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I have updated the "To do list" :)
I have updated the "To do list" :)
[[User:Gally Young|Gally Young]] 02:04, 3 August 2008 (PDT)
[[User:Gally Young|Gally Young]] 02:04, 3 August 2008 (PDT)
: Oh hehe. Yuss, parts are in German ^_^ but it's all just weird drafts anyway and even [[User:Kuraiko Yoshikawa|Kuraiko]] (who's sandbox it is) had trouble understanding them although he's native in German. I compared the stuff i noted with the things you've done already and the things I suggested in the previouse comment so only things "missing" which are on my list: another help category for Wiki help (having [[Help:Contents]], [[Quickie Wiki Intro|QWI I]] & [[Quickie Wiki Intro Part II|QWI II]] as well as a link to the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Contents MediaWiki Help:Contents], to the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:ParserFunctions parser functions] and maybe Torley's new site about Wiki myths). I also had one tiny box in mind, placed on the portal with some text like "Help us to help you" where people are invited to contribute. To leave feedback on what they were missing on articles at related discussion pages, or to improve the articles content on their own and such. So many will believe this is a static or LL obtained Wiki and don't realize that they can help improving it.
:Sorting the [[Video Tutorials]] is kinda a challange. The [http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=Torley&p=r YouTube Channel] states it's currently 315 videos. Having them all on a seperate page might result in colliding article names so another name scheme might help. Like NAME_(VT). Could then have a video tutorial category with subcategories for different topics (and also link the tuts to the related help categories of course).
:Re:Glossary: yuss, most of the parts are really small... I'm not quite sure how to handle it well. Some of the others are small in the glossary but got seperate pages describing them (like [[Landmark]]s or [[Map]] - had them added to [[:Category:Glossary]] earlier). Then there is common online lingo mixed in which could be filtered and linked to a relating wiktionary article instead. Like: "If you're looking for internet lingo, please browse [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Internet_slang here]." I'll poke my head on some more ideas, how to address this problem... Need to run now since I'm already late (^_^)°
:Keep up the great work, it's so exhilarant to watch it grow!
:Cyas, [[Image:Zai_signature.png|45px]] '''[[User:Zai Lynch|Lynch]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]])</small></sup> 06:02, 3 August 2008 (PDT)


== TO DO LIST ==
== TO DO LIST ==

Revision as of 06:02, 3 August 2008

Whew...

Neato o.O I had the same in mind after Jason Maynard stopped the work on his portal. So I just made some notes four days ago (ping) but looks like you were faster ^^. Great work!
Greetz, Zai signature.png Lynch (talk|contribs) 21:39, 2 August 2008 (PDT)

P.S.: Two other things I had in mind which could improve such a Portal:
Last thing would be, to finally move all Second Life related help articles out of the Help: namespace (which is filtered from the Wiki search by default), reserving the Help: namespace just for Wiki related help.
Greetz, Zai signature.png Lynch (talk|contribs) 21:59, 2 August 2008 (PDT)


Thanks Zai ;)
I read your note (but my german is far behind me (some points weren't clear for me), I will try again later ^^ )
thanks for you very good ideas, I put them on the "To do list". I'm also searching a better way to find video tutorials. To organise the portal, I have created/used the following categories :

I have updated the "To do list" :) Gally Young 02:04, 3 August 2008 (PDT)

Oh hehe. Yuss, parts are in German ^_^ but it's all just weird drafts anyway and even Kuraiko (who's sandbox it is) had trouble understanding them although he's native in German. I compared the stuff i noted with the things you've done already and the things I suggested in the previouse comment so only things "missing" which are on my list: another help category for Wiki help (having Help:Contents, QWI I & QWI II as well as a link to the MediaWiki Help:Contents, to the parser functions and maybe Torley's new site about Wiki myths). I also had one tiny box in mind, placed on the portal with some text like "Help us to help you" where people are invited to contribute. To leave feedback on what they were missing on articles at related discussion pages, or to improve the articles content on their own and such. So many will believe this is a static or LL obtained Wiki and don't realize that they can help improving it.
Sorting the Video Tutorials is kinda a challange. The YouTube Channel states it's currently 315 videos. Having them all on a seperate page might result in colliding article names so another name scheme might help. Like NAME_(VT). Could then have a video tutorial category with subcategories for different topics (and also link the tuts to the related help categories of course).
Re:Glossary: yuss, most of the parts are really small... I'm not quite sure how to handle it well. Some of the others are small in the glossary but got seperate pages describing them (like Landmarks or Map - had them added to Category:Glossary earlier). Then there is common online lingo mixed in which could be filtered and linked to a relating wiktionary article instead. Like: "If you're looking for internet lingo, please browse here." I'll poke my head on some more ideas, how to address this problem... Need to run now since I'm already late (^_^)°
Keep up the great work, it's so exhilarant to watch it grow!
Cyas, Zai signature.png Lynch (talk|contribs) 06:02, 3 August 2008 (PDT)

TO DO LIST

[Done template:Help Header created]
  • Create help template to organise help pages (similar to Template:Visl)
[Done template:Help created (but can probably be better)]
  • Change some pages into categories :
  • Add video links to Torley's video turorials in each help category or create specific page for each video ??
I think create 1 page for each video tutorials is the better way. With this solution, pages can be found with categories (1st test : https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Zoom_in_and_out)
  • Convert "help:" pages into regular pages (will be done when template:Help will be stabilized)

Gally Young 05:08, 3 August 2008 (PDT)