Community Tools User Group/19-May-2011

Transcript for Thursday May 19, 2011

[13:03]	Torben	hi all
[13:03]	Peewee Musytari	Aah!
[13:03]	Venus Petrov	you'll let her know yourself lol
[13:03]	Dresden Ceriano	hey PeeWee
[13:03]	Peewee Musytari	BEE!!!
[13:03]	Lexie	Hi Torben and Peewee and anyone else I cant see!!
[13:03]	bee Baroque	drat!
[13:03]	Yann	hi Youri and Rand :)
[13:03]	bee Baroque	snicker hi peewee \o
[13:03]	Marianne McCann	Rand is way too heavy to stand on my lap
[13:03]	Youri Ashton	pokes peewee :)
[13:03]	Rand	haha
[13:03]	Lexie	Hi Luc
[13:03]	Peewee Musytari	where are u hiding ur invisiibleness
[13:03]	Venus Petrov	hiya Luc
[13:03]	Luc Starsider	Hi
[13:03]	COCOON	meows
[13:04]	Luc Starsider	Am I standing on someone?
[13:04]	Dresden Ceriano	hey Luc
[13:04]	Lexie	Hi Dog
[13:04]	Peewee Musytari	ooh Luc is here too
[13:04]	Luc Starsider	Hi everybody
[13:04]	Lexie	No you are not Luc
[13:04]	Peewee Musytari	is he broken?
[13:04]	Peewee Musytari	/me Loooooo00ooooooL
[13:04]	Luc Starsider	I'm not broken
[13:04]	Peewee Musytari	\o/ "YAYYYY!!!"
[13:04]	Peewee Musytari	\|\|
[13:04]	Peewee Musytari	_/\_
[13:04]	Lexie	Peewee hahah
[13:04]	COCOON	maybe broke?
[13:04]	DogWomble Dollinger	hi everyone
[13:04]	DogWomble Dollinger	hey lexie
[13:04]	Peewee Musytari	heya lexie :)
[13:04]	Youri Ashton	no amanda today?
[13:04]	Arawn Graalrd	/me's broke, but not broken
[13:04]	Luc Starsider	I might be broken.
[13:04]	COCOON	lol
[13:04]	Lexie	No Amanda or Raymond today. They are at a conference
[13:05]	Peewee Musytari	I still can`t see dat Bee
[13:05]	Youri Ashton	aww, they will be missed!
[13:05]	Lexie	http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Tools_User_Group for the aganeda
[13:05]	Venus Petrov	Wildcat! xx
[13:05]	Lexie	agenda*
[13:05]	bee Baroque	sit peewee, please, you make me nervous.
[13:05]	bee Baroque	snicker
[13:05]	Marianne McCann	Repetitive machine noise iss repetitive
[13:05]	Adamburp Adamczyk	i bet ray just want s to avoisd another bath
[13:05]	Yann	hi Wildcat :)
[13:05]	COCOON	hey eddi!
[13:05]	Lexie	Ok, Ready to dive in?
[13:05]	COCOON	/me grabs a leash!
[13:05]	Adamburp Adamczyk	for thsie who missed it last week, raymond got dunked after the meeting
[13:05]	Peewee Musytari	yus
[13:05]	DogWomble Dollinger	/me grabs his dive tank
[13:06]	bee Baroque	/me nods
[13:06]	Lexie	haha yeah he did
[13:06]	COCOON	lol
[13:06]	Adamburp Adamczyk	°°° °° Bathtime! °° °°°
[13:06]	Lexie	afk is dangerous
[13:06]	Peewee Musytari	throws bee in 1st to test water
[13:06]	Dresden Ceriano	while i got drunk after the meeting
[13:06]	Dresden Ceriano	lol
[13:06]	Yann	yeah lexie i know :p
[13:06]	Lexie	Ok, first up! Updates:
[13:06]	Yann	loll with jeremy its allways dangerous :p
[13:06]	Peewee Musytari	question 1...who broke answers lol
[13:06]	Jeremy Linden	Things Lindens learn the hard way at office hours: 1) Always sit on something. Always.
[13:06]	Arawn Graalrd	Isn't this PeeWee's Play House?
[13:06]	Yann	/me caugh
[13:06]	Adamburp Adamczyk	Get to the Joppa!
[13:07]	Lexie	Forums/Blogs and Answers:
[13:07]	Peewee Musytari	hehe
[13:07]	Dresden Ceriano	where's cyndi when you need her?
[13:07]	Peewee Musytari	poor answers
[13:07]	DogWomble Dollinger	rofl jeremy
[13:07]	Lexie	We fixed the smiley alignment ㋡
[13:07]	Peewee Musytari	yay
[13:07]	DogWomble Dollinger	ⓎⓐⓎ
[13:07]	Venus Petrov	today?
[13:07]	Void Singer	saw that... yay
[13:07]	Dresden Ceriano	but not the iline images
[13:07]	bee Baroque	\o/
[13:07]	Dresden Ceriano	inline*
[13:07]	Void Singer	doh
[13:07]	Lexie	We removed the comments form Answers. But, before you shoot me. let me say a couple fo things...
[13:07]	COCOON	/me shoots
[13:07]	Dresden Ceriano	they're still messed up
[13:08]	COCOON	aw
[13:08]	Lexie	I know Dresden
[13:08]	Void Singer	::bang::
[13:08]	Dresden Ceriano	okay
[13:08]	Yann	/me poke Lexie :p
[13:08]	Torben	don´t get irritated by my TNT bag
[13:08]	Lexie	Removing the comments solved one issue, which was comments cannot be accepted solutions
[13:08]	Peewee Musytari	aww as if we would shoot u...it would be stuck like that if we did lol
[13:08]	Lexie	But it also caused another one from what I am reading from you on the forums
[13:09]	Peewee Musytari	hehe a few yup
[13:09]	Lexie	Would you say that if each answer had a reply button, things would be better?
[13:09]	Lexie	The ability to quote?
[13:09]	Peewee Musytari	yes definately
[13:09]	Lord of Dee	Well it was getting confusing because you'd comment and then the comment wasn't showing up.
[13:09]	Lexie	Right Lord of Dee
[13:09]	Luc Starsider	They should definitely have a way to reply
[13:10]	Lexie	I noticed if you hit the permalink a comment box shows up...
[13:10]	Lexie	So..yes we need to look at it more
[13:10]	Peewee Musytari	so the existing comments lexie, can they be turned into posts?
[13:10]	Lexie	I am going to ask about that Peewee
[13:10]	Peewee Musytari	whew
[13:10]	Lexie	I know they are still there but not easy to get to
[13:11]	Peewee Musytari	yeah we still have comment counts on our stats so they def went somewhere
[13:11]	Lexie	But overall, we need to be able to mark all the good info you guys give as accepted solutions. Thats why the removal of comments box was important
[13:11]	Yann	oh Hi lisa :)
[13:11]	Lord of Dee	At one stage they were showing if you hovered your mouse around on Firefox 4.01
[13:11]	Lexie	Please continue to add feedback in the thread about Answers comments on the forum
[13:12]	Lexie	I will keep an eye there
[13:12]	Venus Petrov	Is Answers going to be renamed Q&A?
[13:12]	Peewee Musytari	the comments on the OP were already hidden since the first change, the rest are all in same place now I guess
[13:12]	Lexie	Also, we fixed the spacing related to some oddness between videos and text, paragraph headers and text. It nows spaces nicely..not all smooshed
[13:13]	DogWomble Dollinger	'smooshes'
[13:13]	DogWomble Dollinger	nice word
[13:13]	Lexie	㋡
[13:13]	Yann	sorry i,m not very busy its just to stop the f.. masiv tp ..
[13:13]	Luc Starsider	/me looks up smooshed in the dictionary
[13:13]	Lexie	I also saw some problems with the way scripts are displaying. I am following up on that too.
[13:13]	Peewee Musytari	smooshed is lexie`s new fave word hehe....she was gonna smoosh the categories too
[13:13]	Void Singer	it's under S with skoce
[13:13]	Lexie	Good feedback thread on that in the forums
[13:13]	Void Singer	skosh?
[13:14]	DogWomble Dollinger	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=smooshed <- there you go luc
[13:14]	Void Singer	meh
[13:14]	Lexie	haha yes smooshed is a helpful word
[13:14]	Luc Starsider	Sound painful, actually
[13:14]	Jeremy Linden	Ehhh....
[13:14]	DogWomble Dollinger	particularly the last one :)
[13:14]	Jeremy Linden	I don't think urban dictionary is the best source for this one.
[13:14]	Lexie	ohhhh
[13:14]	DogWomble Dollinger	hahaha jeremy
[13:14]	Lexie	:x
[13:14]	Peewee Musytari	lol
[13:14]	Lexie	lol
[13:14]	Marianne McCann	I'm with Jeremy
[13:14]	Luc Starsider	lol
[13:14]	Lexie	ok Im going to pick a new word!
[13:14]	Void Singer	Lexie, so was that an internal change that borked code posting or a lithium one?
[13:14]	Lexie	㋡
[13:14]	Adamburp Adamczyk	google roger's profanisaurus
[13:15]	DogWomble Dollinger	hahahaha adam
[13:15]	Youri Ashton	talking about scripts, wouldnt it be good to have a database for scripts? so everyone just can check in there without having to look trough the mess with all other pages?
[13:15]	Lexie	Void I am not sure. I am asking lithium to check it for us
[13:15]	Venus Petrov	Lexie, is Answers going to be renamed Q&A?
[13:15]	Void Singer	thanks...
[13:15]	Void Singer	@ Youri, you mean like the LSL Library?
[13:15]	Lexie	Venus, Im not sure Q&A would mean much to new users? WHat do you think?
[13:15]	Marianne McCann	Youri - agreed. Never felt tht was ge best way to disply them
[13:16]	Youri Ashton	something like that, but more organized, its a mess now
[13:16]	Lord of Dee	Youri there's a special forum or Lslwiki.net has a good library too
[13:16]	Venus Petrov	I think it would, actually.
[13:16]	Youri Ashton	cant really find much at all
[13:16]	Peewee Musytari	I think it may be a universally known term
[13:16]	Luc Starsider	Q&A is pretty well known, isn't it?
[13:16]	Venus Petrov	yes, i think so
[13:16]	Lexie	I will see if we can change it.
[13:16]	Luc Starsider	Most people know it.
[13:16]	Dresden Ceriano	i endorse it
[13:16]	Venus Petrov	Great thanks
[13:16]	Void Singer	Youri, there also the wiki library.... which now has a categorized view thanks to... I forget who did that
[13:16]	Lexie	Lets get updates from Rand and Jeremy
[13:16]	Rand	Hey...
[13:17]	Peewee Musytari	maybe more recognisible to non english speakers than the word answers
[13:17]	Rand	Not too much to report this week...
[13:17]	Rand	Jeremy is finishing up land articles and will soon be starting work on mesh docs
[13:17]	Rand	I'm still doing some wiki cleanup
[13:17]	Lexie	awesome
[13:17]	Jeremy Linden	I've been updating various KB articles about Private Regions, and I'm going to start working on Mesh documentation soon!
[13:17]	Jeremy Linden	Er, what Rand said.
[13:17]	Torben	hehe, the tag team ^^
[13:17]	Rand	heh
[13:18]	Rand	I did create a new portal on the wiki
[13:18]	Youri Ashton	LL itself should start their own LSL library, its a lot easier to find for new residents
[13:18]	Luc Starsider	Does that mean mesh is about to hit the main grid soon?
[13:18]	Rand	a small one https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Resources_Portal
[13:18]	Rand	Luc - I cant speak to exact timing...
[13:18]	Youri Ashton	doesnt mean that the rest isnt welcome of course
[13:18]	Lexie	I like the new portal Rand
[13:18]	Rand	but "real soon now" ;-)
[13:18]	Peewee Musytari	why do lindens like pitting "private regions" in KB lol...don`t they know it makes u giggle..especially "naming private regions"
[13:18]	Luc Starsider	OK
[13:18]	Jeremy Linden	/me doesn't know what the schedule for Mesh looks like, but will be talking with Nyx after this user group.
[13:18]	Marianne McCann	Question on Wiki cleanup (not that one). noted the bay City page is now marked "obsolete. er, i t is still regularly in use. What makes it "obsolete?"
[13:18]	Luc Starsider	Great!
[13:18]	Adamburp Adamczyk	how far on is the reworking of the wiki? i've had soem real issues fidig stuff
[13:18]	Rand	Peewee lol - never actually thought of that!
[13:18]	Peewee Musytari	lol
[13:19]	Adamburp Adamczyk	finding*
[13:19]	Jeremy Linden	Peewee, don't forget "Can I rotate my private region?"
[13:19]	Peewee Musytari	/me Loooooo00ooooooL
[13:19]	Lexie	lol
[13:19]	Marianne McCann	https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Bay_City
[13:19]	Rand	Marianne - perhaps it just needs some updating. If you dont think it shoudl be so marked, pls just remove the template
[13:19]	Lexie	Maybe someone used the wrong template there
[13:19]	Marianne McCann	Can do
[13:19]	Rand	Adam - unfortunately, finding stuff on Mediawiki isa general issue
[13:20]	Rand	...since there is no real notion of hierarchy or navigation
[13:20]	Lord of Dee	That list of deleted pages was scary
[13:20]	Adamburp Adamczyk	okay rand cheers
[13:20]	Rand	If you have specific problems, please let me know and I will try to address
[13:20]	Peewee Musytari	kk
[13:20]	Adamburp Adamczyk	but everything i searched for gave me the complete opposite of what i looked for
[13:20]	Marianne McCann	Seriously, Ciaran
[13:20]	Void Singer	lol you should have seen the moved list
[13:20]	Adamburp Adamczyk	rand - send you that in im?
[13:20]	Rand	Adam- bummer... send me examples.... not sure I can fix tho
[13:20]	Rand	IM or Lithium PM
[13:21]	Yann	Hi OO :)
[13:21]	Rand	That's about it for us
[13:21]	Lexie	Hi oobscure
[13:21]	Peewee Musytari	is there a sound here or is it in my head?
[13:21]	Lexie	ok, onto stuff you all added
[13:21]	Lexie	That tic toc is in your head peewee
[13:21]	Marianne McCann	It's here, peewee. Ended up having to mute the computer
[13:21]	Peewee Musytari	lol
[13:21]	COCOON	this->proposal to block 'buy/sell land and commerce threads' from appearing in 'Recently Created Threads', a forum is a place to discuss topics not to be used for SPAM ^^
[13:21]	Lord of Dee	There's a sound
[13:21]	Void Singer	and just for the record, many thanks Rand
[13:21]	Peewee Musytari	its loud
[13:22]	Rand	yw Void
[13:22]	COCOON	I hear it too peewee ^^
[13:22]	Jeremy Linden	/me can't hear it...
[13:22]	Lord of Dee	Throbbing noise
[13:22]	Peewee Musytari	yes
[13:22]	Luc Starsider	/me cant hear it
[13:22]	Jeremy Linden	Cany anyone identify the source?
[13:22]	Lisa Fossett	Wildcat, I'd hoped that was brought up. I agree with you
[13:22]	Peewee Musytari	industrial
[13:22]	Ann Otoole	i had to block dogwomble cuz the pounding sound was giving me a headache. sorry dog.
[13:22]	COCOON	;o)
[13:22]	Marianne McCann	AH, it's dog? Thanks
[13:22]	Lexie	Wildcat: I hate to say I don't think so, but..I dont think so.
[13:22]	DogWomble Dollinger	no probs ... i got rid of that last night anyways
[13:22]	Void Singer	/me loves hearing from lookat postion... zoom out to silence
[13:22]	Yann	what an headhache? lol :)
[13:23]	COCOON	meaning lexie?
[13:23]	Lexie	I will double check but I think it simply pulls from all
[13:23]	Yann	sorry sarcasme
[13:23]	COCOON	It is irritating to see appearing constantly the same spam threads
[13:23]	Lexie	We might be able to come up with a different widget to use
[13:23]	Lisa Fossett	The source may actually be from Dracons. I'm getting something on his foot that seems to be it...
[13:23]	COCOON	from the same people
[13:23]	Luc Starsider	I agree with Wildcat
[13:23]	draconis.neurocam	if you want to know where sounds are coming from, on v2 at least world>show>beacons
[13:23]	Lexie	right wildcat, I agree
[13:24]	Luc Starsider	Perhas the commerce stuff could be separated out?
[13:24]	Lexie	I will add that to the list to check on in more depth
[13:24]	COCOON	I rather like to see interesting subjects in there
[13:24]	Luc Starsider	Perhaps
[13:24]	COCOON	forum is to discuss
[13:24]	Lisa Fossett	The forum becomes a free classified if you let that in.
[13:24]	Lord of Dee	Forum has many purposes
[13:24]	Lisa Fossett	And it wastes resources.
[13:24]	COCOON	yes but if you want to advertise ...... NO
[13:24]	Lisa Fossett	and clogs it.
[13:24]	Lord of Dee	Classifieds should be in there too, they used to be
[13:25]	Lexie	I will take your feedback to the team and see what they come up with on it
[13:25]	COCOON	cool thx lexie ^^
[13:25]	Yann	hmm, question like that on the new forum and blog, do you know .. when i click of the user name its could be redirected to the web profile link?
[13:25]	Peewee Musytari	what happened to the request to bring back the New Products forum? are we getting that?
[13:25]	Lisa Fossett	Sorryt, the sound was not on Draconis, it's on Dog's left foot
[13:26]	Peewee Musytari	yeah the sound is dogwomble hehe
[13:26]	DogWomble Dollinger	strange ... the scripting and sounds for that have been removed
[13:26]	Void Singer	/me likes Eddi's idea.... it's been a popular request since before jive
[13:26]	Jeremy Linden	If I recall correctly, looping sounds may not stop if the script is removed.
[13:26]	Lexie	New Products forum.. I do not have an answer on that. Lets have that on next weeks agenda
[13:26]	Lisa Fossett	need to scrub the prim
[13:26]	draconis.neurocam	llstopsound has to be called i believe
[13:27]	Peewee Musytari	kk ty lexie
[13:27]	Adamburp Adamczyk	well, its not my onigokko]
[13:27]	Adamburp Adamczyk	onigokko
[13:27]	Void Singer	/me nods at Jeremy: you have to use a script to remove embedded sounds from objects
[13:27]	Peewee Musytari	ahh silence
[13:27]	Peewee Musytari	yay
[13:27]	Yann	Void, its an # jira for this request or it not started yet?
[13:27]	Peewee Musytari	ty
[13:27]	Lord of Dee	It has stopped
[13:27]	Dresden Ceriano	i'm so glad i'm noy wearing mine
[13:27]	COCOON	^^
[13:27]	Dresden Ceriano	not*
[13:27]	Lexie	Yann: it will redirect you to the community profile. Thats as expected
[13:27]	Lexie	Different profiles
[13:28]	Void Singer	Eddi, I dunno... I just remember it being requested multiple times since the old forums
[13:28]	Dresden Ceriano	maybe we could have a link on the community profile to your SL profile
[13:28]	Marianne McCann	Indeed, Dresden
[13:28]	Yann	okey lexie, cause now you have 3 or 4 different profile, they use some different server for notning :)
[13:28]	Lexie	Interesting idea Dresden!
[13:28]	Luc Starsider	That would be great, Dres
[13:28]	Lisa Fossett	I daresay you could add it, if you can add a link
[13:28]	Marianne McCann	So many profiles to manage...
[13:28]	Peewee Musytari	ooh the old xtreet forum had that
[13:28]	Lisa Fossett	should be opt in as always :)
[13:28]	Lexie	opt in..good point
[13:29]	Dresden Ceriano	true
[13:29]	Lexie	Next up: When not logged in on secondlife.com, the link for Help->Resources For New Users should probably point to a more useful page than http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Featured-News/bg-p/blog_feature_news
[13:29]	Lexie	Rand or Jeremy, do you know anything on this at all?
[13:29]	Yann	jira profile, web profile, wiki profile .. blog profile .. geez
[13:29]	Luc Starsider	Yupp. You should not have to be logged in to get to the info you need
[13:29]	Lexie	I know its by design
[13:29]	Rand	Lexie - that would just be a WEB jira
[13:29]	Luc Starsider	And the featured news is not very interesting to new users, I think
[13:29]	Peewee Musytari	blondin seemed to thin he fixed that but mine is still broke
[13:29]	Rand	If its by design, I dont think its a good choice
[13:30]	Adamburp Adamczyk	lexie, any word on last week's visit?
[13:30]	Dresden Ceriano	something to look into
[13:30]	Luc Starsider	Yes, it's still broke
[13:30]	Rand	Suggest we open a Jira and see if we can get it changed/fixed
[13:30]	Adamburp Adamczyk	whilst on about stuff for noobs?
[13:30]	Lexie	I take that back..I could be wrong. Has anyone checked for a jira on it yet?
[13:30]	Rand	I have not
[13:30]	Lexie	Can you do one if it doesnt exist?
[13:30]	Yann	okey .. hmm let me see what i can do on jira :)
[13:31]	Yann	i can take a linden profile to do my picture add?
[13:31]	Youri Ashton	that page at least needs to be a lot simpler and easier to use
[13:31]	Lexie	Adam, no "news" yet
[13:31]	Rand	yes, i could open a jira
[13:31]	Lexie	great
[13:31]	Lexie	Where is the preferred place for putting bug reports and/or feature requests for the community? User group, community forum, jira or what?
[13:31]	Rand	Yann, if y ou could do it, great!
[13:31]	Youri Ashton	noobs dont understand a lot of SL in the beginning, so yeah, rand, opena JIRA, this really needs a fix i'd say
[13:32]	Adamburp Adamczyk	well i meant is did you pass it on
[13:32]	Rand	i agree it should be fixed
[13:32]	Lexie	I did Adam
[13:32]	Adamburp Adamczyk	i understand doesn't ha[[en overnight
[13:32]	Adamburp Adamczyk	thanks lexie - and thanks for takng the tiem to look
[13:32]	Lexie	bug reports and feature request go in jira.
[13:32]	Luc Starsider	The reason for the question is that I have kind of used the community for bug reports, and they do nto really fit there. Jira is the better place.
[13:32]	Luc Starsider	But which is best?
[13:33]	Lexie	If you are giving feedback strictly on the community platform, there is a thread for that available
[13:33]	Luc Starsider	OK
[13:33]	Dresden Ceriano	i think you should go to the community first, so you can get a handle on if it's really an issue or if domething's going on just for you
[13:33]	Luc Starsider	I started to wonder, so I've added everything to the community.
[13:33]	Void Singer	@Rand, that jira is about the login conditional page link? even targetting the logged on pages (which just sends you through an openid check) might be prefereable
[13:33]	Lexie	If you are unsure, you can always PM me and I can tell you the place for it Luc
[13:33]	Luc Starsider	OK.
[13:34]	Luc Starsider	Will do
[13:34]	Yann	what the component i can take for that?
[13:34]	Void Singer	WEB I think
[13:34]	Void Singer	SVC is that's been closed
[13:35]	Lexie	Hi Identity
[13:35]	Lexie	I think WEB too
[13:35]	Lexie	ok next on the list:
[13:35]	Lexie	Forum consolidation ideas from residents
[13:35]	Yann	yeah , but the components , in web
[13:35]	Peewee Musytari	it would be good if there was somewhere we could report patterns of occurring problems that look like they might be the start of a bug, so that people don`t get bounced back n forth from JIRA to support when neither recognise its a problem affecting more than one person.....like divorces where one name stays on a profile
[13:35]	Venus Petrov	Yes, Lexie, I put the link to the thread in the agenda
[13:35]	Rand	Yes, "logged in" sl.com is different than "not logged in" .... even different teams handle the issues
[13:35]	Id Koba	Hi ㋡
[13:35]	COCOON	Hiya Id
[13:36]	Youri Ashton	hey oob
[13:36]	Lexie	http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Forums-Blogs-Answers-and/Forum-Consolidation/m-p/876807#M3978 is the link ffor forum consolidation
[13:36]	Void Singer	oh... uhm... probably leave them blank.... they're underused for the most part, unless something sticks out
[13:36]	COCOON	I liked Storm his proposal ^^
[13:36]	COCOON	to consolidate
[13:36]	Venus Petrov	Storm started the thread..there have been several good ideas for consolidating subforums
[13:37]	Lexie	I agree we should combine some of them
[13:37]	Venus Petrov	there is such a proliferation that it is sometimes hard to know where to post things and where to find things
[13:37]	Dresden Ceriano	i favorite is mine... hehe
[13:37]	Yann	just take blog, forum wiki, and my secondlife.com :)
[13:37]	Youri Ashton	hey identity :)
[13:37]	Dresden Ceriano	my*
[13:37]	Void Singer	lol a dres
[13:37]	Lisa Fossett	Well said, Venus
[13:37]	Venus Petrov	/me smiles at Dres
[13:37]	Lexie	I dont think we can restructure the whole thing
[13:37]	Venus Petrov	some might actually like an uber list but may be unwieldy for others
[13:38]	Venus Petrov	so reducing the number of subforums would be great
[13:38]	COCOON	you could SMOOSH it Lexie ^^
[13:38]	Youri Ashton	time for me to go again :)
[13:38]	Venus Petrov	hehe Wildcat
[13:38]	Lexie	lol wildcat
[13:38]	COCOON	lol
[13:38]	Youri Ashton	tnx for having me lindens :)
[13:38]	Void Singer	never gonna let her forget huh?
[13:38]	Lexie	Bye Youri!
[13:38]	Youri Ashton	till next week!
[13:38]	Void Singer	=)
[13:38]	bee Baroque	bye youri \o :)
[13:38]	Adamburp Adamczyk	bye youri, tc fella
[13:38]	Youri Ashton	bye bye lexie :)
[13:38]	COCOON	tc youri
[13:38]	Peewee Musytari	bye youri :)
[13:38]	Jeremy Linden	Smoosh: v. "To squash or mash"
[13:38]	Torben	I gotta run too
[13:38]	Venus Petrov	Lexie, since you've read the thread, can we leave it to you and your team to make the changes?
[13:39]	Torben	take care all
[13:39]	Dresden Ceriano	what happens is you're spreading the conversation too much, there's no place to go to hang out really
[13:39]	Venus Petrov	righto
[13:39]	Lexie	What criteria would a board meet to require us to merge it into another forum
[13:39]	Dresden Ceriano	doesn't help build a feeling of community
[13:39]	Lexie	ok Dresden, good point
[13:39]	DogWomble Dollinger	lexie similarly themed content?
[13:39]	Venus Petrov	Sorry Lexie, I don't understand the question.
[13:40]	Peewee Musytari	someone posted another thread about renaming the scripting forum and making it more obvious too
[13:40]	Dresden Ceriano	my avatar and fashion
[13:40]	Dresden Ceriano	for one
[13:40]	Void Singer	similar theme and low pocst frequency?
[13:40]	Venus Petrov	right
[13:40]	Lord of Dee	Well the sports guys seem to be happy talking sports and the rolpeplayers are happy talking roleplay, these won't interest that many folk so why not leave them be
[13:40]	COCOON	Lexie while you restructure it ......... can you add DATING as a category? ->this to help the lonely hearts in second life!!!
[13:40]	Lexie	Let me restate it. If a board only has x number of threads after 30 days..it should merge with another board?
[13:40]	Venus Petrov	low post frequency is ripe for consolidation
[13:40]	Venus Petrov	yes to that Lexie
[13:40]	Dresden Ceriano	maybe so
[13:41]	Peewee Musytari	yeah sport has been quiet...must be off season
[13:41]	Lexie	I don't think we will do a dating area... lol
[13:41]	Marianne McCann	Perhaps. THough I suspect some categories may not shoehorn well
[13:41]	Lexie	right Marianne
[13:41]	Venus Petrov	ahahahahah
[13:41]	COCOON	well more and more people seem to post in that direction ^^
[13:41]	Marianne McCann	Lexie "Is my avvie hot or not"
[13:41]	Dresden Ceriano	i was hoping for more... but i'll take what i can get... lol
[13:41]	Venus Petrov	Storm will be disappointed!
[13:41]	Marianne McCann	/me snickers
[13:41]	COCOON	yes he will be depressed ^^
[13:41]	Yann	https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-3872 , done here, but i need to complete after the meeting
[13:41]	Void Singer	/me finds it hard to give a number
[13:41]	Venus Petrov	He just wants to know if he can get that elusive date with you lol
[13:41]	Lexie	thanks Yann!
[13:41]	Lexie	haha Venus
[13:41]	COCOON	lol venus
[13:41]	Yann	welcome Lexie :)
[13:42]	Peewee Musytari	land is a bit all over the place with a bit in each section
[13:42]	Yann	sorry my english typos if i have some fault :)
[13:42]	Lexie	I think Avatar and fashion could merge
[13:42]	Dresden Ceriano	true peewee
[13:42]	Venus Petrov	I think there was so much enthusiasm early on at being able to HAVE subforums...we kind of went overboard
[13:42]	Marianne McCann	Agreed
[13:42]	Luc Starsider	With fashion, you could be talking about creating fashion
[13:42]	Lexie	I think sports and events could merge?
[13:42]	Venus Petrov	yes
[13:42]	COCOON	it is better to start wild and to end calm ^^
[13:42]	Lord of Dee	No
[13:42]	Marianne McCann	/me nods
[13:42]	COCOON	lol
[13:42]	Luc Starsider	Shoud that still go in Avatar, or in content creation
[13:42]	Peewee Musytari	yep
[13:42]	Luc Starsider	?
[13:42]	Venus Petrov	you would know, Wildcat lol
[13:43]	COCOON	haha
[13:43]	Dresden Ceriano	no one uses it for creation i don't believe
[13:43]	Lexie	hmm
[13:43]	Luc Starsider	Ah, Avatar it is, then
[13:43]	Qie	In fact... the same is true of Blog categories. It's not as if there's such a flood of blog posts that it really matters that they're categorized at all.
[13:43]	Peewee Musytari	fashion and avatar seem more of a match than fashion and content creation
[13:43]	Lexie	I think so too Peewee
[13:43]	Luc Starsider	True
[13:43]	COCOON	yep
[13:44]	Luc Starsider	Just asking
[13:44]	Venus Petrov	Sports/Music & Entertainment
[13:44]	Dresden Ceriano	events/music and entertainment/sports
[13:44]	Dresden Ceriano	lol
[13:44]	Venus Petrov	si Dres lol
[13:44]	Peewee Musytari	yes dres I agree
[13:44]	Lexie	would that be too much Dresden?
[13:44]	Dresden Ceriano	i don't believe
[13:44]	Dresden Ceriano	look at the post counts
[13:44]	Venus Petrov	/me agrees w/ Dres
[13:44]	Peewee Musytari	is all related to stuff to do
[13:44]	Lexie	I can look at the total numbers for those and see what it would end up being all together
[13:45]	Dresden Ceriano	it calle all go under entertainment
[13:45]	COCOON	ok we wait Lexie (while you calculate ^^)
[13:45]	Dresden Ceriano	could*
[13:45]	Lexie	lol
[13:45]	Venus Petrov	look at it this way, too, it could save Mod resource from moving things around
[13:45]	Lexie	ha! Thats actually true Venus
[13:45]	Venus Petrov	fewer places to move to
[13:45]	COCOON	cost savings!!!!
[13:45]	Venus Petrov	YES
[13:45]	Lexie	I see many "Moved" notices
[13:45]	Venus Petrov	bingo
[13:45]	Lord of Dee	You'll kill some categories if you merge them sports is very niche, it should have visibility
[13:45]	Venus Petrov	exactly
[13:46]	Peewee Musytari	i see the new name for feedback didn`t stop the multi posts in there...people just like posting there lol
[13:46]	Lexie	SPorts is very quiet though Lord of Dee
[13:46]	Venus Petrov	they see Lindens responding and wanna be heard
[13:46]	Void Singer	Eddi, I hope you don't mind, I updated your feature request
[13:46]	Dresden Ceriano	i'd like to see make friends and lifestyles combind but i'm willing to bet that won't fly
[13:46]	Venus Petrov	even QUESTIONS get posted there..rather than under ANSWERS lol
[13:46]	COCOON	sports is named wrong ....... should have been (sailing/flying/racing)
[13:46]	Luc Starsider	They seem to do more double posting now than before
[13:47]	COCOON	sailing is an extreme large community
[13:47]	Lord of Dee	Yeah that's the point, people don't know they're here, I didn't know American Football went on here until that forum was created
[13:47]	Venus Petrov	i agree w/ Friends and Lifestyles (for the rich and famous)
[13:47]	Lexie	Yes, and questions can now be moved to Answers where they belong. You will all see some of that activity happening
[13:47]	Lexie	ok, lets think about Sports, maybe leave it be and build up the description
[13:47]	Dresden Ceriano	=Pvenus
[13:47]	Dresden Ceriano	lol
[13:48]	Venus Petrov	If the subforum descriptor says 'sports' people will know to post there or look
[13:48]	Void Singer	I think part of the problem is skimming.... people see "Answers" and "knowledge base" and "feedback" and don't bother to parse the specific nature
[13:48]	Venus Petrov	lol
[13:48]	Lord of Dee	Or have a sub heading on the forums so people know what should go there and good point about sailing
[13:48]	Peewee Musytari	making friends is a good one on its own...we get to send people there when they ask how do I meet people?
[13:48]	Venus Petrov	Making Friends and Relationships...let them plunge in!
[13:48]	Venus Petrov	/me laughs
[13:48]	COCOON	and dating ^^
[13:48]	Peewee Musytari	eeps
[13:48]	Venus Petrov	ahahahaha
[13:48]	Lexie	Making friends is a fairly active board
[13:49]	Peewee Musytari	I agree lexie
[13:49]	Venus Petrov	Dates with Lexi should be a separate subforum
[13:49]	Lexie	rofll
[13:49]	DogWomble Dollinger	and the fact that asking to do the hoohaa is not appropriate on a pg sim? :P
[13:49]	Venus Petrov	lol
[13:49]	Luc Starsider	lol
[13:49]	Peewee Musytari	they have cute little noob chats there
[13:49]	Dresden Ceriano	i was hoping to consolidate the community a littkle
[13:49]	Peewee Musytari	its funny
[13:49]	COCOON	the STORM forum
[13:49]	Void Singer	lol Wild.... yeah might as well teach em to swim by tossing them in with the sharks =X
[13:49]	Venus Petrov	hehe
[13:49]	COCOON	rofl void
[13:49]	Venus Petrov	Wildcat, he reads these notes ahahahaha
[13:49]	COCOON	I am candor ^^
[13:50]	Venus Petrov	of course!
[13:50]	Lexie	ok, so lets put these ideas in that forum thread:Forum consolidation ideas from residents
[13:50]	COCOON	;o)
[13:50]	Lexie	http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Forums-Blogs-Answers-and/Forum-Consolidation/m-p/876807#M3978
[13:50]	Dresden Ceriano	i have... i guess i could try harder
[13:50]	Lexie	I will ask Raymond and Amanda to take a look there too
[13:50]	Venus Petrov	How much longer do you wish to seek feedback before making some decisions, Lexie?
[13:50]	Lord of Dee	How about advertising the forums too, you've tweaked and changed and people won't know what's available, give them a boost
[13:51]	Peewee Musytari	someone wanted something brought up at the meeting and I forgot what it was lol
[13:51]	COCOON	lol peewee
[13:51]	Lexie	Id like to make some changes middle of next week if possible
[13:51]	Peewee Musytari	who remembers the post?
[13:51]	Venus Petrov	ok cool
[13:51]	Peewee Musytari	hehe
[13:51]	Void Singer	doncha hate that.... people do that to me all the time.... hey ask about xyz...
[13:51]	Lexie	Lord of Dee, yes..we need to promote the forums and we are working on ideas!
[13:51]	Marianne McCann	Agreed, ciaran. Give 'em a MotD spot or something
[13:51]	Dresden Ceriano	god then we'll come back and tell you guys what other changes you have to make
[13:51]	Lexie	good thought
[13:51]	Lord of Dee	Good call Mari
[13:51]	Dresden Ceriano	lol
[13:51]	Dresden Ceriano	good*
[13:52]	Lord of Dee	Where's Amanda?
[13:52]	Lexie	conference
[13:52]	Lord of Dee	ah good to know she hasn't left
[13:52]	Lexie	I wanted to point out that we are doing polls every week on the forums.
[13:53]	Lexie	Lets bring the fun back ㋡
[13:53]	Venus Petrov	yes i saw the first one
[13:53]	Adamburp Adamczyk	i asgree
[13:53]	Lisa Fossett	Such as, Lexie?
[13:53]	Lexie	New one is up today and doesnt require you to watch 12 videos lol
[13:53]	Luc Starsider	You should advertise the polls on the login screen in the viewer
[13:53]	Adamburp Adamczyk	jeremy's challenge to be a streaker in ll offices?
[13:53]	Peewee Musytari	oooh I found it...it was about ways to make the advanced mode default
[13:53]	Adamburp Adamczyk	that'sd be a good poll
[13:54]	Jeremy Linden	/me doesn't think the office would appreciate that.
[13:54]	Lexie	Lisa, I think its great ..all the serious feedback and help and discussions on the forums. But, laughing is good too. I just want more of that!!
[13:54]	Lord of Dee	Agreed Lexie
[13:54]	Lisa Fossett	I agree...just hadn't seen it so was curious what it was :)
[13:54]	Venus Petrov	Laughter is good for the soul
[13:54]	Marianne McCann	Especially downstaies, jeremy
[13:55]	Peewee Musytari	Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a debug setting for AdvancedMode yet, or if there is one it hasn't been published.
[13:55]	Yann	Thank Void :)
[13:55]	Lexie	The recent poll is a bit funny but I would love your suggestions for more!
[13:55]	Qie	Okay, I'm a n00b: Where is this poll?
[13:55]	Lexie	That might make a better jira Peewee
[13:56]	Peewee Musytari	kk I`ll tell rolig
[13:56]	Lexie	http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Forums/ct-p/Forums Qie
[13:56]	Lexie	right side at the top
[13:56]	Qie	oh! thanks. sorry, I was scanning for a thread.
[13:56]	Lexie	We are almost out of time..and we did not get to the hub discussion. So I will leave that on there for the next meeting!
[13:56]	Lisa Fossett	Funny, Lexie :)
[13:57]	Lexie	: ))
[13:57]	DogWomble Dollinger	i could add one sort of relevant option to that poll
[13:57]	DogWomble Dollinger	"wondered why you can't cam aroudn a youtube video"
[13:57]	Lexie	hahah
[13:57]	Lexie	nice Dog
[13:57]	Dresden Ceriano	oh lord I could tell a few good stories about the first thing alone
[13:57]	Adamburp Adamczyk	"ever yelled onigokko in an rl queue"
[13:57]	Peewee Musytari	can we post threads as polls instead of discussions?
[13:57]	Lisa Fossett	Done that, Dog
[13:57]	DogWomble Dollinger	haha lisa, as have i :)
[13:57]	Lexie	You can, sure
[13:57]	Lord of Dee	ah that's like when people post screenshots with scroll bars and I try and use the scroll bar on the screenshot
[13:57]	Lexie	hha I do that too Dog
[13:58]	Lexie	I mean Lord
[13:58]	Dresden Ceriano	can anyone start a poll?
[13:58]	Marianne McCann	/me has been known to try to cam around screen shots
[13:58]	Lexie	no, only community managers
[13:58]	Dresden Ceriano	oh okay
[13:58]	Luc Starsider	Me too, marianne.
[13:58]	Lexie	But you can do a poll thread style
[13:58]	Void Singer	@PeeWee: there is a way to do it... I managed it on accident, so I'll have to experiment.... all basic mode does is use one settings file instead of another
[13:58]	Dresden Ceriano	yeah
[13:59]	Peewee Musytari	can poll threads be added with voting
[13:59]	Lexie	I may also start some fun threads soon so..dont think Ive gone crazy or anything. Just bringing more fun back ㋡
[13:59]	Void Singer	/me welcomes fun
[13:59]	Peewee Musytari	we like fun hehe
[13:59]	Lexie	Anything esle before we wrap up?
[13:59]	COCOON	yep ^^
[13:59]	Venus Petrov	People also think controversial topics are fun
[13:59]	Void Singer	.... hi Fun how ya doing?
[13:59]	Dresden Ceriano	fun is fun
[14:00]	Venus Petrov	lol
[14:00]	Void Singer	.... see
[14:00]	DogWomble Dollinger	venus ... maybe a religion and politics forum then? :)
[14:00]	Lexie	noooo
[14:00]	Marianne McCann	Have fun all! See ya next time!
[14:00]	Lexie	lol
[14:00]	Peewee Musytari	any idea when answers will be fixed...days or weeks?
[14:00]	Venus Petrov	yes!
[14:00]	Lord of Dee	Definitely no
[14:00]	Lisa Fossett	lol
[14:00]	Venus Petrov	lol
[14:00]	Dresden Ceriano	oh holy hell
[14:00]	Venus Petrov	yes!
[14:00]	Void Singer	bye mari!
[14:00]	Lexie	Thansk for coming! See you all next week!
[14:00]	Marianne McCann	Bye Bye!!
[14:00]	Lord of Dee	Cheers guys
[14:00]	DogWomble Dollinger	thanks lexie :)
[14:00]	Venus Petrov	thanks Lexie et al
[14:00]	Lisa Fossett	bye, MM
[14:00]	Qie	thanks Lexie
[14:00]	Luc Starsider	Bye everybody
[14:00]	COCOON	bye everyone ;o)
[14:00]	Lexie	Bye for now ㋡
[14:00]	Peewee Musytari	thanks lexie ...good meeting
[14:01]	Jeremy Linden	Rand, you got the transcript?
[14:01]	Rand	Byall all
[14:01]	Rand	yep i got it jeremy
[14:01]	Venus Petrov	takes care not to step on beeeee
[14:01]	Dresden Ceriano	thanks =)~
[14:01]	Peewee Musytari	ty rand & jeremy too :)

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