Adult Content User Group/11/14/2011
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- Ann Otoole (ann.otoole)
- Black (black)
- Counter Landfall (counter.landfall)
- Forceme Silverspar (forceme.silverspar)
- Gerritt (gerritt)
- Huntress Catteneo (huntress.catteneo)
- Ilana Debevec (ilana.debevec)
- Innula Zenovka (innula.zenovka)
- Lil friend (lil.friend)
- Qie (qie)
- Sassy (sassy)
- Serjourn Daxter (serjourn.daxter)
- Slaton Linden (slaton.linden)
- Viale Linden (viale.linden)
Transcript for Monday November 14, 2011
[10:00] | Viale Linden | Hi Serjourn - lets wait a couple of minutes |
[10:02] | Forceme Silverspar | Wanna sit on me lap Sassy? |
[10:02] | Viale Linden | Ok. I am excited to have Serjourn Daxter here representing the Freedom Continent |
[10:02] | Sassy | O.o... I was going to proposition Viale first ;) |
[10:02] | Forceme Silverspar | Mhaha! |
[10:03] | Viale Linden | She is going to share some good news and then we will go into Q&A - more to come on the Q&A |
[10:03] | Viale Linden | Serjorun - you have the floor |
[10:03] | Sassy | (right click take) |
[10:03] | Serjourn Daxter | This weekend I was approached by Counter Landfall, a member of the Zindra Alliance |
[10:03] | Serjourn Daxter | We talked and looked into possible cooperation models. It became clear that the use of the Zindra name was a sore point for the alliance. I was also given an insight into the reasons. In the interest of buillding unity in the adult communities, I brought this issue up in my management team meeting Saturday. After some discussions, we passed a 16 to nill vote on to go ahead and profile what we are (an adult hub) rather than to use the Zindra name, that we understand has a value for the Zindra continent, but is of little consequence for us as a hub. |
[10:04] | Serjourn Daxter | As a first result of the new cooperation, the Zindra yellowpages have now been placed in 4 locations in the central HUB sim, and will over the comming weeks be placed also in the 4 surrounding sims. |
[10:05] | Viale Linden | Great news |
[10:05] | Serjourn Daxter | I have today had my land owner, Angelic Estates, request a name change for the sims. That was the introduction, now on to Q&A |
[10:05] | Viale Linden | Ok |
[10:06] | Counter Landfall | very good, it has already served up directory info ;-) |
[10:06] | Viale Linden | for the Q&A session. Please IM Slaton Linden your question. We will try to answer as many questions as possible |
[10:07] | Slaton Linden | Questions anyone? |
[10:07] | Slaton Linden | IM me if you have one ;) |
[10:07] | Huntress Catteneo | sorry late, about particular thing? |
[10:08] | Serjourn Daxter | For your info - it seems like the name change is already happening |
[10:09] | Lil friend | Will I need to update my links in my blog post for the hubs? |
[10:09] | Serjourn Daxter | Recap for the late arrivers |
[10:09] | Serjourn Daxter | This weekend I was approached by Counter Landfall, a member of the Zindra Alliance |
[10:09] | Serjourn Daxter | Yes, landmarks will most likely need updating |
[10:09] | Lil friend | Right , Thank you Ma'am. |
[10:11] | Viale Linden | Does anyone have questions? Please Im Slaton |
[10:11] | Huntress Catteneo | thanks for update |
[10:12] | Huntress Catteneo | I shall try VERY hard to stay awake today |
[10:13] | Serjourn Daxter | OK, if there are no questions, I need to return home and kill some sim watchers that keep telling me that the Zindra Hub sims have now entered status "Unknown" |
[10:13] | Huntress Catteneo | narcolepsy really bad atm though :( |
[10:13] | Black | I had a question .. |
[10:13] | Serjourn Daxter | Ok |
[10:13] | Black | Just sent it to slaton but, not sure if he's responding? |
[10:13] | Slaton Linden | from Huntress: what is to be in the HUBs and how do others get involved? |
[10:13] | Counter Landfall | ok, thanks Serjourn ;-) |
[10:14] | Serjourn Daxter | The HUBS will be gateways to SL |
[10:14] | Serjourn Daxter | ADULT SL |
[10:14] | Sassy | sent to Slaton, who is clearly afk and down at Starbucks |
[10:14] | Serjourn Daxter | All adult sims are welcome to profile there. |
[10:14] | Serjourn Daxter | I rent the sims on commercial terms from Angelic Estates. |
[10:14] | Serjourn Daxter | I charge for ad space and shop space |
[10:15] | Huntress Catteneo | some sort of application? |
[10:15] | Serjourn Daxter | My charging is based on covering tiers with 80% occupancy |
[10:15] | Serjourn Daxter | Just come there, if you see free space - pay and use it |
[10:15] | Serjourn Daxter | We also have infocenter staff |
[10:15] | Serjourn Daxter | You can have your own staff part of manning these centers, just contact me. |
[10:16] | Serjourn Daxter | I pay my staff (a token 25 L$ per hour), you deploy staff on your terms. |
[10:16] | Sassy | cool, I know where to send people then when they ask about certain genre's lol |
[10:16] | Serjourn Daxter | We will insist on supplyiong some basic training |
[10:17] | Serjourn Daxter | Free of charge |
[10:17] | Slaton Linden | from counter: When is the official opening - any opening ceremony - profiling in blog? |
[10:17] | Serjourn Daxter | Okay |
[10:17] | Serjourn Daxter | We are now operating - like a cruise ship sailing its maiden voyage with half the builders still on board |
[10:18] | Serjourn Daxter | We will use the next two weeks to get "the ship in shape" and the staff tuned |
[10:18] | Serjourn Daxter | The BIG LAUNCH is Saturday December 3rd |
[10:19] | Serjourn Daxter | All sims are operational now |
[10:19] | Serjourn Daxter | If you want to contribute, I have a management team, I can not handle all myself |
[10:20] | Serjourn Daxter | There are great possibilities for profiling in the sims |
[10:20] | Slaton Linden | from Gerritt: question--do these hubs function like Info hubs--that people will get dropped there if their region and home are offline? |
[10:20] | Serjourn Daxter | That is up to LL to answer |
[10:20] | Serjourn Daxter | We will supply info when people get there |
[10:21] | Counter Landfall | follow up to that, are teh allowed to set home there? |
[10:21] | Counter Landfall | they* |
[10:21] | Lil friend | Oh good questions |
[10:21] | Serjourn Daxter | Yes, we will allow all to set home |
[10:21] | Counter Landfall | cause that was a massive problem in the Bay City infohubs |
[10:21] | Counter Landfall | new users who set home there and virtually choked the sims |
[10:22] | Counter Landfall | they stayed for hours |
[10:22] | Serjourn Daxter | We will see how that is handled then |
[10:22] | Serjourn Daxter | We have 3 people watching sim performance |
[10:22] | Serjourn Daxter | And we balance things |
[10:22] | Counter Landfall | one thing is sim performance, but worse for new users is geting a sim full message when they want to go there |
[10:23] | Serjourn Daxter | We have struggled to get a good blog editor onboard, if anyone wants to participate, please IM Forceme Silverspar |
[10:23] | Serjourn Daxter | Well, the set home is NOT on in the central sim, but in the 4 surrounding sims |
[10:24] | Counter Landfall | that is a good start |
[10:24] | Viale Linden | The New locations with new names will be added to the Destination Guide soon |
[10:25] | Serjourn Daxter | Hi, it's a bit of a statement at this point but I did a bit of "secret shopping" at the weekend and with an alt asked someone with a helper tag who was representing the hub if they could provide me with resources for my area of interest that was stated. I was given a free object which is a competing product. A landmark to a competitor and then as an afterthought he "mentioned" my store. As a renter at the adult hub, it's important that information is complete and unbiased and certainly should in my mind favour those who are financially supporting it! |
[10:26] | Serjourn Daxter | I agree on that, these are issues we will see initially |
[10:26] | Serjourn Daxter | That is why we say a 2 week ramp-up |
[10:27] | Serjourn Daxter | We have now two methods of giving away freebies: A rentable space down by the water and a "superbox" up at the top of the pyramid |
[10:27] | Black | Actually, I have another option. |
[10:27] | Serjourn Daxter | OK |
[10:27] | Black | if you're interested that is? |
[10:27] | Viale Linden | We will wrap up Q&A at 10:40am |
[10:27] | Serjourn Daxter | from huntress: Are the staff there to look after sims and rentals, or are they there mainly to meet, greet and help newbies? |
[10:27] | Viale Linden | However, the forums last all day... |
[10:28] | Serjourn Daxter | We have two types of staff: The "Greeters" and sim staff with land powers to deal with any issues. Their tag will tell what they are. |
[10:28] | Serjourn Daxter | Black, yes, I am interested |
[10:29] | Black | Last week I brought up the idea of a fully networked midnight mania style board that allows you to teleport directly from one location to the other. There are statistics and because it's a game board, they wont just collect the freebies and run, they have to win them. If interseted, it is something I would like to use to network your entire area. |
[10:29] | Viale Linden | Black - Q's to slaton |
[10:29] | Black | Sorry, I sent that to him but I was not to bring it up however, it does relate. |
[10:29] | Serjourn Daxter | Can you present that for my management team next Satiurday please, this is something I want to discuss with them |
[10:30] | Black | Sure will, thanks. |
[10:31] | Serjourn Daxter | The following people are key people in the sims: Naaman McMahon, Ravena DeCuir, Sidius Core, Nihal Quan, Isabelle Kostolany, Sin Ushimawa, Wendi Zenovka |
[10:31] | Serjourn Daxter | Together we cover all timezones |
[10:31] | Serjourn Daxter | These people have full estate powers in all sims |
[10:32] | Serjourn Daxter | We have mentors working in the sims, as well as regular staff. |
[10:32] | Viale Linden | Nice |
[10:33] | Serjourn Daxter | When I came to SL, I nearly left. |
[10:33] | Lil friend | Me too. |
[10:33] | Serjourn Daxter | I was bored the day after, so I came back |
[10:33] | Serjourn Daxter | The second day I met friendly people |
[10:33] | Serjourn Daxter | So I stayed |
[10:33] | Serjourn Daxter | That is key to what we do |
[10:34] | Serjourn Daxter | Residents need to feel welcome, to learn basic skills, and to get to areas that interest them. That is why the hub is there |
[10:34] | Serjourn Daxter | We teach them to cope, then to have fun |
[10:34] | Viale Linden | Ok - 5 more minutes |
[10:35] | Serjourn Daxter | But if they are met with a "whatthefuckareyoudoingherebloodyn00b" - they will not stay |
[10:35] | Lil friend | Lil friend facepaws >.<
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[10:35] | Ann Otoole | the ahern effect |
[10:35] | Lil friend | Lil friend gigglesfits
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[10:36] | Serjourn Daxter | I did NOT mention Ahern, but yes - part of my research was to create a n00b alt and see what happened |
[10:36] | Serjourn Daxter | It was a VERY educating effect |
[10:36] | Serjourn Daxter | I encourage you to do likewise |
[10:36] | Huntress Catteneo | been there done that lol |
[10:36] | Ilana Debevec | did the alt survive unscathed? well minor scathing? |
[10:37] | Serjourn Daxter | And my N00b would - had she been a real noob - have left SL for good within 35 minutes |
[10:37] | Gerritt | no psychological after-care |
[10:37] | Huntress Catteneo | I was asking people at some rl events to come into sl a while back |
[10:37] | Serjourn Daxter | Yes? |
[10:37] | Huntress Catteneo | so tested what their journey would be first |
[10:38] | Serjourn Daxter | Yes??? |
[10:38] | Serjourn Daxter | [2011/11/14 10:38] Slaton Linden: from Black: any plans for teaching basic - advanced skills building / sculpting and mesh fundamentals |
[10:38] | Huntress Catteneo | things have improved since that time |
[10:38] | Forceme Silverspar | If I may? |
[10:38] | Serjourn Daxter | We will, and we have set aside an area that is at the moment NOT open as a sandbox but that can be opened |
[10:39] | Serjourn Daxter | Yes, Forceme? |
[10:39] | Forceme Silverspar | Not to worry. |
[10:39] | Serjourn Daxter | And we have a hidden area below the welcome center - reserved to be a showcase for SL adult art |
[10:40] | Innula Zenovka | i was wondering what that was for |
[10:40] | Serjourn Daxter | We will launch - then launch this, but we do need a curator |
[10:41] | Serjourn Daxter | So anyone know a good curator, contact me or Forceme Silverspar |
[10:41] | Huntress Catteneo | there are a few around |
[10:41] | Slaton Linden | any other questions? |
[10:42] | Huntress Catteneo | with so many art sims closing this year |
[10:42] | Viale Linden | Thanks |
[10:42] | Serjourn Daxter | Any furthjer questions, feel free to IM me or my staff, please allow for a little response time as I do have a few IM's these days |
[10:42] | Ilana Debevec | a few? (gring) |
[10:42] | Ilana Debevec | (grins even) |
[10:43] | Viale Linden | Thank you Serjourn |
[10:43] | Qie | Thanks, Serjourn, and hope the project is a great success. |
[10:43] | Viale Linden | Thanks for spending time with the group today |
[10:43] | Serjourn Daxter | I have 0 people on my mute list (a principle of mine), and I never ignore any IM's, but my IM's do get capped |
[10:43] | Innula Zenovka | Thanks Serjourn |
[10:43] | Serjourn Daxter | Yw |
[10:43] | Counter Landfall | Thanks Serjourn |
[10:43] | Viale Linden | This is a Resident led program |
[10:43] | Serjourn Daxter | Now let us see if it is possible to teleport to the renamed sims |
[10:43] | Viale Linden | Entries will be found in the DG |
[10:44] | Viale Linden | When these are open, I recommend a visit |
[10:46] | Viale Linden | I will place a link to the transcript on the forums |
[10:46] | Innula Zenovka | thanks, Viale |
[10:46] | Viale Linden | For everyone that could not attend |
[10:46] | Huntress Catteneo | so that is only sbject today? |
[10:47] | Viale Linden | Yes, sorry no other agenda items |
[10:47] | Viale Linden | I hope that was helpful |
[10:47] | Huntress Catteneo | ok :( status quo again |
[10:48] | Innula Zenovka | how do you mean, Huntress? |
[10:48] | Viale Linden | Sorry Huntress, if you have an agenda item for next time, please email community@lindenlab.com |
[10:49] | Huntress Catteneo | yes and then it is not on agenda |
[10:49] | Viale Linden | I am sorry - not sure what you mean? |
[10:49] | Huntress Catteneo | everyone gets - lets have smaller meeting on that etc |
[10:49] | Huntress Catteneo | with Vortex |
[10:50] | Viale Linden | Vortex - shoot |
[10:50] | Serjourn Daxter | Okay |
[10:50] | Viale Linden | we can possibly answer |
[10:50] | Huntress Catteneo | atm we can't even list events there |
[10:50] | Viale Linden | Still? |
[10:51] | Huntress Catteneo | when changed? |
[10:51] | Viale Linden | Wondering if you might want to list on the forums as the sandbox is probably not the best place to get viewers |
[10:51] | Huntress Catteneo | not sure what you mean? |
[10:52] | Viale Linden | I will follow up on that ticket, but generally the here are the official ways to support yoru events |
[10:53] | Huntress Catteneo | it is issue of location |
[10:53] | Viale Linden | http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Resources_Portal |
[10:53] | Huntress Catteneo | cannot choose that location |
[10:54] | Huntress Catteneo | it is an ability |
[10:54] | Viale Linden | Thanks everyone for attending today. I think this moves us forward |
[10:54] | Innula Zenovka | are you saying, Huntress, that if you want to list, in Events, something happening at the Vortex, it won't let you? |
[10:54] | Viale Linden | Destination Guide, Forums, Emails and welcoming areas for adult content |
[10:55] | Huntress Catteneo | yes Innula |
[10:55] | Huntress Catteneo | can't choose that as a location |
[10:55] | Qie | Viale, this was very good. But Huntress has a point about not being able to list community events for a venue that's owned by that group, unless roles are defined that allow it... so it would be good to discuss that offline, maybe. |
[10:55] | Huntress Catteneo | so can't put build classes etc in events |
[10:56] | Huntress Catteneo | need 'host events' ability |
[10:56] | Viale Linden | I will follow up on the ticket |
[10:57] | Huntress Catteneo | Slaton should be able to do |
[10:57] | Viale Linden | We are not land managers |
[10:57] | Viale Linden | we need to go through support |
[10:57] | Innula Zenovka | i think a group owner has to give the ability, don't they? |
[10:57] | Huntress Catteneo | just need to be high enough in group |
[10:58] | Viale Linden | We will follow up with support |
[10:58] | Qie | right. I think it's a problem with the organization of the group at this point. |