Bug triage/2008-01-30/Transcript

Agenda

• [15:03] Aric Linden: Hi all
• [15:03] Harleen Gretzky: Hi Aric
• [15:03] Kevin Paisley: hola
• [15:03] Yuu Nakamichi: Hello :)
• [15:03] Aric Linden: I'm your virtual bridie today
• [15:03] Daedalus Young: I see the resemblance
• [15:03] Aric Linden: my hair is MUCH better thank you
• [15:03] Torley Tester: Hahahaha.
• [15:03] Torley Tester: :D
• [15:04] Aric Linden: laughs
• [15:04] Daedalus Young: lol
• [15:04] Torley Tester: *cymbal crash*
• [15:04] Aric Linden: grins at torley
• [15:04] Aric Linden: pretty good, huh. I'll have to tell her about that one
• [15:04] Squirrel Wood: /ao off
• [15:04] Squirrel Wood: Hellos!
• [15:04] Aric Linden: so anyway, she's in the middle of something and asked if I'd host today
• [15:05] Squirrel Wood: just reported something that could be a serious issue on havok4...
• [15:05] Aric Linden: Let me get the agenda up
• [15:05] Alexa Linden: the first item is up on the Pjira spinner
• [15:05] Alexa Linden: VWR-4338
• [15:05] Aric Linden: ohoo coool. thanks alexa
• [15:05] Alexa Linden: Votes: 0 - Login > Not Responding, White Screen, Crashing, Unable to Connect to Login Server.
• [15:05] Squirrel Wood: Ha!
• [15:05] Squirrel Wood: I saw that white screen
• [15:06] Yuu Nakamichi: me too ;p
• [15:06] Squirrel Wood: like, yesterday or so
• [15:06] Yuu Nakamichi: nods
• [15:06] Torley Tester: Hmmm...
• [15:06] Kevin Paisley: been getting worse past 3 days...the white screen..never got that before :P
• [15:06] Torley Tester: I've had that a few times recently...
• [15:06] Torley Tester: but only on the web-auth login screen.
• [15:06] Mad Thunder: Combat HUD 1.7 shouts: JoeMama Houston has entered Tombstone!
• [15:06] Squirrel Wood: then again I also keep getting 503's on the sl forums
• [15:06] Torley Tester: Have you seen this with the main viewer?
• [15:07] Squirrel Wood: I saw it with windlight
• [15:07] Torley Tester: Squirrel: I've also seen those across the whole website, definitely known issue our webdevs & more are working on.
• [15:07] Alexa Linden: I got this yesterday when trying to login
• [15:07] Yuu Nakamichi: any viewer with the new login screen I think
• [15:07] Alexa Linden: big white screen of nada
• [15:07] Yuu Nakamichi: never with the traditional one
• [15:07] Squirrel Wood: web login... either never loads, shows "unable to connect", white-screens or takes 30-60 seconds to load
• [15:08] Yuu Nakamichi: nods
• [15:08] Aric Linden: this particular issue is a by product of a failed rollout yesterday
• [15:08] Yuu Nakamichi: it was intermittent yesterday
• [15:08] Aric Linden: yes
• [15:08] Yuu Nakamichi: ya
• [15:08] Aric Linden: It's now fixed
• [15:09] Aric Linden: We know about and are actively engaged in fixing the remaining login problems
• [15:09] Aric Linden: I'd prefer to resolve this with a note indicating that this was the result of update badness and has been fixed
• [15:09] Daedalus Young: sounds cool
• [15:09] Alexa Linden: ok
• [15:10] Alexa Linden: VWR-4262
• [15:10] Alexa Linden: Votes: 0 - while crossing a sim either sailing or flying I crash
• [15:10] Alexa Linden: not a new issue
• [15:10] Aric Linden: thinks alexa is working to break the landspeed record
• [15:10] Aric Linden: applauds
• [15:10] Torley Tester: Hahahaha.
• [15:11] Torley Tester: concurs with Alexa...
• [15:11] Squirrel Wood: speed... Mach3 :p
• [15:11] Alexa Linden: fast crossings can lead to crashes
• [15:11] Alexa Linden: lol exactly
• [15:11] Torley Tester: A lot of region crossing stuff on the Issue Tracker should be clumped together.
• [15:11] Aric Linden: yes
• [15:11] Alexa Linden: do you want me to link to ... ya
• [15:11] Alexa Linden: one of the other ones
• [15:11] Squirrel Wood: teleports in general seem to result in relogs today
• [15:11] Torley Tester: There's the really big one that "region crossings are sometimes slow"...
• [15:11] Aric Linden: and vehicles crossing boundaries in havok 1 can break
• [15:11] Torley Tester: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-472
• [15:12] Aric Linden: I think you might also ask that Tia check this when the region becomes havok4 enabled
• [15:12] Alexa Linden: ok
• [15:12] Alexa Linden: VWR-4364
• [15:13] Alexa Linden: Votes: 0 - When you click or left click (windows) on any area you crash
• [15:13] Torley Tester: Hmmm... seems like it happens frequently, but no other reporters/confirmers.
• [15:13] Aric Linden: this one is confusing
• [15:13] Alexa Linden: I'm not sure this is reproducable
• [15:13] Aric Linden: it references two different branches
• [15:13] Torley Tester: *nods to Alexa and Aric*
• [15:13] Alexa Linden: I tried this and didn't crash
• [15:13] Aric Linden: I'd like more details
• [15:13] Torley Tester: We need more info... e.g., if they sent crash logs, anyone else who's having a problem...
• [15:13] Aric Linden: jinx
• [15:14] Alexa Linden: ok
• [15:14] Alexa Linden: I'll request it
• [15:14] Torley Tester: I've heard some scant reports of "spontaneous crashes" but... not reproducible!
• [15:14] Torley Tester: Thanx. =)
• [15:14] Alexa Linden: VWR-4216
• [15:14] Alexa Linden: Votes: 0 - Mac Pro (early 2008) crashes Windlight & regular viewer
• [15:15] Aric Linden: let's take this and pass it to pastrami
• [15:15] Alexa Linden: ok :)
• [15:15] Torley Tester: Doesn't seem WL-specific but I wonder what's up... I know we still have Leopard multitexturing etc. probs with WindLight...
• [15:15] Yuu Nakamichi: can this be multi-core related?
• [15:16] Torley Tester: I'd suggest "drivers" but this is on a Mac, where there aren't such choices.
• [15:16] Torley Tester: I don't know Yuu...
• [15:16] Torley Tester: hard to say without more reporters on similar hardware.
• [15:16] Alexa Linden: next up is VWR-4384
• [15:17] Alexa Linden: Votes: 0 - Viewer Crashes As "Connecting to Region..."
• [15:17] Torley Tester: Not enough info here... does it crash with certain regions? All?
• [15:18] Torley Tester: Cache cleared? Etc.
• [15:18] Squirrel Wood: that one may be related to teleports failing
• [15:18] Aric Linden: um, platform
• [15:18] Squirrel Wood: when the progress bar moves really slooooow
• [15:18] Aric Linden: the bmp doesn't provide much eitehr
• [15:18] Aric Linden: eitehr
• [15:18] Aric Linden: either
• [15:18] Alexa Linden: ok - I'll post all questions to reporter
• [15:18] Torley Tester: Also a sidenote, a reminder to please attach images as JPG or PNG, not BMP (and yes, I put an info-notice in the "create an issue" form).
• [15:18] Alexa Linden: ok
• [15:19] Torley Tester: PNGs are lossless, smaller, and have the benefit of preview thumbnails.
• [15:19] Torley Tester: BMPs are sadly bloated!
• [15:19] Daedalus Young: JPEGs have previews too :D
• [15:19] Torley Tester: Yupyup.
• [15:19] Alexa Linden: will add to comments
• [15:19] Alexa Linden: next is VWR-4394
• [15:20] Alexa Linden: Votes: 0 - Crashes after a short time with Catalyst 7.12 and 8.1 on Radeon X1950
• [15:20] Torley Tester: For the time being we recommend using Catalyst 7.10.
• [15:20] Aric Linden: I'd suggest waiting until Sapphire responds
• [15:20] Torley Tester: BigPapi and Zen are working with ATI to get better graphics driver stability!
• [15:20] Daedalus Young: OSSM
• [15:20] Aric Linden: torley, did you see my note?
• [15:20] Aric Linden: thinks email is dead
• [15:21] Torley Tester: Eek, *checks*
• [15:21] Torley Tester: I saw one you sent 4 days ago Aric...
• [15:21] Aric Linden: laughs
• [15:21] Aric Linden: Nah. I just sent you something re the ATI
• [15:21] Torley Tester: The most recent one I saw from you today was about those FireGL V5200s!
• [15:21] Torley Tester: Oh was that it?
• [15:21] Aric Linden: yep
• [15:22] Torley Tester: K, thanx.
• [15:22] Alexa Linden: so is there anything I need to do with this jira?
• [15:22] Aric Linden: No, I don't think so myself
• [15:22] Alexa Linden: last triaged date then?
• [15:22] Aric Linden: you could comment that we recommend the 7.1 drivers
• [15:23] Aric Linden: yep
• [15:23] Torley Tester: Yes, recommend the 7.10 ones for the time being...
• [15:23] Alexa Linden: ok
• [15:23] Torley Tester: Thanks Alexa!
• [15:23] Alexa Linden: next is VWR-4333
• [15:23] Alexa Linden: Votes: 0 - When I first teleported to NOAA Virtual Island, it froze after a few seconds before continuing
• [15:23] Torley Tester: Ah yes... that's "normal".
• [15:23] Torley Tester: Happens anywhere there's intensive streaming media...
• [15:23] Alexa Linden: yup
• [15:24] Torley Tester: e.g., movie + music playing at the same time.
• [15:24] Alexa Linden: is this the one
• [15:24] Alexa Linden: ya
• [15:24] Alexa Linden: too much to upload all at one time
• [15:24] Torley Tester: I'd suggest "Won't Finish" (for the present) but that we are looking into better methods to optimize parcel media playback...
• [15:24] Torley Tester: I think some of this is dependent on QuickTime too.
• [15:24] Alexa Linden: ok
• [15:25] Alexa Linden: will mark as such
• [15:25] Torley Tester: Thx. :)
• [15:25] Torley Tester: Kewl burning horns BTW.
• [15:25] Alexa Linden: lol thanks
• [15:25] Alexa Linden: next we have VWR-4365
• [15:25] Alexa Linden: Votes: 0 - Clicking "Skip all skip next time dialogues" in preferences seems to clear all saved preferences on disk
• [15:25] Aric Linden: I'd love to get a repro of this one
• [15:25] Aric Linden: interesting if it's really a bug
• [15:25] Aric Linden: let's take it and assign to me please
• [15:25] Torley Tester: Hey, that one sounds like a dupe... !
• [15:25] Torley Tester: I remember seeing this one in a much hotter form.
• [15:26] Aric Linden: looks at torley
• [15:26] Alexa Linden: lol ok
• [15:26] Torley Tester: Lemme find it...
• [15:26] Alexa Linden: it's yours aric
• [15:26] Aric Linden: I don't remember this
• [15:26] Torley Tester: VWR-4015
• [15:26] Aric Linden: wonders about bugs being hot - maybe to other bugs?
• [15:26] Torley Tester: "Skip all dialogs" corrupts settings file and resets Preferences - https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-4015
• [15:26] Torley Tester: Haha.
• [15:26] Torley Tester: Internally it's assigned to Steve.
• [15:26] Celierra Darling: It's what happens when you shine magnifying glasses on them >.>
• [15:27] Alexa Linden: lol
• [15:27] Aric Linden: lol
• [15:27] Torley Tester: MY EYEEEES!
• [15:27] Torley Tester:  ;)
• [15:27] Aric Linden: hehe
• [15:27] Aric Linden: so let's mark this one a dupe. I'm going to mark the other one as workingonit linden
• [15:28] Alexa Linden: ok
• [15:28] Aric Linden: Alexa, i've been going through pjira on my own (and with my team) and have amended the process a little. Let's hook up in the next or so and chat about it to see if it works for you
• [15:28] Aric Linden: ok?
• [15:28] Alexa Linden: sounds good :)
• [15:28] Torley Tester: Any details I need to know too? =)
• [15:28] Alexa Linden: next we have VWR-4309
• [15:29] Alexa Linden: otes: 0 - Crash after pointing mouse in the title bar during in world explorating
• [15:29] Torley Tester: Haha I like that word, "explorating"!
• [15:29] Alexa Linden: LOL
• [15:29] Alexa Linden: jinx
• [15:29] Torley Tester: I'm gonna do some explorating!
• [15:29] Torley Tester: *explorates*
• [15:29] Torley Tester: Seriously tho... nice there's a log but... I wonder if it happens *every* time to this person?
• [15:29] Torley Tester: Says "often" but... no one else has chimed in.
• [15:30] Celierra Darling: Weird - last line of the log is INFO: LLSDXMLParser::Impl::parse: XML_STATUS_ERROR parsing:HTTP/1.0 302 Moved Temporarily
• [15:30] Alexa Linden: no votes either
• [15:30] Torley Tester: Wonder if they're OK on the main viewer. And if it happens to 1.18.6 RC then it's not WL-specific so i'll remove WL.
• [15:30] Torley Tester: (When editing an issue, it says "ONLY select a "First Look" if this issue *ONLY* affects that version.")
• [15:30] Alexa Linden: thanks Torley
• [15:30] Torley Tester: =)
• [15:31] Aric Linden: I'd really like to know what version their using before taking this
• [15:31] Alexa Linden: ok - I'll ask
• [15:31] Alexa Linden: and add last triaged date
• [15:31] Aric Linden: thanks. If you look at the bottom of the crash log, you can see something fishy going on
• [15:31] Aric Linden: but I'd like a version before trying to repro
• [15:31] Alexa Linden: noted
• [15:32] Alexa Linden: next is SVC-1272
• [15:32] Alexa Linden: Votes: 21 - Boats Lower in Water in the Havok 4 Sims
• [15:32] Torley Tester: Lotta votes on that one.
• [15:32] Alexa Linden: yup
• [15:32] Torley Tester: Hmmm I wonder what Sidewinder, Andrew, and Simon said...
• [15:32] Torley Tester: if he already demo'ed this...
• [15:32] Yuu Nakamichi: nods
• [15:32] Torley Tester: seems obvious to import and assign to Sidewinder?
• [15:32] Alexa Linden: yup
• [15:33] Torley Tester: "Hey, remember this one... ahhhhh"
• [15:33] Alexa Linden: lol
• [15:33] Alexa Linden: noted
• [15:33] Torley Tester: It's a bit surreal, to hear that "boats are lower in the water"...
• [15:33] Torley Tester: that's Second Life for ya.
• [15:33] Alexa Linden: lol
• [15:33] Yuu Nakamichi: heh
• [15:33] Alexa Linden: next we have VWR-3749
• [15:33] Alexa Linden: Votes: 0 - Windlight linkage fails on standalone build due to no boost_regex linkage
• [15:33] Squirrel Wood: submarines generally tend to be somewhat "lower" in the water ;)
• [15:33] Daedalus Young: which has Fix Pending
• [15:33] Alexa Linden: says
• [15:33] Alexa Linden: yup
• [15:34] Torley Tester: Hmmm this may already be fixed then? Check with Tofu and resolve.
• [15:34] Alexa Linden: I can ask him and update as needed
• [15:34] Torley Tester: Thanks. :)
• [15:34] Alexa Linden: next....
• [15:34] Alexa Linden: WEB-336
• [15:35] Alexa Linden: Votes: 5 - Land Auctions Completed Auctions no longer available.
• [15:35] Aric Linden: let's take that and give it to jeff linden
• [15:35] Aric Linden: or Rx
• [15:35] Torley Tester: I saw this one ages ago...
• [15:35] Torley Tester: I think Concierge might've said something about it...
• [15:35] Torley Tester: *checks email*
• [15:35] Squirrel Wood: OMy. Are we heading for a new record today? ^^
• [15:35] Alexa Linden: do you have a preference between the two?
• [15:35] Alexa Linden: hahaha
• [15:35] Alexa Linden: nope
• [15:36] Celierra Darling: New record? :p
• [15:36] Torley Tester: Hm no I don't see previous Concierge advice on this. Yeah, let's see what Jeff says... add Cyn and Jack as watchers I think.
• [15:36] Alexa Linden: is going through Pjiras
• [15:36] Alexa Linden: ok - sending to jeff
• [15:36] Aric Linden: triage processing record
• [15:36] Torley Tester: I suspect there was a reason why it was removed, but not sure offhand.
• [15:36] Torley Tester: There wasn't an announcement tho.
• [15:36] Alexa Linden: next is WEB-341
• [15:36] Alexa Linden: Votes: 3 - Account summary not displaying country of residence (for VAT), option to change country missing as well
• [15:37] Torley Tester: Sounds like one for Studio Lux!
• [15:37] Aric Linden: yep
• [15:37] Alexa Linden: do they have a group setup in pjira?
• [15:37] Torley Tester: To Morpheus...
• [15:37] Aric Linden: take in and assign to morpheus
• [15:37] Torley Tester: Jinx. =)
• [15:37] Torley Tester: Hahaha.
• [15:37] Alexa Linden: done
• [15:37] Aric Linden: feels redundant today for some reason
• [15:37] Squirrel Wood: There is no spoon!
• [15:38] Alexa Linden: hahaha
• [15:38] Torley Tester: Aric: I don't think so, the solidarity is encouraging!
• [15:38] Torley Tester: :D
• [15:38] Torley Tester: Always feels better to get an informed second opinion.
• [15:38] Aric Linden: torley, agreed completely
• [15:38] Alexa Linden: :P
• [15:38] Aric Linden: next one is a sidewinder one
• [15:38] Alexa Linden: SVC-1127 ?
• [15:38] Alexa Linden: ok
• [15:38] Torley Tester: Yeah all that hawt Havok4-y goodness.
• [15:38] Aric Linden: yep
• [15:38] Alexa Linden: hahaha
• [15:39] Alexa Linden: WEB-359
• [15:39] Alexa Linden: Votes: 2 - Password reset doesn't work
• [15:39] Torley Tester: *notes Alexa's earlier comment*
• [15:39] Torley Tester: Latest comment, "The secret pet's name challenge successful/unsuccesful redirection is buggy atm, IMHO." That should be verified.
• [15:40] Alexa Linden: hahaa
• [15:40] Alexa Linden: I read that and laughed
• [15:40] Alexa Linden: this is older
• [15:40] Alexa Linden: I wonder if it's still a problem?
• [15:40] Torley Tester: Yeah I wonder too...
• [15:40] Torley Tester: I haven't heard recent complaints of it.
• [15:40] Celierra Darling: tries...
• [15:40] Alexa Linden: want me to post?
• [15:40] Alexa Linden: thanks Celierra!
• [15:40] Aric Linden: been fixed I think
• [15:40] Torley Tester:  :)
• [15:41] Alexa Linden: ya
• [15:41] Alexa Linden: waits for Celierra's response
• [15:41] Alexa Linden: in the mean time
• [15:41] Aric Linden: hums the theme from the magnificient seven
• [15:41] Alexa Linden: WEB-366
• [15:41] Torley Tester: Good ol' Morricone.
• [15:41] Alexa Linden: Votes: 1 - Contact Information, Email Address Does Not Accept PlusSign As Part of Valid Email Address
• [15:42] Aric Linden: glances at torley
• [15:42] Torley Tester: That sounds easily enough to verify.
• [15:42] Torley Tester: *easy
• [15:42] Squirrel Wood: afaik a + sign isn't valid
• [15:43] Aric Linden: I think that's elmer bernstein
• [15:43] Torley Tester: Oh you're right Aric.
• [15:43] Torley Tester: Getting my Westerns mixed up.
• [15:43] Aric Linden: oh, with regard to the bug, let's take it and let web decide how they want to deal with it
• [15:43] Aric Linden: nods at torley - easy to do on that one too
• [15:43] Alexa Linden: ok
• [15:43] Squirrel Wood: Ha!
• [15:43] Celierra Darling: (Previous worked for me with "favorite book", going to see if changing the question will screw it up)
• [15:43] Squirrel Wood: The plus sign is allowed in mail addresses and there is no reason not to use it. A common usage is for defining sub-addresses. Example: The user 'joe' with the mail address 'joe@example.com' can set up mail addresses like 'joe+list@example.com' if he needs more then one address.
• [15:44] Torley Tester: Squirrel, I've tried that on Gmail before...
• [15:44] Squirrel Wood: [1]
• [15:44] Squirrel Wood: has a nice summary
• [15:44] Alexa Linden: ready ofr the next one?
• [15:44] Alexa Linden: for*
• [15:45] Alexa Linden: WEB-323
• [15:45] Alexa Linden: Votes: 1 - logged60 not updating
• [15:45] Aric Linden: Do we still have this on the website?
• [15:45] Daedalus Young: is an old issue
• [15:45] Alexa Linden: old as in fixed?
• [15:45] Daedalus Young: old as in months old
• [15:45] Alexa Linden: ahh ok
• [15:45] Daedalus Young: and not updated since
• [15:46] Alexa Linden: closed as fixed and ask if this is still an issue?
• [15:46] Harleen Gretzky: Not on the web site anymore
• [15:46] Alexa Linden: thanks Harleen
• [15:47] Celierra Darling: Her chart seems to be current, if it's what I think it is: [2]
• [15:47] Torley Tester: Yeah that's from a long time ago.
• [15:48] Alexa Linden: next up is VWR-4336
• [15:48] Alexa Linden: Votes: 0 - WL: CRASHER on login
• [15:48] Aric Linden: I think lex says it all
• [15:48] Torley Tester: Lex is so helpful.
• [15:49] Torley Tester: Resolve as Needs More Info please!
• [15:49] Alexa Linden: noted
• [15:49] Aric Linden: I think Alexa is going to become the new record holder
• [15:49] Torley Tester: WL: CRASHER sounds like some kind of horror movie.
• [15:49] Torley Tester: Go Alexa go!
• [15:49] Alexa Linden: hahaaha
• [15:49] Alexa Linden: next up is SVC-1246
• [15:49] Alexa Linden: Votes: 0 - Caledon SteamSkyCity cannot be seen from rest of estate, can see rest of estate from inside but cannot fly out.
• [15:50] Torley Tester: IT STALKS YOU WHEN YOU SLEEP... *shkshkshk...* THE CRASHER.
• [15:50] Torley Tester: OK, looks like that should be assigned to Sidewinder and imported, priority to Critical.
• [15:50] Squirrel Wood: sims may not be properly linked together ?
• [15:50] Aric Linden: agreed
• [15:50] Alexa Linden: done - will do and flag after meeting
• [15:50] Torley Tester: Squirrel: Yeha, it's been awhile since I saw weirdness like that, but... that's so bizarre.
• [15:51] Torley Tester: I remember one time where I could cross one-way from one region into another but not go back over the border.
• [15:51] Torley Tester: It disappeared behind my back!
• [15:51] Alexa Linden: wow
• [15:51] Torley Tester: This was long ago in 2005, tho.
• [15:51] Torley Tester: (I could teleport back in, so yes, it was still up.)
• [15:51] Yuu Nakamichi: ^.^
• [15:51] Alexa Linden: lol
• [15:52] Alexa Linden: next is SVC-1251
• [15:52] Alexa Linden: # Votes: 0 - all avatar movement is jerky walking or flying - Beyond Bobbysocks # VWR-4357(cache) - Votes: 0 - ATI HD3850 Bug with shaders,all glowing - Ro
• [15:52] Torley Tester: Hmmm... pretty vague.
• [15:52] Aric Linden: give it to sidewinder
• [15:52] Celierra Darling: (Does anyone know whether there's a way to change your own security question?)
• [15:52] Aric Linden: make him sort it out
• [15:52] Alexa Linden: hahaa ok
• [15:52] Daedalus Young: that glowing av looks cool
• [15:52] Aric Linden: I'm a little surprised at the number of havok issues today
• [15:52] Torley Tester: Celierra, I don't think so. I remember being asked that many moons ago.
• [15:53] Squirrel Wood: I might have a critical one
• [15:53] Torley Tester: Celierra, I *think* it can be done over the phone if you verify your account info, but I'm not sure what the current policy is.
• [15:53] Alexa Linden: pjira Squirrel?
• [15:53] Squirrel Wood: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-1366
• [15:53] Alexa Linden: adds to list
• [15:53] Squirrel Wood: Sidewinder knows about it
• [15:53] Torley Tester: Hmmm sounds like a good idea to import this for Sidewinder too, then?
• [15:54] Alexa Linden: yup
• [15:54] Alexa Linden: noted and will do
• [15:54] Alexa Linden: thanks Squirel
• [15:54] Harleen Gretzky: When the member owned it Share with group is checked, so they should be able to move it, correct?
• [15:54] Alexa Linden: Squirrel*
• [15:54] Squirrel Wood: if they have permission, yes
• [15:55] Celierra Darling: (Thanks Torley :) I guess that's a can't-repro from me on WEB-359 then...)
• [15:55] Harleen Gretzky: No permissions needed whe it is Share with group
• [15:55] Alexa Linden: thanks Celierra!
• [15:55] Torley Tester: Celierra: Thanks for trying in any case.
• [15:55] Aric Linden: I think thanks Celierra
• [15:55] Torley Tester:  :)
• [15:55] Alexa Linden: last up is VWR-4357
• [15:55] Aric Linden: sorry. split sentence
• [15:55] Alexa Linden: Votes: 0 - ATI HD3850 Bug with shaders,all glowing
• [15:55] Aric Linden: last one should go to pastrami
• [15:55] Aric Linden: shouldn't be a problem with the card
• [15:56] Daedalus Young: and here's when I say: that glowing av looks cool!
• [15:56] Torley Tester: Yeah, it sounds like it's several possible WL bugs... including driver version problem...
• [15:56] Torley Tester: Hahaha, folks have wanted glowing/alpha avs for eons.
• [15:56] Torley Tester: I can't say I disagree.
• [15:56] Torley Tester:  :)
• [15:56] Harleen Gretzky: lol
• [15:56] Squirrel Wood: 100% glow
• [15:56] Squirrel Wood: = white screen
• [15:56] Harleen Gretzky: I have glowing eyes :)
• [15:56] Torley Tester: I'd want to start a new alt identity, call myself Doctor Blinglord...
• [15:57] Torley Tester: and deck out all the bling in glow and particles I could find!
• [15:57] Celierra Darling: Glows have colors, though, right...? So not entirely white...? >.>
• [15:57] Squirrel Wood: you will need at LEAST 10,000 bling scripts then
• [15:57] Torley Tester: Celierra: Yeah, unless intensity is very high, then it could possibly seen as all-white.
• [15:57] Harleen Gretzky: It glows with the color of the prim
• [15:57] Torley Tester: Squirrel: LORD OF THE BLING!
• [15:57] Yuu Nakamichi: lawl
• [15:57] Squirrel Wood: I have actually seen people with over 2000 bling scripts in their avatars
• [15:58] Torley Tester: Glowing avs would be cool for those, "I'm reaching back from the light... I've come to bring you a message from the other side of avatar heaven!"
• [15:58] Alexa Linden: ouch
• [15:58] Squirrel Wood: a negative light would be nice to create shadows...
• [15:58] Torley Tester: Squirrel: I'd like to see one of those, photograph 'em, and then ask 'em to remove their excess blingage in the name of higher FPS!
• [15:58] Torley Tester: HA ha ha!
• [15:58] Alexa Linden: that's it for today everyone! We made it through 22 Pjiras!
• [15:58] Daedalus Young: w00t!
• [15:58] Alexa Linden: thank you all for your help!
• [15:58] Squirrel Wood: Yay!
• [15:58] Jason Swain: Yay
• [15:59] Squirrel Wood: \o/
• [15:59] Torley Tester: Oh congrats everyone, it is a good brisk day indeed.
• [15:59] Kevin Paisley: claps.
• [15:59] Squirrel Wood: \o/ .....
• [15:59] Yuu Nakamichi:  :)
• [15:59] Torley Tester: Those of us here know history was made!
• [15:59] Torley Tester: *waves paw in cute triumph*
• [15:59] Jason Swain: So is that a new record then?
• [15:59] Alexa Linden: hahahahahaha
• [15:59] Alexa Linden: um Aric?
• [15:59] Alexa Linden: what was the old record?
• [15:59] Squirrel Wood: wasn't the record somewhere around 28?
• [15:59] Celierra Darling: Hehe :P
• [15:59] Torley Tester: Hmmm.
• [15:59] Alexa Linden: we're close but
• [15:59] Torley Tester: *eyes suspiciously*
• [16:00] Alexa Linden: ya, squirrel
• [16:00] Alexa Linden: that;s why I thought
• [16:00] Torley Tester: Good memory.
• [16:00] Torley Tester: *lowers paw and waves it like English monarchy*
• [16:00] Alexa Linden: lol
• [16:00] Torley Tester: I must be off to next meeting, good triaging with each and all of you!