Doc Team/2010-06-23

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[13:04] ShamelessTrouble Bing: So the doc team doesnt even handle it?
[13:05] Youri Ashton: hey jeremy!
[13:05] Youri Ashton has pinged you.
[13:05] Jeremy Linden: /me waves.
[13:05] Torley Linden: that's right, ShamelessTrouble. Doc Team hasn't done the MOTD in months.
[13:05] Torley Linden: i'm glad you let me know that page was stale though, so i just updated it.
[13:05] Torley Linden: JEREMY
[13:05] Torley Linden has pinged you.
[13:05] Jeremy Linden: TORLEY
[13:05] Jeremy Linden: Heh.
[13:06] Youri Ashton: yo bron
[13:06] Bronson Blackadder: meow
[13:07] Torley Linden: the closest thing i know, ShamelessTrouble, would be to submit to the Destination Guide — are you familiar with it?
[13:07] Torley Linden: the DG does highlight high-profile events at their discretion
[13:07] ShamelessTrouble Bing: I know of it - not how to submit
[13:07] Aargle Zymurgy: hi everyone
[13:07] Geerkil Ziskey: need more furry lindens
[13:08] Torley Linden: submission instructions are on , pardon there's a lot of text. there's certain fine print we had to include after legal concerns.
[13:08] Torley Linden: i'll also mark as dead
[13:08] Torley Linden: so that future confusion doesn't happen
[13:08] Flenser Juergens: I'm sure there are plenty of them.
[13:08] Nathan Adored: Always a moving target, this things, I guess. :D
[13:08] Nathan Adored: *those things
[13:08] ShamelessTrouble Bing: thanks - my day has been a flurry of links that dont work, people that dont handle it - now office hours that dont either - it needs to be cleared up
[13:09] Flenser Juergens: Mentioned it that other week - that there are a nubmer of dragon Lindens.
[13:09] Aargle Zymurgy: /me likes to think his sim qualifies for the Guide. :-)
[13:09] Flenser Juergens: Yes, is hard for you folks to cope with everything.
[13:09] Torley Linden: ShamelessTrouble, that's one of my greatest pains which i can totally relate to. whenever i'm in a position where i can update those links and make sure things WORK as expected, i do.
[13:09] Youri Ashton: there are dragon lindens indeed, mostly small dragons though
[13:09] ShamelessTrouble Bing: thank you
[13:09] ShamelessTrouble Bing: ill try your suggestions
[13:10] Jeremy Linden: /me isn't particularly draconian.
[13:10] Torley Linden: did you already submit, Aargle?
[13:10] Aargle Zymurgy: no... I haven't, but I'm just reading over the qualifications
[13:10] Nathan Adored: some more kid-av lindens would probably help, too. (giggles) Would sure help some of the prejudice aganst kid-avs if some of those who descriminate against kid-avs find out there's kid-av lindens. (giggles)
[13:10] Flenser Juergens: Yes.
[13:11] Torley Linden: Doc Team can and does change a lot of stuff but we often have to find out who "owns" a particular page or fact-check; it's helpful of course when we get complaints that something isn't working, which certainly has prodded me into action many times
[13:11] Flenser Juergens: Some people are just very young at heart and would rather play young people.
[13:11] Nathan Adored: /me nods nods nods
[13:11] Aargle Zymurgy: I have a lot of kid avatars visit my place, but I don't having anything specifically kid oriented... unless you consider 7S fishing appropriate
[13:11] Nathan Adored: Yup. Like me, for instance.
[13:11] Youri Ashton: nathan, people are affraid kid avis are abused, thats why you have such messages
[13:11] Torley Linden: i saw that kid avi advocacy at SL7B
[13:11] Youri Ashton: me 2 torley!
[13:12] Nathan Adored: yup, they had one at the prvious SLB, too
[13:13] Nathan Adored: crickets
[13:13] Torley Linden: WHERE!? IMMA KILL THEM!
[13:13] Torley Linden: oh... crickets
[13:13] Nathan Adored: What did you think I said?!?? :D
[13:13] Nathan Adored: LOL
[13:13] Youri Ashton: hurry torley! they might eat your watermelons!
[13:14] Youri Ashton: :p
[13:14] Jeremy Linden: Torley has an irrational hatred toward creaking insects?
[13:14] Torley Linden: twas joking ;) hahaha
[13:14] Youri Ashton: i know, so was I :p
[13:14] Nathan Adored: Oh, you thought I said critics? :D
[13:14] ShamelessTrouble Bing: do you handle the banner ads on xstreet by chance?
[13:14] Torley Linden: i have been some pretty cool insectoid avatars, i often have dreams i'm in an insectoid starship and they've cleared out all the cargo space in order to make room for weapons xD
[13:14] Aargle Zymurgy: I've gotta run... so much to do in the next few days. but 2 things before I go: 1) Torley, did you get to look at my present I sent you a couple weeks ago? and 2) Torley and Jeremy, thanks again for taking time out of your schedule to spend time in these meetings.
[13:14] Aargle Zymurgy has pinged you.
[13:14] Torley Linden: no i don't, ShamelessTrouble. that would prolly be something to ask Brodesky Linden about
[13:15] Torley Linden: Brodesky handles Xstreet and its successor, the Marketplace
[13:15] ShamelessTrouble Bing: thanks so much for your help!
[13:15] Torley Linden: you're very welcome, and i DO wish there was an easier lookup table for who does what. we've tried it in the past but it doesn't get updated consistently
[13:15] Torley Linden: Aargle, what was it? i don't think i did! and (2) you're super welcome
[13:15] Nathan Adored: Marketplace? XSL is being phased out / folded over into something called the Marketplace? oO
[13:15] Aargle Zymurgy: oh, I'll pass it again.
[13:15] Aargle Zymurgy: one sec
[13:16] Torley Linden: that's correct, Nathan. not just a changing of the name but it's got a much sleeker design and lots of other improvements, so it's a major upgrade.
[13:16] Torley Linden: <- more help will appear there in the future
[13:16] Aargle Zymurgy: 1 prim and a tiny fraction of the existing one's CPU time.
[13:16] Torley Linden: the Marketplace open beta will be announced soon, then in good time, old Xstreet will go bye-bye
[13:16] Aargle Zymurgy: it just needs a new primary texture
[13:16] Nathan Adored: Will all of our Favorites from there be carried over to the new system? oO
[13:17] Torley Linden: i don't know, Nathan -- i know we've experimented with wishlists but i haven't tried favorites
[13:18] Torley Linden: the testing area is down now, or i'd check. some older features are mapped to newer ones, while others don't have an equivalent. the FAQs explain some more in detail.
[13:18] Torley Linden: thanks Aargle, got it!
[13:18] Flenser Juergens: I know this isn't the place, but friends had so problems last night and the support person didn't want to use a rollback on their sim.
[13:19] Aargle Zymurgy: yw.... if you put a new graphic on it, can you send me a new one? I'd like to replace the one in my freebies/noob area.
[13:19] Flenser Juergens: I may end up being promoted to an estate manager ther - in order to help out. A rollback would have been a lot easier for them thou.
[13:19] Torley Linden: there's an idea, Aargle — i don't think i'll be making any new textures for that series anytime soon but i'm glad you let me know
[13:19] Flenser Juergens: Are there any rollbacks being done these days?
[13:20] Aargle Zymurgy: well, I mean, just the front texture. you'll see what I mean when you rez it and look at it.
[13:20] Aargle Zymurgy: I just had to use a screen-cap of your original gizmo
[13:20] Torley Linden: yes, Flenser, but details are beyond what i know
[13:21] Torley Linden: i like how you've efficiencized it into a single prim, Aargle
[13:21] Flenser Juergens: Ok, I remember being told once that rollback data usually extended back for a couple weeks.
[13:21] Torley Linden: Aargle, does this keep delivery stats too?
[13:21] Geerkil Ziskey: How do you go about getting details 9n something?
[13:21] Aargle Zymurgy: yes, just like it did before
[13:21] Flenser Juergens: I thought it odd that the support person didn't want to do it.
[13:21] Torley Linden: ooh
[13:21] Aargle Zymurgy: it behaves identically, howeever, about 1/20th the cpu cost and 1 prim
[13:22] Torley Linden: i'll have to play with this more, then!
[13:22] Aargle Zymurgy: there's the comparison
[13:23] Torley Linden: i like how you've done this research, which viewer is that in the pic?
[13:23] Aargle Zymurgy: that, I think is Emerald
[13:23] Aargle Zymurgy: I've tinkered a bit.
[13:23] Torley Linden: ahh
[13:23] Nathan Adored: where can I get one of those Textures by Torley doohickees?
[13:24] Torley Linden: distribution starts here i suppose, thanks to Aargle!
[13:24] Nathan Adored: nvm, got it
[13:24] Torley Linden: =)
[13:24] Nathan Adored: ty
[13:25] Aargle Zymurgy: heehee
[13:25] Aargle Zymurgy: SL can be too much fun sometimes... but today, I have some work I have to get done. Got my own plans to bring in more people from outside SL.
[13:25] Aargle Zymurgy: bye everyone
[13:25] Torley Linden: take care Aargle and thanx again
[13:26] Aargle Zymurgy: you're very welcome
[13:26] ShamelessTrouble Bing: Have a good day everyone and thanks again Torley!
[13:26] Torley Linden: yer welcome, ShamelessTrouble! best of hope with your promotions
[13:26] ShamelessTrouble Bing: thanks!
[13:27] Geerkil Ziskey: /me tried to steal Jeremy's and Torley's Linden bears
[13:27] Geerkil Ziskey has pinged you.
[13:27] Jeremy Linden: Wha?
[13:27] Youri Ashton: oh bears, reminds me!
[13:27] Geerkil Ziskey: for my collection
[13:27] Youri Ashton: does anyone want a Helen Keller Day 2010 pandabear? :)
[13:28] Nathan Adored: sure, what the hey! :D
[13:28] Geerkil Ziskey: thznx
[13:28] Nathan Adored: ty
[13:28] Youri Ashton: np!
[13:28] Youri Ashton: well, was my idea actually
[13:28] Youri Ashton: last year i created one as well
[13:28] Nathan Adored: Someone likes both Helen Keller, and pandas? :D
[13:29] Youri Ashton: well, panda's yes, but the helen keller day is a event i am working on together with an entire team :)
[13:29] Youri Ashton: hey teagan!
[13:29] Teagan Linden: Hey :)
[13:30] Youri Ashton: come join us!
[13:30] Youri Ashton: dotn have to be scared, we wont bite :p
[13:30] Youri Ashton: just nibble perhaps
[13:30] Youri Ashton: lol
[13:30] Nathan Adored: much. :D
[13:30] Teagan Linden: I'm not so sure o_0
[13:30] Youri Ashton: lol
[13:30] Torley Linden: Teag!
[13:30] Jeremy Linden: /me takes a headcount and realizes that Nathan is probably the only Resident here who doesn't have pointy teeth.
[13:30] Youri Ashton: anyone else for a HKD 2010 pandabear?
[13:31] Teagan Linden: Hey Torley!
[13:31] Nathan Adored: Oh, do have a seat please, Teagan Linden. :D
[13:31] Flenser Juergens: Yes, please. I'd like abear.
[13:31] Teagan Linden: am I sitting on anyone?
[13:31] Youri Ashton: nope
[13:31] Teagan Linden: darn :/
[13:31] Youri Ashton: lol
[13:31] Nathan Adored: not unless they're really, really tiny. :D
[13:32] Youri Ashton: there ya go flenser!
[13:33] Youri Ashton: (sorry, was takinga few pics) :)
[13:33] Flenser Juergens: Thank you. Have a amantle where I'm starting a collection.
[13:33] Youri Ashton: its copyable, so wouldnt be a problem :)
[13:33] Jeremy Linden: Heh. If you collect them all, you're going to need a big mantle!
[13:33] Teagan Linden: True!
[13:33] Youri Ashton: lemme give the other bears i made as well
[13:33] Flenser Juergens: is sa big fireplace. :)
[13:33] Youri Ashton: good start for your collection!
[13:34] Nathan Adored: is it dimensionally transendental? :D
[13:34] Flenser Juergens: Thank you.
[13:34] Teagan Linden: oh! I thought that was Jon, but it's Faux Jon! Hi Faux Jon! *waves*
[13:34] Youri Ashton: thats fake jon
[13:34] Youri Ashton: jeremy kept it too long there, it starts to go smelly here :p
[13:34] Youri Ashton has pinged you.
[13:34] Youri Ashton: haha
[13:34] Teagan Linden: /me puts down the fork and backs away
[13:34] Nathan Adored: /me gives everyone a strraaaannnnnnnnge look.
[13:35] Youri Ashton: lol
[13:35] Jeremy Linden: Nah, I made him out of thermoplastic. It's like when they use weird materials to imitate food for photographs.
[13:35] Youri Ashton: that fake jon is there for months :p
[13:35] Torley Linden: that always tripped me out, Jeremy
[13:35] Torley Linden has pinged you.
[13:35] Torley Linden: and all the tricks they do to make food look good on TV
[13:35] Youri Ashton: /me wonders what the smell then is *sniffs jeremy carefully* ....
[13:35] Youri Ashton has pinged you.
[13:35] Youri Ashton: lol
[13:35] Torley Linden: i remember hearing the story of someone who glued each sesame bun onto a hamburger to make it look perfect
[13:36] Jeremy Linden: Doh.
[13:36] Teagan Linden: weird!
[13:36] Youri Ashton: glued? omg
[13:36] Jeremy Linden: Waste for a perfectly good hamburger!
[13:36] Torley Linden: there are some rather revealing websites out there that shows what the advertised fast food looks like vs. what you really get
[13:36] Geerkil Ziskey: Elmers glue is edable
[13:36] Youri Ashton: indeed jeremy!
[13:36] Youri Ashton has pinged you.
[13:37] Jeremy Linden: That's good, Geerkil, because they use it to simulate milk in cereal pictures.
[13:37] Flenser Juergens: es, and of course everyone has heard of the marbles in the cans of soup - to make all the good stuff float on top when open.
[13:37] Teagan Linden: ew!
[13:37] Nathan Adored: in soup ads, you mean?
[13:38] Flenser Juergens: yep
[13:38] Jeremy Linden: Heh. Yeah, don't sell those in the U.S. unless it has a big "DO NOT EAT" warning on it.
[13:38] Nathan Adored: /me has never seen marbles in HIS soup cans.... oO
[13:38] Geerkil Ziskey: you do not eat the barbles, they are there so you did not see the liquit only when the can was opened on TV
[13:38] Geerkil Ziskey: how does this relate to SL?
[13:38] Rosen Janus: So that's what the blue dots are. >>
[13:39] Rosen Janus: Hope I'm not interupting anything.
[13:39] Nathan Adored: ROFL
[13:39] Flenser Juergens: No idea but it reminds me of some of the LL advertising.
[13:39] Nathan Adored: Topic drift on parade! (LOLLOLLOL)
[13:39] Geerkil Ziskey: LOL you kill me Flenser
[13:39] Detaching HUD & METER --[Rosen Janus]
[13:39] METER DETACHING -- [Rosen Janus]
[13:39] Jeremy Linden: Just office hours for the Documentation Team, Rosen.
[13:39] Youri Ashton: please do join us rosen!
[13:40] Youri Ashton: take a seat! be welcome!
[13:40] Rosen Janus: Um.. sure. D=
[13:40] Nathan Adored: /me wonders what the HUD does, sounds interesting.
[13:40] Flenser Juergens: Yes, your among friends. My evil alternate is hidden away.
[13:40] Rosen Janus: Sim I was in is restarting anyways
[13:40] Torley Linden: you've found refuge!
[13:40] Nathan Adored: /me giggles and chortles.
[13:40] Rosen Janus: It's a combat meter.
[13:40] Youri Ashton: :)
[13:40] Nathan Adored: ah
[13:41] Rosen Janus: :O Torley! -Big fan-
[13:41] Geerkil Ziskey: I am my evil Alt
[13:41] Torley Linden: =^_^= happy coincidence, eh Rosen?
[13:41] Nathan Adored: <--- not into combat stuff, tho he does love goofball weapons. (Couch bazooka anyway? :D :D :D )
[13:41] Nathan Adored: *anyone
[13:41] Rosen Janus: Yeah. Mainly heard you from your music.
[13:41] Rosen Janus: I have a car launcher. << @Nathan
[13:42] Rosen Janus: BEEPBEEP!
[13:42] Jeremy Linden: Heh.
[13:42] Youri Ashton: hungry teagan? ;)
[13:42] Jeremy Linden: Now we know who to ask if we ever need more seating or transportation.
[13:42] Nathan Adored: I think I might have a bus thrower somewhere in my inventory.
[13:42] Teagan Linden: yeah, but I have this sushi
[13:42] Teagan Linden: om nom nom
[13:42] Torley Linden: Rosen, you like Pendulum too? i was looking at your profile
[13:43] Torley Linden: OMG SUSHI
[13:43] Youri Ashton: hehe, hope it tastes good teagan!
[13:43] Teagan Linden: always!
[13:43] Torley Linden: i reached my quota for the month, i can technically only have it 2x/month
[13:43] Rosen Janus: Brb. Sending some VPU recover stuff to ATI. o.x Was using SL and YouTube and my graphics card went pfft
[13:43] Nathan Adored: eeek!
[13:43] Youri Ashton: i rather let fish swim instead of eating it :p
[13:43] Rosen Janus: Pendulum! :D
[13:43] Teagan Linden: You can have virtual sushi every day! and, 0 calories! also, free!
[13:44] Youri Ashton: lol, still, my stumach cant take it :p
[13:44] Torley Linden: Rosen, yeah, i totally recognized the lyrics... hahaha
[13:44] Jeremy Linden: I always find it hard to digest virtual food, even when I can get it into my avatar's stomach.
[13:44] Youri Ashton: each fish that goes in, will go out in no time as well :o
[13:44] Rosen Janus: Heard their latest stuff? From Immersion?
[13:45] Rosen Janus: They actually managed a pure rave-sounding song. o_O
[13:45] Torley Linden: yes like multiple times, Rosen... which one are you referring to, The Island?
[13:45] Rosen Janus: Yup. The Island Part I
[13:45] Rosen Janus: Part II I could care less for. >>
[13:45] Torley Linden: i like how Pendulum keep exploring and branching out, yet at the same time, have a very accessible sound. that's extraordinarily difficult to do
[13:45] Nathan Adored: is there a URL for this? :D
[13:45] Torley Linden: do all the squealy/electro noises in Part II bother you?
[13:46] Rosen Janus: Yes, very much. O:
[13:46] Torley Linden: Nathan, if you're referring to Pendulum,
[13:46] Torley Linden: haha i'm such a music geek
[13:46] Torley Linden: i didn't expect to like "Self vs. Self", but that's such an intense hybrid of DnB and melodic metal
[13:46] Rosen Janus: If you've played Motorstorm or Forza 3, you're probably heard them already.
[13:46] Nathan Adored: ah, ty
[13:47] Rosen Janus: Motorstorm's never gone a game without an obligatory Pendulum song
[13:47] Youri Ashton: Blondin just cancelled his OH I read on Twitter
[13:47] Jeremy Linden: Doh!
[13:47] Torley Linden: Second Life connection: someone once sent me an ad for their Second Life city, and i rezzed it, and it was a diorama of a metropolis blaring "Slam" i think, and that was wicked
[13:48] Torley Linden: haha, i even took a picture when i visited, it was this:
[13:48] Rosen Janus: Another good song.. "The Tempest" I think it was named.
[13:48] Rosen Janus: /me is also a HUGE Muse fan. >>
[13:49] Torley Linden: yeah, The Tempest is like castle-storming, very epic, i prefer it as a ending over Immersion's
[13:49] Torley Linden: OMG YOU LIKE MUSE TOO
[13:49] Rosen Janus: /obligator plug
[13:49] Torley Linden: haha figures you'd like my music as well
[13:49] Teagan Linden: very cool Torley!
[13:49] Rosen Janus: Muse fangirl. ._. -Waves white flag-
[13:49] Torley Linden: i was reading the other day how a mix engineer worked on Muse's tracks, that was intense detail
[13:49] Rosen Janus: From their new stuff to their old b-sides. I'm a Muse addict
[13:49] Torley Linden: i think "Knights of Cydonia" is still my fave, especially because of the video
[13:50] Rosen Janus: By music... I'd say Glorious or Exo-Politics. :D
[13:50] Flenser Juergens: I've heard of that one.
[13:50] Torley Linden: my wife once did a machinima with "Because I adore you" and the piano lines in that are fantastic
[13:50] Rosen Janus: It's extremely hard to pick a favorite.
[13:50] Nathan Adored: what did Blonden see in Twitter that caused the cancellatino fo todays' OH there?
[13:51] Flenser Juergens: Not sure.
[13:51] Youri Ashton: i am trying out modding the game Fall Out 3, it has the same engine as SL, looks different though. so far I understand how to change things, still trying to find out how to add things etc :p
[13:51] Flenser Juergens: Could it be related to SLB7.
[13:51] Rosen Janus: o.o Same engine?
[13:52] Rosen Janus: SL uses G.E.C.K.? >>
[13:52] Youri Ashton: havok engine
[13:52] Nathan Adored: Hovoc?
[13:52] Nathan Adored: ah
[13:52] Rosen Janus: Lol. Oh.
[13:52] Nathan Adored: which havoc engine?
[13:52] Youri Ashton: and no, SL doesnt use the Geck
[13:52] Torley Linden: SL is upgrading to Havok 7...
[13:52] Nathan Adored: What's Geck?
[13:52] Youri Ashton: you can upgrade Fall Out 3 as well :p
[13:52] Rosen Janus: My friend does modding for FO3. Apparently GECK is the FO3 engine.
[13:53] Jeremy Linden: Heh. I thought GECK was a plot device from the Fallout series.
[13:53] Youri Ashton: there are ways to improve that game big time as well
[13:53] Rosen Janus: I just use mods. -Has one awesome cardboard box mod- Mhm
[13:53] Youri Ashton: well yes jeremy
[13:53] Youri Ashton has pinged you.
[13:53] Rosen Janus: +10 to sneak. :D And I can make MGS jokes
[13:53] Youri Ashton: both a "water purify system" in the game as a map maker
[13:54] Youri Ashton:
[13:54] Jeremy Linden: Appropriate to name god/creation tools after the Garden of Eden Creation Kit.
[13:54] Torley Linden: Jeremy and i are excited about Deus Ex Human Revolution
[13:54] Torley Linden has pinged you.
[13:54] Jeremy Linden: Yes!
[13:54] Torley Linden: did you see the "leaked" gameplay footage, Jeremy?
[13:54] Torley Linden has pinged you.
[13:54] Rosen Janus: Dues Ex?
[13:54] Youri Ashton: i am as well torley!
[13:54] Jeremy Linden: No, it got taken down before I saw it, Torley.
[13:55] Youri Ashton: <3 Deus Ex
[13:55] Nathan Adored: The Garden of Eden Creation Kit, eh? That sounds interesting. Any snakes or apples there? (giggles)
[13:55] Jeremy Linden: DX: Human Revolution trailer
[13:55] Youri Ashton: you can add a lot to that world :p
[13:55] Jeremy Linden: :-D
[13:55] Torley Linden: gameplay
[13:55] Youri Ashton: you can just not build in world like you can in SL
[13:55] Youri Ashton: nor buildings etc can be in your inventory
[13:55] Torley Linden: Deus Ex was one of the sources that got me to find SL in the first place so i owe some sort of symbolic debt to it
[13:56] Torley Linden: i even downloaded the MP3 of the trailer music, Jeremy
[13:56] Torley Linden has pinged you.
[13:56] Torley Linden: they have a great thing going with the gold-and-black
[13:56] Youri Ashton: /me thinks it might be a great thing to merge SL and FO3 to get a even better game :D
[13:56] Jeremy Linden: Heh!
[13:56] Torley Linden: (interestingly enough, gold-and-black will also be prominent in Tron Legacy)
[13:56] Torley Linden: i've seen some fallout-inspired creations in SL, Youri
[13:57] Youri Ashton: yeah, i got a avi i made with FO3 in mind
[13:57] Youri Ashton: but i didnt mean that
[13:57] Nathan Adored: Fallout is the post-appocolypse, retro-future thing, right?
[13:57] Youri Ashton: i meant getting the total mix of both into 1 game
[13:57] Youri Ashton: the good things of both into 1 game might be a great thing
[13:58] Youri Ashton: doesnt have to be a post apocalypic style game though
[13:58] Nathan Adored: I've always thought of SL as being a big 3D chatroom with scenery and props.... and that sometimes people can have games inside ot.
[13:58] Nathan Adored: *of
[13:58] Rosen Janus: o_o Lol @ The Last Story. >> Last = final... story = fantasy. Add to that, it's by ex-FF creators, supposedly
[13:58] Youri Ashton: need to keep the freedom of SL

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