Community Tools User Group/9-June-2011

Transcript for Thursday June 9, 2011

[13:01]	Amanda Linden	hey chatty--good to see you.
[13:01]	Raymond Linden	Well, as you all are probably aware we did a little work restructuring the Forums
[13:01]	ChatBrat Pippita	Hi everyone ㋡
[13:01]	Lexie	㋡
[13:02]	Lexie	lol
[13:02]	ChatBrat Pippita	Hey Amanda ㋡
[13:02]	Peewee Musytari	BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE huggles
[13:02]	Luc Starsider	No kidding Raymond
[13:02]	bee Baroque	peeeeeeeeeeweeeeeeeeee hugs :)
[13:02]	Raymond Linden	We tried to steamline it a bit
[13:02]	bee Baroque	/me waves to all \o
[13:02]	Luc Starsider	Hi bee
[13:02]	bee Baroque	hi luc \o
[13:03]	Raymond Linden	We also just re-introduced the Forum Feedback sub-forum
[13:03]	Peewee Musytari	hop up here hehe
[13:03]	bee Baroque	calculating height snicker
[13:03]	Lexie	located here: http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Forums-Feedback/bd-p/forums_feedback
[13:03]	Raymond Linden	The link to the feedback is in the Additional Links side-widget
[13:03]	Peewee Musytari	missed
[13:03]	Peewee Musytari	/me Loooooo00ooooooL
[13:03]	Marianne McCann	Excellent...
[13:04]	Raymond Linden	We also removed the listing of Kudos on the Answer widget
[13:04]	Lexie	cleaner look
[13:04]	Amanda Linden	oh you did? ossm raymond.
[13:04]	Raymond Linden	The HTML was fixed - Rand can get into that later
[13:04]	Peewee Musytari	its moved?
[13:04]	Raymond Linden	Ummm . . .one other thing . . .but I cant remember!
[13:05]	Raymond Linden	Lexie - what am I missing?
[13:05]	Adamburp Adamczyk	✰ UNDERPANTS! ✰
[13:05]	Raymond Linden	haha
[13:05]	Amanda Linden	ROL
[13:05]	Amanda Linden	ROFL
[13:05]	Marianne McCann	/me snickers
[13:05]	Lexie	Animation and Machinima are also on their own boards again!
[13:05]	Marianne McCann	Timing is everything
[13:05]	Peewee Musytari	what moved about the answers widget?
[13:05]	bee Baroque	oops sorry peewee
[13:05]	Raymond Linden	Oh right
[13:05]	Peewee Musytari	doh
[13:05]	Lexie	Peewee thats just a kudus count number
[13:05]	Raymond Linden	I think that about does it
[13:05]	Lexie	Also...
[13:06]	Amanda Linden	we're also looking at spiffing up the branding of the site...making it more dynamic
[13:06]	Amanda Linden	more on that soon.
[13:06]	Lexie	Re: Feedback forums:...
[13:06]	Lexie	Threads in the feedback area must be on topic or they will be deleted.
[13:06]	Lexie	We need to keep that board on track ㋡
[13:06]	Lexie	And a note about the General forum..
[13:06]	DogWomble Dollinger	so you've smooshed the site, now you're spiffing it up :)
[13:07]	Luc Starsider	What kind of feedback do you want there?
[13:07]	Lexie	All the normal community guidelines apply there, but yes ...you can post real life topics there. The guidelines now include that information.
[13:07]	Luc Starsider	Bugs, feature requests,?
[13:07]	Amanda Linden	that stuff should probably go in jira....
[13:07]	Lexie	Luc, it is feedback on the community platform
[13:07]	Marianne McCann	I noted that many stickified threads became unstuck with the change.For me, the bay City and Nova Albion sticky ones in Mainland were missed
[13:07]	Amanda Linden	that's where the engineers go....
[13:07]	Lexie	right Amanda
[13:07]	Knowl Paine	stay on topic
[13:07]	Luc Starsider	k
[13:08]	Lexie	Marianne if you IM me the threads I can sticky them
[13:08]	Lexie	㋡
[13:08]	Marianne McCann	Can do, Lexie
[13:08]	Lexie	Answers update:
[13:08]	Lexie	Community help information for Video has been updated (with Torleys help). Much easier to understand now!
[13:08]	Lexie	and..
[13:09]	Lexie	Before Peewee asks again lol .. we are still working on some possible fixes for Answers, such as having a Reply button on each answer. Will keep you updated as we find out more. ㋡
[13:09]	Adamburp Adamczyk	1 thign about answers lexie?
[13:09]	Lexie	Go ahead Adam
[13:09]	Peewee Musytari	we are missing a lot of stuff lexie
[13:09]	Peewee Musytari	cos if the OP uses edit to reply it doesn`t come up as a new post
[13:09]	Adamburp Adamczyk	i've had a little trouble with "answers" - it;s less help than the scouts
[13:09]	Adamburp Adamczyk	some of the searchesd aer turning up some randomly weird results
[13:09]	Lexie	right, peewee, we are aware of that
[13:10]	Adamburp Adamczyk	okay to pm over later for your perusal?
[13:10]	Peewee Musytari	they are getting mad at us
[13:10]	Peewee Musytari	lol
[13:10]	Peewee Musytari	we are scared
[13:10]	Lexie	yes Adam
[13:10]	Peewee Musytari	hehe
[13:10]	DogWomble Dollinger	/me gives peewee an anti-tinyhurt shield
[13:10]	Peewee Musytari	lol
[13:10]	Lexie	aww we will see what we can do to make answers function better!
[13:11]	Peewee Musytari	woots
[13:11]	bee Baroque	\o/
[13:11]	Lexie	Thats my update ㋡
[13:11]	Adamburp Adamczyk	/me looks for his swahili>lindonese dictionary
[13:11]	Peewee Musytari	the most common question now is...how do I work this thing? lol
[13:11]	Amanda Linden	ok, rand/jeremy--you're next
[13:11]	Rand	OK
[13:11]	Lisa Fossett	/me perks and comes in with an observation...The Answers are oftentimes not catecorized logically and/or don't have good search results (tags??) as Adam notes. I know there are moderators that help move things, but is there any way to make this more streamlined/efficient/correct?
[13:11]	Rand	We recently added Italian and Japanese Knowledge Bases, but currently there are no articles.
[13:12]	Lisa Fossett	categorized...forgive the typos
[13:12]	Rand	um, does someone want to address Lisa's Q before I continue?
[13:12]	Rand	or shall i continue
[13:12]	Peewee Musytari	do we need all them categories in answers?
[13:12]	Amanda Linden	lexie?
[13:12]	Lexie	Lets let Rand finish
[13:12]	Amanda Linden	kk
[13:12]	Rand	ok
[13:12]	Rand	Also, I made one small tweak in the Knowledge Base: By default articles are displayed sorted by "Views" rather than "Date" (last update). You can easily change the sorting if (e.g.) you want to see what's recently been updated or added, but for most general folks, showing the most popular articles at top makes more sense.
[13:13]	Dresden Ceriano	i'm sorry to everyone... I shouldn't have been cursing
[13:13]	Dresden Ceriano	i won't anymore
[13:13]	Amanda Linden	thanks dresden. :)
[13:13]	Rand	Other than that, we're just doing general work on updating, editing, and working with localization team and community translators to localize articles
[13:13]	Jeremy Linden	I'm currently working with the Mesh team to get the Mesh feature documentation up to date. I'll be monitoring the Mesh documentation request thread in the forums for good suggestions: http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Mesh/Mesh-Documentation-Requests/td-p/914193
[13:13]	Dresden Ceriano	oh hey amanda.. i really am sorry
[13:13]	Amanda Linden	didn't even see it...now that i'm looking. :) no worries
[13:14]	Dresden Ceriano	i'm not usually like that
[13:14]	Rand	Thx Jeremy.... I think that covers the KB/doc world atm.
[13:14]	Peewee Musytari	I :)
[13:14]	Amanda Linden	cool. any questions for rand/jeremy?
[13:14]	Amanda Linden	or on wiki?
[13:15]	Amanda Linden	going...going...ok.
[13:15]	Raymond Linden	Oh Rand .. .
[13:15]	Amanda Linden	lexie, wanna address lisa's q?
[13:15]	Rand	??
[13:15]	Marianne McCann	I know I had something.. but not that it's the time, it's totally slipped my mind
[13:15]	Knowl Paine	In the KB the question about what to do if a Residents forgets their original email address is not covered
[13:15]	Raymond Linden	Did you mention that Forum posts can be nominated to the KB . ..
[13:16]	Raymond Linden	For Contributors and higher
[13:16]	Rand	Ah yes, you can now nomiate forum posts for KB articles!
[13:16]	Rand	Right.... :-)
[13:16]	Lexie	woot!
[13:16]	Lisa Fossett	Oh, that's useful
[13:16]	Peewee Musytari	ooh how?
[13:16]	Luc Starsider	That's cool.
[13:16]	Knowl Paine	I will
[13:16]	Dresden Ceriano	How would that work?
[13:16]	Knowl Paine	ty
[13:16]	Rand	Knowl - let me look into that...
[13:16]	Raymond Linden	Contributors and higher have that functionality
[13:16]	Lexie	nominate is under the options menu
[13:16]	Marianne McCann	Now that's interesting
[13:16]	Qie	wait. the posts must be from contributors+, or the nominations ?
[13:16]	Peewee Musytari	kewl
[13:16]	Raymond Linden	Under "Options"
[13:16]	Lexie	nominations Peewee
[13:16]	Qie	ah, nominations. okay.
[13:16]	Peewee Musytari	does it go straight to KB?
[13:17]	Raymond Linden	We are also working to get that working for Answers
[13:17]	Lexie	It will be reviewed
[13:17]	Lisa Fossett	I should think it should be moderated/edited/checked.
[13:17]	Lisa Fossett	nods
[13:17]	Peewee Musytari	I agree
[13:17]	Raymond Linden	Yeah, it goes into a queue
[13:17]	Raymond Linden	For the Doc team to review
[13:17]	Peewee Musytari	in case its not lindenspeak
[13:17]	Jeremy Linden	All KB content is reviewed and edited by the doc team before it gets published. :-)
[13:17]	Peewee Musytari	kk
[13:17]	Peewee Musytari	so thats just for forums for now not answers yeah?
[13:18]	Lexie	We are checking on Answers
[13:18]	Lexie	Seems to have a glitch
[13:18]	Peewee Musytari	haha
[13:18]	Peewee Musytari	there`s a surprise
[13:18]	Lexie	but accepted solutions are automatically nominated
[13:18]	Lisa Fossett	As a non-contributing member, could I send an email to someone to alert them to a possible KB add?
[13:18]	Lisa Fossett	or rather message via the forum messages?
[13:19]	Rand	Lisa - Yes, a PM on Lithium is fine.
[13:19]	Lexie	Rand what do you think on that?
[13:19]	Lexie	awesome
[13:19]	Lisa Fossett	great
[13:19]	Peewee Musytari	so if the same question is asked multiple times and obviously gets the same right answer they are all nominated?
[13:19]	Dresden Ceriano	i'm confused... how is this any diferent?
[13:19]	Lisa Fossett	I think there's a shortcut for some people, Dresden
[13:19]	Lexie	Its possible Peewee, but thats why they are checked before published
[13:20]	Peewee Musytari	good addition though..I likey
[13:20]	Lexie	If it already exists in KB they will see it
[13:20]	Knowl Paine	Is multipule logins a problem? Using a outside search engine with SL forums open and then clicking on external to SL site causes multipule logins. If it's not a problem so to say I can ignore it.
[13:20]	Knowl Paine	multiple, I always add that u :)
[13:20]	Lexie	Re: the categories in Answers, and steamlining
[13:21]	Lexie	We can lok into that!
[13:21]	Lexie	look*
[13:21]	Lexie	We see some categories are not that active, so good point!
[13:21]	Lexie	Any questions missed?
[13:21]	Dresden Ceriano	whispers: When are you changing SL Answers to O & A?
[13:21]	Peewee Musytari	I tend to look at all questions on one page so categories don`t seem relevant...unless thats not how others do it
[13:22]	Lexie	hehe Dresden, not sure on that yet.
[13:22]	Luc Starsider	I've never looked at the categories
[13:22]	Raymond Linden	Oh . ..I have something else . .. I cant remember if this was brought up in the last meeting .. .
[13:22]	Luc Starsider	Didn't know they were there.
[13:22]	bee Baroque	don't look at me peewee snicker
[13:22]	Lisa Fossett	I'm more concerned with users finding answers, rather than my finding open questions
[13:22]	Raymond Linden	The "Latest Post" entry has been fixed in the widgets
[13:22]	Peewee Musytari	i assume the foreign ones should stay
[13:23]	Dresden Ceriano	but Lisa it's the confusion of where people should post
[13:23]	Lexie	Please continue to add the feedback on the forum for the community platform too!
[13:23]	Lisa Fossett	/me squirms her eyes...one results in the other...I see your point :)
[13:24]	Dresden Ceriano	Q & A makes more sense than Answers in that respect
[13:24]	Lexie	yes, that does make sense
[13:24]	Peewee Musytari	yes
[13:24]	Knowl Paine	The ability to give more kudos would be nice
[13:24]	Lexie	Knowl: On more boards?
[13:24]	Peewee Musytari	is there a limit?
[13:25]	Luc Starsider	yes, tehre's a limit.
[13:25]	Luc Starsider	there's
[13:25]	Dresden Ceriano	i could care less about kudos... they're not going to make me live a happier life
[13:25]	Knowl Paine	mostly in answer and in creation
[13:25]	Lexie	I have not heard of anyone who has hit the limit though in a day
[13:25]	Raymond Linden	You can give 1 per post
[13:26]	Raymond Linden	But, I dont think there is a total limit
[13:26]	Peewee Musytari	right cool
[13:26]	Dresden Ceriano	whatever
[13:26]	Dresden Ceriano	it's really not important
[13:27]	Knowl Paine	I might read 40-50 threads in an hour any extra would help
[13:27]	Lexie	I think there is a limit but its generous
[13:27]	Dresden Ceriano	there are better things to focus on
[13:27]	Knowl Paine	currently its 4 per hour
[13:27]	Luc Starsider	3 a minute is one limit
[13:27]	Knowl Paine	lets discuss the better things
[13:28]	Dresden Ceriano	lets
[13:28]	Peewee Musytari	rolig wanted moving fashion forum discuussed
[13:28]	Peewee Musytari	out of creation section
[13:28]	Dresden Ceriano	i think fashion and clothing creation are tow completely different things
[13:29]	Dresden Ceriano	two*
[13:29]	Peewee Musytari	I agree
[13:29]	Luc Starsider	True Dresden
[13:29]	bee Baroque	/me agrees as well
[13:29]	Knowl Paine	agreed
[13:29]	Adamburp Adamczyk	/me agrees
[13:29]	Peewee Musytari	should it be wherever avatar forum is?
[13:29]	Lexie	hmm
[13:29]	Dresden Ceriano	there should be a clothing category in the creation forum
[13:30]	Dresden Ceriano	but fashion should be somewhere else
[13:30]	Luc Starsider	Agree
[13:30]	Peewee Musytari	well thats covered by texturing in creation
[13:30]	Dresden Ceriano	say.. the avatar category
[13:30]	Peewee Musytari	fashion itself is I think she described it as a vanity forum lol
[13:30]	Lexie	right, thats what is on the agenda
[13:30]	Raymond Linden	Ok, thanks for the feedback on that one
[13:31]	Lisa Fossett	clothing creation is not only texturing. Perhaps it should have a sep category, but I agree, within content creation.
[13:31]	Dresden Ceriano	texturing is included in the building category
[13:31]	Dresden Ceriano	it should
[13:31]	Lisa Fossett	yes, there is considerable overlap
[13:31]	Lexie	good feedback, thanks
[13:31]	Lisa Fossett	but it's a slightly different beast
[13:31]	Ann Otoole	if there is a fashion forum then aren't people going to want to say who made what and possibly run afoul of the guidelines?
[13:31]	Dresden Ceriano	it should be separate
[13:32]	Luc Starsider	They do already Ann
[13:32]	Peewee Musytari	yeah people do pics of fave outfits and stuff like that in there
[13:32]	Dresden Ceriano	and a lot of people find that machinima should not be with animation
[13:32]	Dresden Ceriano	i agree
[13:32]	Lexie	Its a fine line between "sharing" and advertising, true
[13:32]	Raymond Linden	Dresden - those were split
[13:32]	Peewee Musytari	hehe that moved dres
[13:32]	Lisa Fossett	I agree with that, too
[13:33]	Dresden Ceriano	oh... i must be out of the loop
[13:33]	DogWomble Dollinger	wb amanda
[13:33]	Lexie	Welcome back Amanda
[13:33]	Dresden Ceriano	lol
[13:33]	Peewee Musytari	wb
[13:33]	Eddi	wb amada :)
[13:33]	Amanda Linden	sorry about that gang
[13:33]	Peewee Musytari	it was only last night dres
[13:33]	Eddi	i know, crash hunter eh? :)
[13:33]	Adamburp Adamczyk	onigokko
[13:33]	Raymond Linden	So, the consensus is that Fashion should not be under creation
[13:33]	Dresden Ceriano	you'll pay for it
[13:33]	Dresden Ceriano	lol
[13:33]	Kraptacular Kat	thanks
[13:33]	Luc Starsider	Yes raymond
[13:33]	Peewee Musytari	yes lexie
[13:33]	Amanda Linden	pesky mac bug
[13:33]	Peewee Musytari	oops raymond
[13:33]	DogWomble Dollinger	PC ftw? :P
[13:33]	Marianne McCann	stop
[13:34]	Eddi	lol amanda, the mac have some bug to? :p
[13:34]	Marianne McCann	Ah, pesky mac bugs... I know them well...
[13:34]	Dresden Ceriano	i think that there should be a clothing category under creation
[13:34]	Luc Starsider	What's wrong with the mac?
[13:34]	Lisa Fossett	My mind is bland on what else to call it...but perhaps another term from simply "fashion" will help distinguish it from clothing creation?
[13:34]	Amanda Linden	(this bug on jira keeps biting me in the butt)
[13:34]	Amanda Linden	https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-25627
[13:34]	Lisa Fossett	blank
[13:34]	Amanda Linden	ooh, like fashion
[13:34]	Amanda Linden	good word
[13:34]	Peewee Musytari	having 2 can`t hurt, they are completely diff things
[13:35]	Dresden Ceriano	it should be called clothing
[13:35]	Luc Starsider	Ah, that one.
[13:35]	Lisa Fossett	Clothing creation---for the creation thread
[13:35]	Dresden Ceriano	and you can still; have a fashion category
[13:35]	Lexie	Clothing creation?
[13:35]	Amanda Linden	ah, good point
[13:35]	Lisa Fossett	and fashion ((or something else) for the vanity thread))
[13:35]	Peewee Musytari	yes 2 sep ones
[13:35]	Amanda Linden	that woudl be a good way to differentiate
[13:35]	Dresden Ceriano	just include it in your avatar
[13:35]	Peewee Musytari	I agree with lisa
[13:36]	Lisa Fossett	I think just plain "fashion" is not distinguishing a term to keep the creation posts out.
[13:36]	Lisa Fossett	someone help...better term??
[13:36]	Lexie	hmm
[13:36]	Peewee Musytari	avatar & fashion in people and clothing creation in creation?
[13:36]	Jeremy Linden	Avatar style discussion?
[13:36]	Ann Otoole	Style? or "Fashion & Style"?
[13:36]	Lisa Fossett	Fashion and Style...good one
[13:37]	Raymond Linden	Great suggestion Ann
[13:37]	Lexie	I like that
[13:37]	Dresden Ceriano	iif you really want to know what I think... there should be a show and tell category
[13:37]	Peewee Musytari	ooh yus
[13:37]	Luc Starsider	Good one Ann
[13:37]	Lexie	Yay Ann!
[13:37]	Lisa Fossett	+1 to Ann
[13:37]	Marianne McCann	+1 to style
[13:37]	DogWomble Dollinger	kudos to ann
[13:37]	Peewee Musytari	/me has style & know nowt about fahsion :D
[13:37]	Ann Otoole	then someone can make a thread called The Runway
[13:37]	Lisa Fossett	hehe, Peewee
[13:37]	Lexie	niiice
[13:38]	Peewee Musytari	now ur putting fashion in events lol
[13:38]	Peewee Musytari	with a runway
[13:38]	Lexie	lol
[13:38]	Lexie	Its hard to keep things simple!
[13:38]	Peewee Musytari	its getting there
[13:38]	Lexie	Whats next on agenda
[13:38]	DogWomble Dollinger	perhaps it can have it's own subforum? "Fashion & Style", "Clothing Creation", "he Runway"
[13:39]	Dresden Ceriano	if there was a show and tell cat... then that would be the place to go if you want to create a thread about how fabulous your look of your place is
[13:39]	Dresden Ceriano	or*
[13:39]	Peewee Musytari	u think each one would get that many posts?
[13:39]	Dresden Ceriano	anyway
[13:40]	Ann Otoole	where would the fashion police thread go?
[13:40]	Peewee Musytari	lol
[13:40]	Lexie	lol
[13:40]	Amanda Linden	nice--ok, shall we move on?
[13:40]	Dresden Ceriano	it was just a sugjestion
[13:40]	Peewee Musytari	yus
[13:40]	Lexie	yup
[13:40]	Amanda Linden	have 20 mins left and some stuff to coer on agenda...
[13:40]	Amanda Linden	cover
[13:40]	Knowl Paine	0.0
[13:40]	Dresden Ceriano	i can't spell today
[13:40]	Amanda Linden	apparently, i can't either
[13:40]	Jeremy Linden	Linden Lab has a well established stance on the support of Resident-run police groups :-P
[13:40]	Dresden Ceriano	let's move on
[13:40]	Amanda Linden	ok, new products forum.
[13:41]	DogWomble Dollinger	/me builds a typing tutor for SL
[13:41]	Amanda Linden	nope.
[13:41]	Amanda Linden	:)
[13:41]	Peewee Musytari	phooey
[13:41]	DogWomble Dollinger	haha jeremy
[13:41]	Amanda Linden	we really don't want too much advertising on the forums.
[13:41]	Marianne McCann	"Mavis Reisdent Teaches Typing"
[13:41]	Amanda Linden	ok, name smileys...
[13:41]	Dresden Ceriano	yes... ffs
[13:41]	Amanda Linden	that's actually a good idea--at least a hover over like in skype
[13:41]	DogWomble Dollinger	haha mariana
[13:41]	Amanda Linden	lexie/raymond?
[13:41]	Amanda Linden	agenda here btw
[13:41]	Amanda Linden	http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Tools_User_Group
[13:42]	Raymond Linden	I dunno. We'll have to sync with Lithium on that one. Good idea though
[13:42]	Amanda Linden	cool. then we'll get back on that one.
[13:42]	Peewee Musytari	its just the new added ones that don`t have it in the selection box
[13:42]	Amanda Linden	ok, infohub.
[13:42]	Peewee Musytari	the old ones do
[13:42]	Amanda Linden	that's not really our group. i would contact the LDPW folks.
[13:42]	Amanda Linden	if it's linden land.
[13:42]	Marianne McCann	I know the LDPW has, in the past deferred any requestst like this, preferring them to come via Blondin (RIP) or Jack (RIP).
[13:43]	Amanda Linden	ah, kk
[13:43]	Amanda Linden	the email me what ou need and i'll get it to michael
[13:43]	Adamburp Adamczyk	i posted that as i;d like a straight answer
[13:43]	Adamburp Adamczyk	amanda - we spoek twice, you didn;t follow it up
[13:43]	Dresden Ceriano	okay... I'm saying this again... I didn't put it on the agaenda because it's been covered before... but inline pics are still not lining up correctly
[13:43]	Amanda Linden	the best way to get those requests in is through me. email 'em and i'll forward them but that's no guarantee that they will work on yoru request.
[13:44]	Amanda Linden	just that i've forwarded.
[13:44]	Amanda Linden	:)
[13:44]	Lexie	Dresden pls send me an example?
[13:44]	Lexie	I dont see it?
[13:44]	Adamburp Adamczyk	/me is upset at that half answer
[13:44]	Amanda Linden	what were you lookin' for?
[13:44]	Dresden Ceriano	omg.. just try putting your own smiley into a sentence
[13:44]	DogWomble Dollinger	hey arawn
[13:44]	Dresden Ceriano	as a pic
[13:45]	Amanda Linden	ok, moving on...
[13:45]	Lexie	ok Dres, I will look again. I thought it looked ok?
[13:45]	Dresden Ceriano	it hovers over the words just like the smilies did
[13:45]	Amanda Linden	and answer is yes--lexie and i both went through the new reg process last week.
[13:45]	Lexie	hmm
[13:45]	Amanda Linden	the new avs are cool. was there a question beyond that adam?
[13:45]	Adamburp Adamczyk	yes, i busted you remember :P
[13:45]	Amanda Linden	ah, right.
[13:45]	Knowl Paine	lol
[13:45]	Amanda Linden	ok, that was left over. huh?
[13:46]	Amanda Linden	from the otehr week.
[13:46]	Adamburp Adamczyk	and i want to know how you found he new user experience?
[13:46]	Amanda Linden	better, but a long way to go.
[13:46]	Adamburp Adamczyk	good? bad?
[13:46]	Lexie	lacking
[13:46]	Adamburp Adamczyk	amanda, i'm going on ecord here
[13:46]	Adamburp Adamczyk	ercord**
[13:46]	Adamburp Adamczyk	i made a new alt at the same time as you two did - iand i was disgusted by how bad it is
[13:46]	Peewee Musytari	can they put a message at the start of registration saying something like....this name you pick will be your name inworld and u can`t change it?...because people get so mad when they ask if they can and then say they never would have picked a stupid code name if they had known
[13:47]	Luc Starsider	I agree with Peewee.
[13:47]	Lisa Fossett	There's a blurb there
[13:47]	Dresden Ceriano	brb
[13:47]	Marianne McCann	Peewee - didn't it used to have some disclaimer like that? has that changed?
[13:47]	Lisa Fossett	but it's not so emphatic
[13:47]	Amanda Linden	kk, guys--this is a UG on community tools not reg....
[13:47]	Amanda Linden	i will pass your info along, tho.
[13:47]	Amanda Linden	good insights here.
[13:47]	Amanda Linden	:)
[13:48]	Adamburp Adamczyk	community tools IS to help new users amanda, you one said so yourself
[13:48]	Amanda Linden	agreed, but this is more about new reg and way outside of the scope of this group of lindens here.
[13:48]	Adamburp Adamczyk	and it's seriosuly lacking for us residents who devote our time to helping them
[13:48]	Lisa Fossett	We deal with the result if there's a misunderstanding in registration
[13:48]	Amanda Linden	true true
[13:48]	Peewee Musytari	they come to answer with names like JHGY7865 and they want real names not display names because they can`t hide the one they registered with
[13:48]	Amanda Linden	ok--up for vote. talk about reg or get through the rest of the agenda?
[13:48]	Knowl Paine	ok, next
[13:48]	Amanda Linden	type in reg or agenda...
[13:49]	Knowl Paine	the rest
[13:49]	ChatBrat Pippita	Agenda, please ㋡
[13:49]	Lisa Fossett	Pass that to the right folks and move to next
[13:49]	Lexie	agenda
[13:49]	Marianne McCann	Agenda
[13:49]	bee Baroque	agenda
[13:49]	Knowl Paine	agenda
[13:49]	DogWomble Dollinger	agenda :)
[13:49]	Adamburp Adamczyk	agenda]
[13:49]	Peewee Musytari	agenda
[13:49]	Amanda Linden	ok, the agenda's have it
[13:49]	Amanda Linden	:)
[13:49]	Amanda Linden	next is blondin.
[13:49]	Peewee Musytari	:((
[13:49]	Adamburp Adamczyk	amanda, you missed out my next point
[13:49]	Amanda Linden	we miss him, for sure, and there's a big hole left that he filled.
[13:49]	Adamburp Adamczyk	whuch wasd before blondin
[13:49]	Adamburp Adamczyk	which was*
[13:50]	Amanda Linden	waht did i miss?
[13:50]	Adamburp Adamczyk	Requesting something for an infohub: is it this group as per last week's discussions, or via LDPW? (Adamburp "Lexie's Midnight Runners" Adamczyk)
[13:50]	Amanda Linden	oh, needed to refresh.
[13:50]	Amanda Linden	:)
[13:50]	Amanda Linden	oh, no updates on lindens responsible for support UG.
[13:50]	Dresden Ceriano	um.. can a ask about something that wasn't included in the agenda?
[13:50]	Adamburp Adamczyk	not UG, meeting to express our concerns
[13:50]	Amanda Linden	we have a new director of support and he's getting settledi n....
[13:50]	Amanda Linden	i wil ask him about it tho. :)
[13:50]	Amanda Linden	haven't forgotten.
[13:51]	Lexie	(you snuck that on agenda Adam )
[13:51]	Lexie	㋡
[13:51]	Adamburp Adamczyk	(check the edit time lexie()
[13:51]	Adamburp Adamczyk	:P
[13:51]	Lexie	lol
[13:51]	Amanda Linden	ok, so the community team is now me and lexie.
[13:51]	Lexie	㋡
[13:51]	Amanda Linden	we're going to do the best we can covering the communiteis that blondin covered.
[13:51]	Dresden Ceriano	okay.. i'll just include it for next time
[13:51]	Eddi	(/me poke Jeremy , your chair is compfortable.. lol )
[13:51]	Amanda Linden	i've already attended a bay city meeting and the adult UG.
[13:52]	Marianne McCann	Need moar community lindens
[13:52]	Marianne McCann	/me grins
[13:52]	Peewee Musytari	aww what about jeremy raymond and rand?
[13:52]	Amanda Linden	yes, we will be hiring. thank goodness.
[13:52]	Adamburp Adamczyk	need mopre lindens - full stop
[13:52]	Peewee Musytari	they is care in the community
[13:52]	Jeremy Linden	/me is on the Documentation team with Rand :-D
[13:52]	Raymond Linden	I am helping out on implementation work
[13:52]	Amanda Linden	so, i will let ou know when we have someone new on the team. :)
[13:52]	Luc Starsider	/me agrees with adam
[13:52]	Amanda Linden	can't happen fast enough in my book. lexie and i are drowning.
[13:52]	Adamburp Adamczyk	/me is still waiting to hea abou our meeting remember amanda?
[13:52]	Lisa Fossett	/me looks at the clock and the state of the meeting, with so many loose ends and discussion
[13:52]	Amanda Linden	ok, the next two items are from cummere and she's not here...
[13:53]	Lisa Fossett	Can we put this/these topics on the agenda and START with them next time?
[13:53]	Peewee Musytari	/me kicks bee
[13:53]	Amanda Linden	but teh answer for both is no. the tos is the tos and it should be very clear what is a violation and what isn't.
[13:53]	Dresden Ceriano	maybe we can cover it
[13:53]	bee Baroque	/me pulls peewee's hair
[13:53]	Lisa Fossett	(knowing full well she'll be up to her armpits in SL8B)
[13:53]	Rand	We do have https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:Terms_of_Service_FAQ
[13:53]	Amanda Linden	so, think taht does it for those twoo.
[13:53]	Amanda Linden	two
[13:53]	Amanda Linden	ok, feedback listend diferently from other forums....
[13:53]	Rand	And https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:Residents%27_privacy_rights regarding disclosing IMs
[13:53]	Peewee Musytari	to stop the dumb posters?
[13:54]	Amanda Linden	true true
[13:54]	Amanda Linden	(to rand)
[13:54]	Peewee Musytari	they will still find it lol
[13:54]	Dresden Ceriano	well that's self explanatory right?
[13:54]	Adamburp Adamczyk	/me is goign to makle "vote with your smackers" group
[13:55]	Marianne McCann	/me will vote with her smuckers. It's good on toast
[13:55]	Dresden Ceriano	smackers... sneakers?.. whatever
[13:55]	Amanda Linden	ok, forums and feedback from ossian (who isn't here either)
[13:55]	Adamburp Adamczyk	smackers = money
[13:55]	Amanda Linden	but, not sure what he means....
[13:55]	Peewee Musytari	can we have a message on answers telling people its not a stupid system its just broken a bit for now?
[13:55]	Amanda Linden	so he'll have to come back next week and explain unless someone else wants to shine more light on that one
[13:55]	Amanda Linden	ha peewee
[13:56]	Dresden Ceriano	/me hinds his face... if only i knew
[13:56]	Amanda Linden	ok...
[13:56]	Dresden Ceriano	lol hides*
[13:56]	Amanda Linden	then we got through it with 4 mins to spare.
[13:56]	Amanda Linden	/me relaxes now
[13:56]	Adamburp Adamczyk	[13:52] Adamburp Adamczyk is still waiting to hea abou our meeting remember amanda?
[13:56]	Amanda Linden	yep. sorry--now you know why ive been swamped.
[13:56]	Amanda Linden	:)
[13:56]	Amanda Linden	we'll meet soon.
[13:57]	Amanda Linden	anything else from the group?
[13:57]	Amanda Linden	suggestions for next week?
[13:57]	Adamburp Adamczyk	/me notes that on his blog
[13:57]	Luc Starsider	In answers. Is it possible to specify that the people answering is not Liindens?
[13:57]	Lisa Fossett	Start with the NUE/Infohub topic
[13:57]	Dresden Ceriano	i just wanted to tell lexie... sorry i questoned you... you are fabulous
[13:57]	Lexie	We can highlight that Luc
[13:57]	Lisa Fossett	Or put that off until after SL8B so more people can pay attention to it...
[13:57]	Luc Starsider	Good!
[13:57]	Lexie	aww ty Dres
[13:58]	Dresden Ceriano	and purdy 2
[13:58]	Dresden Ceriano	lol
[13:58]	Lexie	lol
[13:58]	Peewee Musytari	nice to see they let you out that hamster wheel lexie hehe
[13:58]	Amanda Linden	good meeting guys--thanks for all of your support/feedback!
[13:58]	Luc Starsider	lol
[13:58]	Lexie	rofl 50,000 rotations!
[13:58]	Marianne McCann	Take care, all!
[13:58]	Marianne McCann	Bye Bye!!
[13:58]	Peewee Musytari	LOL
[13:58]	Raymond Linden	Thanks!
[13:58]	Rand	bye all
[13:58]	Adamburp Adamczyk	1 VERY quick question?#
[13:58]	Dresden Ceriano	bye everyone
[13:58]	Lexie	Great meeting! Thanks to everyone
[13:58]	DogWomble Dollinger	thanks lindens
[13:58]	Knowl Paine	bye

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