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[12:58] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): Hi Rand
[12:58] Irene Muni: Hi rand
[12:58] Adamburp Adamczyk: aloha
[12:58] Irene Muni: Rand*
[12:59] Cummere Mayo: hello rand....
[12:59] Cummere Mayo: /me hides the pitchforks
[12:59] Irene Muni: Daniel and Bronson. cats toguether XD
[12:59]
[12:59] Cummere Mayo: meows?
[12:59] Lisa Fossett: /me waves collective hello to everyone
[12:59] agenda is in the wiki https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Tools_User_Group #Agenda
[12:59] Amanda Linden: hey all, looks like we can get started.
[12:59] Cummere Mayo: on second thought
[12:59] Amanda Linden: rand take it away!
[12:59] Cummere Mayo: why hide it
[12:59]
[13:00] want to fill everyone in on our plans for the SL Knowledge Base
[13:00] of the launch of the new community platform....
[13:00] the KB from the wiki to the new platform
[13:00] stuff will remain on the wiki
[13:00] Amanda Linden: you can read more here..btw. vogt's post yesterday.
[13:01] Amanda Linden: http://blogs.secondlife.com/community/features/blog/2011/02/16/a-new-community-platform-coming-march-2nd
[13:01]
[13:01] like, I can go into more detail on our plans...
[13:01] Irene Muni: please :)
[13:01]
[13:01] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): can you confirm if it´s Lithium?
[13:01]
[13:02] want to field Torben's question
[13:02] Cummere Mayo: /me shudders at the idea of lithium
[13:02] Amanda Linden: yeah, gimme a second.
[13:02] KB...
[13:02] of the articles currently in https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Category:Knowledge_Base
[13:02] moving
[13:02] with them in batches, tho.
[13:02] Amanda Linden: yes, it is on the lithium platform.
[13:03] Cummere Mayo: oh god
[13:03] Cummere Mayo: so much for any semblance of privacy
[13:03] the most popular articles
[13:03] Amanda Linden: cummere, let's hear the rest of what rand has to say...
[13:03] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): Ignore my feet and have a seat Blondin
[13:03] goes on, we will migrate the restof the articles
[13:03] Lord of Dee (ciaran.laval): Why are you moving the KB? It hasn't long been moved.
[13:04] Irene Muni: questions now or at the end?
[13:04] is to integrate it with the rest of the community tools
[13:04]
[13:04] good ways to promote threads from (e.g.) forums to KB
[13:05] will remain on wiki...
[13:05] Cummere Mayo: ><
[13:05] Amanda Linden: irene, let's give rand the floor and save questions for the end.
[13:05] Lord of Dee (ciaran.laval): Thanks Rand so we should improved consistency
[13:05] Irene Muni: Great Amanda :)
[13:05] and product information that is not appropriate for community contributions; these articles are kept in the “Linden Lab Official” namespace on the wiki. 
Content for the Viewer 2 help system, including the comprehensive glossary.
[13:05] Amanda Linden: (thanks irene)
[13:05] the big chat text)
[13:05]
[13:05] Jeremy Linden: Blondin, do you want me to find you a chair?
[13:06] nutshell, KB info thatis relevant for most users will go to the new community platform
[13:06] Adamburp Adamczyk: i gav blondin a seat
[13:06] plus dev. info will stay on wiki
[13:06] Nathan Adored: wow, buzy place this time
[13:06] move of the KB, the need for the Flagged Revisions extension goes away....
[13:07] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): *YAY*
[13:07] we are planning on removing it.
[13:07]
[13:07] been somewhat problematic, true...
[13:07] Irene Muni: yes LOL
[13:07] all I have at this point...
[13:08] Irene Muni: Is there any plan about the translation of LL Official documents and KB documents?
[13:08] Lithium is convenient to migrate data *from*, as well... for the next time we go through this exercise.
[13:08] launch we will have more to discuss...
[13:08]
[13:08] Cummere Mayo: lithium is known for being privacy invasive and for massive tracking...
[13:08] Irene Muni: GREAT!!!
[13:08] Irene Muni: lol
[13:08] going to migrate some translated content initially
[13:08] Cummere Mayo: what will be done to mitigate that?
[13:08] Amanda Linden: one of the big benefits is an integrated system--integrated search.
[13:08] want to re-engage the community translation project on the new platform
[13:08] Irene Muni: God hears you Rand! XD
[13:08]
[13:09] Amanda Linden: and the ability to transfer other pieces of content generated in forums or sl answers and bring them over to kb articles.
[13:09] Amanda Linden: :)
[13:09] : ah the search is gonna be fixed ?
[13:09] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): many localized articles are somewhat outdated
[13:09] Amanda Linden: search in lithium is a dream.
[13:09] Irene Muni: I'm not sure if I can speak about the new platform, I signed the NDA LOL But it's true, search is great
[13:09] a good point,but I can't speak to it at this point.
[13:09] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): would it make sense to try and update the outdated articles before the migration?
[13:09] is a big win
[13:10] have that on our radar....
[13:10] Cummere Mayo: I repeat my question about privacy and user tracking
[13:10] Maggie Darwin: I hadn't heard that search had suddenly become a difficult problem. Then I remebered I'm in SL.
[13:10] to that
[13:10] Amanda Linden: well, we don't really have search at all in jive.
[13:10] Irene Muni: LOL
[13:10] raise the privacy concerns with our tech lead on teh project
[13:10] Maggie Darwin: Exactly.
[13:11] Cummere Mayo: youre implementing a privacy invasive platform and you cannot speak to how youre going to inform / mitigate the issues?
[13:11] Amanda Linden: cummere, at this point, we cannot discuss this point.
[13:11] Cummere Mayo: ...
[13:11] personally, because i am just working on the doc part of it
[13:11] base)
[13:11] Fine Caliber: /me meditates.
[13:11] to the people who DO know, tho...
[13:11] Amanda Linden: ask us about this at a later date when we have the right people here.
[13:11] Cummere Mayo: can you please bring someone that can?
[13:11] Cummere Mayo: preferably before implementation
[13:11] Adamburp Adamczyk: /me agrees
[13:12] Amanda Linden: yes, we can. we'll add this to oru to do list for next time.
[13:12] we can
[13:12] Maggie Darwin: "Lithium Technologies provides Social CRM solutions for the enterprise. "....that Lithium?
[13:12] Amanda Linden: other questions?
[13:12] Amanda Linden: yes.
[13:12] Cummere Mayo: yes maggie
[13:12] Cummere Mayo: aka the platrom best buy got sued for using recently
[13:12] Maggie Darwin: Joy. Buzzword nirvana.
[13:13] Irene Muni: Do yoyu know if the format for SL Ansers tested remains in the definitive platform?
[13:13] Amanda Linden: it's a very strong piece of technology.
[13:13] Irene Muni: Answers*
[13:13] Amanda Linden: sl answers is integrated into the new platform.
[13:13] Maggie Darwin: "On May 11, 2010, Lithium acquired social media monitoring (SMM) provider, Scout Labs, whose service allows brands to engage with their customers beyond the community and monitor, map, and measure customer conversations on the social web.[8]"
[13:13] Irene Muni: Yes Amanda, but the testers had many comoplaints about the format :)
[13:13] believe the implementation has changed substantially since the preview test
[13:13] Cummere Mayo: which is what best buy got sued over
[13:13] Irene Muni: ARRHHHG!!! :(
[13:13] Cummere Mayo: and what freaks me the hell out
[13:13] Fine Caliber: [8]?
[13:13] Maggie Darwin: "the platform incorporates elaborate rating systems for contributors, with ranks, badges, and “kudos counts.”[4]"
[13:13] Fine Caliber: oh it's copy paste from wiki.
[13:14] Amanda Linden: actually, a lot of the things that came through the private testers were implemented and/or will be at a later date.
[13:14] Amanda Linden: some not.
[13:14] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): Can you tell us something about Contribution-Based Roles?
[13:14] Amanda Linden: that's something that lexie could speak to, but she's not here.
[13:14] Amanda Linden: sorry.
[13:14] Cummere Mayo: /me alughs at the idea LL used private testers
[13:14] Amanda Linden: more on that next week.
[13:14] Irene Muni: Well, we wait, but in our opinion it's not a good format for SL Answers, but thanks for answer :)
[13:14] give you a high-level overview...
[13:14] knows much more
[13:15] Cummere Mayo: amanda with all due respect using fanbois and fangirls is not a legitmate test group
[13:15] particpate more in the community you gain rights to do more on the platform
[13:15] Adamburp Adamczyk: /me would like answer ref last week;s question over who is g-team nowadays
[13:15] spend so much time and respond to so many threads, you get the ability to edit KB articles, etc.
[13:16] Maggie Darwin: Sounds ripe for gaming and drama. But that would never happen here. :-)
[13:16] Amanda Linden: cumit gives credit and new capabilities to folks who move up the contribution ranks.
[13:16] are an active participant, you get granted more capabilities..
[13:16] Irene Muni: We will change this: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-1498 for Kudos and Ranks XD
[13:16] Amanda Linden: part of what it gives you is the ability to give kudos to content that is valuable/helpful.
[13:16] : click
[13:17] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): that does sound helpful
[13:17] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): giving kudos that is
[13:17] Amanda Linden: yes, it's very good. great content gets elevated naturally.
[13:17] Irene Muni: That sounds to me as NOCommunity, Ranks??? Just my opinion :)
[13:18] any negative kudo / anit-karma? else... the more controversial a poster, the better.
[13:18] Amanda Linden: we will have moderators in teh system 7 days a week dealing with flagged content.
[13:18] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): will the be localized sections still?
[13:18] Amanda Linden: the moderation that oyu'll find in lithium--and on our side--will be much better.
[13:18] Amanda Linden: yes, localized. for sure.
[13:19] should help)
[13:19] Irene Muni: Active and intelligent moderation :)
[13:19] be localized sections in KB and Answers
[13:20] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): I thought more about the forums part because the german forums now are a pain to read
[13:20] Irene Muni: WOW, I can die happy, localidez sections in KB :)
[13:20] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): hehe Irene :)
[13:21] Irene Muni: :)
[13:21] this point the UI won't be localized, but we will provide a place for (e.g.) German content
[13:21] Amanda Linden: :)
[13:21] set expectations...
[13:21] Maggie Darwin: "My hovercraft is full of eels."
[13:21]
[13:21] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): o.O
[13:21] Irene Muni: :)
[13:21] Jeremy Linden: That sounds like an SL Answers question.
[13:21] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): no localized UI?
[13:22]
[13:22] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): ...
[13:22] Irene Muni: What about the actual content in forums? I know that content remains but will be "closed threads"?
[13:23] Irene Muni: Lag or silent? LOL
[13:23] Irene Muni: Silent XD
[13:23] Adamburp Adamczyk: /me tempted to yell "onigokko"
[13:23] me: the *old* old forums content... will be preserved, I presume?
[13:23] Maggie Darwin: "It's too hard to implement achievements in SL directly, but we can buy it off the shelf to crowdsource the docs."
[13:23] Amanda Linden: qie--yes. it will be available and searchable in archives.
[13:23] answer your question, but I can find out
[13:23] Irene Muni: Thanks :)
[13:23]
[13:24] Irene Muni: No Kudos for Rand XD
[13:24] Cummere Mayo: Rand, my understanding is each post, question, answer, comment will have a tweet this and share this widget... will there be a way to opt out of having those?
[13:24] Adamburp Adamczyk: wil Rod be joining any of thee meetings/?
[13:24] Maggie Darwin: "Was this answer helpful? yes[] no[]"
[13:24] Irene Muni: LOL
[13:24] just not click on them, but i believe they are always displayed.
[13:24] Irene Muni: Great question Cummere
[13:25] Nathan Adored: /me gets a goofy, lopsided smile.
[13:25] Amanda Linden: rod will not be joining these meetings. sorry.
[13:25] are just looking, you don't have to log in if you dont want to
[13:25] course, you then cant post...
[13:25] Cummere Mayo: in that case i should let you know that yould be violating CA law in not allowing posters to opt out
[13:25] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): Who´s Rod?
[13:25] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): (kidding)
[13:25] Amanda Linden: cummere, we are not going to discuss this beyond what we've already shared.
[13:25] Cummere Mayo: so please change that
[13:25] Amanda Linden: torben--ha
[13:26] Fine Caliber: I think the opt out is just not ever logging in.
[13:26] Amanda Linden: so, on the agenda someone asked for a content creators email list.
[13:26] Jill Yedmore: and it works.
[13:26] Amanda Linden: good question.
[13:26] Talarus Luan: Will anyone be deprived of any functionality if they DON'T use any other social media?
[13:26] Amanda Linden: (if we're ready to move on)
[13:26] Amanda Linden: ah, good question talarus--nope.
[13:26]
[13:26] move on
[13:26] Cummere Mayo: talarus, yes because we wouldnt be able to ask questions or engage in dialogue
[13:27] Talarus Luan: O.o
[13:27] Amanda Linden: content creator email...
[13:27] Lord of Dee (ciaran.laval): There's already a scripting list
[13:27] Amanda Linden: we are in the process of looking at creating a content creator user group and that would include an email list...most likely.
[13:27] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): now that Lexie is here...
[13:27] Irene Muni: Lexie, don't fly please LOL
[13:27] Talarus Luan: She can fly if she wants to. <.<
[13:27] Amanda Linden: so, stay tuned on that. we just need to determine which linden will lead....
[13:27] Irene Muni: Lexie is OVER all the Residents XD
[13:27] Amanda Linden: so, it's on my list.
[13:28] Amanda Linden: lexie, there were some questions re: roles/ranks.
[13:28]
[13:28] Adamburp Adamczyk: did lexie get the answer for me as promised last week about who g-tem are these days? ie do they still exist?
[13:28] Irene Muni: Lexie is the CENHTER of the residents LOL
[13:28] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): ellow
[13:28] Irene Muni: CENTER*
[13:28] Adamburp Adamczyk: g-team*
[13:28]
[13:28] Adamburp Adamczyk: thank you LExie :)
[13:28] ask why some of the user groups don't show up on the google calender?
[13:28] Irene Muni: For example this group :)
[13:29] still handled by Lindens. That is not something scouts do Adam
[13:29] Amanda Linden: it should be there--on the main user group page?
[13:29]
[13:29] Amanda Linden: i can take a look at that.
[13:29] some others
[13:29] Adamburp Adamczyk: thank you Lexie, that is reassuring
[13:29] that the leads haven't added them, or there is some glitch
[13:29] Amanda Linden: probably just an oversight on my part. thanks!
[13:29]
[13:29] Amanda Linden: will make sure it's there after this meet
[13:29] Irene Muni: No Kudos for Amanda XD
[13:29] Cummere Mayo: this group is on the usergroup page
[13:29]
[13:29] Cummere Mayo: communitiy tools
[13:30] Amanda Linden: yes, but draconis is saying it's not on the gcal below.
[13:30] Irene Muni: But not in Google Calendar Cummere
[13:30] Amanda Linden: i can look at that....
[13:30] Amanda Linden: oops on my part. :)
[13:30] Amanda Linden: will add it
[13:30] Talarus Luan: Any word on if/when we will be getting a Land user group to replace Jack's office hour?
[13:30] Maggie Darwin: URL for the GCal please somebody?
[13:30] questions on ranks/roles?
[13:30] Amanda Linden: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:User_Groups
[13:30] embedded in https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:User_Groups
[13:31] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): Rand jumped in for you and did well
[13:31] Maggie Darwin: Thnax
[13:31]
[13:31] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): there´s just some concerns about gambling the system
[13:31] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): like people asking stupid questions and answering on an alt
[13:31] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): to promote themself
[13:32] Maggie Darwin: I feel like such a tool.
[13:32] a formula in place that means participation is required in more than one way. It will be a lot of work to "game" the system ㋡
[13:32] Maggie Darwin: "Gaming the system" yes
[13:32] Talarus Luan: Oh, so the new system is going to have the silly rewards thing like Jive does?
[13:33] gaming ths sytem happens, we will see it..Im sure you will help by reporting it, and we will adjust the formula if needed ㋡
[13:33] Amanda Linden: (fyi--just put our meeting on the gcal.)
[13:33]
[13:33] Lord of Dee (ciaran.laval): What sort of roles are you enisaging?
[13:33] Irene Muni: Increasing Rank for Amanda
[13:33] Talarus Luan: Yeah, the points system or whatever it is.
[13:33] - it *was* on there before, not sure what happened..
[13:33] Lord of Dee (ciaran.laval): envisaging even
[13:33] Maggie Darwin: Talarus: read the Wikipedia article on "Lithium Technologies"
[13:33] amanda what of the others not listed there, will the people running them have to add it?)
[13:33] Talarus Luan: I'm on their website directly atm.
[13:34] make sure the others are added after this mtg
[13:34]
[13:34] Amanda Linden: i can add for them. i
[13:34] Maggie Darwin: Oh, Lithum question: Is this hosted on LL servers? Or did y'all buy the SaaS dealio?
[13:34] letting us know...
[13:34] Amanda Linden: it's easy
[13:34] and roles are permissions to do more in the system. I think it makes sense for those with more experience in SL to be able to do more that helps other Residents.
[13:34] Irene Muni: I disagree with Ranks, but that is a lost battle :(
[13:35] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): will it be like visible ranks? or will it be like in JIRA?
[13:35] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): I´d prefer the JIRA way
[13:35] Talarus Luan: Oh? Like?
[13:35] Lord of Dee (ciaran.laval): After seeing what happened on the Jira a few days ago, this needs to be done carefully
[13:35] they are visible, right lexie?
[13:35] see more soon!
[13:35]
[13:35] Irene Muni: If it's implemented a EASY way for KB translations. I can die happy :)
[13:35] Talarus Luan: I've been heavy into SL scripting mentoring/support for almost 5 years. What does that net me in the "new" system? Or do I have to "prove" that effort all over again?
[13:36] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): yeah, would be nice to edit localized articles without poking Lindens
[13:36] we will be starting a localization UG soon, so you should come to that...
[13:36] Irene Muni: Applause XD
[13:36] Amanda Linden: talarus--we're looking at this item now.
[13:36] address your questions there....
[13:36] Amanda Linden: will have definitive answer on that next week.
[13:37] ㋡
[13:37] started up yet)
[13:37] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): yay Noelle is back?
[13:37] Amanda Linden: yep!
[13:37] Amanda Linden: just got back.
[13:37] Irene Muni: Lexie, the format for SL Answers is the same that in the tested Jive? (please, say "no" XD)
[13:37] Maggie Darwin: "Oh, Lithum question: Is this hosted on LL servers? Or did y'all buy the SaaS dealio?"
[13:37] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): will we get to see baby pictures in the first UG session?`
[13:37] Amanda Linden: maggie--we can't answer that one.
[13:37] Amanda Linden: sorry
[13:38] Talarus Luan: Well, we'll find out eventually. :P
[13:38] was included in many changes we have made.
[13:38] Maggie Darwin: Sorry, must have missed first response.
[13:38]
[13:38] Amanda Linden: np--was good question. :)
[13:38] Maggie Darwin: Important security question. Interesting there's no answer.
[13:38] Irene Muni: LO, great answer, lexie :) Thanks in any case :)
[13:38]
[13:38] Amanda Linden: irene--that testing period was very valuable.
[13:38] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): (she could get a prim baby for privacy reasons)
[13:39] Amanda Linden: they def made changes based on your collective input
[13:39] Cummere Mayo: lexie U have a question...
[13:39] Cummere Mayo: *I
[13:39]
[13:39] Irene Muni: I know Amanda, I have not complaints about LL in the tested period :)
[13:39] Amanda Linden: :)
[13:40] Cummere Mayo: how do you prevent people from making and answering thier own questions using various alts to gain powers? and how about those of us that owrk primarily in jira and wiki? will we not get pwoers because we work in other areas? if so thts kind of a punishment
[13:40] Irene Muni: Is there people answering with Alts for points????
[13:41] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): yes!
[13:41] Irene Muni: Are there*, sorry my English
[13:41] Amanda Linden: hopefully, taht stuff will come out when folks flag it for moderation.
[13:41] Cummere Mayo: yes lots
[13:41] Amanda Linden: we'll be on the look out--closely watching
[13:41] speculating that some people will do that to "game" the system and achieve a higher rank
[13:41] Nathan Adored: oh boy, sockpuppets.
[13:41] Irene Muni: In Sl Answers Cummere??
[13:41] there is a formula in place that will help address gaming. Wiki and Jira are not in the formula, nor were they for our current system.
[13:41] Cummere Mayo: well it happens on jive all the time already
[13:41] Amanda Linden: yes, rand. some people will.
[13:41] Amanda Linden: we will be monitoring more closely for that activity
[13:42] to the other areas, but in the KB, a Linden will have to ultimately approve the publishing of any content
[13:42] Irene Muni: It's logical Rand.
[13:42] Irene Muni: Normal.
[13:42] respect, as long as the info they provide is accurate it does no harm (re the KB at least)
[13:42] Cummere Mayo: right, but can those who do allot of jira work, such as ella, jonathan, and others please be given some extra permissions because if they do take the time to contribute somethign it should likely not need lots of red tape to get it done
[13:42] your concerns on gaming. We will keep an eye out for potential issues and make changes as needed.
[13:43] Cummere Mayo: ty
[13:43] Irene Muni: Easy solution: no ranks nor points!! :)
[13:43] Lord of Dee (ciaran.laval): Good solution Irene!
[13:43] :p
[13:43] Amanda Linden: the:)
[13:43] Cummere Mayo: I like that solution irene
[13:43] Irene Muni: Vote https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-1498
[13:43] Irene Muni: Lexie, not "hehe", it's true :)
[13:44] Cummere Mayo: honestly those that give good answers will be noticed by someone anyways
[13:44] for your passion on it. *hugs*
[13:44] Irene Muni: LOL
[13:44] Cummere Mayo: you shouldnt need popularity points or even a good gteam record
[13:44] Irene Muni: Kisses from Spain :)
[13:44]
[13:44] Irene Muni: Agree Cummere
[13:44] Amanda Linden: ok, any other questions for lexie?
[13:45] once you see the system, you will understand it better.
[13:45] Lord of Dee (ciaran.laval): Is the structure changing?
[13:45] Maggie Darwin: I'm seeing plenty at lithium.com.
[13:45] Talarus Luan: How big a test group was there? 10? 100? 1000?
[13:45] Amanda Linden: yes, much more organized.
[13:45] Cummere Mayo: lexie can i get with you directly next week please?
[13:45] Maggie Darwin: I guess you have to pass the bill to see what's in it.
[13:45] Amanda Linden: we took a good look at the information architecture.
[13:46] Lord of Dee (ciaran.laval): any forums disappearing and can it handle the commerce forums?
[13:46] Amanda Linden: and the system is flexible enough to move things around--create areas, etc.
[13:46] Maggie Darwin: Gotta go.
[13:46] Amanda Linden: there are new ones, some going, but for the most part--same forums, just reorganized.
[13:46] Lord of Dee (ciaran.laval): That was a selling point of Jive Amanda :p
[13:46] Amanda Linden: yeah, but this is for real.
[13:46]
[13:46] Irene Muni: yes, question for Lexie,. is it Mr Humble an attractive man? LOL
[13:46] course he is!
[13:47]
[13:47] Amanda Linden: yep, he is.
[13:47] Lord of Dee (ciaran.laval): He supports the right football team, that's all that matters
[13:47] Amanda Linden: and he's super nice.
[13:47] Irene Muni: I have no problem in partner with Mr Humble, can you say his please?
[13:47] Amanda Linden: and crazy smart
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[13:47] you have to ask him yourself Irene!
[13:47] Amanda Linden: ok, last 10 mins.
[13:47] Irene Muni: Well, I will try LOL
[13:48] Amanda Linden: think that we covered the last item re: moderation.
[13:48] Amanda Linden: any other items that folks want to raise in our last 10 ins?
[13:48] Amanda Linden: mins
[13:48] Lord of Dee (ciaran.laval): Who are the moderators? Residents? Lindens? Scouts? Mixture?
[13:48] Cummere Mayo: wait we covered jira moderation?
[13:48] Talarus Luan: Any word on if/when we will be getting a Land user group to replace Jack's office hour?
[13:48] Cummere Mayo: /me didnt see it
[13:48] Amanda Linden: we don't have much jira moderation right now.
[13:48] Irene Muni: Can be helpful a box for suggestions to future meetings?
[13:48] Amanda Linden: but we will in lithium.
[13:48] Amanda Linden: they will be moderator lindens.
[13:49] Nathan Adored: and what happens if someone's posts get removed when they shouldn't have been?
[13:49] Cummere Mayo: right but jira wont be there right?
[13:49] Amanda Linden: no. jira will stay in jira.
[13:49] not moderated in the way we are discussing moderation right now.
[13:49] have a relevant item to add to the agenda, you can add it to https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Tools_User_Group
[13:49] Nathan Adored: "What happens in Jira, stays in Jira"? :D
[13:49] Amanda Linden: we will be very careful about what's deleted.
[13:49] Cummere Mayo: theres not really a good usergroup for jira stuff, can you please pass on the request to flag stuff?
[13:49] Irene Muni: (thanks, sorry for interruption, my mystake)
[13:49] Amanda Linden: jira is covered in this usergroup.
[13:49] Cummere Mayo: *to be able to flag stuff
[13:50] Amanda Linden: but, the jira person isn't here today.
[13:50] Cummere Mayo: which contact would that be?
[13:50] Amanda Linden: if you have input into jira, you can email me directly.
[13:50] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): where´s Sue when we want to POKE!!!! her?
[13:50] Lord of Dee (ciaran.laval): Can you remove delete comment rights from non Lindens on the Jira?
[13:50] Amanda Linden: ha!
[13:50] Amanda Linden: sue is the best person for these jira questions.
[13:50] Amanda Linden: maybe we can have her come in too.
[13:51] Amanda Linden: next time
[13:51] Cummere Mayo: ty
[13:51] Cummere Mayo: but i will probably jsut talk to her at the server group. she shows up there allot
[13:51] Amanda Linden: good idea
[13:51] Irene Muni: The new JIRAwatched XD
[13:51] Irene Muni: and NoVoted :(
[13:52] Amanda Linden: any other items?
[13:52] Talarus Luan: Any word on if/when we will be getting a Land user group to replace Jack's office hour?
[13:52] Amanda Linden: has this been helpful? interesting?
[13:52] Lord of Dee (ciaran.laval): Any word on a land group?
[13:52] Amanda Linden: ah, no word yet.
[13:52] will be out on vacation next week, so i will see you again in 2 weeks
[13:52] Amanda Linden: it's raised to the right folks. we are determining what we want to do here...
[13:53] Amanda Linden: and what linden would lead. jack's role hasn' tbeen replaced.
[13:53] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): have a great vacation :)
[13:53] Irene Muni: Vacation? You are a Linden!!!
[13:53] Amanda Linden: so we're in a holding pattern for a bit.
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[13:53] Lord of Dee (ciaran.laval): Any new groups you can give Blondin?
[13:53] Talarus Luan: k
[13:53] Amanda Linden: good quesiton tho--it's on my list.
[13:53] Lord of Dee (ciaran.laval): I like to see him kepty busy
[13:53] Amanda Linden: like blondin needs more to do? :)
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[13:53] Cummere Mayo: meh running bay city, zhindra, and events isnt enough
[13:53] Cummere Mayo: :)
[13:54] Amanda Linden: :)
[13:54] only the stuff you see :)
[13:54] Amanda Linden: yeah, he's plenty busy
[13:54] Lord of Dee (ciaran.laval): Is there still a group for community groups like chilbo?
[13:54] Cummere Mayo: give him marketplace and jira, and um... the rest of mainland
[13:54] more work onto Blondins desk ㋡
[13:54] Talarus Luan: Hmm.. <.<
[13:54] Amanda Linden: lord--not right now.
[13:54] Irene Muni: Great idea Cummere
[13:54] Irene Muni: :)
[13:54] Amanda Linden: but, we're looking at some of that right now.
[13:54] Amanda Linden: blondin--think you ahve a fan club.
[13:55] Amanda Linden: :)
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[13:55] Irene Muni: Blondin NEEDS a explicit fan club :)
[13:55] Irene Muni: As Lexie :)
[13:55] Jeremy Linden: Woo! Blondin!
[13:55] Amanda Linden: i
[13:55] Amanda Linden: ll sign up for the blondin fan club.
[13:55] Talarus Luan: I'll give him a club, alright. :P
[13:55] Amanda Linden: :)
[13:56] Irene Muni: fan club rating Adult, of course LOL
[13:56] Amanda Linden: ok, items for next week?
[13:56] Amanda Linden: jira moderation
[13:56] Amanda Linden: what else?
[13:56] Irene Muni: next wekk? or two wekks?
[13:56] Amanda Linden: well, i'll be here---
[13:56] Cummere Mayo: meh sorry i already run ex-linden Joppas fan club and cgs fan club
[13:56] Amanda Linden: and lexie too.
[13:56] Lord of Dee (ciaran.laval): Answers to the questions you weren't allowed to comment on this week
[13:56] Cummere Mayo: lol
[13:56] Irene Muni: oh undertood, sorry
[13:56] Cummere Mayo: no room for blondins
[13:56] will meet as usual next week, i just wont be here :-)
[13:56] Amanda Linden: and blondin will be here too.
[13:56] Lord of Dee (ciaran.laval): woot
[13:56] Irene Muni: Bondin, who is Blondin?
[13:57] Amanda Linden: ok, so---jira, we'll invite sue.
[13:57] Amanda Linden: what else?
[13:57] Cummere Mayo: Lexie before you go can you check your im please?
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[13:57] Jeremy Linden: /me points at Blondin.
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[13:57] Amanda Linden: kk, bye all.
[13:57] Amanda Linden: rand, can you grab the transcript?
[13:57] Lord of Dee (ciaran.laval): Can we see screenshots of the new setup?
[13:57] Talarus Luan: ciao
[13:57] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): bye bye
[13:57] do
[13:57] Amanda Linden: not yet lord.
[13:57] Irene Muni: Greetings and kisses from Sopaind (and paella)!!
[13:57] now! Have a great week/weekend ㋡
[13:57] Torben Bailey (torben.trautman): have a great rest of the week all
[13:57] Irene Muni: Spain* LOL
[13:57] Amanda Linden: feels so weird saying not yet, lrod.
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[13:57] Amanda Linden: lord
[13:57] Amanda Linden: :)
[13:58] Amanda Linden: love to spain!
[13:58] Lord of Dee (ciaran.laval): Ok cheers guys
[13:58] Jill Yedmore: bye!
[13:58] Irene Muni: Great Amanda, kudos for you!

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