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[13:01] Youri Ashton: hey jeremy :)
[13:01] Youri Ashton has pinged you.
[13:01] Jeremy Linden: Hello, everyone.
[13:01] Youri Ashton: only 3 here besides you :p
[13:01] Arawn Spitteler: Hi, Jeremy
[13:01] Arawn Spitteler has pinged you.
[13:01] Arawn Spitteler: Anyone know, how I can check my hardware date?
[13:01] Jeremy Linden: Hardware date?
[13:01] Youri Ashton: hmm.. lemme get something for you
[13:02] Arawn Spitteler: I know the birthdate, for the curent incarnation of Jesus, in 2004, and I was wondering if my computer really is that old.
[13:02] Adamburp Adamczyk: hi jeremy
[13:02] Adamburp Adamczyk has pinged you. (Adamczyk Adamburp HAS tensions you.)
[13:02] Youri Ashton: okay
[13:02] Arawn Spitteler: She'll be seven in February
[13:02] Youri Ashton: go here
[13:03] Youri Ashton: download everest
[13:03] Youri Ashton: it will show EVERYTHING of your hardware stuff
[13:03] Youri Ashton: its free as well
[13:03] Youri Ashton: also shows windows version
[13:03] Youri Ashton: and some other data
[13:03] Jeremy Linden: Hm. Interesting: Built-in Google Translate thinks "pinged" is not English.
[13:04] Youri Ashton: sure looks english to me :p
[13:04] Jeremy Linden: Heh. I've got a name pinger... Here's what it said just a second ago.
[13:04] Jeremy Linden: [13:02] WidgetHUD v1.2 (Mono): Adamburp Adamczyk has pinged you. (Adamczyk Adamburp HAS tensions you.)
[13:04] Jeremy Linden: The parentheses are the "translated" text :-P
[13:04] Youri Ashton: lol
[13:05] Youri Ashton: so whats new jeremy? i havnt been on for several months now
[13:05] Youri Ashton has pinged you.
[13:05] Arawn Spitteler: We can now change our names, but only once a week
[13:05] Jeremy Linden: Oh, quite a bit, Youri. Are you up to speed on Mesh, Display Names, the TSL move, etc?
[13:05] Youri Ashton: changing names? omg
[13:06] Youri Ashton: not so much
[13:06] Youri Ashton: last time i was on was around min summer
[13:06] Arawn Spitteler: It would be nice, could we toggle that feature on and off, so we don't have to wait a week.
[13:06] Jeremy Linden: I think that would defeat the purpose of the delay, Arawn.
[13:06] Adamburp Adamczyk: i'mstill with the no to viewer 2 camp
[13:07] Youri Ashton: i havnt updated my viewer for some time, so wouldnt know much atm :p
[13:07] Youri Ashton: thanks tot he failing ATI drivers I couldnt connect, but I did a lot of other work in the meanwhile
[13:07] Youri Ashton: Fallout 3 and Fallout:New vegas modding
[13:08] Jeremy Linden: Cool! I played a bit of Fallout 3.
[13:08] Youri Ashton: working ona huge bunker for new vegas still infact (Working one huge bunker for new vegas still infact)
[13:08] Arawn Spitteler: /me wonders if he should learn to hack viewers, for those with Extreme Graphics Chipsets
[13:08] Youri Ashton: hmm.. lemme get some links up for you guys
[13:08] Youri Ashton: if your okay with it jeremy :p
[13:08] Youri Ashton has pinged you.
[13:09] Jeremy Linden: Sure, Youri.
[13:09] Jeremy Linden: Arawn, if you want extreme graphics, it's possible to turn on deferred rendering and shadows in the main Viewer now.
[13:09] Jeremy Linden: With everything turned on, it's too extreme for my graphics card :-)
[13:10] Youri Ashton: aight, got the link of my profile there. Just scroll down and you will see the Fall out 3 mods i made:
[13:10] Youri Ashton: now for new vegas...
[13:10] Youri Ashton:
[13:10] Arawn Spitteler: Extreme Graphics is what the chipset is called, a joke that Andrew had to accomodate
[13:11] Jeremy Linden: Ah, yes, that chipset...
[13:11] Jeremy Linden: Extreme on the other end of the scale.
[13:11] Arawn Spitteler: Anyhow, on Display Names, I got tired of being Torley Tester all the time, but couldn't turn the feature back on, after turning off.
[13:11] Jeremy Linden: Yikes!
[13:12] Jeremy Linden: Did you at least take some videos?
[13:12] Youri Ashton: did you mean me jeremy?
[13:12] Youri Ashton has pinged you.
[13:12] Arawn Spitteler: My Extreme Graphics Chipsets doesn't accommodate Machinima
[13:12] Jeremy Linden: Heh. I was referring to Arawn being Torley Tester
[13:12] Youri Ashton: :)
[13:13] Arawn Spitteler: Next, I'm wondering if I should be Philip Tester, or Phillip Lindan
[13:13] Youri Ashton: haha
[13:13] Youri Ashton: think not permitted though
[13:13] Jeremy Linden: That might not actually work. I hear there's a restriction on many possible permutations of "Linden"
[13:13] Youri Ashton: its against the ToS anyways
[13:13] Jeremy Linden: Although I did once see the work of a griefer named 'Philip Lindman'
[13:14] Youri Ashton: it's basically saying "hey i ama linden" which is not allowed
[13:14] Jeremy Linden: True, Youri
[13:14] Arawn Spitteler: Tester might be a permutation overlooked
[13:14] Youri Ashton: same if you will be taking Torley Tester, in fact that is as well counting as a linden name... in a way
[13:15] Jeremy Linden: Maybe. "Tester" doesn't sound like "Linden" at all...
[13:15] Youri Ashton: true, i was rather reffering to the fact that he is using that very name as well
[13:15] Youri Ashton: one of his alts...
[13:15] Adamburp Adamczyk: i jsut checked
[13:15] Arawn Spitteler: Every Tester is a Linden Alt, so becomes a Linden Impersonation
[13:16] Adamburp Adamczyk: i wish "tester" was a surname to go with "toilet"
[13:16] Adamburp Adamczyk: aka "toilet tester"
[13:16] Youri Ashton: lol
[13:16] Arawn Spitteler: You can still do it with Viewer 2, but hurry
[13:16] Youri Ashton: i am on viewer 2
[13:16] Adamburp Adamczyk: i'll never use it
[13:16] Adamburp Adamczyk: if it ever was compulsory, i;d use a tpv
[13:16] Jeremy Linden: Waiting for Viewer 3, Adamburp?
[13:17] Arawn Spitteler: Once word gets about, you'll have to use LaTrine Testor
[13:17] Adamburp Adamczyk: jeremy, all i've heard is bad stuff about viewer 2
[13:17] Adamburp Adamczyk has pinged you.
[13:17] Adamburp Adamczyk: i've not heard a good word yet
[13:17] Jeremy Linden: I use and enjoy Viewer 2, personally.
[13:17] Jeremy Linden: There you go!
[13:17] Arawn Spitteler: It's not all bad, but I don't know how it's to be an improvement over Snowglobe
[13:18] Adamburp Adamczyk: ah you HAVE To say that ;)
[13:18] Youri Ashton: think ill keep my name
[13:18] Youri Ashton: chatlagggggg
[13:19] Jeremy Linden: Nah, I don't have to, Adam. I actually hated the earliest versions of Viewer 2, but it has been improving steadily and I've become accustomed to it.
[13:19] Jeremy Linden: I think mostly people dislike it because it's different, and they need to re-learn where a lot of their controls are.
[13:20] Adamburp Adamczyk: i just refuse point blank - I've ne'er heard anything otherwise to convince me
[13:20] Arawn Spitteler: That minds me, are we free to actually enter OI2, yet? Last I saw, we could see, but not enter
[13:21] Jeremy Linden: /me is not familiar with OI2
[13:21] Youri Ashton: im not even sure what he's tlaking about :p
[13:21] Arawn Spitteler: The second edition of Orientation Island.
[13:21] Youri Ashton: oh that
[13:21] Jeremy Linden: Heh. I think the second version of OI was de-commissioned years ago.
[13:21] Arawn Spitteler: Out west of Bay City, we could see in, but not touch
[13:21] Youri Ashton: havnt been ther eto my knowlage
[13:21] Arawn Spitteler: Check your map.
[13:22] Youri Ashton: yeah, that was scrapped
[13:22] Youri Ashton: its still online, but not worked on since philip left
[13:22] Youri Ashton: now he's back... well.. it might be that there will be a new version of it
[13:22] Youri Ashton: liisa!!!!!!!!
[13:22] Youri Ashton: sweet german wiki princess girly!!!!
[13:23] Youri Ashton: how are you liisa?
[13:24] Liisa Runo: im good, sorry im late, what we are talking about?
[13:24] Adamburp Adamczyk: toilets
[13:24] Youri Ashton: all kinds of things :)
[13:24] Arawn Spitteler: Display Toilet Name Testers
[13:24] Youri Ashton: name changes and orientation islands came up earlier
[13:24] Jeremy Linden: Heh. Just chatting about new features, Viewer 2, and strange Display Names.
[13:25] Jeremy Linden: We are supposed to talk about wiki and online help issues, though. Those get priority.
[13:25] Adamburp Adamczyk: oooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[13:25] Adamburp Adamczyk: THE ONTYNES ARE GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[13:25] Liisa Runo: i still have not studied the new wiki. Some day ill learn to use it
[13:25] Adamburp Adamczyk: i knew i had somethign to share
[13:25] Liisa Runo: ontynes are gone! wow
[13:26] Adamburp Adamczyk: hallelujah
[13:26] Arawn Spitteler: What are Ontynes?
[13:26] Adamburp Adamczyk: good riddance to bad rubbish
[13:26] Youri Ashton: havnt done anything with SL for a few months... so i rather am a newby atm :p
[13:26] Adamburp Adamczyk: they were the 3rd party helpers for support
[13:26] Jeremy Linden: Ontynes were a third-party Support company that handled a lot of "front line" support issues.
[13:26] Adamburp Adamczyk: they were useless
[13:27] Liisa Runo: ontynes are the people we had in support for a while, they knew nothing, usually they just asked you to make new support ticket and hope some linden recieve it
[13:27] Adamburp Adamczyk: and i'm sorry to say i live in rl one hour from them!
[13:27] Jeremy Linden: /me expresses absolutely no opinion about the Ontynes.
[13:27] Adamburp Adamczyk: they ahd no knowledge, twice i caught them lying to me
[13:27] Arawn Spitteler: They hadn't hired residents, to help with user issues?
[13:27] Youri Ashton: unfortunately its the harsh truth that many will skip off when hearing that Liisa
[13:28] Adamburp Adamczyk: i raised complaints about 2 of them - that angered me, first time i EVER complained in sl
[13:28] Youri Ashton: not many are found of the "send a suport ticket" thing
[13:28] Adamburp Adamczyk: but, they are gone
[13:29] Adamburp Adamczyk: i had a livechat with one of the ciscosystems guys, they seem pretty good
[13:29] Youri Ashton: no, 8 out 10 people getting that answer will simply not do it and leave it as it is or keep complaining
[13:29] Adamburp Adamczyk: the name "ontyne" comes from a uk city "newcastle upon tyne"
[13:30] Jeremy Linden: Yep.
[13:30] Youri Ashton: only people that are sirious enough will actually send that spoort ticket
[13:30] Youri Ashton: ugh, typos
[13:30] Arawn Spitteler: /me wonders how many griefers will think to assemble behind the name: Newcastleup Ontyne
[13:30] Youri Ashton: lol
[13:30] Jeremy Linden: Hah!
[13:31] Youri Ashton: well, most griefers are in fact US residents, not from europe
[13:32] Arawn Spitteler: Our civil servants have to do something in their spare time
[13:32] Youri Ashton: lol @ pic :p
[13:32] Youri Ashton: "warranty void with second life viewer 2"
[13:33] Arawn Spitteler: Bowels Voided, with Viewer 2
[13:33] Adamburp Adamczyk: jeremy, how's kate doing if you know?
[13:33] Adamburp Adamczyk has pinged you.
[13:33] Youri Ashton: good Q
[13:33] Adamburp Adamczyk: a lot of us miss her
[13:33] Youri Ashton: my mouse is a Logitech G5
[13:34] Jeremy Linden: Hm. Last time I sporke to Kate was at SLCC. She seemed to be doing well at the time.
[13:34] Arawn Spitteler: Is she down with something?
[13:34] Jeremy Linden: er, spoke
[13:34] Adamburp Adamczyk: cheers
[13:34] Arawn Spitteler: She's joined the ranks of the former lindens?
[13:35] Youri Ashton: hope she found a great new place to work, she deserves a good place
[13:35] Jeremy Linden: Yes, we lost Kate several months ago :-(
[13:35] Youri Ashton: i know, i was there when she said she would be going
[13:35] Arawn Spitteler: I'vebeen too long in Mafiaville Wars
[13:35] Jeremy Linden: Mafiaville? Is that the one where you grow thugs on a farm?
[13:36] Youri Ashton: its another lame website based game
[13:36] Youri Ashton: pretty pointless
[13:36] Arawn Spitteler: Mafia Wars- Farmville - Vampire Wars, all start running togeather.
[13:36] Youri Ashton: they love to gain your money, but hardly give anything usefull in return, besides the many griefers
[13:37] Jeremy Linden: They clog the iPhone app store :-(
[13:37] Arawn Spitteler: The adventure is in discovering that your sense that it's a total waste of time was completely accurate
[13:37] Adamburp Adamczyk: yoiu know, i spend hours on sl, yet i don't online game et al
[13:37] Youri Ashton: adam... in a way this is a online game as well :p
[13:37] Adamburp Adamczyk: not hte sense i was referrign too :)
[13:37] Liisa Runo: no no, this is virtual world, has games in it, but is not a game
[13:37] Adamburp Adamczyk: sl is more than just a game
[13:38] Youri Ashton: hey laurent :)
[13:38] Adamburp Adamczyk: far more
[13:38] Youri Ashton: YAY!! SIM LAG!!
[13:38] Adamburp Adamczyk: hi laurent
[13:38] Youri Ashton: ugh, lag problem agian
[13:38] Laurent Bechir: hello
[13:38] Adamburp Adamczyk: better than watching reality tv
[13:38] Arawn Spitteler: Gamesters come into SL, with no idea of how to get a high score
[13:38] Liisa Runo: SL is the future of the internet, some day virtual world will be the only form of internet we have, and later it will be the only operating system computers have.
[13:38] Arawn Spitteler: We should bring back TP Trail, to orient those.
[13:39] Jeremy Linden: When I was a more active Resident, my high score was my L$ balance. I really enjoyed building and scripting, though.
[13:39] Youri Ashton: I pretty much dont care about scores
[13:39] Youri Ashton: hi julio
[13:39] Adamburp Adamczyk: *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*Noobie!!!!*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*
[13:39] Jeremy Linden: Well, it's more fun when you can spend your high score to buy a new computer.
[13:39] Adamburp Adamczyk: true
[13:40] Youri Ashton: true heremy
[13:40] Youri Ashton: ugh... lol
[13:40] Youri Ashton: keep having typos here... haha
[13:40] Jeremy Linden: Hello Julio. Welcome to Documentation Office Hours.
[13:40] Liisa Runo: my high score is the satisfaction of creating stuff, and enjoying creations of others
[13:41] Youri Ashton: I recently got myself a version of Duke 3D for Vista and win7, just awesome! :p
[13:41] Arawn Spitteler: /me wants to hit the Powerball, and build a school of Witchcraft and Wizardry, Meatside.
[13:41] Youri Ashton: only the sound is kinda a problem in it, reast works perfectly
[13:41] Jeremy Linden: I would totally attend a wizardry school.
[13:42] Jeremy Linden: I suspect I don't have "the talent" for it, though.
[13:42] Jeremy Linden: Else I bet I'd have shorted out my computer ages ago.
[13:42] Arawn Spitteler: It'd be a fairly revolutionary environment, where adolescents would care for their elderly relations.
[13:42] Youri Ashton: i rather bash the skulls in from enemies then wave a wand
[13:43] Arawn Spitteler: Talent's not a problem, since I'm a god, and can fix all that.
[13:43] Youri Ashton: smashing your way trough with a big axe, hammer or swords just is so much more fun seeing the blood splatter all around ^_^
[13:43] Jeremy Linden: /me has been hooked on The Dresden Files book series. Adult wizard private investigator in Chicago, FTW.
[13:44] Youri Ashton: hi armonado
[13:44] Adamburp Adamczyk: onigokko
[13:44] Arawn Spitteler: That could be a movie of Poetic Justice, where someone with a cold sore decides to kill all homos, and gets HIV from the splatter
[13:44] Adamburp Adamczyk: /me is currently reading book about MI5, recwently de-classified old files
[13:45] Youri Ashton: I am waiting myself for assasins creed brotherhood and deusex 3
[13:45] Jeremy Linden: Oh yes, Deus Ex 3.
[13:45] Youri Ashton: well.. i hope of course duke nukem forever will come as well....
[13:46] Arawn Spitteler: I was just reading about Adam Welsh Dulles, one of the prime suspects, in the conspiracy investigated by The Warren Commission.
[13:46] Arawn Spitteler: Allen Welsh Dulles
[13:47] Arawn Spitteler: /me wonders why Johnson and Johnson were such unlucky running mates
[13:47] Youri Ashton: think ill be visiting the black market end of the month for a change. perhaps i can find some nice things there
[13:47] Jeremy Linden: /me is unsure whether he should pretend not to have heard that.
[13:47] Arawn Spitteler: /me hadn't realized he was still wearing the Onigokko
[13:48] Youri Ashton: lol, its legal here jeremy :p
[13:48] Youri Ashton has pinged you.
[13:48] Adamburp Adamczyk: /me sniggers
[13:48] Jeremy Linden: What, like the Black Market is an actual place you can go?
[13:48] Youri Ashton: black market is even near amsterdam
[13:48] Youri Ashton: yup
[13:48] Youri Ashton: the former owner of these halls was a auction place for flowers
[13:48] Jeremy Linden: /me has a hard time picturing shops with signs that say "BUY ILLEGAL THINGS HERE"
[13:49] Arawn Spitteler: /me wonders if the Black Market allows those whose grandmothers were dutch
[13:49] Youri Ashton: well, it is legal untill prover other wise :p
[13:49] Jeremy Linden: I see.
[13:49] Youri Ashton: the law has nothign against it here, well... as long as you have a rented store there...
[13:50] Youri Ashton: even police just walking around there
[13:50] Youri Ashton: as long as its legal according to dutch laws, then no worries
[13:50] Youri Ashton: but no drugs of any kind, no fire arms either
[13:51] Arawn Spitteler: In Holland, the sheep must not object
[13:51] Youri Ashton: lol
[13:52] Jeremy Linden: Arawn, will you ever get tired from running in circles?
[13:52] Arawn Spitteler: stop
[13:52] Adamburp Adamczyk: jeremy, stop me if this bit is too far, okay
[13:52] Adamburp Adamczyk has pinged you.
[13:52] Youri Ashton: according to dutch laws you are even allowed to download music and videos, as long as you keep them for yourself and not give copies to anyone
[13:52] Adamburp Adamczyk: you should see the reaction the onigokko gets in a sex club
[13:52] Youri Ashton: shocking for the US people, i know :p
[13:52] Adamburp Adamczyk: now THAT is funny
[13:53] Adamburp Adamczyk: i laughed that hard i was crying
[13:53] Jeremy Linden: /me imagines it would need "Yakety Sax" music and then it'd be a Benny Hill video.
[13:53] Youri Ashton: lmao
[13:53] Adamburp Adamczyk: i have the benny hill version of the onigokko too
[13:53] Jeremy Linden: NICE.
[13:53] Adamburp Adamczyk: onigokko
[13:53] Adamburp Adamczyk: smeg
[13:53] Adamburp Adamczyk: and the snowman verison
[13:54] Adamburp Adamczyk: stop
[13:54] Adamburp Adamczyk: onisnow
[13:54] Adamburp Adamczyk: kind of a hobby of mine messing with this :)
[13:54] Adamburp Adamczyk: stop
[13:54] Youri Ashton: humped by a snowman... lol
[13:54] Jeremy Linden: That'd be a good one for the annual Linden snowball fight.
[13:54] Youri Ashton: lol
[13:54] Jeremy Linden: I need to tweak my usual snowball mortar.
[13:55] Adamburp Adamczyk: i got one of those too :)
[13:55] Youri Ashton: most likely wont be here with the snowball fight
[13:55] Snowball Artillery: Say "bury" followed by an avatar's name to bombard them with snowballs!
[13:55] Remote Snowball Artillery: Touch to select from available targets!
[13:55] Youri Ashton: im usually occupied with guildwars :p
[13:55] Remote Snowball Artillery: Launching snowball at Jeremy Linden!
[13:55] Remote Snowball Artillery has pinged you.
[13:55] Second Life: Can't move object 'Snowball' to
{ 42.7544, 192.279, 35.4287 } in region Beaumont because your objects are not allowed on this parcel.
[13:55] Second Life: Can't move object 'Snowball' to
{ 42.7544, 192.279, 35.4288 } in region Beaumont because your objects are not allowed on this parcel.
[13:55] Adamburp Adamczyk: anybody want the rather hilarious oni pictures form the certain areas?
[13:56] Youri Ashton: nah, tnx though
[13:56] Adamburp Adamczyk: my sl partner got invited there on an sl hen night
[13:56] Adamburp Adamczyk: i jsut couldn't resist seeing how many i could catch
[13:57] Adamburp Adamczyk: 27
[13:57] Youri Ashton: ugh... think these pills against stumach acid doesnt really do its job ><
[13:57] Arawn Spitteler: Sauerkraut might have Vitamin K
[13:57] Jeremy Linden: Ah, I think I have one of those, Adam.
[13:58] Jeremy Linden: Mine's a little heavier-duty.
[13:58] Youri Ashton: wasnt talking about food
[13:59] Youri Ashton: 2 mins left
[13:59] Youri Ashton: i guess ill be going :)
[13:59] Youri Ashton: thanks for the OH jeremy!
[13:59] Youri Ashton has pinged you.
[13:59] Jeremy Linden: Thanks for coming, Youri!
[13:59] Arawn Spitteler: Where's Jon and Torley, today?
[13:59] Youri Ashton: welcome!
[14:00] Jeremy Linden: Torley is no longer on Doc Team, but he still works at Linden Lab. Jon doesn't seem to come to office hours anymore.
[14:00] Youri Ashton: hmm... think ill skip Bambers's OH, else it will be too late for a nice shower...
[14:00] Arawn Spitteler: I've a shower to catch, so I can see a play about Ben Franklyn's Slaves
[14:01] Youri Ashton: got at 3pm SLT a special meeting for disabilities
[14:01] Adamburp Adamczyk: i might pop to see bamber
[14:01] Youri Ashton: no arawn, your not welcome in my shower! lol
[14:01] Jeremy Linden: At any rate, I'll cut here for the transcript. Thanks for coming, everyone :-)
[14:01] Adamburp Adamczyk: thx jeremy

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