
Gumby Roffo: LOL I made a yellow one as well
fr43k Paine: ^^
Torley Linden: Which specific bug, Alexander?
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: i used to live with a guy who made a lot of the back in the day 16bit video game tunage
AlexanderThe Benelli: If a resi enables "view admin options"
AlexanderThe Benelli: they are able to do things they shouldnt
AlexanderThe Benelli: nothing really bad
AlexanderThe Benelli: but reading out the media urls
fr43k Paine: fly and such things
Daedalus Young: start flying in no-fly-zone
Guen Shan: here it is Torley: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=1000427989
AlexanderThe Benelli: flying in no flight
Daedalus Young: see media urls
Torley Linden: Alexander, ah yes, there are bug reports for some of those, like that they can view media URLs... :\ there's a project to cleanup Client/Server menus.
Kara Spengler: netstat
AlexanderThe Benelli: script in no script etc
Torley Linden: Yeah what Daed said too.
nokithecat Writer: With the latest windlight client, I have my camera control move to another location on my screen, my mini map shrink, opened gestures-opened textures- move into a overlapping pile on my screen. Hopefuly it can be looked into.
AlexanderThe Benelli: Kk..*adds this to his "when jira likes me again" list*
Torley Linden: I know it's a deterrent to hide media URLs, not 100% prevention, but View Admin Options is so freakin' trivial.
Daedalus Young: script in no-script already can be done by flying up 150 or so meters
Guen Shan: Torley listen to the song "Pal 3", that's one of my favorites
KMeist Hax: fly in no-fly is a keyboard shortcut, desu
Torley Linden: We should treat things more consistently, that's my view.
AlexanderThe Benelli: Yep, also reading out texture UUIDs was possible
Torley Linden: Thanks for the recommendation, Guen!
Torley Linden: Alexander, yeah, and James resolved that...
AlexanderThe Benelli: dunno if it still is, dont know the shortcut anymore
AlexanderThe Benelli: kk
KMeist Hax: haven't had to use it recently however, desu
Daedalus Young: and you can fly in no-fly if you are already flying when entering
Jason Swain: Anybody can still view the URLs by looking up the TCP/UDP connections there PC has open. Its not really a security issue
AlexanderThe Benelli: great to hear that (so ppl at least have to torture their pc with GLintercept :P )
Torley Linden: that's exactly why I feel strongly about, if we're going to have some deterrents, at least make them reasonably difficult to bypass. There'll always be technical geniuses who can get around it, but most people can't, or can't understand the finer implications.
Torley Linden: As Jason points out too, if you know how to check the Debug Console too...
Torley Linden: er, Console Window.
Torley Linden: (Same thing.)
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: avatar wills lol
Torley Linden: Second Life faces the challenge of having to be something for so many different people with diverse, and in some cases, conflicting visions of what they want to see next. It's both rewarding and maddening.
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: could be a growth area
Torley Linden: Avatar wills?
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: yes, what happens to your inventory if you pass away, your friends list
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: how would someone knows
KMeist Hax: what, like, when my account is banned I want my inventory donated to (resident name here), desu? lol
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: know*
Torley Linden: In the ToS, we actually have an allowance that if someone behind an account is deceased, and they have a will bequeathing their avatar's stuff, then the next-of-kin or other inheritant can contact us to have that worked out.
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: i was reading about a 'final email' service you can join, offers similar cover
AlexanderThe Benelli: ahh...cool..or not so cool, considering the circumstances :P
Torley Linden: It has happened a few times before, but these are private, personal matters involving grieving (not to be confused with "griefing" :p) so they haven't been publicized much.
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: yes of course, it would be nice to think people would be told
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: privately
AlexanderThe Benelli: Ok, still good to know that this actually exsist
Torley Linden: Yup. I think we have a Knowledge Base article on it too but let me see...
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fr43k Paine: "last will and testament. I ... my beloved wife my SL account. Money goes to the kids"
KMeist Hax: nice avatar kuku
AlexanderThe Benelli: Lol, theres so much in there, but to be able to find it you already have to know what u are looking for,e.g. whats the name,etc
kuku Voom: ??
Torley Linden: Hmm I don't see the article. Maybe we don't, the word "will" brings up too many results.
kuku Voom: thank you
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: i dont wish to seem mormid, it just sprung to mind, folk who have contributed a lot of content may wish to have there stuff made open source after they pass
Tasty Tiramisu: try "last will"
AlexanderThe Benelli: @torley:thats what i meant with "cant find stuff in there"
Torley Linden: Yes, it's a fact of life... and death. Better to be prepared than ignorant.
Torley Linden: Alexander, yeah, better search in a sea of information is ALWAYS welcome.
Torley Linden: I'm a big fan, proponent, advocate, etc. of simplifying and making complex stuff easy to understand and locate.
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: its just all modern things to consider as we grow, new problems and solutions
Torley Linden: Yes, well-said!
Torley Linden: And then looking back, we'll be like, "Wow, we got through that... what's up next... flying cars?" :)
KMeist Hax: haha I just realized torley's tutorial giftbox is still outside, desu
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: the linden memorial park 2057ad
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: :P
AlexanderThe Benelli: *g* *thumbs up* @ organizing data in an easier accessible form
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: memorial sim*
Al Sonic: Yeah, Handmade, wasn't patent system in RL was made for such purposes?
Torley Linden: Haha, funny you mention 2057 AD, because I'm watching a Discovery Channel documentary called 2057 AD, and it has flying cars!
Torley Linden: Mmmm connections.
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: lol
fr43k Paine: haha
AlexanderThe Benelli: lol
Daedalus Young: these strange things happen all the time
Dakota Tebaldi: It's 2008 - we're supposed to have flying cars NOW!
Al Sonic: Hahaha.
KMeist Hax: i don't have a flying car but I have a flying UFO, desu
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: wee atoms all fiery in a massive outpouring of exciting things in the middle of somewhere that nobody can quite put there finger on
Torley Linden: I think 2057 is still kinda optimistic for flying cars en masse, but we'll... see I suppose.
Daedalus Young: just the other day I was trying to create som flame fractals and I got an SL notification about fractal art
Torley Linden: Ohh really?
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: i think 20 years we will see
KMeist Hax: yeah, desu
Dakota Tebaldi: Does SL not like fractal art?
Torley Linden: What other sorts of inventions would you like to see in the near-future? :)
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: peace
AlexanderThe Benelli: ive got "UFO"s every lunch (ok, just mo-friday) =>"unknown FOOD object"
Daedalus Young: why would SL not like fractal art?
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: intoxication without hangovers
Torley Linden: @_@
Velouria Infinity: yall everybody
Al Sonic: First Life had to delay development of the Flying Cars feature to work on the Renewable Fuel feature and other stuff, hehe.
fr43k Paine: A automatically refilling money pocket would be cool
Torley Linden: Priorities, priorities.
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KMeist Hax: but then money would be worthless, desu
AlexanderThe Benelli: @handmade;would be nice *G*
KMeist Hax: the whole point of money is that it's hard to find, desu :D
Dakota Tebaldi: True
fr43k Paine: Not if you are the only one. I think it would be ok^^
Daedalus Young: I saw a show on tv about how three hours in SL costs the amount of energy your body uses in one hour
Daedalus Young: all in server electricity and stuff
AlexanderThe Benelli: lol....
Al Sonic: Heh, even that runs out of effectiveness eventually.
Torley Linden: Wow, it specifically mentioned Second Life, Daed? I wonder what show was that.
Daedalus Young: well I don't remember the exact numbers
Daedalus Young: yeah
KMeist Hax: i thought it was an internet article, but w/e, desu
Daedalus Young: it was a Dutch show about the environment
Velouria Infinity: Torley you're a bear?
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: we are very lucky indeed
Daedalus Young: I have another cool video whioch features SL though
KMeist Hax: no, he's an ultra-rare watermelon Totoro, desu
Torley Linden: =^_^=
Daedalus Young: has Michio Kaku talk about visions of the future
Daedalus Young: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tsG5QENb4FY
FL0 Cale gave you I like turtles!.
Rock Pond Pose ball: llStopAnimation: Script trying to stop animations but agent not found
Velouria Infinity: a Totoro! wooth, ya need the Cloverfield avatar
Torley Linden: OH COOL, yes, Michio Kaku is freakin' awesome!
Torley Linden: He's one fo my fave physicists.
Torley Linden: *of
Daedalus Young: yeah, I like him too :D
Dakota Tebaldi: I met Murray Gell-Mann a couple years ago
Torley Linden: He's a very smart, smooth guy. He's pretty liberal too and wild, talking about UFOs and all that.
Daedalus Young: apparently the US is prepared for an alien attack
Torley Linden: Michio could be dismissed as a quack were it not for the fact that he has so much substantial work he's done.
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: has anyone seen the video of the famous professor who had a few weeks to live give his last talk. Its doing the rounds on the net at the moment, its very moving
Velouria Infinity: prepared for what? LMAO
Torley Linden: I heard of that one, Handmade, yes.
Daedalus Young: for when "they" arrive :P
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: ive just stumbled it, im sorry i cant provide a link
Torley Linden: They likely won't be little green men!
CeeJay Tigerpaw: Maybe little watermelon men? :-)
Velouria Infinity: ya mean we can't deal with katrima but are prepped for Aliens? Geez!
Daedalus Young: Greys, or Reptilian
KMeist Hax: lol
Tasty Tiramisu: they arrived... didn't you watch Men In Black???
Torley Linden: HAHAHA.
Dakota Tebaldi: I saw a video about people getting attacked somehow by Google Maps Street View
KMeist Hax: that video was hilarious, desu
Torley Linden: Ahhh it's been a lovely time. I need to take off for now, but... thanks SO much to each and all of you for visiting me at my office hour! Have a memorable + fun weekend!
Guen Shan: some day two little mouses will take over the world
Jason Swain: Thanks Torley, Have a great weekend
AlexanderThe Benelli: the vid is cool..thx for the link, daedalus
KMeist Hax: also torley did you wanna see my spaceship, desu?
CeeJay Tigerpaw: Remember the old SF rule for aliens:
Daedalus Young: yw :)
Al Sonic: Yep, it's a fun time here.
Daedalus Young: thanks Torley!
Torley Linden: Dakota, that's a fave of mine too.
Dakota Tebaldi: Later Torley
AlexanderThe Benelli: Thank you for your time,torley!
CeeJay Tigerpaw: 1) Avoid eye contact.
Gumby Roffo: OK Torley have a good night
Daedalus Young: will be seeing you later
Al Sonic: Seeya next week I suppose.
nokithecat Writer: ,,,=^_^=,,, Thank you Torley for your information (^_^)
Daedalus Young: 2) don't mimick
CeeJay Tigerpaw: 2) If there are no eyes, avoid *all* contact.
Torley Linden: KMeist, I do, send me landmark and/or piccies? :)
Handmadeandroid Zenovka: laters toley, keep up the good melon
Daedalus Young: oh lol
Gumby Roffo: looks for fish for CeeeJay
CeeJay Tigerpaw: *SLURP*
KMeist Hax: bah I don't have a picture or LM, desu
Torley Linden: Hahaha ta, and you're soooo welcome! Friendly goodbyes!
Daedalus Young: bye :)