Community Translation Project/Office Hours/2009 10 13

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[13:05] Lexie Linden: If we use Second Life or other trademarked images then it is going to be hard to use this logo in other ways
[13:05] Zai Lynch: hehe ty mono ^^
[13:05] Monochrome Tomorrow: :D
[13:05] Lexie Linden: Hi Zai : )
[13:05] Zai Lynch: ellow :-)
[13:05] BlckCobra Shikami: only one uses the logo (hand) so far
[13:06] Lexie Linden: So, for example: look up the Linden Department of Public Works group
[13:06] Zussa Ryba: i like the hand ㋡
[13:06] Lexie Linden: They made a graphic but its "general" so they can use it..mod it as needed etc
[13:06] Lexie Linden: I think we need to do that and not get tied up in any "restrictions?"
[13:06] Lexie Linden: Do you think that makes sense?
[13:07] BlckCobra Shikami: LOL no
[13:07] Lexie Linden: rofl
[13:07] BlckCobra Shikami: 1 of 7 suggestiosn contains a part of the Second Life Logo - the rest is done completely new
[13:08] BlckCobra Shikami: not the big hit yet ... but well, we are not (professional) designers
[13:08] Lexie Linden: I think just taking the "Second Life" part out would make everything easier
[13:08] Lexie Linden: I like the suggestions so far
[13:08] BlckCobra Shikami: huh?
[13:08] Lexie Linden: I think we should go with Community Translators or Community Translation Projects
[13:08] Zussa Ryba: why is ther one with a german flag in it?
[13:09] BlckCobra Shikami: We are translating for Secpond Life but we may not use the name Second Life in a logo we want to use?
[13:09] BlckCobra Shikami: the german flag was a sample: the idea was to create a logo for each language group with their own colors
[13:09] Lexie Linden: If we use it then it will be hard to use the logo in other ways since you cannot modify trademarked stuff
[13:10] Monochrome Tomorrow: i agree lexie
[13:10] BlckCobra Shikami: So we are just Community Translators for <put here whatever you want>?
[13:10] Lexie Linden: Example..The Mentors group logo..
[13:11] Lexie Linden: it says "Second Life" and it really cannot be modified. It is less useful
[13:11] BlckCobra Shikami: okay, not arguing - but this sounds somehow ridiculous: we are doing translations for free for Second Life/Linden Lab and we may not use the name/brand "Second Life" in a logo? Sound weird to me ... not insiting on the Second life reference
[13:11] Lexie Linden: no, Im not saying we cannot. Im thinking of how the logo could be the most useful for all group members
[13:12] Monochrome Tomorrow: without copyright and trademark restirctions bla bla bal
[13:12] Lexie Linden: I can still talk to legal and get some approval on one that has the trademarked items.
[13:12] Lexie Linden: right Mono
[13:12] Lexie Linden: I was thinking of PR for the group and how it would be nice to make signs etc. I thought flexibility on the logo would help
[13:13] BlckCobra Shikami: sure, I understand the no "copyright" etc idea. But why create a logo at all if if does not refer in any way to Second Life?
[13:13] BlckCobra Shikami: I am not a general translator for everyone. I do it for the Second Life community
[13:13] Lexie Linden: Well, we would be using it in I think it is understood
[13:13] Lexie Linden: Your title says Community Translator as well
[13:14] Monochrome Tomorrow: the Lab can lend us an ct account :D
[13:14] Lexie Linden: But, I will leave this up to the group. I can message the group and get additional feedback too
[13:15] BlckCobra Shikami: ok, I stop arguing LOL - I don't care if there is "Second Life" in the logo or not ... but I do not really understand it
[13:15] BlckCobra Shikami: but that's me :-)
[13:15] Zussa Ryba: the best logo of my opinion is number 4
[13:15] Lexie Linden: lol
[13:15] Zussa Ryba: its somehow similar to the SL logo
[13:15] Zussa Ryba: and is very simple and with speed inside it too
[13:15] Monochrome Tomorrow: i remind blck'S idea with the foot
[13:16] Monochrome Tomorrow: nr.7
[13:16] Lexie Linden: I like #4 as well. Also the foot!
[13:16] Zussa Ryba: the others with the people around the globe are from different UN constellations
[13:16] Zussa Ryba: and the book is too dry for me
[13:16] Lexie Linden: Are you going to put the foot in the jira?
[13:16] Lexie Linden: Mono
[13:17] Monochrome Tomorrow: i did
[13:17] BlckCobra Shikami: she did already
[13:17] Zussa Ryba: i wont walk around in SL with round glasses on my nose
[13:17] BlckCobra Shikami: BlckCobra Shikami sticks her foot in her mouth
[13:17] Zussa Ryba: and books under my arm
[13:17] Lexie Linden: oh there it is..I had to refresh
[13:17] Zai Lynch: ^^
[13:17] Monochrome Tomorrow: hehe
[13:17] Zussa Ryba:
[13:18] Lexie Linden: I will try to rally the group and get more designs and feedback too so we can have a logo soon!
[13:18] Zussa Ryba: good- make it simple anc speedy...
[13:18] Zussa Ryba: and
[13:18] Lexie Linden: Next week there will be special CT meetings with Ramzi
[13:18] Lexie Linden: There will be 2 times so more can attend
[13:19] Lexie Linden: This will relate to new jiras that will be coming and the process to participate
[13:19] BlckCobra Shikami: ok, so no news and no talk on the viewer 2010 translation strings
[13:19] BlckCobra Shikami: today
[13:19] Lexie Linden: Thats next week ㋡
[13:19] BlckCobra Shikami: ok
[13:19] Lexie Linden: I will start sending the reminder notices early so all can try to attend
[13:20] Lexie Linden: It will be a meeting full of information and talk about using an NDA for segments of the upcoming project
[13:20] Lexie Linden: One will be early in the day and then one at our normal time
[13:21] Lexie Linden: Do you all know what an NDA is?
[13:21] Lexie Linden: Non-disclosure Agreement
[13:21] Zussa Ryba: i have some problems....
[13:21] Lexie Linden: ok
[13:21] Zussa Ryba: ok
[13:21] Zussa Ryba: got it
[13:21] Lexie Linden: : ))
[13:21] BlckCobra Shikami: I have filled out so many that I may not say anything anymore ;-)
[13:21] Lexie Linden: lol
[13:21] Lexie Linden: funnyy
[13:21] Zai Lynch: ^^
[13:22] Lexie Linden: Last week I asked for stories of your most successful, meaningful or fun experience as a translators
[13:22] Lexie Linden: Was anyone able to do that?
[13:22] Lexie Linden: I think the community would love to hear about that type thing
[13:23] Monochrome Tomorrow: i found zai is my succesful story
[13:23] Lexie Linden: haha
[13:23] Monochrome Tomorrow: lol
[13:23] Lexie Linden: Zai is a success story for sure!!
[13:23] Lexie Linden: : )
[13:23] Zai Lynch: lol ^_^;
[13:23] BlckCobra Shikami: honestly being in public is not a good idea as what ui
[13:23] BlckCobra Shikami: i LEARNED LATELY
[13:23] Lexie Linden: why?
[13:23] BlckCobra Shikami: sorry
[13:23] BlckCobra Shikami: keyboard acted up :-)
[13:24] BlckCobra Shikami: many hate mails and IMs from people who do not like your answers or do not like to see your name mentioned somewhere
[13:24] Lexie Linden: ahh ok
[13:24] BlckCobra Shikami: you can guess it sometimes already from the style of conversation in SL Answers
[13:24] Lexie Linden: You could also write something and tell me to not say your name
[13:24] Lexie Linden: I see ..yes
[13:24] BlckCobra Shikami: I am about to create an alt to continue work in SL Answers
[13:25] Lexie Linden: I see you and many other volunteers and translators doing great contributions on SL Answers
[13:25] Lexie Linden: It is not easy to be in the "public". I understand
[13:25] Lexie Linden: If you can focus on all the good you are doing it helps. And Answers is doing ALOT of good
[13:26] BlckCobra Shikami: it replaces what support does not perform - sorry to say that ;-)
[13:26] Lexie Linden: You cannot please everyone ㋡
[13:26] BlckCobra Shikami: true
[13:27] Lexie Linden: Well, I think Volunteers have always been there for the community. No matter how great of an official support system there is...Resident to Resident help can just "feel" better?
[13:27] Lexie Linden: If that makes sense?
[13:27] Lexie Linden: Thats how I see it : ))
[13:27] Monochrome Tomorrow: this is the sense of a commuinity
[13:27] Lexie Linden: : ))
[13:27] Monochrome Tomorrow: the lab give us the ability to do it
[13:28] Lexie Linden: Yes and you take the opportunity and make it have impact
[13:28] BlckCobra Shikami: BlckCobra Shikami smiles
[13:28] Lexie Linden: It is hard to even put it in words...the impact
[13:28] Lexie Linden: Its HUGE
[13:28] Lexie Linden:
[13:28] Zai Lynch: I can't really understand the motivation behind writing a hate mail to someone who provides answers in SL™ answers... that just sounds like some people don't know what to do with their free time
[13:28] BlckCobra Shikami: btw: will we have a preview function soon?
[13:29] BlckCobra Shikami: some poeple love to stear up trouble and yes, they have nothing to do
[13:29] Lexie Linden: Zai, I think that's just what can happen in a resource or forum that grows big enough. People DO have spare time lol
[13:29] Zai Lynch: ^^
[13:29] Monochrome Tomorrow: lol
[13:29] BlckCobra Shikami: wb Zussa
[13:29] Zussa Ryba: sorry :(
[13:29] Lexie Linden: I am not sure if a preview function is in the upcoming upgrade
[13:29] BlckCobra Shikami: some sit there with a full gas tank, waiting to light it up :-)
[13:29] Lexie Linden: I asked for it as well
[13:30] Zai Lynch: is there a jira for that where we may vote?
[13:30] BlckCobra Shikami: The formatting in the blog is sometimes hard and you also sometimes don't see your typos. Since posts are mailed out you can correct it later "edit", but teh mail is off
[13:30] Lexie Linden: I have not seen one yet Zai
[13:30] Lexie Linden: If you make one..please link me!
[13:30] Zai Lynch: okido =)
[13:31] BlckCobra Shikami: hmmm, not sure if a Jira entry is a good idea: might take longer then :-)))
[13:31] Zai Lynch: hehe
[13:31] BlckCobra Shikami: okay, I'll shut up ... am a bit PMS today
[13:31] Lexie Linden: I know the upgrade will mark all entries as questions in the Answer area. We need that for all channels including languages
[13:31] Lexie Linden: lol Blck! You are bad today ㋡
[13:32] BlckCobra Shikami: BlckCobra Shikami nods and grins yup!
[13:32] Lexie Linden: bad in a funny way : )
[13:32] Lexie Linden: Did any of you have topics you wanted to bring up?
[13:32] BlckCobra Shikami: yes, but I'll better wait until Ramzi is with us. It refers to the scripting tool tips
[13:32] Lexie Linden: ok
[13:33] Lexie Linden: After next weeks meetings things will pick up
[13:33] BlckCobra Shikami: my quest thru the scripter groups
[13:33] BlckCobra Shikami: :-)
[13:33] Lexie Linden: : ))
[13:33] Zai Lynch: we got some new localization lindens (spanish, italian and portuguese). will they attend a CT meeting? (and most important: did you tell them that they NEED a linden bear to become a proper linden?)
[13:33] BlckCobra Shikami: next week I may leave teh hospital :-))
[13:33] Lexie Linden: Zai I think they will attend. They do need a bear!! I will poke them
[13:33] Lexie Linden: lol
[13:33] BlckCobra Shikami: LOL
[13:33] Zai Lynch: ty ^^
[13:34] Lexie Linden: Hi Radio
[13:34] Zai Lynch: heyas =)
[13:34] Lexie Linden: We are just finishing lol
[13:34] Radioactive Rosca: sorry, i'm too late again
[13:34] Radioactive Rosca: good evening
[13:34] Radioactive Rosca: lol
[13:34] BlckCobra Shikami: yeah and they have to distribute their bear to at least 20 people before they are eligible to bwear the name "Linden"
[13:34] Zussa Ryba: hi radio ㋡
[13:34] Lexie Linden: : )) There will be a transcript
[13:34] Monochrome Tomorrow: you need a better star ship radio :D
[13:34] Zai Lynch: ^_^
[13:34] Radioactive Rosca: ok
[13:34] Lexie Linden: Zai can you do a transcript? If not I can
[13:34] Radioactive Rosca: lol Mono
[13:34] Zai Lynch: ok, will do =)
[13:35] Lexie Linden: Thanks : )
[13:35] BlckCobra Shikami: Hiya Radioactive
[13:35] Lexie Linden: I think we are done ㋡
[13:35] Zai Lynch: does someone have the transcript from last week? or chatlog so i can make one? didn't notice if someone got posted...
[13:35] Radioactive Rosca: hi Cobra
[13:35] BlckCobra Shikami: bye Radioactive
[13:35] Lexie Linden: Thanks for coming today
[13:35] Zai Lynch: (wasn't there)
[13:35] Lexie Linden: I posted one Zai
[13:35] BlckCobra Shikami: LOL
[13:35] Zai Lynch: ah ok :-) ty
[13:35] Lexie Linden: See you all soon ㋡
[13:35] Fisher Linden: thanks, Lexie!
[13:35] Lexie Linden: Thanks for coming Fisher!
[13:35] BlckCobra Shikami: Thx Lexie and Fisher ... see you soon
[13:35] Monochrome Tomorrow: see you soon lexie and fisher ㋡
[13:35] Identity Euler: see you
[13:36] Fisher Linden: It was interesting
[13:36] Radioactive Rosca: bye Lexie
[13:36] Lexie Linden: : ))
[13:36] Radioactive Rosca: Bye Fisher
[13:36] Zai Lynch: cyas :-)
[13:36] BlckCobra Shikami: bye all *poof*
[13:36] Lexie Linden: Bye for now
[13:36] Zussa Ryba: ser dere senere ㋡
[13:36] Zai Lynch: cyas :-)
[13:36] Monochrome Tomorrow: massen tp
[13:37] Zai Lynch: alle flüchten
[13:37] Monochrome Tomorrow: wia sinn sooo lieb
[13:37] Monochrome Tomorrow: eigentlich
[13:37] Zai Lynch: eigentlich
[13:37] Zai Lynch: ^_^
[13:37] Monochrome Tomorrow: *g*
[13:37] Radioactive Rosca: bye mono & Zai
[13:37] Monochrome Tomorrow: bye radio ㋡ ENERGY
[13:37] Zai Lynch: cu Radio :-) tc!
[13:37] Radioactive Rosca: tks
[13:37] Monochrome Tomorrow: ich muss ma eben afk .... kind :S
[13:38] Monochrome Tomorrow: 5 minuten
[13:38] Zai Lynch: oohh oki :-) *knuddel mal von mir
[13:38] Monochrome Tomorrow: oki hehe

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