Adult Content User Group/01/09/2012
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Attendees List
- Counter Landfall (counter.landfall)
- Dee Kass (dee.kass)
- Evelynn Kidd (evelynn.kidd)
- Innula Zenovka (innula.zenovka)
- JeZeBeLe Dagger (jezebele.dagger)
- Martin RJ (martinrj.fayray)
- Nal (nalates.urriah)
- Qie (qie.niangao)
- Wiener Blut (silvanus.northman)
- only in sl (viale.linden)
- Xiola Linden (xiola.linden)
Transcript for Monday January 9, 2012
[10:01] | Wiener Blut | Hi all together |
[10:01] | Dee Kass | hi everyone |
[10:01] | Xiola Linden | Hello everyone |
[10:01] | Counter Landfall | Hi Viale, hi everyone |
[10:01] | Counter Landfall | and Happy New Year to all |
[10:02] | only in sl | Happy New Yeal all |
[10:02] | only in sl | New Year! |
[10:02] | JeZeBeLe Dagger | its almost chinese new year of the black water dragon |
[10:02] | JeZeBeLe Dagger | excitement |
[10:02] | Evelynn Kidd | bonne année |
[10:02] | Dee Kass | Happy 2012 to all as wel |
[10:02] | Innula Zenovka | hi, Xiola, Viale.. happy new year |
[10:02] | Xiola Linden | Happy 2012 |
[10:02] | Wiener Blut | yeah happy new year lets see if the Maya prophecy means SL too ; ) |
[10:03] | JeZeBeLe Dagger | silvanus yes indeed! lol end of a era beginning of a new one |
[10:03] | only in sl | We have 6 agenda items: 1. Category Suggestion - Shopping |
[10:04] | only in sl | I willl move into the agenda |
[10:04] | only in sl | Categories |
[10:05] | only in sl | We discussed last time the idea of changing the categories on the adult forum and 2 suggestions came in from the group |
[10:05] | Dee Kass | I posted Adult Employment twice |
[10:05] | Dee Kass | suggested * |
[10:06] | only in sl | We decided that creating a 2nd shopping category was probably not a good idea |
[10:06] | only in sl | as it is already in commerce |
[10:07] | Innula Zenovka | yeah, but when someone posted in the Commerce one about wanting to find some adult stuff, it got removed |
[10:07] | Xiola Linden | From the previous onversations about categories in Adult, it seemed like most felt it would further marginalize the larger community |
[10:07] | Innula Zenovka | that's why i suggested having an adult one |
[10:07] | Counter Landfall | sounds like a moderation issue |
[10:07] | Xiola Linden | at this time, the adult forums are covered by the same guidelines as all forums |
[10:07] | Counter Landfall | should be solvable |
[10:08] | Innula Zenovka | well, in that case, would someone have a word with the moderators? cos i can't see why else the particular question i answered was removed, and i'm wondering if there are others that have similarly gone |
[10:08] | only in sl | we discussed employment last time |
[10:08] | only in sl | That is also a redundant category |
[10:09] | only in sl | we have inworld employment |
[10:09] | Dee Kass | I missed it apparently however too many teens are posting wanting jobs |
[10:09] | Xiola Linden | i can check into it, Innula. There may have been another issue if you didn't receive a note from the moderator |
[10:09] | only in sl | it may have been moved to shopping/commerce |
[10:09] | Dee Kass | & applying to Adult positions |
[10:10] | only in sl | The next item is Zexpo |
[10:10] | Innula Zenovka | Please,Xiola .. it was something I replied to, and I didn't get a note, so i assume it was the actual question that was removed (I don't think it was moved) |
[10:10] | Counter Landfall | What about Announcment category? |
[10:10] | Counter Landfall | ... did I miss that? |
[10:10] | Xiola Linden | if you could PM any details you recall to help me find the thread, that would be appreciated. |
[10:10] | Innula Zenovka | will do |
[10:11] | Xiola Linden | thanks |
[10:11] | JeZeBeLe Dagger | thank you for following up with Innulas request |
[10:11] | only in sl | counter - could announcements be collapsed into events? |
[10:11] | Counter Landfall | not really |
[10:12] | Xiola Linden | Counter - what is the specific clutter that you were referring to? It is items that should be posted elsewhere? like Upcoming Events? |
[10:12] | Counter Landfall | there sems to be a lot of announcments that are not events |
[10:12] | only in sl | I see like meetings? |
[10:12] | Counter Landfall | like someone have made s wonder ful video, or a group has something they want to announce |
[10:12] | Counter Landfall | could be mettings |
[10:13] | Counter Landfall | too much of this goes into general discussion, but it snot really discussion material |
[10:14] | only in sl | I think we could consider replacing welcome with announcements |
[10:14] | only in sl | for videos |
[10:14] | Qie | that sounds promising |
[10:14] | Counter Landfall | that could work |
[10:14] | only in sl | that would probably go into creation |
[10:15] | Xiola Linden | I think the distinction might not be clear initially, but it could work |
[10:15] | only in sl | ok - zexpo |
[10:15] | only in sl | any zexpo attendees here? |
[10:15] | Evelynn Kidd | yes |
[10:16] | Evelynn Kidd | i was there |
[10:16] | only in sl | Evelyn - are you a group officer |
[10:16] | Evelynn Kidd | no |
[10:16] | only in sl | any group officers? |
[10:16] | only in sl | ok |
[10:16] | JeZeBeLe Dagger | I helped with Zindra Expo 2009 I coordinated education |
[10:16] | only in sl | We need to setup a separate meeting with Zexpo group |
[10:17] | Evelynn Kidd | ginette is online if you want me to call her |
[10:17] | Counter Landfall | she just posted in the forum about pointless meeting... |
[10:17] | only in sl | We need to make zexpo a Resident run group and remove any special land rights from the group |
[10:17] | Counter Landfall | sounds like the right thing to do |
[10:17] | Evelynn Kidd | a seperate meeting would be better |
[10:18] | only in sl | the fair thing to do |
[10:18] | Qie | hmmm. I'm not finding zexpo in search of groups |
[10:18] | JeZeBeLe Dagger | Counter I disagree she wants to create a event community network.. Viale that needed to be done at every event when it was over lol. |
[10:18] | only in sl | we wiill coordinate a meeting with the zepo officers |
[10:18] | JeZeBeLe Dagger | I certainly agree Viale lol |
[10:19] | only in sl | ok moving onto 4. Third form of communication |
[10:19] | only in sl | This is Ginnette's item |
[10:19] | only in sl | she is not here |
[10:19] | only in sl | moving onto 5 |
[10:20] | only in sl | chnage of founder for the Adult Vortex sandbox |
[10:20] | only in sl | This is a ginette item |
[10:20] | only in sl | 6. DG Kiosks |
[10:20] | JeZeBeLe Dagger | I found a teenager in the adult vortex |
[10:20] | JeZeBeLe Dagger | i dont even think he was 10 years old |
[10:20] | only in sl | Report that to Support |
[10:21] | JeZeBeLe Dagger | it was reported by RHN |
[10:21] | JeZeBeLe Dagger | yes |
[10:21] | Evelynn Kidd | then she was not a teenage |
[10:21] | only in sl | So we talked about DG Kiosks |
[10:22] | only in sl | We have decided to put Linden effort into making the Destination floater in the SL viewer more flexible to have an adult category and others |
[10:22] | Counter Landfall | Counter Landfall listening |
[10:23] | only in sl | There was an agenda item that is missing - age verification |
[10:23] | only in sl | It is still a challenge |
[10:24] | Dee Kass | yes |
[10:24] | only in sl | We will work with the user experience team to make this easier |
[10:24] | Dee Kass | the kids lie |
[10:24] | only in sl | its painfule to be inworld, jump to the web, close viewer and restart |
[10:24] | JeZeBeLe Dagger | Since the teen merge i havent felt protected to sell adult items in world. |
[10:25] | Counter Landfall | every day I have residents having been in SL over 1000 days seeking info on how to verify in my age verify info zone. |
[10:25] | Counter Landfall | why? |
[10:25] | Nal | Restarting the viewer is a pain. I suspect some fail to realize a restart is needed. |
[10:25] | Wiener Blut | at all, its the parents who are responsible for the kids to not consume Adult stuff |
[10:25] | only in sl | Agree age verification has improved, but we need to make easier |
[10:25] | Qie | back on the DG kiosks thing -- the viewer category stuff but *not* any rezzed-in-world DG content (other than pointing shared media at a web version of the viewer stuff) ? |
[10:25] | Counter Landfall | incorporate into signup process for all new residents |
[10:26] | JeZeBeLe Dagger | you can say that. I dont trust it. i dont trust my liability tojust be remidied by blaming others for children purchasing my items. nope. |
[10:26] | only in sl | going back in forth in the application is a clumsy experience |
[10:26] | Counter Landfall | New meny item on Help in the viewer, pointing directly to the page? |
[10:27] | Counter Landfall | menu* |
[10:27] | only in sl | Ok = those are the agenda items for today. Any question on those items |
[10:27] | Dee Kass | plus when an Adult tries to TP to a age verified needed area they get lost trying to verify |
[10:27] | only in sl | I hear you Dee |
[10:28] | only in sl | We will make the experience better |
[10:28] | Qie | yes, sorry, I tried to ask about the DG stuff. Good to hear about the viewer categories, but does that mean we won't be getting any way to see DG content on rezzed-in-world prims? |
[10:28] | Xiola Linden | it's something we are looking into ways to make improvements on, so thank you for the ideas (age verification) |
[10:28] | Dee Kass | Yes I perused the last meeting notes & it seems Adult employment was left for duscusion @ a later time |
[10:29] | Nal | When a non-age ver uses the map in several viewers that is no error message. The tp button stays gray. No help is given. TPV's are really bad about that. |
[10:29] | only in sl | We will make the effort in the viewer for now. |
[10:29] | Qie | okay, thanks Viale. I'll let that drop for now, then. |
[10:29] | Martin RJ | I'd prefer something like the blogger content warning |
[10:30] | only in sl | Qie - its not a bad idea, but we think the priority is in the viewer |
[10:30] | Qie | understood. |
[10:30] | Xiola Linden | @Dee - we did touch on it and it was the feeling that doing a sep. category would isolate the group |
[10:30] | Martin RJ | with a button 'I agree and wish to proceed' after reading in a popup about that the following content is only for 18+ |
[10:30] | Dee Kass | exactly to Adult |
[10:31] | only in sl | Yes, we should look at existing web exampkes |
[10:31] | only in sl | The way google treats it as well |
[10:31] | Dee Kass | why is adult verify not offered at sign up? |
[10:32] | Dee Kass | why leave it to them fiburing it out later? |
[10:32] | Xiola Linden | @Dee in a negative way. Since the threads in adult are subject to the same terms as the non-adult areas, it may not have much benefit to isolate it to adult employment |
[10:32] | JeZeBeLe Dagger | i think in world that would be advisable too. "yuo have landed in an adult age verified space, please check yes or no if you are 18 years or older." |
[10:32] | Dee Kass | figuring* |
[10:32] | Innula Zenovka | any progress on the DG misreporting the number of people present at some venues? |
[10:32] | Nal | Google's blog notices are annoying. Seems there would be a better way. |
[10:32] | only in sl | @Innula - that we will be part of the Viewer/Destinations work |
[10:32] | Innula Zenovka | thanks |
[10:32] | Counter Landfall | @Jez, you can't ask after you have landed. The damage is already done for some then |
[10:33] | only in sl | The DG needs to be better in the viewer |
[10:33] | only in sl | The search implementation does not show sub categories |
[10:34] | only in sl | If you guys have any more items, please feel free to contact community@lindenlab.com or on the adult forum feedback |
[10:34] | only in sl | Thanks for your time |
[10:34] | Counter Landfall | ok, thanks |
[10:34] | JeZeBeLe Dagger | thank you for the meeting |
[10:35] | Dee Kass | bye everyone |
[10:35] | Qie | Well, actually, in Search, there is an "Adults Only" category under Destination Guide... but the Destinations floater itself doesn't have an Adult category (but it does have Vampires, somehow) |
[10:35] | Evelynn Kidd | thanks for your time only and xiola |
[10:35] | Xiola Linden | thanks all! I'll keep an eye out for your PM, Innula |
[10:35] | Innula Zenovka | thank you, viale and Xiola |
[10:35] | Qie | Thanks Viale and Xiola |