User talk:Oz Linden

Project:Contribution Agreement

Hello Oz,
I noticed that you moved Project:Contribution Agreement to LLO:Contribution Agreement and that you changed the wording to fit the SL Viewer project. I think that you're mistaken about the original intention of the page, as it isn't (or wasn't) related to the SL Viewer, but to the SL Wiki. The "Project" namespace is a meta namespace that's supposed to contain Wiki-rules / guidelines. When you edit any page in the Wiki, the following text is displayed by default above the summary field and the save/preview buttons:

All content submitted to Second Life Wiki is contributed to Linden Lab under the Second Life Wiki Contribution Agreement (see Project:Contribution Agreement for details). Linden Lab will make your contribution available under the Creative Commons Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 license (see Project:Copyrights for details). If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then don't submit it here.

You are also promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource. DO NOT SUBMIT COPYRIGHTED WORK WITHOUT PERMISSION!

With your change, this message isn't correct anymore. I think you should either revert your change, or adjust the text shown above. You can access it at MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning. You'd also have to change it at other spots, like Project:Terms of Use, Project:Editing Guidelines, etc.
See Special:WhatLinksHere/Project:Contribution Agreement for a list of potentially affected pages.
Cheers,
-- ^{(talk|contribs)} 02:00, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

There is more on the wiki then just viewer documentation. Several SL communities use it to help organize, coordinate and document themselves; not just the viewer. This feels a bit like a rescoping of the wiki; that it isn't to be used for anything that doesn't pertain directly to the viewer. It makes me uncomfortable. -- Strife ^{(talk|contribs)} 06:32, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you both for your comments... what you saw was a transitional condition. As you'll see now, we've replaced that page with one that is more appropriate. - Oz

Hi Oz,

I'm not sure if you realize that, by replacing the CA with the Terms of Use, you just changed the licensing for all upcoming contributions to this Wiki... Rob created the Contribution Agreement in order to do the same as with the Viewer: To allow LL to gain shared ownership in the contributions so they can re-license and re-use them at will. As of today (in case the changes stick), all upcoming contributions to this Wiki are just CC BY-SA 3.0. No shared ownership anymore. I welcome that change, as the shared ownership made it hard to import most other content without violating copyright... In case it was intentional, then I applaud it. :)

OK, enough smart-alecing. Going back under my rock now.

Cheers, -- ^{(talk|contribs)} 18:49, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Third Party Icons

Since LL doesn't own the icons, should they really be Protecting them? Can LL even legally upload them, is the CC compatible with the GPL or does the Contributer Agreement cover this? Just thinking aloud. -- Strife ^{(talk|contribs)} 06:29, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Those icons are provided to us by the authors for this express purpose. They are protected so that ordinary wiki users cannot change them and so change the Third Party Viewer Directory. There is a process for the viewer author to provide an updated icon should they wish to use them. - Oz

I probably could have found that out if I hadn't flow off the handle and instead done some research. I assumed ill and I'm sorry. I'm glad that this was all well thought out. Thank you for taking the time to answer. -- Strife ^{(talk|contribs)} 23:38, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

llemployee, email, tweeter templates

Hi Oz, I added an (empty) llemployee template to the bottom of your user page. Hope that's fine.

You may also want to consider this template for inclusion:

 {{#widget:Email|email="oz@lindenlab.com"}}  

which produces:

With regard to Twitter, some LL employees added themselves to Linden_Lab_Official:Twitter, while other just used the {{tweeter}} template, and others manually added something like this:

Can be found on twitter.

--oobscure 01:59, 29 April 2011 (PDT)

Then the spammers just need to glean the raw's to get the email address. -- Strife ^{(talk|contribs)} 11:31, 22 July 2012 (PDT)

Beta/* articles need update

The Beta/BlueSteel, Beta/LeTigre, Beta/Magnum all need to be updated so they include 2012 release notes. It's a 10 sec fix for each but they are all protected ~_~ so I have to poke someone else to do it. -- Strife ^{(talk|contribs)} 11:21, 20 January 2012 (PST)

HVsL

Maybe move the HVsL into the "Linden Lab Official" namespace? 6 months seems a bit long for a first offense -_-' -- Strife ^{(talk|contribs)} 11:24, 22 July 2012 (PDT)

There should not be any need to put something like that in a protected namespace; it is completely clear that page is a communication regarding our programs and policies, and the change contributed absolutely nothing to anyones understanding (especially since it was absolutely false). As for the duration... those who want to tear down what we are trying to build here in the open source community will find that I am going to be increasingly intolerant of incivility and destructiveness.