Adult Content User Group/09/06/2011
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- Angelena Collins (angelena.collins)
- AnnMarie Otoole (annmarie.otoole)(User's Wiki Page)
- Chriz Collins (chriz.collins)
- Chucky Takacs (chucky.takacs)
- Couldbe (couldbe)
- Counter Landfall (counter.landfall)
- Evelynn Kidd (evelynn.kidd)
- Huntress Catteneo (huntress.catteneo)
- Innula Zenovka (innula.zenovka)
- Pamala Clift (pamala.clift)
- Pine Martinek (pine.martinek)
- Qie (qie)
- Temperance Hax (temperance.hax)
- Viale Linden (viale.linden)
Transcript for Tuesday September 6, 2011
[11:00] | Viale Linden | lets give everyone a few min |
[11:00] | Counter Landfall | Hi CouldBe, Qie |
[11:00] | Viale Linden | not sure everyone got the change |
[11:02] | Couldbe | Innula is on her way, she says she'll be a couple of minutes |
[11:04] | Viale Linden | Ok |
[11:05] | Qie | Oh. Hi Slaton. |
[11:05] | Pamala Clift | Greetings all.. |
[11:05] | Viale Linden | some new folks today |
[11:05] | Counter Landfall | Hi everyone again |
[11:05] | Viale Linden | Sorry we moved the meeting, but Monday was a US holiday |
[11:06] | Viale Linden | will move back to Mondays |
[11:07] | Viale Linden | so I wanted to remind everyone about the 9/12 deadline for the Adult community gateway submissions |
[11:08] | Viale Linden | I also wanted to let everyone know that we are not tied to making this 4 regions in the mainland. We are open to a 4 region private estate with no setup fee but the normal region price |
[11:08] | Viale Linden | Thanks Qie |
[11:09] | Counter Landfall | why would that be a better deal in your opinion? |
[11:09] | Innula Zenovka | is that the normal region price for private estates? |
[11:09] | Viale Linden | yes, with no setup fee |
[11:09] | Viale Linden | I understand this would give the owner more control |
[11:09] | Viale Linden | or owners |
[11:10] | Counter Landfall | margianlly so, yes |
[11:10] | Viale Linden | I also want to say that we plan to promote Adult search, gateway and destinations to new users that age verify with an automated email |
[11:10] | Innula Zenovka | though it would also be considerably more expensive and mean that group members couldn't help out by contributing tier |
[11:11] | Pine Martinek | isn't there less explorer/walk in traffic in estate/islands though? |
[11:11] | Counter Landfall | but how do you prompt them to age verify in the first place? |
[11:11] | Counter Landfall | and besides, Viale answer me this: |
[11:11] | Counter Landfall | does not everyoen have to staste their age at signup? |
[11:12] | Counter Landfall | state* |
[11:12] | Qie | ah, I see. So... if they're to pay the US$195/sim/mo of Mainland, they'd remain in the Mainland estate. to be a separate estate, they'd need to pay the US$295/sim/mo fee. That probably wouldn't be a huge draw, I'd guess. I was thinking that, even at the Mainland tier fee, it might make sense to run it as a separate Estate (even for LL's purposes) |
[11:12] | Innula Zenovka | i don't know if private vs mainland is a key factor in traffic, Pine. I mean, Bondage Ranch and the Gor Hub are always very busy |
[11:12] | Viale Linden | Just like the internet, whenever one comes int contact with Adult content for the 1st time, they need to consent |
[11:12] | Counter Landfall | exactly |
[11:13] | Counter Landfall | so everyone over 18 has age verified |
[11:13] | Counter Landfall | they only need to set a pref in their viewer |
[11:13] | Viale Linden | upon doing that, they will get an email to highlight search and destinatinations |
[11:13] | Pamala Clift | I have been in world for a long time.. all over all the grids.. but sometimes I am kicked back into age verification? What does that.. |
[11:13] | Viale Linden | The email will also explain viewer settings - key |
[11:13] | Counter Landfall | so why is it that you cn't prompt them to do so on signup? |
[11:13] | Pine Martinek | I just noticed that continents have more 'explorers' dropping in is all |
[11:14] | Viale Linden | its an extra check |
[11:14] | Counter Landfall | yes, it is one more step |
[11:14] | Viale Linden | to make sure they are ready |
[11:14] | Counter Landfall | but you dont need an email |
[11:14] | Viale Linden | email is nice helpful hint plus a plug for adult regions |
[11:15] | Counter Landfall | onece they have comfirmed 18, you tell them to set their prefs for maturity |
[11:15] | Viale Linden | its all good |
[11:15] | Innula Zenovka | i agree. i like the idea of the email |
[11:15] | Innula Zenovka | do people get asking during the sign-up process if they want to take that extra step to confirm their age? |
[11:16] | Counter Landfall | why email if you can do it as part of the signup process? |
[11:16] | Viale Linden | Any Zexpo attendees here? |
[11:16] | Pamala Clift | yes |
[11:16] | Evelynn Kidd | yes |
[11:16] | Pamala Clift | I lectured & had booths |
[11:16] | Viale Linden | wondering about event and if it met everyones expectations |
[11:16] | Counter Landfall | Innula, theyMUST confirm age to set up an account at all |
[11:16] | Pamala Clift | I will respond in IM. |
[11:16] | Evelynn Kidd | i thought is was really great |
[11:16] | Counter Landfall | it is not possible to set it up without stating age |
[11:16] | Counter Landfall | so they have already age verified |
[11:17] | Counter Landfall | unless they say they are under 18 |
[11:17] | Pine Martinek | you mean were all the peolpe pleased all the time , Viale? lol |
[11:17] | Innula Zenovka | yes, i realise that, Counter, but you don't automatically get set up to see adult content, do you? I meant do they asked if they want to go to that page to say "yes, I've given you the right date of birth and i want to see adult content" |
[11:17] | Viale Linden | Thanks Counter - agree the age verification has increased age verified very much since launch, but we could have improvements |
[11:18] | Counter Landfall | no, so in the signup process, once they have confirmed 18, you make an extra step and ask them to set their preferred mauturity |
[11:18] | Counter Landfall | which defualts to G |
[11:18] | Viale Linden | Not sure everyone is ready for that- we dont want define Sl as only adult |
[11:18] | Couldbe | are you actually getting many people admitting to being underage? |
[11:19] | Viale Linden | yes |
[11:19] | Pine Martinek | most figure out the maturity rating step from friends before long anyways |
[11:19] | Counter Landfall | you dont ask them to set adult Viale (you dont ask to Set Them adult Avenue) |
[11:19] | Evelynn Kidd | i know a lot of teens |
[11:19] | Counter Landfall | you aks them to set their maturity prefs |
[11:19] | Counter Landfall | of which one is adult |
[11:19] | Innula Zenovka | my impression is the same, Pine.. i don't see that it's a huge issue, and getting the special email when you do -- as do most people -- take that final step seems a big boost |
[11:20] | Counter Landfall | some may want to only see G and not M and G which is the defualt for 18+ |
[11:20] | Viale Linden | I would also like to remove the step for changing permissions |
[11:20] | Viale Linden | still too hard |
[11:20] | Evelynn Kidd | i think slome of the schools prefer the G default |
[11:20] | Viale Linden | But % increase in age verified is +50% |
[11:21] | Counter Landfall | how hard is drop down menu in a web page? |
[11:21] | Evelynn Kidd | terriffic |
[11:21] | AnnMarie Otoole | Re Question. I think Zexpo went well. I had over 200 visitors to Sin City, made L$15 in sales. It should have run much longer. |
[11:21] | Innula Zenovka | that's very encouraging, viale.. how many active users are, in fact, Age Verified/PIU now, roughly? |
[11:22] | Viale Linden | dont have all that data |
[11:22] | Temperance Hax | sorry tobelate thughtthis was 12 today from website yesterday |
[11:22] | Viale Linden | The good news is we need to find more ways to promote Adult to those that want to find it |
[11:23] | Viale Linden | I think email is a nice way to sell it without saying SL is Adult |
[11:23] | Evelynn Kidd | agreed |
[11:23] | Viale Linden | I have my team working on that |
[11:23] | Counter Landfall | sell it after the fact they have set adult as prefs? |
[11:23] | Viale Linden | we will make it automated |
[11:24] | Viale Linden | after they come in contact with A content and age verify |
[11:24] | Viale Linden | yes, some barriers |
[11:24] | Counter Landfall | but they do age verify on signup |
[11:24] | Counter Landfall | they confirm their age |
[11:24] | Viale Linden | We dont want to hit everybody over the head with adult content |
[11:25] | Evelynn Kidd | i do (and) |
[11:25] | Couldbe | you might like to actually tell people who are already inworld viale - I put it in my newsletter a couple of months back and still get people telling me that that was the first they'd heard of it |
[11:25] | Pamala Clift | What about a comfort level request.. Would you like (after cc validation feel comfortable being including what matutiy level information) |
[11:25] | Counter Landfall | that is another issue Couldbe |
[11:25] | Viale Linden | couldbe +1 |
[11:26] | Counter Landfall | it should have been published to everyone |
[11:27] | Viale Linden | we should definitely promote to active users |
[11:27] | Viale Linden | and new users |
[11:27] | Counter Landfall | What's with the CC validation Pamela? |
[11:27] | Viale Linden | I think the gateway is a great opportunity with these emails |
[11:27] | Chriz Collins | no one ansers me? |
[11:27] | Pamala Clift | Well it is assumed if you have a credit card on file then of course you are past 18.. assuming of course.. |
[11:28] | Counter Landfall | it does not work that way |
[11:28] | Viale Linden | sorry Chriz. repeat? |
[11:28] | Qie | Chriz, I don't think we understand what you asked |
[11:28] | Counter Landfall | LL aks if you are 18 or or not on signup |
[11:28] | Couldbe | chriz, you were out of chat range I suspect. I didn't hear anything until your last comment |
[11:28] | Counter Landfall | if you say yes, you go to all regions |
[11:28] | Counter Landfall | if you say no you only go to G |
[11:28] | Chriz Collins | did i understand right..if i not want go with my 'mainland parcell' change to privates..i ll...loose my land? |
[11:28] | Viale Linden | can someone explain Chriz; question |
[11:29] | Counter Landfall | there is no other confirmation if you re uder 18 or not |
[11:29] | Viale Linden | Pam - CC is not good enough |
[11:29] | Viale Linden | Teens have CCs |
[11:29] | Angelena Collins | if we don't want our land to be private land, will we lose our land? |
[11:30] | Couldbe | what language do you speak chriz? |
[11:30] | Viale Linden | no one is losing land |
[11:30] | Counter Landfall | and the CC companies does not approve that information is used for age validation |
[11:30] | Pamala Clift | nods.. well it use to be.. but I acknowledge things are changing in that regard. |
[11:30] | Pine Martinek | german |
[11:30] | Couldbe | does anyone speak german here? |
[11:30] | Pamala Clift | we can turn on a translator? |
[11:30] | Chucky Takacs | i do (and) |
[11:30] | Temperance Hax | have the screen before login blog posts been restored (with techs treams left out) |
[11:30] | Counter Landfall | I understand German a bit, yes |
[11:31] | Chriz Collins | hmmm |
[11:31] | Temperance Hax | those get to eevryone, and give things exposure |
[11:31] | Chucky Takacs | you can im me in german, i can translate it |
[11:31] | Counter Landfall | What is the question in German chriz? |
[11:31] | Viale Linden | Chris - no one is losing land |
[11:31] | Chriz Collins | you want do private Region.... |
[11:31] | Viale Linden | sorry |
[11:31] | Chriz Collins | but i not want privte land |
[11:31] | Viale Linden | we were discussing a proposal for an adult content gateway |
[11:32] | Couldbe | chucky are you talking to chriz? |
[11:32] | Chucky Takacs | yes, was trying that, |
[11:32] | Qie | I'm *guessing* that Chriz's issue isn't related to the Gateway proposal. (not sure, though) |
[11:32] | Viale Linden | see this Chriz |
[11:32] | Chriz Collins | and...all land will be then privaze land in zindra then? |
[11:32] | Viale Linden | https://docs.google.com/a/lindenlab.com/document/d/1ou1-uettLf8_ybksVnweAbS4B-U91eAKEAwMUMfwaW0/edit?hl=en_US&ndplr=1 |
[11:33] | Viale Linden | No, chriz |
[11:33] | Chriz Collins | ahh ok... (ahh ca ..) |
[11:33] | Viale Linden | Zindra = mainland |
[11:33] | Chriz Collins | i read the thread |
[11:33] | Viale Linden | I am talking about Adult Content |
[11:33] | Pine Martinek | Zindra is mainland, the adult LL continent |
[11:33] | Viale Linden | This is the Adult User Group not to be confused with Zindra only issues |
[11:34] | Chriz Collins | was missunderstand then |
[11:34] | Pine Martinek | same tier as G or mature |
[11:34] | Chriz Collins | :) |
[11:34] | Temperance Hax | chriz are yu asking if your land will be made private without your wanting it to |
[11:34] | Chriz Collins | yes |
[11:35] | Viale Linden | Ok |
[11:35] | Viale Linden | anyone working on proposals |
[11:35] | Pine Martinek | I think Chriz thought zindra was estate |
[11:35] | Counter Landfall | no Chriz. Viale said that as an alternative the 4 gateway sims could be provided as private regions |
[11:35] | Chriz Collins | no...i know is mainland |
[11:35] | Chucky Takacs | i was a litle late, so maybe a repeated Q here: did we discuss tier on the LL proposal yet? |
[11:35] | Temperance Hax | Adult mainland will remain the same |
[11:35] | Counter Landfall | that would not have any effect on the Zindra regions |
[11:35] | Viale Linden | or have any questions about the request for proposals |
[11:36] | Chriz Collins | ohh ok...sry then...missunderstud |
[11:36] | Temperance Hax | :) |
[11:36] | AnnMarie Otoole | Is Expo now dead? It should have run a month for all the work that was done, or even permanent. Lots of newbies discovering adult content. |
[11:36] | Pine Martinek | if the gateway regions are estate, can we use out mainland tier for them, you mean? |
[11:36] | Temperance Hax | Is the name Zindra still going to be sold? or canwe have the Zindra Chip shop ? |
[11:36] | Pine Martinek | *our |
[11:37] | Counter Landfall | Ann, you have the oportunity to buy 4 sims for a permanet zexpo (Ann, you have the Opportunity to buy four sims for a permanet zexpo) |
[11:37] | Viale Linden | Chucky - based on some feedback from users here, we have opened the proposal to be zindra mainland or an A private regions (4) |
[11:37] | Evelynn Kidd | i agree annmarie, i could only explore part of zexpo |
[11:37] | Chucky Takacs | yes, i did read that, but that will add a lot of tier to many of us |
[11:37] | Chucky Takacs | and the poor 4 that need to manage it.... |
[11:37] | Temperance Hax | Lots of people adored Zexpo |
[11:38] | Chucky Takacs | what if at one moment they stand alone |
[11:38] | Viale Linden | Poor 4? |
[11:38] | Chucky Takacs | the proposal asks for 4 people that are responsible for tier |
[11:38] | AnnMarie Otoole | And rent them out Counter? LOL. Personally, with all the lack of unity in Zindra relationships, I just can't see sufficient coordination to find volunteers to pay the 4x tier. |
[11:38] | Chucky Takacs | i agree Ann |
[11:39] | Viale Linden | Zindra will be part of parcel name if requested |
[11:39] | Evelynn Kidd | a selling point |
[11:39] | Counter Landfall | if it is a true adult gateway I am not sure there is much point in the Zindra name |
[11:39] | Viale Linden | If there is no suitable Gateway proposal, we will just move on. |
[11:39] | Chucky Takacs | Cost is always an issue |
[11:40] | Pine Martinek | move on, and table it again next week? |
[11:40] | Viale Linden | Zexpo will no longer be managed by LL and the Zindra sim will be renamed |
[11:40] | AnnMarie Otoole | The gateway owner would have to rent access/advertising pathways, I just can't see that happening. |
[11:40] | Temperance Hax | yes I think now Zexpo is over people will have time to think |
[11:41] | Couldbe | what do you mean by move on? |
[11:41] | Viale Linden | Is everyone OK with the 9/12 deadline? |
[11:41] | Couldbe | are you planning on putting them up for individual sale? |
[11:41] | Chucky Takacs | ok, for me |
[11:41] | Counter Landfall | yes |
[11:41] | Evelynn Kidd | abstain |
[11:41] | Pine Martinek | Viale was looking for input on an adult gateway |
[11:41] | AnnMarie Otoole | Have any viable proposals been received, Viale? |
[11:42] | Innula Zenovka | i was wondering that |
[11:42] | Viale Linden | a couple so far have been recieved, but not viab;e |
[11:42] | Viale Linden | I am fine with Gateway for the record |
[11:42] | Temperance Hax | give it an extra week or so I think |
[11:42] | Viale Linden | I thought it was a good opportunity |
[11:43] | Pine Martinek | I feel it should be mainland, less tier problems, and the added powers of estate owners aren't that huge |
[11:43] | Chriz Collins | yes extra week is good |
[11:43] | Temperance Hax | The addedpowers of estate are very big |
[11:43] | Viale Linden | However, the destination guide is a good alternative for adult locations |
[11:43] | Angelena Collins | Zindra should not change name |
[11:43] | Innula Zenovka | is there a plan b in case you don't get any viable proposals, viale? |
[11:43] | Temperance Hax | being able to tell what script has gone crazy is huge at big events |
[11:43] | Temperance Hax | soo imprtant |
[11:44] | Chucky Takacs | i don't feel that a gateway should be a private iniciative |
[11:44] | AnnMarie Otoole | It is a great idea but a big investment for someone with no reasonable return on investment unless they could levy taxes on Zindra residents. |
[11:44] | Viale Linden | The central promotion will be the Destination Guide |
[11:44] | Temperance Hax | we had one zexpo sim grind to halt because of a texture changer anditwas not easy to figure with no estate tools |
[11:44] | Pine Martinek | doesn't V2 have a script list for parcels? |
[11:44] | Qie | Estate ban could be important, specifically for the Gateway function. |
[11:44] | Viale Linden | Yes, Qie |
[11:44] | Viale Linden | one needs to govern it |
[11:45] | Counter Landfall | estate ban can be implemented quite easily on mianland too |
[11:45] | Viale Linden | great opportunity for advertising of other mainland and adult regions |
[11:45] | Viale Linden | rentals too |
[11:45] | Temperance Hax | Perhaps people could donate extra tier to the project in return for thre months of shop rights scaled tot he amount of tier |
[11:45] | Pine Martinek | parcel owners could just keep a ban list? |
[11:45] | Chucky Takacs | i managed badly, his can be the end of zindra all the way |
[11:46] | Counter Landfall | how can it be the end of Zindra? |
[11:46] | Temperance Hax | they will own zindra name, but we can just call it thingumy continent and go on:) |
[11:46] | Viale Linden | However, I imagine the new gateway will have traffic due to high promotion from LL reources |
[11:46] | Chucky Takacs | the gateway, is the starting point for noobs, if you do that bad, they just go away |
[11:46] | Angelena Collins | we pay enought tier now |
[11:47] | Evelynn Kidd | we are only talking about the one gateway sim and the 4 zexpo sims |
[11:47] | Counter Landfall | if you plan on forking out $800 in monthly tier, there is no room for bad |
[11:47] | Chucky Takacs | so that scares me if that is in private hands |
[11:47] | Qie | wait, i think we mean the 4 gateway sims... that were Zexpo sims. |
[11:47] | Chucky Takacs | i hope you put your hand in the fire for that then |
[11:47] | Temperance Hax | I prefer LL doing it because they are neutral |
[11:47] | Pine Martinek | to get new people I have 30 bots that spam them with LM to my shop, and I set them loose in welcome areas |
[11:47] | Pine Martinek | kidding |
[11:48] | Temperance Hax | itis like seating at a wedding |
[11:48] | Temperance Hax | the nutral people are the hosts |
[11:48] | Chucky Takacs | i agree |
[11:48] | Huntress Catteneo | sorry yesterday I was told meet at 12 :( |
[11:48] | Temperance Hax | (if anyonehas beento a weeding and seen uncle bertsat next to sat nex to cousing gertie and a food fight..) |
[11:49] | Viale Linden | Just bringing reidents forward and moving LL behind the scenes. It is a change, but one we see as necessary after reviewing the status quo of LL sims in adult regions |
[11:49] | Innula Zenovka | if people want to access adult content, i don't think a bad experience at a gateway will put them off too much.. and i have to say that, in general, private estates seem at least as well run as LL-run ones |
[11:49] | Viale Linden | sorry Huntress |
[11:49] | Counter Landfall | well, it does not remove your obligation to have search, DG and events working also for adult regions |
[11:49] | Viale Linden | Or better - innula |
[11:50] | Innula Zenovka | Innula Zenovka was being diplomatic
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[11:50] | Counter Landfall | that is what we already pay for |
[11:50] | Viale Linden | I have seen LL chat zones and the White tiger- big difference |
[11:50] | Pine Martinek | a gateway may end up just being huge adboards you mean, and scare them away? |
[11:50] | Viale Linden | That would be a shame |
[11:50] | Chucky Takacs | can be pine |
[11:50] | Viale Linden | We would review the performance of the gateway |
[11:51] | Huntress Catteneo | have that now |
[11:51] | Viale Linden | we will not let it be like Zindra sim |
[11:51] | Counter Landfall | what would the metrics be Viale? |
[11:51] | AnnMarie Otoole | Is there a plan B for the Zexpo sims if no viable plan surfaces? |
[11:51] | Counter Landfall | you'd need to make that known upfront |
[11:51] | Huntress Catteneo | places on sims next to gateways have huge signs facing in |
[11:51] | Viale Linden | We need excitement and we dont need LL as the middleman (current situation) |
[11:52] | Viale Linden | let me answer Ann Marie |
[11:52] | Evelynn Kidd | i am exciting |
[11:52] | Temperance Hax | LL cant do one? have an entry point at zindra? perhasp rotate groups doing it so its content changes every three months? |
[11:52] | Pine Martinek | would a group with a democratic admin work to police the gateway? |
[11:53] | Viale Linden | If we do not get a proposal, then the plan B promote unofficial gateways |
[11:53] | Viale Linden | However the status quo is going away |
[11:53] | Counter Landfall | meaning? |
[11:53] | Chucky Takacs | can you put one at the center of my shop, lol |
[11:54] | Huntress Catteneo | what do see as being the status quo? |
[11:54] | Viale Linden | counter - is that ? at me? |
[11:54] | Counter Landfall | yes |
[11:54] | Counter Landfall | what does an unoffical gateway mean? |
[11:54] | Viale Linden | The LL presence in Zindra and adult land will go away |
[11:54] | Counter Landfall | and does that include a web baased gateway? |
[11:55] | Couldbe | you'll let various landowners set up and put them in the dg if they meet certain rules? |
[11:55] | Temperance Hax | What about the sandbox? |
[11:55] | Viale Linden | Counter - there are welcome areas in Adult today |
[11:55] | Temperance Hax | Zindra Vortex? It is a lovely thing |
[11:55] | Viale Linden | TBd |
[11:55] | Counter Landfall | yes, but again, if you take this route, you need to have criterias otherwise it will be completely random |
[11:56] | Temperance Hax | LL used ot have hubs, perhaps those could be at Zindra |
[11:56] | Counter Landfall | which you also need to have and make know upfront when you say you want to evaluate the gateway |
[11:56] | Chucky Takacs | and a way to not excude the "medium level" players |
[11:56] | Viale Linden | Brett Linden will review and it will each submission to teh destinatin Guide |
[11:56] | Counter Landfall | developing a gatewy is a massive udnertaking in both time and monetary efforts |
[11:57] | Viale Linden | agree - dont doubt that |
[11:57] | Counter Landfall | so anyone doing it will need to know what criterias you will benchmark it agaisnt |
[11:57] | Temperance Hax | I think Vortex has a valuable role- evenif it is just fr rezzing clumps that mayhave sex beds lol |
[11:57] | Viale Linden | Send me a proposal - criteria is there |
[11:58] | Counter Landfall | well, you must be albe to define your own success factors |
[11:58] | Pine Martinek | does LL have the abilty to figure out how much revenue is made in Zindra? |
[11:58] | Temperance Hax | Canwe have a time extension for proposal please |
[11:58] | Counter Landfall | and would we be able to demand traffic guarantees from you? |
[11:59] | Viale Linden | Temp - for the gateway proposal? |
[11:59] | Counter Landfall | if you dont send traffic in the direction of the gateway, then no pay |
[11:59] | Temperance Hax | yes |
[11:59] | Pine Martinek | traffic guarantees = ? |
[11:59] | Temperance Hax | for the gateway proposal |
[11:59] | Viale Linden | Lets give it one more week with 9/19 |
[12:00] | Temperance Hax | thank you |
[12:00] | Counter Landfall | all right |
[12:00] | Counter Landfall | I will relay that to ZA |
[12:00] | Viale Linden | vortex is on mainland |
[12:00] | Viale Linden | will not goaway |
[12:00] | Huntress Catteneo | so what exactly happens with Vortex? that is a proposal as well? |
[12:00] | Couldbe | since the kids have only just gone back to school and what you're asking for is pretty detailed |
[12:00] | Viale Linden | zexpo regions are going away |
[12:00] | Couldbe | why don't you make it the end of the month |
[12:01] | Couldbe | I really would suggest that |
[12:01] | Temperance Hax | Oh good, I feel Vortex is all to good:) |
[12:01] | Viale Linden | end of month |
[12:01] | Temperance Hax | agrees with couldbe |
[12:01] | Counter Landfall | good |
[12:01] | Viale Linden | August and sept are hard for sure |
[12:01] | Evelynn Kidd | i use vortex as my sandbox of choice |
[12:02] | Couldbe | we do need a premium adult sandbox as well |
[12:02] | Viale Linden | nice idea |
[12:02] | Viale Linden | couldbe |
[12:02] | Viale Linden | ok |
[12:02] | Temperance Hax | oh yesss lovely |
[12:02] | Viale Linden | time is up |
[12:02] | Evelynn Kidd | thanks |