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:: Relays that implement !vision and/or mouselook enforcement ''must'' check that they are attached to an HUD attachment point (llGetAttached()). They must ignore further parameters silently. A HUD-less relay may simulate the effects using the @setenv_xxx windlight controls. --[[User:Maike Short|Maike Short]] 07:54, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
:: Relays that implement !vision and/or mouselook enforcement ''must'' check that they are attached to an HUD attachment point (llGetAttached()). They must ignore further parameters silently. A HUD-less relay may simulate the effects using the @setenv_xxx windlight controls. --[[User:Maike Short|Maike Short]] 07:54, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
::: yes --[[User:Ilana Debevec|Ilana Debevec]] 08:06, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


:: I'd suggest to use the same scale LSL uses: For color <0, 0, 0> to <1, 1, 1>. For transparency 0.0 to 1.0. Scripters are used to that. --[[User:Maike Short|Maike Short]] 07:50, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
:: I'd suggest to use the same scale LSL uses: For color <0, 0, 0> to <1, 1, 1>. For transparency 0.0 to 1.0. Scripters are used to that. --[[User:Maike Short|Maike Short]] 07:50, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
::: only reason we doing that is it's the same format as the viewer color picker. agree on the transparency, soon as we recode it we will make that correction. --[[User:Ilana Debevec|Ilana Debevec]] 08:06, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


:: There are both relays and world objects out there that implement an inofficial [[LSL Protocol/Restrained Life Relay/Mouselook|@thirdview=n]] command to enforce mouselook (for example MJ, MSM). It may be a good idea to get mouselook enforcement into the protocol specification, too. Either this way or as a similar meta command. Mouselook enforcement is something that can be very stressful for the sim and therefor I would prefer to have it in the relay instead of world objects. The are a lot of world objects out there that are written by people with very little experience. I am scared of objects that will keep the high frequency time active all time, even if they are not used. This might not be a problem on the sim of the scripter but it is a problem on sims like Stonehaven --[[User:Maike Short|Maike Short]] 07:50, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
:: There are both relays and world objects out there that implement an inofficial [[LSL Protocol/Restrained Life Relay/Mouselook|@thirdview=n]] command to enforce mouselook (for example MJ, MSM). It may be a good idea to get mouselook enforcement into the protocol specification, too. Either this way or as a similar meta command. Mouselook enforcement is something that can be very stressful for the sim and therefor I would prefer to have it in the relay instead of world objects. The are a lot of world objects out there that are written by people with very little experience. I am scared of objects that will keep the high frequency time active all time, even if they are not used. This might not be a problem on the sim of the scripter but it is a problem on sims like Stonehaven --[[User:Maike Short|Maike Short]] 07:50, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


:: Maike... point 1, yes. point 2, only reason we doing that is it's the same format as the viewer color picker. agree on the transparency, soon as we recode it we will make that correction. point 3, that's why I'm posting this, perhaps it can be worked into the protocol, but that's also why we're doing this as a meta, don't want to step on the @'s in the protocol. --[[User:Ilana Debevec|Ilana Debevec]] 08:06, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
::: that's why I'm posting this, perhaps it can be worked into the protocol, but that's also why we're doing this as a meta, don't want to step on the @'s in the protocol. --[[User:Ilana Debevec|Ilana Debevec]] 08:06, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 


:: Added the !visionclear . Had it, forgot it. Ooops.
:: Added the !visionclear . Had it, forgot it. Ooops.

Revision as of 03:37, 15 February 2009

Functions in development

!vision

Description
meta command to control what the victim can see while under restraint. This will allow a full range of vision control of the victim. Full blindness, partial, color, textures, etc..
Implementation
using a small microprim that hides on the back of our RelayHUD, we can expand and texture this to control the sight of the victim. Put them in a dark cell, they go blind. Or in a forcefield change the color, make it partially transparant, put up a texture, etc. We are/will also be using this as a "MouseLook" enforcer to punish a victim when they won't stay in mouselook (get out of mouselook, go totally blind). Currently being implemented in devices from THINK KINK.
Syntax
!vision/(transparency)/(color)/(texture)
(transparancy) = % transparent to make the HUD prim cover
(color) = color for the HUD covering prim in 'normal' RGB format <r,g,b> 0-255
(texture) = UUID for a texture to apply to the prim
Examples
Total blackout "!vision/0/<0,0,0>/TEXTURE_BLANK"
Light fog "!vision/50/<128,128,128>/TEXTURE_BLANK"
In a plywood box no matter where they look "!vision/0/<255,255,255>/TEXTURE_PLYWOOD"
Compatibility
since this is a metacommand, relays that don't support this should ignore it

--Ilana Debevec 06:57, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

!visionclear

Description
complimentary command to !vision. Reset and remove all !vision restrictions.
Syntax
!visionclear
Compatibility
same as !vision, if the relay can't, then don't
Discussion and Suggestions
Relays that implement !vision and/or mouselook enforcement must check that they are attached to an HUD attachment point (llGetAttached()). They must ignore further parameters silently. A HUD-less relay may simulate the effects using the @setenv_xxx windlight controls. --Maike Short 07:54, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
yes --Ilana Debevec 08:06, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


I'd suggest to use the same scale LSL uses: For color <0, 0, 0> to <1, 1, 1>. For transparency 0.0 to 1.0. Scripters are used to that. --Maike Short 07:50, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
only reason we doing that is it's the same format as the viewer color picker. agree on the transparency, soon as we recode it we will make that correction. --Ilana Debevec 08:06, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


There are both relays and world objects out there that implement an inofficial @thirdview=n command to enforce mouselook (for example MJ, MSM). It may be a good idea to get mouselook enforcement into the protocol specification, too. Either this way or as a similar meta command. Mouselook enforcement is something that can be very stressful for the sim and therefor I would prefer to have it in the relay instead of world objects. The are a lot of world objects out there that are written by people with very little experience. I am scared of objects that will keep the high frequency time active all time, even if they are not used. This might not be a problem on the sim of the scripter but it is a problem on sims like Stonehaven --Maike Short 07:50, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
that's why I'm posting this, perhaps it can be worked into the protocol, but that's also why we're doing this as a meta, don't want to step on the @'s in the protocol. --Ilana Debevec 08:06, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


Added the !visionclear . Had it, forgot it. Ooops.

--Ilana Debevec 10:44, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

!who

Description
meta command to pass the UUID of WHO is trying to operate your relay, not just WHAT device and the OWNER of the device (more often than not, WHO's the operator and WHO's the owner are NOT the same avatar).
Background
we constantly have people coming to our store wanting a way to know WHO is trying to control their relay, it's almost become a mantra "I don't care WHAT it is, I want to know WHO it is!". This is a simple way to pass that information from a device to the relay when the device attempts use the relay.
Syntax
!who/(key)
(key) is the UUID of the AV that you wish to present to the relay.
Implementation
as THINK KINK is implementing this, we are making a few caveats -
We are making the !who as the FIRST entry in a command string, so it can be picked up immediately and used in an ASK dialog (if necessary)
IF the !who on a new command from an object is the same as the last !who from the same object, no ASK necessary
IF the !who on a new command from an object is DIFFERENT from the last !who from the same object, ASK again
IF no !who on a command string, normal object verification rules apply
Further Points of Implementation
The ASK message will change if a !who command comes in, instead of "Dastardly Device owned by Random Avatar want's to control your relay, ALLOW/DENY?"
the message becomes "Crafty Avatar wants to control your relay using Random Avatar's Dastardly Device, ALLOW/DENY?"
if a !who is present, then should the victim DENY the request, an IM can go back to the 'clicker' "Sitting Duck has denied your attempt to control their relay".
Extension of the ALLOW/DENY dialog to include ALLOW/DENY/ALWAYS ALLOW (effectively give this AV 'Auto' Permission, no matter the relay setting)/ALWAYS ASK (give this AV the 'Ask' requirement no matter the relay setting)/ALWAYS DENY (effectively 'blacklist' this AV from any attempts to control your AV)
Means of saving/restoring these AV lists (allow/ask/ban) to/from the relay as backup/restore of data
This function is currently being implemented in the THINK KINK tkRLV 5IVE relay and THINK KINK devices.
Compatibility
since this is a metacommand, relays that don't support this should ignore it

--Ilana Debevec 10:44, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

!handover proposal

Proposed Change
Add meta command !handover/key/type
Justification
There should be a way to handover the victim from one world object to another without the having to ask for permission again
Requirements
The change must enable world objects to be easily compatible with both old and new relays. The relay must ensure that the target object is ready.
Syntax
!handover/(key)/(type)|!release
(key) is the id of the target object
(type) : 0 lift all restrictions of the source object, 1 keep them, it is the responsibility of the target object to keep them in mind
Compatibility
Immediately after the "!handover" a "!release" command must be sent by the world objects. Relays which support !handover must ignore the rest of the chat line, including that !release command.
Old Relays which do not support "!handover" will ignore it and execute the "!release" command instead. So they are available for the target object in the old way (e. g. may ask for permission again).
The relay must ignore further "/"-parameters for future extension of the command.
Note on ping/pong
The relay must ensure with the !ping meachnism that the target object is available. The target object, however, might not see the ping, for example because of a slow intersim teleport. The target object must respond to !pong on arrival anyway.

Alpha Code

TODO
Think about an additional "/"-paramter meaning "let that target object control the relay but keep me on the list, too" for relays that support multiple world objects. This needs a bit more of thinking because the policy of ignoring !release does not work this simple anymore. Since Dominatech's sample code is under a very restrictive license, i am unable to look at it, to see who much work this would be. --Maike Short 08:54, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

1.030

None known

1.020

Version 1.020 reintroduces all the problems listed in 1.014.

Foreign Channel Chat

Discovered by
Maike Short
Description
An object can force the agent to say any lower case text on any channel using @getstatus
Note
Relays which do not add any restriction on their own (like @detach=n) may be abused using @gestatus to trigger dialog responses, gag talk or other scripts like "to buy as gift, say the name of the receiver on channel /x". Any version of the reference implementation smaller than (not including) 1.015 (but including 1.020 which is based on 1.014) are affected by this.
Workaround
none
Fixed
in Maike Short's Relay
Proposed fixed
Add "this-is-a-script-generated-message-beyond-the-control-of-the-agent/" at the beginning of @getstatus-replies on all channel by issuing this as the very first restriction. This still allows to trigger gags but it will include a human readable warning (if you speak Gagish well enough). The usual "to buy as gift, say the name of the receiver on channel /x" scripts will try to resolve this text as part of the name and will fail because such long avatar names are not allowed. Other scripts waiting for commands are very likely not to accept this text either. A more secure solution would be to define one single channel which must be used for such queries but that would break a lot of content.
It would probably be sufficient to "ko" @getstatus=x requests where x < 1000. Most gags or other scripts that expect human-typed channel numbers stick to < 1000, whereas most furniture looking for status use much larger channel numbers (mine use random channels, but with a minimum of 1000000, for example). --Julia Banshee
I agree that disallowing low channel numbers for all query types may be a good idea and I am not objecting a change of the spec although it has a low change of breaking content. (Well, since Marine is back, i can easily say this without having to think about all the time it will cost me to talk to affected people). I strongly suggest, however, to put something at the beginning of @getstatus replies anyway. Fixed high level channels with a filter to the owner are sometimes used for debugging. (Yes, I am having a concrete object in my mind). --Maike Short 11:03, 18 September 2008 (PDT)

Foreign Public Chat

Discovered by
Maike Short
Description
An object can force the agent to say any text in public chat using @getstatus=0 and use similar functions (like @version) to spam other text there.
Note
This allows the same abuse mentioned in the above entry, too. But being public chat makes even non abusable cases very annoying.
Workaround
none
Fixed
in the Restraint Life Viewer version 1.12.4. For older viewers the relay should prevent it: Maike Short's Relay
Proposed fixed
The relay should filter all queries directed to answer on channel 0 for Restraint Life Viewer version 1.12.3 and lwoer. Add this at the end of the huge if / else if / else if block in executeRLVCommand

<lsl>

   else if ((integer) param == 0) {
       // this is either an unknown param (not "n", "add", "y", "rem", "force")
       // or a query which should be answered on the public chat channel 0.
       ack(cmd_id, id, command, "ko");
       return;
   }    

</lsl>

Relay Crash in Ask mode

Discovered by
Maike Short
Description
A malicious objects scans for all avatars within the sensor range. For each avatar a new object is rezes out of the content. This objects sends 10 messages to the relay each of about 1000 characters causing sPendingMessage to overflow. After the 10 messages are send these objects die making tracking very difficult.
Note
Some relays accept commands from objects more than 20100 meters away so the attacking objects can be hidden far away.
Workaround
None
Open
although fixed in version 1.15 it was reintroduced by the revert in version 1.02


1.015

The below problems are fixed here, except for the forced sit issue below.

1.014

The following problems occured in version 1.014 and have been fixed:

Stuck: Accepting Permission Dialog after !release

Discovered by
Maike Short
Workaround
Don't accept requests after you have been freed. In case it happend, reenter the cage / sit down again; relog.
Fixed
in 1.015

Force Sit during Login on the control object instead of the forced-sit one

Discovered by
Azoth Amat
Workaround
Always send a "@sit:<id>=force" command if you want a forced sit on relog, even if the victim is already sitting.
Fix
change in timer(): sendRLCmd ("@sit:"+(string)kSource+"=force"); to sendRLCmd ("@sit:"+(string)lastForceSitDestination+"=force");
Note
This prevents @unsit to work in case the person set down without being forced if the furniture in question hasn't sent a @sit:<id>=force command. (This should probably be considered a bug in the furniture, not the relay.)
Fixed
in 1.015 (but that fix breaks other things, forcing sits when not appropriate), and 1.02 (that fix always works, assuming the furniture is properly setting the @sit destination)
Sending a bogus force sit on sit as you suggested may not work if force-sits are filtered. As far as I know there is no way for an attachment to detect the object the avatar is sitting on. So the relay will not be able to tell real force-sits (which should be subjected to the filter) and bogus force-sits for this problem apart.
It could accept a force-sit on the control-object but this would allow to kidnap an agent sitting on an other object. Well, the same can happen with my approach of using the sending object as fall back. Could you give an example for a forced sit when not appropriate with my approach? This may reveal other aspects of the problem.
The specification says "Force sit if unsit is prevented when relogging" in "Relay requirements" so I think objects that just send @unsit=n without force-sit should not be called buggy. If it turns out the current approach does cause more problems than it fixes it may be worth to adjust the spec. But this will cause existing world object to break so should not be taken lightly. --Maike Short 12:55, 17 September 2008 (PDT)

Stuck on crash/relog with objects asking for relay upon being sat on

Discovered by
Gregor Mougin
Problem
Many objects check for presence of a relay and the RR viewer by asking for the !version when sat on. If the user crashes, and the object was used by someone else in the meantime (or, for testing, reset), the relay enforces all previous restrictions whereas the object doesn't know of them.
Workaround
none
Suggested fix

<lsl> --- RLV_v1.014a 2008-07-06 23:17:14.000000000 +0200 +++ RLV_v1.014a-xxx 2008-07-06 23:18:32.000000000 +0200 @@ -545,10 +545,16 @@

                loginPendingForceSit = FALSE;
                releaseRestrictions();
            }

- else - { - sendRLCmd ("@sit:"+(string)kSource+"=force"); - } + // XXX + // DON'T do it here + // Some (many?) objects ask the relay for the !version upon + // sitting on it. Since the !version is interpreted the same + // as !pong, the relay would think the object is still available + // and put all restrictions on the wearer unconditionally. + //else + //{ + // sendRLCmd ("@sit:"+(string)kSource+"=force"); + //}

        }
 
        if (!loginPendingForceSit && !loginWaitingForPong)

@@ -583,6 +589,18 @@

            loginWaitingForPong = FALSE; // whatever the message, it is for me => it satisfies the ping request
 

+ // XXX + // force sit here instead of unconditionally in the timer event + if (loginPendingForceSit) + { + integer agentInfo = llGetAgentInfo(llGetOwner()); + + loginPendingForceSit = FALSE; + if (!(agentInfo & AGENT_SITTING)) + sendRLCmd ("@sit:"+(string)kSource+"=force"); + } + // end XXX +

            if (!isObjectKnow(id))
            {
                debug("asking for permission because kSource is NULL_KEY");

</lsl>

Fixed
in 1.015 by specially looking for the !pong reply so that the fix works for cages as well (no "force sit" in this situation but a collision detection which is triggered on login, too).